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Re: 2024/2025 Not Heineken Cup
Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2025 5:37 pm
by inactionman
JM2K6 wrote: Sun Jan 12, 2025 5:34 pm
Got a fairly low res stream but the commentators calling Max Ojomoh Ollie Lawrence is not a good look
I can't get sound on my stream, which on recent commentator showings is perhaps for the best
Re: 2024/2025 Not Heineken Cup
Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2025 5:39 pm
by JM2K6
inactionman wrote: Sun Jan 12, 2025 5:37 pm
JM2K6 wrote: Sun Jan 12, 2025 5:34 pm
Got a fairly low res stream but the commentators calling Max Ojomoh Ollie Lawrence is not a good look
I can't get sound on my stream, which on recent commentator showings is perhaps for the best
Robshaw just teed up Dallaglio to talk about the Bath forwards, so he immediately started describing what Finn Russell did
Re: 2024/2025 Not Heineken Cup
Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2025 5:41 pm
by Brazil
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sun Jan 12, 2025 2:57 pm
ASMO wrote: Sun Jan 12, 2025 2:57 pm
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sun Jan 12, 2025 2:53 pm
Raises an interesting speculation: which Sale turns out next week both in terms of squad and performance?
With nothing to play for, i wouldn't bet against it being an "inexperienced" side
Will make for an interesting atmosphere in the Braz household
If it's in Europe we won't be watching as we've finally reached the limit on paying to watch rugby, particularly a tournament where neither of our teams have any chance, and where the outcome is inevitably "moneybags french club Vs team with most of the Irish national side/the other french moneybags club".
On a personal level I'm not sure. I'd like both teams to explore their depth and use it to test younger players given this tournament is a bust. Equally they're both in need of finding form, so full strength sides before the enforced lay off during the 6N would also make sense.
Re: 2024/2025 Not Heineken Cup
Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2025 5:53 pm
by JM2K6
Lawrence having a crap game so far.
Re: 2024/2025 Not Heineken Cup
Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2025 6:01 pm
by JM2K6
Dallaglio blaming a 3 inch drop in height for a rising swinging arm tackle to the jaw
Re: 2024/2025 Not Heineken Cup
Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2025 6:01 pm
by sockwithaticket
Dallaglio - "I don't see any foul play here"
As they're replaying a shoulder going into Lawrence's jaw.

Re: 2024/2025 Not Heineken Cup
Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2025 6:03 pm
by JM2K6
sockwithaticket wrote: Sun Jan 12, 2025 6:01 pm
Dallaglio - "I don't see any foul play here"
As they're replaying a shoulder going into Lawrence's jaw.
He's an absolute fuckwit. He ended up saying there was mitigation because the attacker was rising(?!)
In reality, the tackler is high, hits upwards, and swings an arm and shoulder straight into the jaw. Absolutely no mitigation.
Re: 2024/2025 Not Heineken Cup
Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2025 6:03 pm
by inactionman
sockwithaticket wrote: Sun Jan 12, 2025 6:01 pm
Dallaglio - "I don't see any foul play here"
As they're replaying a shoulder going into Lawrence's jaw.
I'm watching on a stream that looks like minecraft, but I thought that was Ojomoh who got hit.
Re: 2024/2025 Not Heineken Cup
Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2025 6:04 pm
by sockwithaticket
While I agree with the decisions, we've seen plenty of similar or worse incidents mitigated down by gutless officials for the most spurious of reasons, so I can understand the player maybe feeling hard done by. This, however, should be the standard.
Dallaglio needs to shut up. Official's lives are not going to be made any easier if commentators constantly undermine them.
Re: 2024/2025 Not Heineken Cup
Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2025 6:04 pm
by JM2K6
"Asking a front row forward to change his body height in a split second is very difficult indeed"
but it's totally reasonable for the same player to attempt a huge hit in the same amount of time
Re: 2024/2025 Not Heineken Cup
Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2025 6:04 pm
by JM2K6
inactionman wrote: Sun Jan 12, 2025 6:03 pm
sockwithaticket wrote: Sun Jan 12, 2025 6:01 pm
Dallaglio - "I don't see any foul play here"
As they're replaying a shoulder going into Lawrence's jaw.
I'm watching on a stream that looks like minecraft, but I thought that was Ojomoh who got hit.
It was, but Dallaglio called him Lawrence again
Re: 2024/2025 Not Heineken Cup
Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2025 6:07 pm
by sockwithaticket
inactionman wrote: Sun Jan 12, 2025 6:03 pm
sockwithaticket wrote: Sun Jan 12, 2025 6:01 pm
Dallaglio - "I don't see any foul play here"
As they're replaying a shoulder going into Lawrence's jaw.
I'm watching on a stream that looks like minecraft, but I thought that was Ojomoh who got hit.
Mine must be worse than yours, that or I need an eye test. Thought I'd correctly read the shirt number as 13

Re: 2024/2025 Not Heineken Cup
Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2025 6:07 pm
by inactionman
Very nice. Lovely weight from Russell and Ojomoh has good hands.
Re: 2024/2025 Not Heineken Cup
Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2025 6:08 pm
by JM2K6
Ojomoh is having a cracking game so far for sure. Lovely stuff.
Been a while since we've seen Peak Russell so this is fun to watch.
Re: 2024/2025 Not Heineken Cup
Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2025 6:09 pm
by inactionman
sockwithaticket wrote: Sun Jan 12, 2025 6:07 pm
inactionman wrote: Sun Jan 12, 2025 6:03 pm
sockwithaticket wrote: Sun Jan 12, 2025 6:01 pm
Dallaglio - "I don't see any foul play here"
As they're replaying a shoulder going into Lawrence's jaw.
I'm watching on a stream that looks like minecraft, but I thought that was Ojomoh who got hit.
Mine must be worse than yours, that or I need an eye test. Thought I'd correctly read the shirt number as 13
Mine keep relaying a move from 10 minutes ago and confusing the hell out of me.
Is any one watching this on the actual TV?
Re: 2024/2025 Not Heineken Cup
Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2025 6:11 pm
by inactionman
God, I miss evening games at the rec.
Re: 2024/2025 Not Heineken Cup
Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2025 6:14 pm
by inactionman
Didn't his own player lift him?
Re: 2024/2025 Not Heineken Cup
Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2025 6:16 pm
by JM2K6
inactionman wrote: Sun Jan 12, 2025 6:14 pm
Didn't his own player lift him?
Barbeary did lift the leg tbf, but the other player being involved is why it was only a pen
Re: 2024/2025 Not Heineken Cup
Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2025 6:17 pm
by sockwithaticket
Despite the lineout cock up Clermont look omiously muscular in the tight. Really, really want to avoid giving them driving opportunities in the 22 if you're Bath.
Re: 2024/2025 Not Heineken Cup
Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2025 6:18 pm
by inactionman
In the words of racist Ron, looked to be good eyebrows from Ojomoh for that try
Re: 2024/2025 Not Heineken Cup
Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2025 6:21 pm
by JM2K6
Decent match. Clermont have a couple of absolute livewires making life difficult, but Bath comfortably the better team from the start.
Re: 2024/2025 Not Heineken Cup
Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2025 6:21 pm
by Kawazaki
JM2K6 wrote: Sun Jan 12, 2025 3:20 pm
ASMO wrote: Sun Jan 12, 2025 2:14 pm
Dombrandt having a mare, got melted by Isa in the tackle and just shit the bed on a certain try
It's irritating because he had already put Murley away for what should've been a cracking try and he clearly made the wrong call. Whatever about him getting mashed by Isa, who then did the same to Hammond, because that's life and it's going to happen when a guy who made his name melting people in the Rugby Championship is getting a head of steam.
I will say that "having a mare" doesn't look like that, though. Dombrandt made more carries (16) than anyone else , more tackles (25/2) than anyone else by a mile, more metres (62) than any other forward (and more than any Toulon player), and actually made an impact at the breakdown. Gave away some penalties and made a couple of errors, but that ledger is heavily weighted in his favour. Same with Murley - he should've nailed that first try but he was a big positive for Quins overall.
Baxter is getting flogged after Marler's retirement, Walker is getting flogged after Jibulu's injury, Lamositele is a waste of a signing, Launchbury & Hammond are a dreadful combo and miles off Lewies/Herbst/Lamb, Porter's form has dropped off, Care is a thousand years old, David lacks physicality and Green is just back from injury. Can't fault the attitude in most matches but there are structural problems in the squad at the moment.
Yeah, but you've got the best flyhalf since Barry John apparently so it seems odd that Quins keep losing.
Re: 2024/2025 Not Heineken Cup
Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2025 6:30 pm
by Kawazaki
sockwithaticket wrote: Sun Jan 12, 2025 6:04 pm
While I agree with the decisions, we've seen plenty of similar or worse incidents mitigated down by gutless officials for the most spurious of reasons, so I can understand the player maybe feeling hard done by. This, however, should be the standard.
Dallaglio needs to shut up. Official's lives are not going to be made any easier if commentators constantly undermine them.
Listen to people that have actually played the game ffs.
Re: 2024/2025 Not Heineken Cup
Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2025 6:37 pm
by JM2K6
Fucking hell you're weird
Re: 2024/2025 Not Heineken Cup
Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2025 6:38 pm
by sockwithaticket
Kawazaki wrote: Sun Jan 12, 2025 6:30 pm
sockwithaticket wrote: Sun Jan 12, 2025 6:04 pm
While I agree with the decisions, we've seen plenty of similar or worse incidents mitigated down by gutless officials for the most spurious of reasons, so I can understand the player maybe feeling hard done by. This, however, should be the standard.
Dallaglio needs to shut up. Official's lives are not going to be made any easier if commentators constantly undermine them.
Listen to people that have actually played the game ffs.
Dayglo's most recent game having been 18 years ago doesn't seem to have conferred upon him any great understanding seeing as how he frequently gets even basics wrong, let alone more complex judgement decisions like card situations.
Re: 2024/2025 Not Heineken Cup
Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2025 6:38 pm
by sockwithaticket
Let off for Bath that, very nearly a disaster start to the half.
Re: 2024/2025 Not Heineken Cup
Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2025 6:38 pm
by JM2K6
Cokanasiga reminding everyone that power and pace isn't enough if you also have the ball skills of a house brick. Lucky there was a knockon.
Re: 2024/2025 Not Heineken Cup
Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2025 6:39 pm
by Kawazaki
sockwithaticket wrote: Sun Jan 12, 2025 6:38 pm
Kawazaki wrote: Sun Jan 12, 2025 6:30 pm
sockwithaticket wrote: Sun Jan 12, 2025 6:04 pm
While I agree with the decisions, we've seen plenty of similar or worse incidents mitigated down by gutless officials for the most spurious of reasons, so I can understand the player maybe feeling hard done by. This, however, should be the standard.
Dallaglio needs to shut up. Official's lives are not going to be made any easier if commentators constantly undermine them.
Listen to people that have actually played the game ffs.
Dayglo's most recent game having been 18 years ago doesn't seem to have conferred upon him any great understanding seeing as how he frequently gets even basics wrong, let alone more complex judgement decisions like card situations.
Then listen to Jonathan Davies at halftime instead who said the same.
Re: 2024/2025 Not Heineken Cup
Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2025 6:42 pm
by inactionman
I'm waiting for Ugo's opinion before commenting.
Re: 2024/2025 Not Heineken Cup
Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2025 6:43 pm
by sockwithaticket
Kawazaki wrote: Sun Jan 12, 2025 6:39 pm
sockwithaticket wrote: Sun Jan 12, 2025 6:38 pm
Kawazaki wrote: Sun Jan 12, 2025 6:30 pm
Listen to people that have actually played the game ffs.
Dayglo's most recent game having been 18 years ago doesn't seem to have conferred upon him any great understanding seeing as how he frequently gets even basics wrong, let alone more complex judgement decisions like card situations.
Then listen to Jonathan Davies at halftime instead who said the same.
Went for a piss.Tbh being a current player doesn't mean much for understanding the law either. Have seen plenty interviewed down the years, they're often pretty clueless on the finer points or even things like qualification criteria in competitions of which they're partaking.
The ultimate test is whether the card is upheld or rescinded, but it's hard to see where anyone could poke a hole in Adamson's application of the framework. Nothing he said was incorrect.
Re: 2024/2025 Not Heineken Cup
Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2025 6:44 pm
by inactionman
deleted. double post after internet dropped
Re: 2024/2025 Not Heineken Cup
Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2025 6:45 pm
by Tichtheid
Is Cam Redpath injured again?
Re: 2024/2025 Not Heineken Cup
Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2025 6:46 pm
by Kawazaki
FFS.
Tell me about your own experience of playing rugby. Actually playing it.
People like you are destroying rugby. Clueless.
Re: 2024/2025 Not Heineken Cup
Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2025 6:49 pm
by sockwithaticket
Du Toit might be one of the best signings in Prem history.
Re: 2024/2025 Not Heineken Cup
Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2025 6:50 pm
by Torquemada 1420
fishfoodie wrote: Sun Jan 12, 2025 4:30 pm
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sun Jan 12, 2025 3:58 pm
fishfoodie wrote: Sun Jan 12, 2025 3:55 pm
How the fuck did Nowell get away with that ????
Lots of whining by the Irish players forever after but he clearly went for the ball with 2 hands.
Using two hands didn't make it a serious attempt to catch, if it did we'd never see deliberate knock-ons given, because all the players would just use two hands.
No. They wouldn't. Because it's entirely instinctive. Which is why players cannot help sticking the 1 hand out despite the inevitable sanction.
{EDIT} What JM said!
Re: 2024/2025 Not Heineken Cup
Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2025 6:52 pm
by inactionman
Tichtheid wrote: Sun Jan 12, 2025 6:45 pm
Is Cam Redpath injured again?
As far as I'm aware, yep, unfortunately. Not sure what issue is though,
Re: 2024/2025 Not Heineken Cup
Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2025 6:52 pm
by Torquemada 1420
JM2K6 wrote: Sun Jan 12, 2025 5:03 pm
Hastoy really has repeatedly shit the bed today. Kicking that ball away was a disastrous decision.
It's a central source of discussion amongst les Maritimes: their lack of a decent half back pairing is their biggest problem.
Re: 2024/2025 Not Heineken Cup
Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2025 6:53 pm
by JM2K6
sockwithaticket wrote: Sun Jan 12, 2025 6:49 pm
Du Toit might be one of the best signings in Prem history.
Not much harder in the game than stopping him a few yards out.
Cokanasiga again, sigh. Really frustrates me watching him. Not least because one of the Welsh PR trolls had his weaknesses pegged a few years back and that burns, y'know?
Re: 2024/2025 Not Heineken Cup
Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2025 6:57 pm
by inactionman
JM2K6 wrote: Sun Jan 12, 2025 6:53 pm
sockwithaticket wrote: Sun Jan 12, 2025 6:49 pm
Du Toit might be one of the best signings in Prem history.
Not much harder in the game than stopping him a few yards out.
Cokanasiga again, sigh. Really frustrates me watching him. Not least because one of the Welsh PR trolls had his weaknesses pegged a few years back and that burns, y'know?
It's his positional play that used to really be a worry, it's improved but still a weakness.
Re: 2024/2025 Not Heineken Cup
Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2025 6:57 pm
by Tichtheid
JM2K6 wrote: Sun Jan 12, 2025 6:53 pm
sockwithaticket wrote: Sun Jan 12, 2025 6:49 pm
Du Toit might be one of the best signings in Prem history.
Not much harder in the game than stopping him a few yards out.
That try just now was outstanding - that's how to keep the low leg drive going.