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petej wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 10:02 pm

I like neeps wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 9:24 pm https://unherd.com/2022/11/meet-britain ... new-right/

You have the boomers shooting up migrant centres and the youngsters go full American Incel. What exactly is the right in Britain up to these days?

The right in UK and USA are victims of their own electoral success and these are the by products.

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 10:19 pm Very amused that such a milquetoast critique of the British right has got the Unherd commentariat comparing the site to the Guardian and screaming about Marxism, leftist control of the education system, and open borders.

Absolutely psychotic.

petej wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 11:28 pm

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 10:19 pm Very amused that such a milquetoast critique of the British right has got the Unherd commentariat comparing the site to the Guardian and screaming about Marxism, leftist control of the education system, and open borders.

Absolutely psychotic.

I find it quite funny that this populist part of right wing loves to cast itself as unherd or guido fawkes like they are totally anti establishment and have no voice while being very loud gobshites.

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 10:19 pm Very amused that such a milquetoast critique of the British right has got the Unherd commentariat comparing the site to the Guardian and screaming about Marxism, leftist control of the education system, and open borders.

Absolutely psychotic.

C69 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 10, 2022 6:40 am The voice of Conservatism in the NHS votes for strike action.
But for not reaching the 50% threshold of the workforce many more work places would be allowed to strike.

Lord Wolfson: It’s definitely not the Brexit that I wanted

_Os_ wrote: ↑Thu Nov 10, 2022 2:23 am

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 10:19 pm Very amused that such a milquetoast critique of the British right has got the Unherd commentariat comparing the site to the Guardian and screaming about Marxism, leftist control of the education system, and open borders.

Absolutely psychotic.

Baker and Hannan both helped make the "Face Eating Leopard Party". Who would've thought that copying and pasting BNP rhetoric and policies for half a decade would create a fascist support base.

Baker has realised this is all a vote loser, and it'll become more of a losing proposition as time passes. If the Tory ceiling among people that aren't white remains about 20%-ish, then around 20 years from now they're going to be getting 8% from 40%-ish of the electorate, meaning they'll have to win about half the remaining votes to get into power. Which is another way of saying if nothing changes they'll go extinct. That's what Baker's new positioning is really about, he/they made a rod for their own backs by denouncing any recognition black people exist and are entitled to hold non-Tory opinions as "woke" (there's comments foaming at the mouth about "BLM Marxism").

Quite a few of their supporters are just crazy, people that variously want: American style Christian conservatism (anti-abortion/pro-death penalty), British Empire 2.0, CANZUK, mass deportations to Rwanda, the belief Brexit hasn't happened yet or if it has it's been betrayed, the end of globalisation, Thatcherism 2.0, UKIP 2.0. And this is all the part they say out loud.

Most of them will become disappointed in politics then give up on it and the rest will end up in an irrelevant BNP/UKIP type outfit. Baker and Hannan would be wise to speed the process up by telling them to fuck off, rather than taking 10+ years to say it. But they're not wise, so a 1980s Labour scenario where they're in opposition and in a civil war is possible.

SaintK wrote: ↑Fri Nov 11, 2022 10:25 am Never apologise and never admit you were wrong. Oh, and always blame somebody else!

GogLais wrote: ↑Fri Nov 11, 2022 12:30 pm

SaintK wrote: ↑Fri Nov 11, 2022 10:25 am Never apologise and never admit you were wrong. Oh, and always blame somebody else!

Indeed. He was always going to put the boot in after being trussed but he’s very mistaken if he thinks this makes him look better.

Senior civil servants at the Ministry of Justice were offered “respite or a route out” of the department when Dominic Raab was reappointed last month, amid concerns that some were still traumatised by his behaviour during a previous stint there.
Several sources told the Guardian that about 15 staff from the justice secretary’s private office were taken into a room where departmental chiefs acknowledged they may be anxious about his behaviour and gave them the option of moving roles.
“They’ll try to say he just drives the department very hard to get results. But he frequently belittled and undermined us. It wasn’t just that he was unprofessional, he was a bully. The atmosphere when he came back was terrible.”

Hal Jordan wrote: ↑Fri Nov 11, 2022 4:51 pm There seems to be a preponderance of Tory Ministers who think that acting hard and bullying staff will somehow make up for their stupidity and lack of charisma as a leader.

_Os_ wrote: ↑Tue Nov 08, 2022 3:32 pm ... What threatens to hurt the Tories next, is a party to the right of the Tories (Reform UK etc). It's the only part of the spectrum where the Tories haven't bled yet. I'm guessing a lot of UKIP/Brexit types that vote Tory didn't do so with the expectation the UK could reach its highest ever immigration levels, fight seemingly a losing battle against boat people, and have the most racially diverse government in its history. Quite a lot of recent polls have Reform UK on 5%-7%, and that's with the Tories getting back up to 25%-29%. Which ironically would start putting the Tories back to where they were before Cameron launched the EU referendum to destroy UKIP and consolidate the right wing vote.

_Os_ wrote: ↑Fri Nov 11, 2022 9:19 pm

_Os_ wrote: ↑Tue Nov 08, 2022 3:32 pm ... What threatens to hurt the Tories next, is a party to the right of the Tories (Reform UK etc). It's the only part of the spectrum where the Tories haven't bled yet. I'm guessing a lot of UKIP/Brexit types that vote Tory didn't do so with the expectation the UK could reach its highest ever immigration levels, fight seemingly a losing battle against boat people, and have the most racially diverse government in its history. Quite a lot of recent polls have Reform UK on 5%-7%, and that's with the Tories getting back up to 25%-29%. Which ironically would start putting the Tories back to where they were before Cameron launched the EU referendum to destroy UKIP and consolidate the right wing vote.

Boom! Reform UK now on 9%. Which shows how stupid it was of the Tories to try and appease people who believe impossible things and will never be happy.

petej wrote: ↑Fri Nov 11, 2022 9:29 pm Be interesting who shifts to rejoin the single market 1st.

I hope the libdems take the center right professional vote and keep the Tories pinned further right and fighting with reform.

Line6 HXFX wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 5:11 pm Mrs stopped being a registered nurse yesterday as it was way too much, and she was losing her mind.

She worked all through covid, on the frontline, she worked all through cutbacks, austerity, has 18 years experience but she has never experienced it this bad before.

So we gave up her pin yesterday.

Litterally couldn't cope with the short staffing, being exhausted and sense of dread going in.
Asking way too much of people.
When you are on anti anxiety medication, just to keep going in your job it isn't brilliant.
Born to be a nurse, my Mrs.
But this shit wasn't nursing.
Seems lots are doing it now too.

SaintK wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 5:18 pm This arsehole should have a 10 foot nose by now.
This one is just absurd

Dominic Raab has asked the prime minister to launch an investigation into two formal complaints about his behaviour.

The justice secretary and deputy PM said the complaints related to two previous stints as a cabinet minister.

He added he would "co-operate fully" with any inquiry.

tabascoboy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 10:24 am

Dominic Raab has asked the prime minister to launch an investigation into two formal complaints about his behaviour.

The justice secretary and deputy PM said the complaints related to two previous stints as a cabinet minister.

He added he would "co-operate fully" with any inquiry.

SaintK wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 10:50 am

tabascoboy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 10:24 am

Dominic Raab has asked the prime minister to launch an investigation into two formal complaints about his behaviour.

The justice secretary and deputy PM said the complaints related to two previous stints as a cabinet minister.

He added he would "co-operate fully" with any inquiry.

Just like London buses. One case of bullying by a cabinet minister comes along and another one follows almost immediately!!

SaintK wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 10:50 am
Just like London buses. One case of bullying by a cabinet minister comes along and another one follows almost immediately!!

Line6 HXFX wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 5:11 pm Mrs stopped being a registered nurse yesterday as it was way too much, and she was losing her mind.

She worked all through covid, on the frontline, she worked all through cutbacks, austerity, has 18 years experience but she has never experienced it this bad before.

So we gave up her pin yesterday.

Litterally couldn't cope with the short staffing, being exhausted and sense of dread going in.
Asking way too much of people.
When you are on anti anxiety medication, just to keep going in your job it isn't brilliant.
Born to be a nurse, my Mrs.
But this shit wasn't nursing.
Seems lots are doing it now too.

Tory councillor outed as leading UK fascist
By Dorset Eye -16th November 2022145 0
A HOPE not hate investigation reveals that Cllr Andy Weatherhead, who represents Hythe West on Kent County Council, was a senior officer for the openly fascist New British Union (NBU).

We can reveal that Cllr Weatherhead:

Wrote an antisemitic blog attacking the “Jewish-controlled media”
Helped to formulate the avowedly fascist and anti-democracy policies of the NBU
Attended a rally in support of the violent Golden Dawn movement

In 2019, Weatherhead changed his name from Andrew Beadle, under which he had taken a senior role in the NBU, an attempted revival of Oswald Mosley’s British Union of Fascists. Weatherhead went on to run for UKIP four times before eventually landing in the Conservative Party.

Nadine Dorries, the former culture secretary and one of Boris Johnson’s most loyal supporters, is due to publish a book next year with the title “The Political Assassination of Boris Johnson”, David Bond reports in the Evening Standard. Dorries said:
Events lately have been stranger than fiction. And I will be drawing on that rich source material. It’s a political whodunnit.

tabascoboy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 10:24 am

Dominic Raab has asked the prime minister to launch an investigation into two formal complaints about his behaviour.

The justice secretary and deputy PM said the complaints related to two previous stints as a cabinet minister.

He added he would "co-operate fully" with any inquiry.

tabascoboy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 2:35 pm But, but, but, he's changed! #irony

Tory councillor outed as leading UK fascist
By Dorset Eye -16th November 2022145 0
A HOPE not hate investigation reveals that Cllr Andy Weatherhead, who represents Hythe West on Kent County Council, was a senior officer for the openly fascist New British Union (NBU).

We can reveal that Cllr Weatherhead:

Wrote an antisemitic blog attacking the “Jewish-controlled media”
Helped to formulate the avowedly fascist and anti-democracy policies of the NBU
Attended a rally in support of the violent Golden Dawn movement

In 2019, Weatherhead changed his name from Andrew Beadle, under which he had taken a senior role in the NBU, an attempted revival of Oswald Mosley’s British Union of Fascists. Weatherhead went on to run for UKIP four times before eventually landing in the Conservative Party.

SaintK wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 3:20 pm She's got too much time on her hands.

Nadine Dorries, the former culture secretary and one of Boris Johnson’s most loyal supporters, is due to publish a book next year with the title “The Political Assassination of Boris Johnson”, David Bond reports in the Evening Standard. Dorries said:
Events lately have been stranger than fiction. And I will be drawing on that rich source material. It’s a political whodunnit.

tabascoboy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 6:29 pm

SaintK wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 3:20 pm She's got too much time on her hands.

Nadine Dorries, the former culture secretary and one of Boris Johnson’s most loyal supporters, is due to publish a book next year with the title “The Political Assassination of Boris Johnson”, David Bond reports in the Evening Standard. Dorries said:
Events lately have been stranger than fiction. And I will be drawing on that rich source material. It’s a political whodunnit.

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I still dream of him tenderly eating the soft, quivering mound of my love pudding

tabascoboy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 6:29 pm

SaintK wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 3:20 pm She's got too much time on her hands.

Nadine Dorries, the former culture secretary and one of Boris Johnson’s most loyal supporters, is due to publish a book next year with the title “The Political Assassination of Boris Johnson”, David Bond reports in the Evening Standard. Dorries said:
Events lately have been stranger than fiction. And I will be drawing on that rich source material. It’s a political whodunnit.

Exclusive leak of content from the opening chapter

Spoiler

Show

I still dream of him tenderly eating the soft, quivering mound of my love pudding