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Posted: **Wed Sep 09, 2020 11:01 am**

If ever there was a deserving centre that never got a look in it is Robert Ebersohn.

Posted: **Wed Sep 09, 2020 11:27 am**

OomStruisbaai wrote: Wed Sep 09, 2020 10:58 am Thought Saffer brought the worst out of Sards. Now he is even far below what he was

What happened to Saffer?

Posted: **Wed Sep 09, 2020 11:29 am**

average joe wrote: Wed Sep 09, 2020 11:01 am If ever there was a deserving centre that never got a look in it is Robert Ebersohn.

A solid, above average player

Posted: **Wed Sep 09, 2020 12:36 pm**

handyman wrote: Wed Sep 09, 2020 11:27 am
OomStruisbaai wrote: Wed Sep 09, 2020 10:58 am Thought Saffer brought the worst out of Sards. Now he is even far below what he was
What happened to Saffer?

He seems to only post when South African rugby is active. But he is on Facebook (I’m not) so those who know him could ask.

Posted: **Wed Sep 09, 2020 1:06 pm**

Fangle wrote: Wed Sep 09, 2020 12:36 pm
handyman wrote: Wed Sep 09, 2020 11:27 am
OomStruisbaai wrote: Wed Sep 09, 2020 10:58 am Thought Saffer brought the worst out of Sards. Now he is even far below what he was
What happened to Saffer?
He seems to only post when South African rugby is active. But he is on Facebook (I’m not) so those who know him could ask.

Thanks. Will be a shame if we lose him, great poster.

Posted: **Wed Sep 09, 2020 1:17 pm**

Fangle wrote: Wed Sep 09, 2020 12:36 pm
handyman wrote: Wed Sep 09, 2020 11:27 am
OomStruisbaai wrote: Wed Sep 09, 2020 10:58 am Thought Saffer brought the worst out of Sards. Now he is even far below what he was
What happened to Saffer?
He seems to only post when South African rugby is active. But he is on Facebook (I’m not) so those who know him could ask.

Probably too busy on the campaign trail.

Posted: **Wed Sep 09, 2020 9:23 pm**

handyman wrote: Wed Sep 09, 2020 1:06 pm
Fangle wrote: Wed Sep 09, 2020 12:36 pm
handyman wrote: Wed Sep 09, 2020 11:27 am

What happened to Saffer?
He seems to only post when South African rugby is active. But he is on Facebook (I’m not) so those who know him could ask.
Thanks. Will be a shame if we lose him, great poster.

I think it is a combination of growing tired of the incessant rinse-repeat arguments on here with sards about rugby and everybody else about Trump, and the fact that he is a principal at a school and managing all his teachers while they are adapting to Covid has been a massive challenge keeping him very busy.

Posted: **Thu Sep 10, 2020 6:45 am**

Blake wrote: Wed Sep 09, 2020 9:23 pm
handyman wrote: Wed Sep 09, 2020 1:06 pm
Fangle wrote: Wed Sep 09, 2020 12:36 pm

He seems to only post when South African rugby is active. But he is on Facebook (I’m not) so those who know him could ask.
Thanks. Will be a shame if we lose him, great poster.
I think it is a combination of growing tired of the incessant rinse-repeat arguments on here with sards about rugby and everybody else about Trump, and the fact that he is a principal at a school and managing all his teachers while they are adapting to Covid has been a massive challenge keeping him very busy.

Ja look, he was mainly on here to chat rugby, and sards tried to, but as we know sards does not rugby. Also, saffer's job is a noble one, and I for one respect it if he wants to devote more time to it.

Posted: **Thu Sep 10, 2020 6:47 am**

Rob and Dan du Preez had great games last night against Saracens.

Also Juan de Jongh is playing very good rugby at the moment for Wasps.

Posted: **Thu Sep 10, 2020 7:50 am**

handyman wrote: Thu Sep 10, 2020 6:45 am
Blake wrote: Wed Sep 09, 2020 9:23 pm
handyman wrote: Wed Sep 09, 2020 1:06 pm

Thanks. Will be a shame if we lose him, great poster.
I think it is a combination of growing tired of the incessant rinse-repeat arguments on here with sards about rugby and everybody else about Trump, and the fact that he is a principal at a school and managing all his teachers while they are adapting to Covid has been a massive challenge keeping him very busy.
Ja look, he was mainly on here to chat rugby, and sards tried to, but as we know sards does not rugby. Also, saffer's job is a noble one, and I for one respect it if he wants to devote more time to it.

Yank is a typical soft cock WP Supporter.

<Sards>

Posted: **Thu Sep 10, 2020 7:52 am**

assfly wrote: Thu Sep 10, 2020 6:47 am

Also Juan de Jongh is playing very good rugby at the moment for Wasps.

Now you are just looking for an argument!

Posted: **Thu Sep 10, 2020 8:28 am**

Chilli wrote: Thu Sep 10, 2020 7:50 am
handyman wrote: Thu Sep 10, 2020 6:45 am
Blake wrote: Wed Sep 09, 2020 9:23 pm

I think it is a combination of growing tired of the incessant rinse-repeat arguments on here with sards about rugby and everybody else about Trump, and the fact that he is a principal at a school and managing all his teachers while they are adapting to Covid has been a massive challenge keeping him very busy.
Ja look, he was mainly on here to chat rugby, and sards tried to, but as we know sards does not rugby. Also, saffer's job is a noble one, and I for one respect it if he wants to devote more time to it.
Yank is a typical soft cock WP Supporter.

<Sards>

Loved how he pulled sards' chain. Like a puppet on a string.

Posted: **Thu Sep 10, 2020 9:15 am**

Chilli wrote: Thu Sep 10, 2020 7:52 am Now you are just looking for an argument!

I'm serious. Amazing to see so many Saffa players who left under the radar and end up having fantastic careers overseas. I was even watching Anton Bresler and he's a different player.

Posted: **Thu Sep 10, 2020 9:24 am**

assfly wrote: Thu Sep 10, 2020 9:15 am
Chilli wrote: Thu Sep 10, 2020 7:52 am Now you are just looking for an argument!
I'm serious. Amazing to see so many Saffa players who left under the radar and end up having fantastic careers overseas. I was even watching Anton Bresler and he's a different player.

Either the Northern Hemisphere style of rugby suites our players better. Or they are getting better coaching and management in the NH as oposedto what they got here in SA.

Posted: **Thu Sep 10, 2020 9:31 am**

Chilli wrote: Thu Sep 10, 2020 9:24 am Either the Northern Hemisphere style of rugby suites our players better. Or they are getting better coaching and management in the NH as oposedto what they got here in SA.

Coaching is the big difference for me. There are way to many 'mediocre' players doing well there.

Watching the premiership, I wouldn't say there is a distinct style of play as each team have their own style. Perhaps that is what attracts our players, each club offers something different by way of coaching, culture and style.

Posted: **Thu Sep 10, 2020 9:36 am**

assfly wrote: Thu Sep 10, 2020 9:15 am
Chilli wrote: Thu Sep 10, 2020 7:52 am Now you are just looking for an argument!
I'm serious. Amazing to see so many Saffa players who left under the radar and end up having fantastic careers overseas. I was even watching Anton Bresler and he's a different player.

Is this the same Juan de Jongh who can't get in the team and has managed one appearance in Wasps' last 8 matches?

Posted: **Thu Sep 10, 2020 9:37 am**

JM2K6 wrote: Thu Sep 10, 2020 9:36 am
Is this the same Juan de Jongh who can't get in the team and has managed one appearance in Wasps' last 8 matches?

I saw him play a few days ago. Looked in good form to me.

Posted: **Thu Sep 10, 2020 9:41 am**

assfly wrote: Thu Sep 10, 2020 9:37 am
JM2K6 wrote: Thu Sep 10, 2020 9:36 am
Is this the same Juan de Jongh who can't get in the team and has managed one appearance in Wasps' last 8 matches?
I saw him play a few days ago. Looked in good form to me.

He had a run-out for the reserves and barely did a thing in comparison to virtually all his outside back teammates. And it's been his only appearance for a very long time. Because he's 2nd XV fodder now. [edit: he's made 3 starts for them in all competitions in 2020]

What I'm saying is: you're massively over-egging the concept of form and "having fantastic careers overseas" if this is your standard!

You'll be pleased to know Andre Esterhuizen made his first appearance off the bench for Quins. Looked a bit slow in attack but threw a couple of decent passes and put in two bone crunching hits.

Posted: **Thu Sep 10, 2020 9:53 am**

That sounds like the beach muscles we know and love

Posted: **Thu Sep 10, 2020 10:13 am**

JM2K6 wrote: Thu Sep 10, 2020 9:41 am He had a run-out for the reserves and barely did a thing in comparison to virtually all his outside back teammates. And it's been his only appearance for a very long time. Because he's 2nd XV fodder now. [edit: he's made 3 starts for them in all competitions in 2020]

What I'm saying is: you're massively over-egging the concept of form and "having fantastic careers overseas" if this is your standard!

You'll be pleased to know Andre Esterhuizen made his first appearance off the bench for Quins. Looked a bit slow in attack but threw a couple of decent passes and put in two bone crunching hits.

Fair enough, I saw it differently.

I never rated him that highly, and if stayed in SA he would probably have retired by now. Instead, he's playing for a decent team and getting paid very well to do it (especially when converted into ZAR). For me that a fantastic career move.

Very pleased for AE. I tried to stay up to watch it. I think he'll do well with Quins, especially with Lasike outside of him. He's a great player and deserved more Bok caps than he got.

Posted: **Thu Sep 10, 2020 10:14 am**

JM2K6 wrote: Thu Sep 10, 2020 9:36 am
assfly wrote: Thu Sep 10, 2020 9:15 am
Chilli wrote: Thu Sep 10, 2020 7:52 am Now you are just looking for an argument!
I'm serious. Amazing to see so many Saffa players who left under the radar and end up having fantastic careers overseas. I was even watching Anton Bresler and he's a different player.
Is this the same Juan de Jongh who can't get in the team and has managed one appearance in Wasps' last 8 matches?

To be fair, he is playing behind a few decent enough players.

Posted: **Thu Sep 10, 2020 10:17 am**

JM2K6 wrote: Thu Sep 10, 2020 9:41 am
assfly wrote: Thu Sep 10, 2020 9:37 am
JM2K6 wrote: Thu Sep 10, 2020 9:36 am
Is this the same Juan de Jongh who can't get in the team and has managed one appearance in Wasps' last 8 matches?
I saw him play a few days ago. Looked in good form to me.

He had a run-out for the reserves and barely did a thing in comparison to virtually all his outside back teammates. And it's been his only appearance for a very long time. Because he's 2nd XV fodder now. [edit: he's made 3 starts for them in all competitions in 2020]

What I'm saying is: you're massively over-egging the concept of form and "having fantastic careers overseas" if this is your standard!

You'll be pleased to know Andre Esterhuizen made his first appearance off the bench for Quins. Looked a bit slow in attack but threw a couple of decent passes and put in two bone crunching hits.

How many balls did he drop?

Posted: **Thu Sep 10, 2020 10:40 am**

assfly wrote: Thu Sep 10, 2020 9:31 am
Watching the premiership, I wouldn't say there is a distinct style of play as each team have their own style. Perhaps that is what attracts our players, each club offers something different by way of coaching, culture and style.

Yeah, it's certainly not the 19 to 1 exchange rate.

Posted: **Thu Sep 10, 2020 10:41 am**

Chilli wrote: Thu Sep 10, 2020 10:14 am
JM2K6 wrote: Thu Sep 10, 2020 9:36 am
assfly wrote: Thu Sep 10, 2020 9:15 am

I'm serious. Amazing to see so many Saffa players who left under the radar and end up having fantastic careers overseas. I was even watching Anton Bresler and he's a different player.
Is this the same Juan de Jongh who can't get in the team and has managed one appearance in Wasps' last 8 matches?
To be fair, he is playing behind a few decent enough players.

There's only Feikitoa you'd realistically expect to be ahead of him in the pecking order and yet we played Michael Le Bourgeois (ex-championship player, primarily a 12) at 13 ahead of him, which doesn't speak much for de Jongh's value in the team at the moment. In yesterday's game the outside back replacement who came on at 13 was an academy guy making his Prem debut.

Posted: **Thu Sep 10, 2020 11:26 am**

Imo, de Jongh's issue is that he spends more time practising his dance moves and celebrations than rugby training.

Posted: **Thu Sep 10, 2020 11:28 am**

I will certainly be surprised if his contract is renewed after the current one expires.

Posted: **Thu Sep 10, 2020 11:58 am**

sockwithaticket wrote: Thu Sep 10, 2020 11:28 am I will certainly be surprised if his contract is renewed after the current one expires.

He was never really a standout player here in SA.

Posted: **Thu Sep 10, 2020 12:02 pm**

Chilli wrote: Thu Sep 10, 2020 11:58 am
sockwithaticket wrote: Thu Sep 10, 2020 11:28 am I will certainly be surprised if his contract is renewed after the current one expires.
He was never really a standout player here in SA.

Agreed.

Posted: **Thu Sep 10, 2020 12:10 pm**

handyman wrote: Thu Sep 10, 2020 12:02 pm
Agreed.

97 games for the Stormers and 59 for WP. Somebody must have liked him.

Posted: **Thu Sep 10, 2020 12:18 pm**

assfly wrote: Thu Sep 10, 2020 12:10 pm
handyman wrote: Thu Sep 10, 2020 12:02 pm
Agreed.
97 games for the Stormers and 59 for WP. Somebody must have liked him.

His defence has always been immense, almost never missed a tackle. However he was also a terrible crowbar who never passed the fcuking ball.

Posted: **Thu Sep 10, 2020 12:23 pm**

assfly wrote: Thu Sep 10, 2020 12:10 pm
handyman wrote: Thu Sep 10, 2020 12:02 pm
Agreed.
97 games for the Stormers and 59 for WP. Somebody must have liked him.

Our centres for 2015, who would you have played : Damian de Allende, Juan de Jongh, Pat Howard, Huw Jones, Johnny Kotze, Jaco Taute, EW Viljoen.

Posted: **Thu Sep 10, 2020 12:33 pm**

handyman wrote: Thu Sep 10, 2020 12:23 pm Our centres for 2015, who would you have played : Damian de Allende, Juan de Jongh, Pat Howard, Huw Jones, Johnny Kotze, Jaco Taute, EW Viljoen.

World cup winner De Allende and Scotland superstar Huw Jones. Obviously.

Posted: **Thu Sep 10, 2020 12:38 pm**

assfly wrote: Thu Sep 10, 2020 12:33 pm
handyman wrote: Thu Sep 10, 2020 12:23 pm Our centres for 2015, who would you have played : Damian de Allende, Juan de Jongh, Pat Howard, Huw Jones, Johnny Kotze, Jaco Taute, EW Viljoen.
World cup winner De Allende and Scotland superstar Huw Jones. Obviously.

Except both were babies and didn't have the incriminating pictures of Fleck that Taute obviously did.

Posted: **Fri Sep 11, 2020 9:16 am**

Posted: **Fri Sep 11, 2020 9:23 am**

Sandstorm wrote: Thu Sep 10, 2020 12:18 pm
assfly wrote: Thu Sep 10, 2020 12:10 pm
handyman wrote: Thu Sep 10, 2020 12:02 pm
Agreed.
97 games for the Stormers and 59 for WP. Somebody must have liked him.
His defence has always been immense, almost never missed a tackle. However he was also a terrible crowbar who never passed the fcuking ball.

Why are you talking about Beach Muscles?

Posted: **Sat Sep 12, 2020 2:00 pm**

Our Springboks playing in Europe are falling like flies.... looks like Pollard is the latest on the injury list, had to go to the hospital, was stretchered of during the game. By the time SARFU decide whether the Springboks will play in the Rugby Championship or not this season, we might not have much of the team left that played in the World Cup the way the injury list is piling up.

Posted: **Sat Sep 12, 2020 4:49 pm**

Kolbe in great form.

Posted: **Mon Sep 14, 2020 1:06 pm**

Pollard ACL tear confirmed. Bummer.

Posted: **Mon Sep 14, 2020 1:08 pm**

boere wors wrote: Mon Sep 14, 2020 1:06 pm Pollard ACL tear confirmed. Bummer.

Will the Springboks be back to using the reliable Jantjies?

Posted: **Mon Sep 14, 2020 1:14 pm**

boere wors wrote: Mon Sep 14, 2020 1:06 pm Pollard ACL tear confirmed. Bummer.

FFS...Hopefully all these injured world cup stars will be ready for the Lions next year.

Who's out so far?
Snyman
Etzebeth
De Jager
Pollard

Any others?

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