The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

[Tichtheid]

Strong side, I don't know Elias Caven, though..


btw, the Embra Gunners forum has risen from the ashes, in case anyone is interested, and you can actually post on it now.

[KingBlairhorn]

So - to the big game on Saturday

And the great news Rory is starting in the backrow - good to see him back

A win here ( and an Ulster loss against the Stormers ) would really cement Glasgow's place in the top 4

Glasgow Warriors

15 Josh McKay (25)

14 Cole Forbes (32)
13 Stafford McDowall (Captain) (49)
12 Sam Johnson (99)
11 Elias Caven (0)

10 Tom Jordan (15)
9 Jamie Dobie (44)

1 Nathan McBeth (16)
2 Johnny Matthews (40)
3 Lucio Sordoni (11)
4 Lewis Bean (31)
5 Scott Cummings (96)
6 Ally Miller (13)
7 Rory Darge (22)
8 Sione Vailanu (11)

Substitutes

16 Angus Fraser (1)
17 Allan Dell (0)
18 Simon Berghan (25)
19 JP du Preez (15)
20 Euan Ferrie (8)
21 Thomas Gordon (61)
22 Sean Kennedy (22)
23 Duncan Weir (132)

Elias Caven? He is a 26/27 YO English wing with zero professional starts to his name. He did well in the Super6 but so did plenty of younger players who are also SQ...? Lomond Macpherson, Logan Trotter, Rory McMichael and Aaron Tait all spring to mind, not to mention more established options like Robbie Nairn, Harvey Elms or Sam Pecqueur if you want a bit more experience.

[I like neeps]

So - to the big game on Saturday

And the great news Rory is starting in the backrow - good to see him back

A win here ( and an Ulster loss against the Stormers ) would really cement Glasgow's place in the top 4

Glasgow Warriors

15 Josh McKay (25)

14 Cole Forbes (32)
13 Stafford McDowall (Captain) (49)
12 Sam Johnson (99)
11 Elias Caven (0)

10 Tom Jordan (15)
9 Jamie Dobie (44)

1 Nathan McBeth (16)
2 Johnny Matthews (40)
3 Lucio Sordoni (11)
4 Lewis Bean (31)
5 Scott Cummings (96)
6 Ally Miller (13)
7 Rory Darge (22)
8 Sione Vailanu (11)

Substitutes

16 Angus Fraser (1)
17 Allan Dell (0)
18 Simon Berghan (25)
19 JP du Preez (15)
20 Euan Ferrie (8)
21 Thomas Gordon (61)
22 Sean Kennedy (22)
23 Duncan Weir (132)

Elias Caven? He is a 26/27 YO English wing with zero professional starts to his name. He did well in the Super6 but so did plenty of younger players who are also SQ...? Lomond Macpherson, Logan Trotter, Rory McMichael and Aaron Tait all spring to mind, not to mention more established options like Robbie Nairn, Harvey Elms or Sam Pecqueur if you want a bit more experience.

Trotter is at London Irish these days.

I think that Caven is the best of the super6 wingers mentioned but I have to agree. Why not ask Edinburgh for a wee loan of Jacob Henry who stood out to? A lot of options out there.

[westport]

Blair to stand down as Edinburgh coach at the end of the season.

Admittedly it's been a difficult second season but I think he's possibly too self-critical at times.

Odd if he's done this without knowing exactly where he's going. Options to me would be

1. Attack coach at a big club in France
2. Going somewhere as Toonie's attack coach
3. Scotland attack coach under Big Vern.

Are you just teasing us here? Or are there rumours?

It was reported in one of the French papers earlier in the week that Vern is being linked to Perpignan

[KingBlairhorn]

So - to the big game on Saturday

And the great news Rory is starting in the backrow - good to see him back

A win here ( and an Ulster loss against the Stormers ) would really cement Glasgow's place in the top 4

Glasgow Warriors

15 Josh McKay (25)

14 Cole Forbes (32)
13 Stafford McDowall (Captain) (49)
12 Sam Johnson (99)
11 Elias Caven (0)

10 Tom Jordan (15)
9 Jamie Dobie (44)

1 Nathan McBeth (16)
2 Johnny Matthews (40)
3 Lucio Sordoni (11)
4 Lewis Bean (31)
5 Scott Cummings (96)
6 Ally Miller (13)
7 Rory Darge (22)
8 Sione Vailanu (11)

Substitutes

16 Angus Fraser (1)
17 Allan Dell (0)
18 Simon Berghan (25)
19 JP du Preez (15)
20 Euan Ferrie (8)
21 Thomas Gordon (61)
22 Sean Kennedy (22)
23 Duncan Weir (132)

Elias Caven? He is a 26/27 YO English wing with zero professional starts to his name. He did well in the Super6 but so did plenty of younger players who are also SQ...? Lomond Macpherson, Logan Trotter, Rory McMichael and Aaron Tait all spring to mind, not to mention more established options like Robbie Nairn, Harvey Elms or Sam Pecqueur if you want a bit more experience.

Trotter is at London Irish these days.

I think that Caven is the best of the super6 wingers mentioned but I have to agree. Why not ask Edinburgh for a wee loan of Jacob Henry who stood out to? A lot of options out there.

Ah yeah, I'd forgotten he went down there. I also forgot about Ross McKnight who doesn't seem to be with the U20s this year. I think he is still young enough but I'm not sure.

[I like neeps]

Elias Caven? He is a 26/27 YO English wing with zero professional starts to his name. He did well in the Super6 but so did plenty of younger players who are also SQ...? Lomond Macpherson, Logan Trotter, Rory McMichael and Aaron Tait all spring to mind, not to mention more established options like Robbie Nairn, Harvey Elms or Sam Pecqueur if you want a bit more experience.

Trotter is at London Irish these days.

I think that Caven is the best of the super6 wingers mentioned but I have to agree. Why not ask Edinburgh for a wee loan of Jacob Henry who stood out to? A lot of options out there.

Ah yeah, I'd forgotten he went down there. I also forgot about Ross McKnight who doesn't seem to be with the U20s this year. I think he is still young enough but I'm not sure.

No McKnight is a year old for the u20s but yes not ideal he's not getting gametime and Caven is for McKnight's future at Glasgow.

[Dogbert]

To be frank , Franco's job is to win Rugby matches with Glasgow , and put the best team available out to meet those ends

He's doing a pretty good job so far , and he has been blending in some Scottish youngsters from the squad.

Looks like big Walter is out of Franco's plans though

IFWT

[Tichtheid]

Looks like big Walter is out of Franco's plans though

Is he fit?

There are not many who make a mug out of Darcy Graham, who is a very strong defender, but Big Walter ran over him and barely slowed down.

[weegie01]

Blair to stand down as Edinburgh coach at the end of the season.

Admittedly it's been a difficult second season but I think he's possibly too self-critical at times.

Really? That seems very odd to me. It hasn't been great recently but I don't think a sackable/walk away scenario.

Reads like he just didn't really enjoy the stresses and pressures of the job. He's been pretty open about how he doesn't love selection in interviews post matches etc.

I'm disappointed, I thought he was a very high potential coach.

He is on record that his intial reaction when offered the job was 'no way' becuse of the all consuming nature of the job. He was then talked into, and it looks like he feels his inital reaction was the correct one for him.

[Slick]

Didn’t realise the U20’s game is tonight

[Dogbert]

Looks like big Walter is out of Franco's plans though

Is he fit?

There are not many who make a mug out of Darcy Graham, who is a very strong defender, but Big Walter ran over him and barely slowed down.

It would appear so , not on the injured list

[Biffer]

Anyone else get an email about Scotland Season Pass renewal with the stuff about Project 24/25? Sounds like we're going to get screwed over.

[westport]

We were well and truly stuffed last night by the strength and depth of the French U20's.

They are using this 6N's to get ready for the World Championships in SA in the summer and so far have used 40 players, with over half of them having played in the T14 this season.

[Slick]

Anyone else get an email about Scotland Season Pass renewal with the stuff about Project 24/25? Sounds like we're going to get screwed over.

Got one about my debentures and season pass but didn’t mention anything about the Project - what is it?

[GrahamWa]

Project 24/25

As part of an ongoing evaluation of the supporter experience against the backdrop of increasing demand on our available seats, we will be spending this calendar year undertaking a full review of the seating manifest at BT Murrayfield.


As we enter the second decade of the Scotland Season Pass, it is important that we continue to provide the best availability for Scotland tickets whilst balancing the demands of the business. All aspects of the seating manifest will be considered with the intention of providing season passes, match packages, clubs, groups & school allocations, hospitality and commercial obligations and, importantly, satisfying the demand for accessible tickets.


The results of Project 24/25 will be known later in the year and any changes to the current Scotland Season Pass offering and any resulting impact (if applicable) to your current Season Pass seat(s) will be communicated in advance of the renewal period for Season 2024/25.

Automatic Renewal Suspended

Because of Project 24/25 and the prospect of implementing alternative method of payment / renewal options, we will not be operating our usual Automatic Renewal scheme at the end of next season. We will be sure to communicate further information when available, alongside any relevant changes.



Why is auto renewal being suspended?

Auto-renewal is being suspended as we know improvements are coming in the near future and very much hope to offer more options to our fans.



Will there be a Season Pass for Season 24/25?

Yes - the season pass has been extremely successful over the last 10 years and is a product we will continue to offer.

[Biffer]

Anyone else get an email about Scotland Season Pass renewal with the stuff about Project 24/25? Sounds like we're going to get screwed over.

Got one about my debentures and season pass but didn’t mention anything about the Project - what is it?

It’s at the bottom of the season pass email, text as posted above.

[Slick]

Anyone else get an email about Scotland Season Pass renewal with the stuff about Project 24/25? Sounds like we're going to get screwed over.

Got one about my debentures and season pass but didn’t mention anything about the Project - what is it?

It’s at the bottom of the season pass email, text as posted above.

At the moment are you guaranteed a season pass for next year if you have one this year?

Edit, I mean in previous years

[Slick]

Anyone else get an email about Scotland Season Pass renewal with the stuff about Project 24/25? Sounds like we're going to get screwed over.

Got one about my debentures and season pass but didn’t mention anything about the Project - what is it?

It’s at the bottom of the season pass email, text as posted above.

My email doesn’t mention it

[Biffer]

Got one about my debentures and season pass but didn’t mention anything about the Project - what is it?

It’s at the bottom of the season pass email, text as posted above.

At the moment are you guaranteed a season pass for next year if you have one this year?

Edit, I mean in previous years

Yes, and the same seats if you’re paying by direct debit

You maybe got a different mail due to the debentures. How long are left on debentures btw?

[Slick]

It’s at the bottom of the season pass email, text as posted above.

At the moment are you guaranteed a season pass for next year if you have one this year?

Edit, I mean in previous years

Yes, and the same seats if you’re paying by direct debit

You maybe got a different mail due to the debentures. How long are left on debentures btw?

About 20 years I think! I inherited them off my dad and they were 50 originally

[Achahoish]

So - to the big game on Saturday

And the great news Rory is starting in the backrow - good to see him back

A win here ( and an Ulster loss against the Stormers ) would really cement Glasgow's place in the top 4

Glasgow Warriors

15 Josh McKay (25)

14 Cole Forbes (32)
13 Stafford McDowall (Captain) (49)
12 Sam Johnson (99)
11 Elias Caven (0)

10 Tom Jordan (15)
9 Jamie Dobie (44)

1 Nathan McBeth (16)
2 Johnny Matthews (40)
3 Lucio Sordoni (11)
4 Lewis Bean (31)
5 Scott Cummings (96)
6 Ally Miller (13)
7 Rory Darge (22)
8 Sione Vailanu (11)

Substitutes

16 Angus Fraser (1)
17 Allan Dell (0)
18 Simon Berghan (25)
19 JP du Preez (15)
20 Euan Ferrie (8)
21 Thomas Gordon (61)
22 Sean Kennedy (22)
23 Duncan Weir (132)

Elias Caven? He is a 26/27 YO English wing with zero professional starts to his name. He did well in the Super6 but so did plenty of younger players who are also SQ...? Lomond Macpherson, Logan Trotter, Rory McMichael and Aaron Tait all spring to mind, not to mention more established options like Robbie Nairn, Harvey Elms or Sam Pecqueur if you want a bit more experience.

I was sorry to see Robbie Nairn leave the Warriors. I think he suffered under Rennie from lack of game time due to Rennie's "rent a mob" policy when the international players were away. Flockhart was another imho

[Biffer]

At the moment are you guaranteed a season pass for next year if you have one this year?

Edit, I mean in previous years

Yes, and the same seats if you’re paying by direct debit

You maybe got a different mail due to the debentures. How long are left on debentures btw?

About 20 years I think! I inherited them off my dad and they were 50 originally

Ah right. I had it in my head that some of them were 25 years

[Slick]

Anyone seen the Instagram post of the team coming out the the tunnel for training in Paris - Mish looks like he can barely walk!

[Jock42]

Anyone seen the Instagram post of the team coming out the the tunnel for training in Paris - Mish looks like he can barely walk!

FFS don't say that. I'm already unconvinced by his selection over Crosbie after last week.

[Tichtheid]

Anyone seen the Instagram post of the team coming out the the tunnel for training in Paris - Mish looks like he can barely walk!

There's an interview with him just come out on the SRU twitter feed, he seems chipper enough.

[Slick]

Think we probably have to assume Ireland just had a bit of an off day there, but plenty to interest the coaches

[charltom]

Think we probably have to assume Ireland just had a bit of an off day there, but plenty to interest the coaches

I'm just relieved that Italy didn't turn Ireland over. Their issues may be fixed less well as a result... maybe.

[Slick]

My confidence is draining away with every minute of this Wales v England game I watch

[Biffer]

My confidence is draining away with every minute of this Wales v England game I watch

Yeah, me too.

[Yr Alban]

My confidence is draining away with every minute of this Wales v England game I watch

To be fair, it was between two sides lacking in confidence, which is partly down to us. But we do need to bear in mind that we have probably played the two worst teams on current form.

[Slick]

My confidence is draining away with every minute of this Wales v England game I watch

To be fair, it was between two sides lacking in confidence, which is partly down to us. But we do need to bear in mind that we have probably played the two worst teams on current form.

Oh yeah, only being half serious. I never felt we would lose at Twickenham and we smashed the Welsh

[tc27]

My confidence is draining away with every minute of this Wales v England game I watch

Why? Scotland clearly better than both right now and when you factor in who was at home in the comparative fixtures it about stacks up

Ok fucking off from your thread now

[Slick]

My confidence is draining away with every minute of this Wales v England game I watch

Why? Scotland clearly better than both right now and when you factor in who was at home in the comparative fixtures it about stacks up

Ok fucking off from your thread now

Because they are both properly shite

[Slick]

I’m not taking any blame for those winding up the Inglanders.

Although “spiritual guardian” is sitting comfortably on my shoulders I must say

[charltom]

I do hope the team have not been reading the press the last couple of days.

[Blackmac]

Genuinely don't think I have been this uptight about a match in decades.

[Big D]

Both kicks offs, two players going needlessly high leading to a stupid red. We then kick the ball through a ruck back to them for a try.

Not sure we have the mentality to drag this out.

[KingBlairhorn]

Well that was a near stroke inducing half of rugby. I genuinely thought the ref was going to give Houas a yellow not a red, unreal that he had to be convinced.

Some tough calls in that half but 99% of the issues were down to brainlessness. They have to screw the nut and calm down. It’s going to be exceptionally tough in the second half because if France also screw the nut and calm down they more or less look like they can score when they want.

[Jock42]

Both kicks offs, two players going needlessly high leading to a stupid red. We then kick the ball through a ruck back to them for a try.

Not sure we have the mentality to drag this out.

French are rattled I reckon. If Scotland can compose themselves they can bring this back

[Big D]

Both kicks offs, two players going needlessly high leading to a stupid red. We then kick the ball through a ruck back to them for a try.

Not sure we have the mentality to drag this out.

French are rattled I reckon. If Scotland can compose themselves they can bring this back

When I say mentality it is more about being absolutely clinical rather than playing with the ball. Errors like breaking from mauls early, little knock ons, intercepts, etc.

Winning with 14 is doable but there is a ruthless streak needed that I'm not sure we have.