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Posted: **Mon Feb 20, 2023 9:59 am**

Blackmac wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 9:49 am
Raggs wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 9:36 am
Blackmac wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 9:19 am Love him or loath him, Clarkson's Farm is doing an incredible job of highlighting the difficulties facing farmers these days. Encouraged to diversify but blocked by red tape and Nimbyism at every stop. The twat that stood up and said he would not be able to see the stars at night if Clarkson opened his restaurant was a joke. The other thing that is obvious, and confirmed by Charlie Ireland is that the council's constant decisions against Clarkson have got very personal and vindictive.
Having caught a few tweets that seem to be related, is it bringing up badger culling for TB?
Yeah, not the culling, but the connection between Badgers and Bovine TB.

Did they mention that badger to bovine TB is reckoned to be less than 10% of the cause of the spread? And even the results that show a greater drop in some culls (not all), is probably more down to the fact that the cows are being tested properly, and isolated properly, due to the experiment, rather than the actual dead badgers?

EDIT - Sorry, personal bugbear.

Posted: **Mon Feb 20, 2023 10:15 am**

Raggs wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 9:59 am
Blackmac wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 9:49 am
Raggs wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 9:36 am

Having caught a few tweets that seem to be related, is it bringing up badger culling for TB?
Yeah, not the culling, but the connection between Badgers and Bovine TB.
Did they mention that badger to bovine TB is reckoned to be less than 10% of the cause of the spread? And even the results that show a greater drop in some culls (not all), is probably more down to the fact that the cows are being tested properly, and isolated properly, due to the experiment, rather than the actual dead badgers?

EDIT - Sorry, personal bugbear.

I would say they highlighted Badgers as a contributing factor, certainly didn't blame them entirely.

Posted: **Mon Feb 20, 2023 10:45 am**

Blackmac wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 10:15 am
Raggs wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 9:59 am
Blackmac wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 9:49 am

Yeah, not the culling, but the connection between Badgers and Bovine TB.
Did they mention that badger to bovine TB is reckoned to be less than 10% of the cause of the spread? And even the results that show a greater drop in some culls (not all), is probably more down to the fact that the cows are being tested properly, and isolated properly, due to the experiment, rather than the actual dead badgers?

EDIT - Sorry, personal bugbear.
I would say they highlighted Badgers as a contributing factor, certainly didn't blame them entirely.

Were they actually that circumspect? Doesn't sound very Clarkson and frankly even bringing it up given how small a contribution badgers supposedly make is pretty irresponsible.

Posted: **Mon Feb 20, 2023 11:43 am**

sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 10:45 am

Were they actually that circumspect? Doesn't sound very Clarkson and frankly even bringing it up given how small a contribution badgers supposedly make is pretty irresponsible.

I thought he was surprisingly chilled about it (apart from making a few jokes early on about shooting a few or running them down in his Range Rover...)

The Environment Agency dropped off a dead badger collection kit, he found a dead badger on his land, bagged it up and sent it off. It came back positive for TB....

Posted: **Mon Feb 20, 2023 12:54 pm**

Sandstorm wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 11:43 am
sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 10:45 am

Were they actually that circumspect? Doesn't sound very Clarkson and frankly even bringing it up given how small a contribution badgers supposedly make is pretty irresponsible.
I thought he was surprisingly chilled about it (apart from making a few jokes early on about shooting a few or running them down in his Range Rover...)

The Environment Agency dropped off a dead badger collection kit, he found a dead badger on his land, bagged it up and sent it off. It came back positive for TB....

Exactly. But let's assume it was otherwise.

Posted: **Mon Feb 20, 2023 1:05 pm**

No one denies that badgers can contract TB, it's the extent to which they're a vector for transmission to cows that is called into question.

Posted: **Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:14 pm**

sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 1:05 pm No one denies that badgers can contract TB, it's the extent to which they're a vector for transmission to cows that is called into question.

What are the other likely candidates?

I assume there’s a lot of correlation is why there is finger pointing.

Posted: **Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:19 pm**

Ymx wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:14 pm
sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 1:05 pm No one denies that badgers can contract TB, it's the extent to which they're a vector for transmission to cows that is called into question.
What are the other likely candidates?

I assume there’s a lot of correlation is why there is finger pointing.

Condors

Posted: **Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:21 pm**

Ymx wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:14 pm
sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 1:05 pm No one denies that badgers can contract TB, it's the extent to which they're a vector for transmission to cows that is called into question.
What are the other likely candidates?

I assume there’s a lot of correlation is why there is finger pointing.

Cows. Cows give it to cows, far more than badgers give it to cows. Individual cows/herds get bought and sold and pass the disease along.

There's a working vaccine now too, it requires an updated test (which has been invented), but seemingly it's easier to keep doing things that don't work properly.

Posted: **Fri Feb 24, 2023 12:36 am**

I'm a bit late to it and only two episodes in, but Taboo is excellent thus far.

Tom Hardy really is a superlative actor when he puts his mind to it.

Posted: **Sun Feb 26, 2023 12:28 am**

sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 12:36 am I'm a bit late to it and only two episodes in, but Taboo is excellent thus far.

Tom Hardy really is a superlative actor when he puts his mind to it.

Watched it recently enough. Some bits a bit silly but the performances are excellent.
Enjoy.

I believe it was a Hardy family effort. His dad was involved too I think?

Posted: **Sun Feb 26, 2023 12:34 am**

sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 12:36 am I'm a bit late to it and only two episodes in, but Taboo is excellent thus far.

Tom Hardy really is a superlative actor when he puts his mind to it.

Loved it. I only recently realised that Tom Hardy was in Band of Brothers.. looking very youthful.

Posted: **Sun Feb 26, 2023 7:41 am**

Uncle fester wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 12:28 am
sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 12:36 am I'm a bit late to it and only two episodes in, but Taboo is excellent thus far.

Tom Hardy really is a superlative actor when he puts his mind to it.
Watched it recently enough. Some bits a bit silly but the performances are excellent.
Enjoy.

I believe it was a Hardy family effort. His dad was involved too I think?

Supposedly there is going to be another series at some point, though recall Hardy saying he didn’t really know where they wanted to go with it, so guessing it won’t be imminent.

Jonathan Pryce probably doubled his lifetime count of using the F word in this series!

Posted: **Wed Mar 01, 2023 4:58 pm**

The Consultant on Prime.

Jesus Christ!! It's weird and magnificent!

Posted: **Mon Mar 06, 2023 4:44 pm**

Sandstorm wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 4:58 pm The Consultant on Prime.

Jesus Christ!! It's weird and magnificent!

It’s a crazy and marvellous one alright.

Posted: **Mon Mar 06, 2023 6:21 pm**

Picard season 3 is a return of the old guard and a return to a decent program

Posted: **Mon Mar 06, 2023 6:29 pm**

Sandstorm wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 4:58 pm The Consultant on Prime.

Jesus Christ!! It's weird and magnificent!

Meh, started well enough, built intrigue and then culminated in a very disappointing and flat and weak ending.

Posted: **Mon Mar 06, 2023 6:36 pm**

E8 of Last of Us was a bit, um, darker than usual.

Posted: **Mon Mar 06, 2023 9:04 pm**

Insane_Homer wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 6:36 pm E8 of Last of Us was a bit, um, darker than usual.

Whilst it is in the game, I wasn't expecting to see

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Ellie going full postal on David, thought they'd tone it down a bit for the show

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For those who don't know, Troy Baker who voiced Joel in the game has a supporting character role in this episode

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who in a great ironic twist gets killed by Ellie

Posted: **Mon Mar 06, 2023 9:18 pm**

I’m really liking the last of us. And I’m not really annoyed by the girl as many are. Or have you lot softened your hate?

Posted: **Tue Mar 07, 2023 8:17 am**

Ymx wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 9:18 pm I’m really liking the last of us. And I’m not really annoyed by the girl as many are. Or have you lot softened your hate?

She's still annoying... I keep hoping she dies... "Hostel" style. And I am still underwhelmed by the whole series apart from episode 3... the rest have been ho hum... I'm still waiting for it to get going... the dialogue is basic and the plot almost non-existent... the production is decent which is about it's only saving grace. I found Station 11 had more going for it.

Posted: **Tue Mar 07, 2023 8:47 am**

Grandpa wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 8:17 am
Ymx wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 9:18 pm I’m really liking the last of us. And I’m not really annoyed by the girl as many are. Or have you lot softened your hate?
She's still annoying... I keep hoping she dies... "Hostel" style. And I am still underwhelmed by the whole series apart from episode 3... the rest have been ho hum... I'm still waiting for it to get going... the dialogue is basic and the plot almost non-existent... the production is decent which is about it's only saving grace. I found Station 11 had more going for it.

I bailed during episode 4. Figured if e3 was so lauded, but was almost a stand-alone episode, it could only be downhill from there. And not being a gamer I found the 'escapes' of the first two episodes a bit meh. Face a predicament, need a tool or awesome action to pass obstacle, find/execute same, rinse and repeat. And yeah, the dialogue's bog standard.

Just watched the first episode of Forgotten series 5, and just about to watch the second. No special effects so far, apart from a charred corpse stuck up a chimney, but top notch writing as expected.

Posted: **Tue Mar 07, 2023 9:18 am**

Hmmm. This is coming from those who rated brokenwood mysteries and Giri/Haji

Posted: **Tue Mar 07, 2023 9:29 am**

Ymx wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 9:18 am Hmmm. This is coming from those who rated brokenwood mysteries and Giri/Haji

Haven't watched Brokenwood, but thought Giri/Haji was quite original and entertaining. What keeps you watching TLOU, Ymx? Were you a fan of the game?

Posted: **Tue Mar 07, 2023 9:44 am**

Yeah I called it quits after episode 2 and hearing what episode 3 was about. The only reason I was watching was for fungal zombies, an hour plus episode that's basically a romantic drama? No thanks.

Posted: **Tue Mar 07, 2023 10:05 am**

Gumboot wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 9:29 am
Ymx wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 9:18 am Hmmm. This is coming from those who rated brokenwood mysteries and Giri/Haji
Haven't watched Brokenwood, but thought Giri/Haji was quite original and entertaining. What keeps you watching TLOU, Ymx? Were you a fan of the game?

I think Pedro Pascal is excellent. I like the fact it is not just Zombie episode after Zombie episode (brains just being smashed up), and that it’s not quite predictable.

Posted: **Tue Mar 07, 2023 10:10 am**

Ymx wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 10:05 am
Gumboot wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 9:29 am
Ymx wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 9:18 am Hmmm. This is coming from those who rated brokenwood mysteries and Giri/Haji
Haven't watched Brokenwood, but thought Giri/Haji was quite original and entertaining. What keeps you watching TLOU, Ymx? Were you a fan of the game?
I think Pedro Pascal is excellent. I like the fact it is not just Zombie episode after Zombie episode (brains just being smashed up), and that it’s not quite predictable.

Cheers, glad you're enjoying it. Believe next week's the finale so hope it's a ripper.

Posted: **Tue Mar 07, 2023 10:27 am**

Ymx wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 9:18 am Hmmm. This is coming from those who rated brokenwood mysteries and Giri/Haji

I like Brokenwood because it doesn't pretend to be serious and I get to see parts of NZ I had forgotten about... so it's sentimental..

Posted: **Tue Mar 07, 2023 10:28 am**

Gumboot wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 8:47 am
Grandpa wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 8:17 am
Ymx wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 9:18 pm I’m really liking the last of us. And I’m not really annoyed by the girl as many are. Or have you lot softened your hate?
She's still annoying... I keep hoping she dies... "Hostel" style. And I am still underwhelmed by the whole series apart from episode 3... the rest have been ho hum... I'm still waiting for it to get going... the dialogue is basic and the plot almost non-existent... the production is decent which is about it's only saving grace. I found Station 11 had more going for it.
I bailed during episode 4. Figured if e3 was so lauded, but was almost a stand-alone episode, it could only be downhill from there. And not being a gamer I found the 'escapes' of the first two episodes a bit meh. Face a predicament, need a tool or awesome action to pass obstacle, find/execute same, rinse and repeat. And yeah, the dialogue's bog standard.

Just watched the first episode of Forgotten series 5, and just about to watch the second. No special effects so far, apart from a charred corpse stuck up a chimney, but top notch writing as expected.

I'm continuing with Last of Us because I keep thinking... there must be a point when this transforms itself. I preferred Pascal in Narcos and GOT.

Do you mean Unforgotten? That is usually pretty good... I can't find a Forgotten TV series with 5 seasons?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unforgotten

Posted: **Tue Mar 07, 2023 10:58 am**

Grandpa wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 10:28 amDo you mean Unforgotten? That is usually pretty good... I can't find a Forgotten TV series with 5 seasons?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unforgotten

Yep sorry, it's Unforgotten - my bad. Thought the third series in particular was very good.

Posted: **Tue Mar 07, 2023 11:08 am**

Gumboot wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 10:58 am
Grandpa wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 10:28 amDo you mean Unforgotten? That is usually pretty good... I can't find a Forgotten TV series with 5 seasons?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unforgotten
Yep sorry, it's Unforgotten - my bad. Thought the third series in particular was very good.

I agree. I only stumbled upon it by accident.. so well written and acted... it's nicely understated with simple plots... but still gripping...

Posted: **Tue Mar 07, 2023 11:19 am**

Grandpa wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 10:27 am
Ymx wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 9:18 am Hmmm. This is coming from those who rated brokenwood mysteries and Giri/Haji
I like Brokenwood because it doesn't pretend to be serious and I get to see parts of NZ I had forgotten about... so it's sentimental..

I must admit I only watched one episode, but it was pretty dire. I understand the nostalgia.

Then again I really liked Wellington Paranormal for its silliness.

Posted: **Tue Mar 07, 2023 11:22 am**

Grandpa wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 11:08 am
Gumboot wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 10:58 am
Grandpa wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 10:28 amDo you mean Unforgotten? That is usually pretty good... I can't find a Forgotten TV series with 5 seasons?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unforgotten
Yep sorry, it's Unforgotten - my bad. Thought the third series in particular was very good.
I agree. I only stumbled upon it by accident.. so well written and acted... it's nicely understated with simple plots... but still gripping...

And there's such a great premise to the series. It's so simple but so effective. Everyone else may have "forgotten" who the victim is, but our ordinary heroes keep plugging away for just that reason. It's an old school cop show in many ways, and all the better for it imho.

Posted: **Tue Mar 07, 2023 11:29 am**

Gumboot wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 11:22 am
Grandpa wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 11:08 am
Gumboot wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 10:58 am

Yep sorry, it's Unforgotten - my bad. Thought the third series in particular was very good.
I agree. I only stumbled upon it by accident.. so well written and acted... it's nicely understated with simple plots... but still gripping...
And there's such a great premise to the series. It's so simple but so effective. Everyone else may have "forgotten" who the victim is, but our ordinary heroes keep plugging away for just that reason. It's an old school cop show in many ways, and all the better for it imho.

I haven't actually seen Series 5 yet. Didn't know it was on... first one since Nicola left... Downloading it now... It is old school... but different too.

Posted: **Tue Mar 07, 2023 11:30 am**

Ymx wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 11:19 am
Grandpa wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 10:27 am
Ymx wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 9:18 am Hmmm. This is coming from those who rated brokenwood mysteries and Giri/Haji
I like Brokenwood because it doesn't pretend to be serious and I get to see parts of NZ I had forgotten about... so it's sentimental..
I must admit I only watched one episode, but it was pretty dire. I understand the nostalgia.

Then again I really liked Wellington Paranormal for its silliness.

One of the first ones was based on a golf course I used to play on a lot as a kid... Redwood Park. So that was me hooked...

Posted: **Tue Mar 07, 2023 11:35 am**

Grandpa wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 11:29 am
Gumboot wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 11:22 am
Grandpa wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 11:08 am

I agree. I only stumbled upon it by accident.. so well written and acted... it's nicely understated with simple plots... but still gripping...
And there's such a great premise to the series. It's so simple but so effective. Everyone else may have "forgotten" who the victim is, but our ordinary heroes keep plugging away for just that reason. It's an old school cop show in many ways, and all the better for it imho.
I haven't actually seen Series 5 yet. Didn't know it was on... first one since Nicola left... Downloading it now... It is old school... but different too.

I'm only 2 episodes in, but really enjoying it so far.

Posted: **Tue Mar 07, 2023 11:40 am**

Gumboot wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 11:35 am
Grandpa wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 11:29 am
Gumboot wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 11:22 am

And there's such a great premise to the series. It's so simple but so effective. Everyone else may have "forgotten" who the victim is, but our ordinary heroes keep plugging away for just that reason. It's an old school cop show in many ways, and all the better for it imho.
I haven't actually seen Series 5 yet. Didn't know it was on... first one since Nicola left... Downloading it now... It is old school... but different too.
I'm only 2 episodes in, but really enjoying it so far.

Have they replaced Nicola? Does Sanjeev have a new partner in crime?

Posted: **Tue Mar 07, 2023 10:02 pm**

Grandpa wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 11:40 amHave they replaced Nicola? Does Sanjeev have a new partner in crime?

Yep, Cassie's been replaced by Jessie...who has already managed to piss off pretty much everyone else.

Posted: **Wed Mar 08, 2023 6:54 am**

The only thing I dislike about it is the long prevalent intro credits sequence with all the "blink and you've missed it" clues and red herrings that come with this kind of show. Was it originally an American thing that's been adopted by UK police procedurals? The Wire > True Detective > Sharp Objects > Mare of Easttown... Whatever the case, it's becoming quite cliched imho.

Posted: **Wed Mar 08, 2023 8:17 am**

Gumboot wrote: ↑Wed Mar 08, 2023 6:54 am The only thing I dislike about it is the long prevalent intro credits sequence with all the "blink and you've missed it" clues and red herrings that come with this kind of show. Was it originally an American thing that's been adopted by UK police procedurals? The Wire > True Detective > Sharp Objects > Mare of Easttown... Whatever the case, it's becoming quite cliched imho.

I agree though I liked Unforgotten because it didn't seem to go overboard in this area. One show that annoys me to the point I can't watch it is Line of Duty!

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