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Hopefully Nienaber and co worked on Fassi's kicking. No chance to play fullback for the Boks if you don't know how to kick. It seems there aren't kicking coaches at the saaks.
Gelant is on his way to the Bok team. Play brilliant rugby.handyman wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 12:03 pmHopefully Nienaber and co worked on Fassi's kicking. No chance to play fullback for the Boks if you don't know how to kick. It seems there aren't kicking coaches at the saaks.
On fire atm, let's hope he stays injury free.OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 12:23 pmGelant is on his way to the Bok team. Play brilliant rugby.
Morne is en route to joining the Bulls, so no reason why other fringe players don't.
He is playing great rugby. And we have seen him, unlike the fringe Bok players who have done nothing for weeks.handyman wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 12:25 pmOn fire atm, let's hope he stays injury free.OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 12:23 pmGelant is on his way to the Bok team. Play brilliant rugby.
You obviously have not watched himhandyman wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 12:03 pmHopefully Nienaber and co worked on Fassi's kicking. No chance to play fullback for the Boks if you don't know how to kick. It seems there aren't kicking coaches at the saaks.
STORMERS GAME WAS LIKE A TEST MATCH
Schoeman is expecting a tough match against the Bulls, and says his teammates were already quite surprised by the lift in physicality and intensity they experienced when they drew with the DHL Stormers last weekend.
“I was so excited to be playing against South African players again and the local boys were too. We knew it would be more physical than we are used to, and the Stormers didn’t disappoint in that regard, they were physical on defence and on attack too. The guys were all a little bit more excited and nervous than they normally are before a game and many of them admitted afterwards that it was closer to a test match than a normal Pro14 or URC match.
“While it was all out between the white lines, it was also fun. I spoke some Afrikaans before the time. I know Warrick Gelant from my time with the Bulls and I also know Evan Roos quite well, and Brok Harris was playing club rugby over here for many years. But it was very competitive on the pitch, and a bit more personal than usual.”
ADAPTING QUICKLY
Schoeman, having played in Europe for three years now, reckons that the South Africans were given a particularly tough start to the competition. Or at least the Bulls and the Sharks were as they went up against Pro14 champions Leinster and beaten finalists Munster respectively. He wasn’t surprised at the results of those games.
“It was a very tough baptism to be playing a competition that is so completely new to them and starting out at Thomond Park and also against Leinster in Dublin, but we are already seeing the transition,” said Schoeman.
“Coaches are innovative and speak to the opposition coaches after the games and to referees. South Africans are very good at adapting quickly. We talk about going back to the drawing board, and we do that quickly, we adapt quickly. And I am seeing that happening. In a few years, all these young players are going to be very experienced at European conditions and European playing styles and that is going to make them feared opponents no matter who they play against.”
He’s hoping his old teammates at the Bulls won’t have adjusted too quickly ahead of Saturday’s game. He admits it is a bit weird to be preparing to play against old friends and is looking forward to having a cup of coffee with some of them on Friday night.
WEIRD TO BE PLAYING THE BULLS
“It is a bit weird to be playing against the Bulls, I keep thinking back to those days where we sat around Loftus after training sessions talking about the next match and our chances,” he said.
“The Bulls are coming through on Friday and I am hoping to meet up with some of them. There are a few guys in the team and in the management who I know well, and it will be nice to have a coffee with them on Friday. Rugby is known for the brotherships that are built up, and it will be nice to meet up, but then the next day, as Bakkies (Botha) would say, you put everything into it.
“There is more motivation for me playing against the Bulls but I have to try and treat it like another game. There is a fine balance between being motivated and getting carried away and being too enthusiastic. So the key is to try and not make it too personal as that might make you deviate away from the team goal and plan, and rugby is a team game.”
All of the best boet. Word of caution, the Proteas in World Cups is bad for your health...FalseBayFC wrote: ↑Fri Oct 15, 2021 6:34 am I'm under strict instructions from my doctor to take it easy for the next month. Bed rest, no booze. So I'll be watching rugby and T20 world cup non-stop for a while.
Thanks man. Luckily my heart is strong.handyman wrote: ↑Fri Oct 15, 2021 6:41 amAll of the best boet. Word of caution, the Proteas in World Cups is bad for your health...FalseBayFC wrote: ↑Fri Oct 15, 2021 6:34 am I'm under strict instructions from my doctor to take it easy for the next month. Bed rest, no booze. So I'll be watching rugby and T20 world cup non-stop for a while.
Decisions Decisions.....at least the Lions have a win so far....might give Stormers my sympathy view hoping they can come right and get that first victory
Even my kids don't watch.handyman wrote: ↑Fri Oct 15, 2021 6:41 amAll of the best boet. Word of caution, the Proteas in World Cups is bad for your health...FalseBayFC wrote: ↑Fri Oct 15, 2021 6:34 am I'm under strict instructions from my doctor to take it easy for the next month. Bed rest, no booze. So I'll be watching rugby and T20 world cup non-stop for a while.
Lions game probably higher scoring but Ulster should get over the line handy enough.
The kiwis use the set piece as a base to set up their backs. They have a skilled mobile tight five that join the line on attack. The faster they can join the line the better. They are the best at what they do and this idea that we should be more like them is idiotic. This is why I have such an issue with people saying we should play more like them. We cant compete with them on their level and we should not want to be like them, we should want to be better than them.OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Fri Oct 15, 2021 6:11 am Also watching the NPC. Not only the rucks. Their 1st phase (scrumming & lineouts) also very loose at times. Their fatties ball skills is fantastic but there is a difference in the important forward tasks. Their defenses is also weaker then us. Last weekend our teams defenses were fantastic.
I love the NH crowds. I cant remember when our layers last played in front of such big crowds. Trust me , that make a massive difference for any player. Same time zone is also a difference.
Yard cricket is the best.Sards wrote: ↑Fri Oct 15, 2021 7:17 amEven my kids don't watch.handyman wrote: ↑Fri Oct 15, 2021 6:41 amAll of the best boet. Word of caution, the Proteas in World Cups is bad for your health...FalseBayFC wrote: ↑Fri Oct 15, 2021 6:34 am I'm under strict instructions from my doctor to take it easy for the next month. Bed rest, no booze. So I'll be watching rugby and T20 world cup non-stop for a while.
My youngest has his first ever hardball match this Saturday morning. Still waiting for the neighbors to throw some balls back over the wall. He has sweet timing. We do mini matches where the 2 bowl an over them bat the next over for 6 overs. Highest score wins.
Wickets are 5 points. Anyway the eldest tips and runs but the youngster just lets rip. Mom outer fielder Dad coach and umpire. Eldest has sat out on his game this Saturday to go watch the other and help mom with the scoring calls, wides, leg byes etc. Yup mom volunteered again. The eldest has been coaching the younger with the bowling this whole week.
Thisaverage joe wrote: ↑Fri Oct 15, 2021 8:10 amThe kiwis use the set piece as a base to set up their backs. They have a skilled mobile tight five that join the line on attack. The faster they can join the line the better. They are the best at what they do and this idea that we should be more like them is idiotic. This is why I have such an issue with people saying we should play more like them. We cant compete with them on their level and we should not want to be like them, we should want to be better than them.OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Fri Oct 15, 2021 6:11 am Also watching the NPC. Not only the rucks. Their 1st phase (scrumming & lineouts) also very loose at times. Their fatties ball skills is fantastic but there is a difference in the important forward tasks. Their defenses is also weaker then us. Last weekend our teams defenses were fantastic.
I love the NH crowds. I cant remember when our layers last played in front of such big crowds. Trust me , that make a massive difference for any player. Same time zone is also a difference.
Saffas relish contact , we would much rather run over or through you than around you. The fastest way from point A to point B is in a straight line. Super Rugby did more harm than good to our teams. Playing in the North will have us play more towards our strengths.
plusWe always seem to say things like this and suggest that the NZ forwards are not great in the set piece etc, but can anyone remember when a NZ pack got shunted around or didn't at least have parity. Every time they come north the excitement seems to be around our packs dominating them and it never happens.average joe wrote: ↑Fri Oct 15, 2021 8:10 amThe kiwis use the set piece as a base to set up their backs. They have a skilled mobile tight five that join the line on attack. The faster they can join the line the better. They are the best at what they do and this idea that we should be more like them is idiotic. This is why I have such an issue with people saying we should play more like them. We cant compete with them on their level and we should not want to be like them, we should want to be better than them.OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Fri Oct 15, 2021 6:11 am Also watching the NPC. Not only the rucks. Their 1st phase (scrumming & lineouts) also very loose at times. Their fatties ball skills is fantastic but there is a difference in the important forward tasks. Their defenses is also weaker then us. Last weekend our teams defenses were fantastic.
I love the NH crowds. I cant remember when our layers last played in front of such big crowds. Trust me , that make a massive difference for any player. Same time zone is also a difference.
Saffas relish contact , we would much rather run over or through you than around you. The fastest way from point A to point B is in a straight line. Super Rugby did more harm than good to our teams. Playing in the North will have us play more towards our strengths.
Slick wrote: ↑Fri Oct 15, 2021 8:28 amTheir pack got punished in the last two Bok tests and the Wallaby pack had parity with them. The English were all over them at the World cup. Their lineout is shaky at the moment, breakdown work is weak and their scrum is very average for an AB team. Their forwards are still great at linking play and in the loose.average joe wrote: ↑Fri Oct 15, 2021 8:10 amThe kiwis use the set piece as a base to set up their backs. They have a skilled mobile tight five that join the line on attack. The faster they can join the line the better. They are the best at what they do and this idea that we should be more like them is idiotic. This is why I have such an issue with people saying we should play more like them. We cant compete with them on their level and we should not want to be like them, we should want to be better than them.OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Fri Oct 15, 2021 6:11 am Also watching the NPC. Not only the rucks. Their 1st phase (scrumming & lineouts) also very loose at times. Their fatties ball skills is fantastic but there is a difference in the important forward tasks. Their defenses is also weaker then us. Last weekend our teams defenses were fantastic.
I love the NH crowds. I cant remember when our layers last played in front of such big crowds. Trust me , that make a massive difference for any player. Same time zone is also a difference.
Saffas relish contact , we would much rather run over or through you than around you. The fastest way from point A to point B is in a straight line. Super Rugby did more harm than good to our teams. Playing in the North will have us play more towards our strengths.
We always seem to say things like this and suggest that the NZ forwards are not great in the set piece etc, but can anyone remember when a NZ pack got shunted around or didn't at least have parity. Every time they come north the excitement seems to be around our packs dominating them and it never happens.
Nonsense. We've won all our matches in the last two years by Cheslin Kolbe, Lukhanyo Am or Wllie running around people. Nobody is saying we should be AB clones. But the criticism of the Boks has been valid imo. 2009-2019 was the worst period in Springbok history results wise. Coincidentally it was also the period where the myth of Springboks DNA emerged.average joe wrote: ↑Fri Oct 15, 2021 8:10 amThe kiwis use the set piece as a base to set up their backs. They have a skilled mobile tight five that join the line on attack. The faster they can join the line the better. They are the best at what they do and this idea that we should be more like them is idiotic. This is why I have such an issue with people saying we should play more like them. We cant compete with them on their level and we should not want to be like them, we should want to be better than them.OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Fri Oct 15, 2021 6:11 am Also watching the NPC. Not only the rucks. Their 1st phase (scrumming & lineouts) also very loose at times. Their fatties ball skills is fantastic but there is a difference in the important forward tasks. Their defenses is also weaker then us. Last weekend our teams defenses were fantastic.
I love the NH crowds. I cant remember when our layers last played in front of such big crowds. Trust me , that make a massive difference for any player. Same time zone is also a difference.
Saffas relish contact , we would much rather run over or through you than around you. The fastest way from point A to point B is in a straight line. Super Rugby did more harm than good to our teams. Playing in the North will have us play more towards our strengths.
We have some skilled backs that can run around when the need arises. We also have big strong forwards that can bully teams in the set piece and milk penalties, win turn overs. It would be stupid not to use this and pick smaller more mobile forwards just so we can compete with the AB at their level. You cant beat them like that, they will out run and out skill you every day of the week and twice on Sundays.FalseBayFC wrote: ↑Fri Oct 15, 2021 8:52 amNonsense. We've won all our matches in the last two years by Cheslin Kolbe, Lukhanyo Am or Wllie running around people. Nobody is saying we should be AB clones. But the criticism of the Boks has been valid imo. 2009-2019 was the worst period in Springbok history results wise. Coincidentally it was also the period where the myth of Springboks DNA emerged.average joe wrote: ↑Fri Oct 15, 2021 8:10 amThe kiwis use the set piece as a base to set up their backs. They have a skilled mobile tight five that join the line on attack. The faster they can join the line the better. They are the best at what they do and this idea that we should be more like them is idiotic. This is why I have such an issue with people saying we should play more like them. We cant compete with them on their level and we should not want to be like them, we should want to be better than them.OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Fri Oct 15, 2021 6:11 am Also watching the NPC. Not only the rucks. Their 1st phase (scrumming & lineouts) also very loose at times. Their fatties ball skills is fantastic but there is a difference in the important forward tasks. Their defenses is also weaker then us. Last weekend our teams defenses were fantastic.
I love the NH crowds. I cant remember when our layers last played in front of such big crowds. Trust me , that make a massive difference for any player. Same time zone is also a difference.
Saffas relish contact , we would much rather run over or through you than around you. The fastest way from point A to point B is in a straight line. Super Rugby did more harm than good to our teams. Playing in the North will have us play more towards our strengths.
Agreed. Evan Roos and Elrigh Louw are massive youngsters who match the AB's on the skill front. They are forwards who can play a linking role or be a steamroller. No reason why our youngsters can't reach the skill levels the Kiwis do. Its just a matter of development and coaching.average joe wrote: ↑Fri Oct 15, 2021 10:46 amWe have some skilled backs that can run around when the need arises. We also have big strong forwards that can bully teams in the set piece and milk penalties, win turn overs. It would be stupid not to use this and pick smaller more mobile forwards just so we can compete with the AB at their level. You cant beat them like that, they will out run and out skill you every day of the week and twice on Sundays.FalseBayFC wrote: ↑Fri Oct 15, 2021 8:52 amNonsense. We've won all our matches in the last two years by Cheslin Kolbe, Lukhanyo Am or Wllie running around people. Nobody is saying we should be AB clones. But the criticism of the Boks has been valid imo. 2009-2019 was the worst period in Springbok history results wise. Coincidentally it was also the period where the myth of Springboks DNA emerged.average joe wrote: ↑Fri Oct 15, 2021 8:10 am
The kiwis use the set piece as a base to set up their backs. They have a skilled mobile tight five that join the line on attack. The faster they can join the line the better. They are the best at what they do and this idea that we should be more like them is idiotic. This is why I have such an issue with people saying we should play more like them. We cant compete with them on their level and we should not want to be like them, we should want to be better than them.
Saffas relish contact , we would much rather run over or through you than around you. The fastest way from point A to point B is in a straight line. Super Rugby did more harm than good to our teams. Playing in the North will have us play more towards our strengths.
Ha, aye we are the Man City/Chelsea/Newcastle of the rugby world right enough.FalseBayFC wrote: ↑Fri Oct 15, 2021 11:04 am
The stadium will no doubt have a fair few Scottish scouts checking out the Saffer beef on offer. Chequebooks at the ready. What position are you short of? Can we interest you in a chunky frontrower, a linebreaking loose forward or maybe a oversized wing.
box kicks...??????average joe wrote: ↑Fri Oct 15, 2021 10:46 amWe have some skilled backs that can run around when the need arises. We also have big strong forwards that can bully teams in the set piece and milk penalties, win turn overs. It would be stupid not to use this and pick smaller more mobile forwards just so we can compete with the AB at their level. You cant beat them like that, they will out run and out skill you every day of the week and twice on Sundays.FalseBayFC wrote: ↑Fri Oct 15, 2021 8:52 amNonsense. We've won all our matches in the last two years by Cheslin Kolbe, Lukhanyo Am or Wllie running around people. Nobody is saying we should be AB clones. But the criticism of the Boks has been valid imo. 2009-2019 was the worst period in Springbok history results wise. Coincidentally it was also the period where the myth of Springboks DNA emerged.average joe wrote: ↑Fri Oct 15, 2021 8:10 am
The kiwis use the set piece as a base to set up their backs. They have a skilled mobile tight five that join the line on attack. The faster they can join the line the better. They are the best at what they do and this idea that we should be more like them is idiotic. This is why I have such an issue with people saying we should play more like them. We cant compete with them on their level and we should not want to be like them, we should want to be better than them.
Saffas relish contact , we would much rather run over or through you than around you. The fastest way from point A to point B is in a straight line. Super Rugby did more harm than good to our teams. Playing in the North will have us play more towards our strengths.
You’ve already kindly supplied us with two of them, but if you could step over here for a chat about this line breaking loosie pleaseTichtheid wrote: ↑Fri Oct 15, 2021 11:09 amHa, aye we are the Man City/Chelsea/Newcastle of the rugby world right enough.FalseBayFC wrote: ↑Fri Oct 15, 2021 11:04 am
The stadium will no doubt have a fair few Scottish scouts checking out the Saffer beef on offer. Chequebooks at the ready. What position are you short of? Can we interest you in a chunky frontrower, a linebreaking loose forward or maybe a oversized wing.
We've gone for a 6/2 split on the bench, that is probably our biggest pack available when injuries are taken into account.
Immelman has to up his game, he's not been much more than rank average so far
Rank average is being generous. He's doing well to keep his place in the starting lineup.Tichtheid wrote: ↑Fri Oct 15, 2021 11:09 amHa, aye we are the Man City/Chelsea/Newcastle of the rugby world right enough.FalseBayFC wrote: ↑Fri Oct 15, 2021 11:04 am
The stadium will no doubt have a fair few Scottish scouts checking out the Saffer beef on offer. Chequebooks at the ready. What position are you short of? Can we interest you in a chunky frontrower, a linebreaking loose forward or maybe a oversized wing.
We've gone for a 6/2 split on the bench, that is probably our biggest pack available when injuries are taken into account.
Immelman has to up his game, he's not been much more than rank average so far
