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BnM wrote: Thu Dec 29, 2022 6:14 pm Is it bias free? @Neigs.

Read my previous post, glad you could make sense of it. What a mess

Ardestie Earth House, likely built in the first two centuries AD, is an underground passage over 24m long, with a stone-lined drain in its floor. Excavations in 1949 and 1950 revealed a complex of buildings at ground level, with access to the earth house within one building.

People have speculated on the use of earth houses, but the variation in shape and size across Scotland suggest there was no single consistent use. One suggestion is that they were used for storage.

Evidence suggests that most earth houses were destroyed, or at least infilled, in the late AD 100s – coinciding with the Roman withdrawal from Britain.

Niegs wrote: Sat Dec 31, 2022 6:04 am For ASMO et al., Lipscomb in the flesh on the History Hit end of year quiz.

Hugo wrote: Mon May 08, 2023 9:11 pm Thanks for posting Nieg. It reminds me, I was recently reading about a battle between (if I remember correctly) some Irish Americans and Canadians.

Here it is, the so called Fenian raids: https://time.com/5549199/irish-invade-canada/

In the same period Eoin MacNeill noted that ‘self determination is now the Watchword in World Politics … the world war was the death agony of an old world and the birth-agony of a new world.’ Sinn Féin welcomed the rise of republicanism in Europe, Fr Michael O’Flanagan telling one Mayo audience that ‘Poland and Finland and the Ukraine were today free from the subjugation of the Russian yolk … in Austria the Bohemians and the Czechs were also free, and there was no hearts in Europe more rejoiced than Irish hearts that Bohemia was a republic.’ In this context, it was difficult to claim that the demand for an Irish republic was illogical.
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Indeed the Indian nationalist Lala Lajpat Rai promised the Irish Race Convention in Philadelphia in March 1919 that ‘by 1925 there would be far more Sinn Feiners in India than in Ireland.’ Irish activists in the United States asserted that as ‘India is the pivot of the British Empire … that pivot must be broken by the combined efforts of India, Ireland, Egypt, Persia, Russia and China.’
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Hugo wrote: Mon May 08, 2023 9:11 pm Thanks for posting Nieg. It reminds me, I was recently reading about a battle between (if I remember correctly) some Irish Americans and Canadians.

Here it is, the so called Fenian raids: https://time.com/5549199/irish-invade-canada/

The Battle of Ridgeway (also known as the Battle of Lime Ridge or Limestone Ridge) was fought on the morning of 2 June 1866, near the village of Ridgeway and the town of Fort Erie in Canada West (present-day Ontario). 850 Canadian soldiers clashed with 750 to 800 Fenians, Irish American insurgents who had crossed the Niagara River from Buffalo, New York.

Preamble : Why Ridgeway is so Important to Canada 150

“The Fenian Raids, where Americans of Irish descent decided to invade parts of Canada in order to convince Britain to release Ireland from British rule seems really farfetched today, all those recently returning veteran soldiers of Irish descent from the American Civil War were a huge threat to the Canadian colonies,” explained David Pampe,The Queen’s Own Rifles (QOR),in Toronto."QOR were right there on Juno Beach and they were in the Battle of Ridgeway,”

Some Canadian historians argue that 2016, which is the 150th anniversary of the New Brunswick and Ontario Fenian Raids and the 10 regiments created in response to that threat , deserves to be as significant a date as 2017 - Canada’s 150th birthday.

And that the role played by those New Brunswick, Nova Scotia and Upper and Lower Canada volunteer militia can been seen as important as that played by the politicians then negotiating Confederation.The battle has been called ‘The Battle that created Canada.’ This conflict, and actually losing the battle but not the war, was a catalyst for Confederation.

Events of the Battle of Ridgeway

On June 1, 1866, the Fenian army of more than a thousand soldiers, which would soon grow to 2,000, crossed the Niagara River and captured Fort Erie.

Led by Lieutenant-Colonel Alfred Booker, 850 Canadians clashed with the Fenians on Ridge Road the next day in what would become known as the first modern industrial-era battle to be fought and led exclusively by Canadians. Despite the inexperience of the troops, many of them University of Toronto students just pulled from final exams, they performed well under fire, according to historic accounts from the time.

However, the anticipated reinforcement of another 600 British and Canadian troops, under Lieutenant-Colonel George Peacocke, would never reach the battle. Lieutenant-Colonel (Ret’d) Dan Mackay, former commanding officer and long-time historian for The Cameron Highlanders of Ottawa (Duke of Edinburgh's Own) explained that LCol Peacocke was using a map showing all the postal routes, which were not necessarily the most direct.

“Moreover, he did not have any cavalry, which could have provided him with valuable intelligence, including where the Canadian Militia force was located, as well as the Fenian Force, and the best route to join up with them.”

The absence of LCol Peacocke and his troops, poor communications and a questionable order to prepare for cavalry led to a Canadian defeat at Ridgeway. Nine Canadians were killed and 32 wounded. Another eight soldiers died within the year following the battle due to disease from contaminated drinking water.

fishfoodie wrote: Mon May 08, 2023 10:16 pm

Hugo wrote: Mon May 08, 2023 9:11 pm Thanks for posting Nieg. It reminds me, I was recently reading about a battle between (if I remember correctly) some Irish Americans and Canadians.

Here it is, the so called Fenian raids: https://time.com/5549199/irish-invade-canada/

You should know better than most; it's just the Irish; in a permanent state of Revolution !

The Irish in Latin America

Admiral William Brown (AKA Guillermo Brown) - founder of the Argentine Navy
Ambrose O’Higgins
Bernardo O'Higgins

The San Patricios, who got sick of being treated like shit by the WASPs, & joined the Mexicans they were supposed to be fighting

Even in Europe & beyond:

In the same period Eoin MacNeill noted that ‘self determination is now the Watchword in World Politics … the world war was the death agony of an old world and the birth-agony of a new world.’ Sinn Féin welcomed the rise of republicanism in Europe, Fr Michael O’Flanagan telling one Mayo audience that ‘Poland and Finland and the Ukraine were today free from the subjugation of the Russian yolk … in Austria the Bohemians and the Czechs were also free, and there was no hearts in Europe more rejoiced than Irish hearts that Bohemia was a republic.’ In this context, it was difficult to claim that the demand for an Irish republic was illogical.
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Indeed the Indian nationalist Lala Lajpat Rai promised the Irish Race Convention in Philadelphia in March 1919 that ‘by 1925 there would be far more Sinn Feiners in India than in Ireland.’ Irish activists in the United States asserted that as ‘India is the pivot of the British Empire … that pivot must be broken by the combined efforts of India, Ireland, Egypt, Persia, Russia and China.’
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https://www.rte.ie/centuryireland/index ... -go-global

Even in Israel, the Haganah/Irgun adopted wholescale the method & organization of SF & the IRA, & did so under the tutelage of Rob Briscoe.

The Irish are often that dog that you can kick just so many times before it decides that enough is enough.

Niegs wrote: Mon May 08, 2023 4:11 pm Saved this on St Patrick's Day, but forgot about it. An interesting tale of early Toronto (and have heard that Ottawa also had a 'Gangs of New York' feel in the 1800s, with - iirc - Irish, French-Can, and Scots gangs ruling the city until it was cleaned up).

Niegs wrote: Mon May 08, 2023 10:47 pm

Hugo wrote: Mon May 08, 2023 9:11 pm Thanks for posting Nieg. It reminds me, I was recently reading about a battle between (if I remember correctly) some Irish Americans and Canadians.

Here it is, the so called Fenian raids: https://time.com/5549199/irish-invade-canada/

A friend of mine lives in a town in which one of the battles was fought...

The Battle of Ridgeway (also known as the Battle of Lime Ridge or Limestone Ridge) was fought on the morning of 2 June 1866, near the village of Ridgeway and the town of Fort Erie in Canada West (present-day Ontario). 850 Canadian soldiers clashed with 750 to 800 Fenians, Irish American insurgents who had crossed the Niagara River from Buffalo, New York.

Preamble : Why Ridgeway is so Important to Canada 150

“The Fenian Raids, where Americans of Irish descent decided to invade parts of Canada in order to convince Britain to release Ireland from British rule seems really farfetched today, all those recently returning veteran soldiers of Irish descent from the American Civil War were a huge threat to the Canadian colonies,” explained David Pampe,The Queen’s Own Rifles (QOR),in Toronto."QOR were right there on Juno Beach and they were in the Battle of Ridgeway,”

Some Canadian historians argue that 2016, which is the 150th anniversary of the New Brunswick and Ontario Fenian Raids and the 10 regiments created in response to that threat , deserves to be as significant a date as 2017 - Canada’s 150th birthday.

And that the role played by those New Brunswick, Nova Scotia and Upper and Lower Canada volunteer militia can been seen as important as that played by the politicians then negotiating Confederation.The battle has been called ‘The Battle that created Canada.’ This conflict, and actually losing the battle but not the war, was a catalyst for Confederation.

Events of the Battle of Ridgeway

On June 1, 1866, the Fenian army of more than a thousand soldiers, which would soon grow to 2,000, crossed the Niagara River and captured Fort Erie.

Led by Lieutenant-Colonel Alfred Booker, 850 Canadians clashed with the Fenians on Ridge Road the next day in what would become known as the first modern industrial-era battle to be fought and led exclusively by Canadians. Despite the inexperience of the troops, many of them University of Toronto students just pulled from final exams, they performed well under fire, according to historic accounts from the time.

However, the anticipated reinforcement of another 600 British and Canadian troops, under Lieutenant-Colonel George Peacocke, would never reach the battle. Lieutenant-Colonel (Ret’d) Dan Mackay, former commanding officer and long-time historian for The Cameron Highlanders of Ottawa (Duke of Edinburgh's Own) explained that LCol Peacocke was using a map showing all the postal routes, which were not necessarily the most direct.

“Moreover, he did not have any cavalry, which could have provided him with valuable intelligence, including where the Canadian Militia force was located, as well as the Fenian Force, and the best route to join up with them.”

The absence of LCol Peacocke and his troops, poor communications and a questionable order to prepare for cavalry led to a Canadian defeat at Ridgeway. Nine Canadians were killed and 32 wounded. Another eight soldiers died within the year following the battle due to disease from contaminated drinking water.

The museum I worked for had one of these, I think with just one bar. It was an interesting tradition - doubt it's still a thing - to just get a campaign/battle bar on a general service medal/ribbon.

Niegs wrote: Mon May 08, 2023 10:47 pm
The museum I worked for had one of these, I think with just one bar. It was an interesting tradition - doubt it's still a thing - to just get a campaign/battle bar on a general service medal/ribbon.

Niegs wrote: Mon Oct 23, 2023 3:02 am This historian doesn't mince her words! (time stamped at a point that sums it all up, really)

Dinsdale Piranha wrote: Mon Oct 23, 2023 9:03 am

Niegs wrote: Mon Oct 23, 2023 3:02 am This historian doesn't mince her words! (time stamped at a point that sums it all up, really)

"The uploader has not made this video available in your country"

Niegs wrote: Mon Oct 23, 2023 1:43 pm

Dinsdale Piranha wrote: Mon Oct 23, 2023 9:03 am

Niegs wrote: Mon Oct 23, 2023 3:02 am This historian doesn't mince her words! (time stamped at a point that sums it all up, really)

"The uploader has not made this video available in your country"

Oh, that's weird. I wonder if the whole channel's blocked or just this historical 'Fight Club' series?

Anyway, Georgian London women's bareknuckle boxing... researcher says they were stripped to the waist because one could be swung around by the corset "... and, you know, people want to see their tits."

Niegs wrote: Mon Oct 23, 2023 1:43 pm

Dinsdale Piranha wrote: Mon Oct 23, 2023 9:03 am

Niegs wrote: Mon Oct 23, 2023 3:02 am This historian doesn't mince her words! (time stamped at a point that sums it all up, really)

"The uploader has not made this video available in your country"

Oh, that's weird. I wonder if the whole channel's blocked or just this historical 'Fight Club' series?

Anyway, Georgian London women's bareknuckle boxing... researcher says they were stripped to the waist because one could be swung around by the corset "... and, you know, people want to see their tits."

shaggy wrote: Mon Oct 23, 2023 6:14 pm

Niegs wrote: Mon Oct 23, 2023 1:43 pm

Dinsdale Piranha wrote: Mon Oct 23, 2023 9:03 am

"The uploader has not made this video available in your country"

Oh, that's weird. I wonder if the whole channel's blocked or just this historical 'Fight Club' series?

Anyway, Georgian London women's bareknuckle boxing... researcher says they were stripped to the waist because one could be swung around by the corset "... and, you know, people want to see their tits."

And now it’s back to topless darts at Roehampton.

Uncle fester wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 10:12 am The Knights Hospitaller air force story is hilarious as well.

Hugo wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 5:20 pm This is an interesting one, the Anglo-Soviet invasion of Iran in 1941: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Sov ... on_of_Iran

Basically it was to limit German influence in neutral lran and ensure allied supply lines to the Soviet Union. Following the invasion, on 16 September 1941 Reza Shah abdicated and was forced into exile by us. Its somewhat interesting because he was someone who had worked for 15 odd years (by that time) to secularise Iran and reduce the political power of the Muslim clergy.

Hugo wrote: Tue Mar 19, 2024 7:06 pm Also, another thing I stumbled on the other day. The America hero of the My Lai massacre, Hugh Thompson, a helicopter pilot. This is a moving piece, he was obviously a very noble man and it seems his story should be more widely known. He was flying over where the massacre was taking place, landed and placed himself between the American forces and the Vietnamese people they were killing and said that if they opened fire on the Vietnamese then he would open fire on them:
https://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/l ... story.html