The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

[Yr Alban]

On BT Sport.

Cheers. May seek out somewhere with it on

If you happen to be anywhere near Porty let me know!

Cheers! Another time though. I am currently glued to a sofa in Dalry, and so knackered I don’t even know if I can face the pub!

[weegie01]

Anyone else on the 1100 from Waverley?

Really wish we'd taken the train after that drive. Still, Gretna Outlet on the way home tomorrow.

Seems to be a decent support down.

[Yr Alban]

WTF was that a minute ago? Looked like the Embra scrum munched Leicester and were penalised for it.

[robmatic]

WTF was that a minute ago? Looked like the Embra scrum munched Leicester and were penalised for it.

Yeah, Nel dominated his man.

[LenCohen]

Good interview with Diamond. A lot of interesting insights

Yeah, read some of the stuff he was saying today, I liked it

Apparently he has done the square root of hee haw thus far. Still, nice of him to volunteer, hell of a guy.

[TheNatalShark]

Utter chaos of a game. Not enough organisation from Edinburgh with the ball, both teams panicking

With this weather this would be prime pingball form 2016

[Yr Alban]

Utter chaos of a game. Not enough organisation from Edinburgh with the ball, both teams panicking

With this weather this would be prime pingball form 2016

If Embra could keep the head, they would be winning by a couple of scores right now. Leicester have offered little in attack, and our defence has been superb. But the old demons are out in force. Crap lineouts, some awful fielding of high balls, criminally poor ball retention in attacking positions. The ref has also ticked off all my pet hates - nonsensical scrum penalties, knock-ons when the ball didn’t touch the ground, and worst of all, blowing up for holding on almost as soon as the player hit the deck (and had, in fact, both released and tried to place the ball).

On the plus side, some proper pinball runs from Mish, and some great improvisation from Darcy (shame he can’t catch a cold today).

[robmatic]

Utter chaos of a game. Not enough organisation from Edinburgh with the ball, both teams panicking

With this weather this would be prime pingball form 2016

Possibly the worst ref for this kind of game as well.

[Big D]

That's a killer 3 errors.

Terrible charge down.

Duhans knock on.

Ritchie makes a pathetic attempt at a tackle really.

[Yr Alban]

That's a killer 3 errors.

Terrible charge down.

Duhans knock on.

Ritchie makes a pathetic attempt at a tackle really.

Terrible try to lose. No question. But Schoeman was impeded to create the gap.

[Yr Alban]

FFS people

[Yr Alban]

There it is again. Duhan clearly prevented from reaching the kick receiver by a Leicester player. Ignored.

[Big D]

I'm kinda done watching Pyrgos at 9.

[Yr Alban]

Embra have completely fecked this. Game was there for the taking, and they’re contriving to lose it.

[dpedin]

Very very poor for Edinburgh. Just awful as they have been all season. Leicester just as bad but less mistakes. Poor game and poor teams.

[fishfoodie]

There it is again. Duhan clearly prevented from reaching the kick receiver by a Leicester player. Ignored.

I know none of us like it, but this is why players throw up their hands, or drop to the floor,or just bellyache to the sky; it's often the only way the AR or TMO will have a look, & see the offense.

It's not the ARs fault either, they are often watching to see where the ball lands, & the ref is always facing the wrong way.

[TheNatalShark]

Commentators trying to big up Leicester

Really, really poor game.

Lot to be said about a lot of players, but by heavens when it isn't working for Mata not a lot being offered that Crosbie and others can

[charltom]

That was a really rubbish match to attend. Thank goodness it was only an hour up the road.

Raynal did seem to be rather readier to penalise Edin than Tigers, but what a comedy of errors the lads in orange offered.

Either Mark Bennet needs to get a lot better at catching the ball one foot off the ground, or Blair Kinghorn needs to stop passing it to that height. That happened a few times.

You could see in the warm-up that Darcy still wasn't as sharp as he's going to need to be.

The number of handling errors on both sides was crazy.

It was good to see a bit of Mish pinballing again, but I thought Crosbie looked good when he came on with his extra directness

Oh well. At least the weans got to experience another match in further RWC preparation. They knew their mission was to cheer for the team in orange... but unfortunately Tigers have cute mascots, so guess who they shouted for...!

[weegie01]

Ah well, that was poor.

Leicester least poor of two poor teams.

[dpedin]

Embra skill level and mentality awful. They seemed scared to try things and looked very sluggish all round. Leicester are equally awful but I think that was as good as it gets from them and if we played to our capability would have come away with a win. However Leicester made less mistakes than us and that was the deciding factor. The squad looks like they need some leadership and direction and a new coach could make a huge difference if the right man is appointed. Perhaps we could steal Franco from along the M8, he would make this squad sing!

[westport]

What a truly awful game Leicester being slightly less so. Edinburgh never looked as if they were going to score a try.

[KingBlairhorn]

Chalk and cheese watching Glasgow rather than Edinburgh. 11 tries is very good, even against the Dragons. Conceding 30+ points not so good but it kind of feels like nit picking to be honest.

[SomersetJock]

We need to find a way to clone Franco Smith. The improvement with these Glasgow players this season is ridiculous !

[Slick]

We need to find a way to clone Franco Smith. The improvement with these Glasgow players this season is ridiculous !

Healy is going to make a massive difference next year

[SomersetJock]

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We need to find a way to clone Franco Smith. The improvement with these Glasgow players this season is ridiculous !

Healy is going to make a massive difference next year
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I’m primarily a Glasgow fan but watch most of the Edinburgh games, watching them right now is incredibly frustrating, it’s very much like watching Glasgow under Wilson. Hopefully a proper 10 next season will sort things out. I don’t understand why the SRU didn’t put Toony in to help Mike Blair out from now until the end of the season. He can get those players performing and it would have saved the Diamond money.

[I like neeps]

We need to find a way to clone Franco Smith. The improvement with these Glasgow players this season is ridiculous !

Healy is going to make a massive difference next year

I don't think he's shown anything at Munster, a club in desperate need of a turnaround, to suggest he's going to be the man to succeed in leading a turnaround of Edinburgh. Munster are not very good right now and he's not been getting in the team. There's really no guarantees he's going to be good. I hope so, but we're signing him because he's an option for Scotland first and fly half second. So I'm nervous as it's not the best process of signing players.

Edinburgh need to start phasing out a number of players. And the squad is poorly balanced, world class back three + Kinghorn in reserve who will all be on great money and then pretty thin in the centres, awful at 9, backrow there's some good, lock eh then front row there's Schoeman and what else.

What a win for Glasgow, Dragons suck and with 14 is what it is but they absolutely blew them away. Wasn't even kind of close. I think the last two weeks Miotti is showing well.

[Slick]

We need to find a way to clone Franco Smith. The improvement with these Glasgow players this season is ridiculous !

Healy is going to make a massive difference next year

I don't think he's shown anything at Munster, a club in desperate need of a turnaround, to suggest he's going to be the man to succeed in leading a turnaround of Edinburgh. Munster are not very good right now and he's not been getting in the team. There's really no guarantees he's going to be good. I hope so, but we're signing him because he's an option for Scotland first and fly half second. So I'm nervous as it's not the best process of signing players.

Edinburgh need to start phasing out a number of players. And the squad is poorly balanced, world class back three + Kinghorn in reserve who will all be on great money and then pretty thin in the centres, awful at 9, backrow there's some good, lock eh then front row there's Schoeman and what else.

What a win for Glasgow, Dragons suck and with 14 is what it is but they absolutely blew them away. Wasn't even kind of close. I think the last two weeks Miotti is showing well.

Honestly, IMO, they desperately need a 10, any 10, and have done for at least 2 years now. This isn’t an anti BK opinion, it’s just so fucking obvious.

Obviously this isn’t the only reason they are underperforming but it is a massive hole that needs filling.

Fed up of being nice about it.

[Yr Alban]

We need to find a way to clone Franco Smith. The improvement with these Glasgow players this season is ridiculous !

Healy is going to make a massive difference next year

I don't think he's shown anything at Munster, a club in desperate need of a turnaround, to suggest he's going to be the man to succeed in leading a turnaround of Edinburgh. Munster are not very good right now and he's not been getting in the team. There's really no guarantees he's going to be good. I hope so, but we're signing him because he's an option for Scotland first and fly half second. So I'm nervous as it's not the best process of signing players.

Edinburgh need to start phasing out a number of players. And the squad is poorly balanced, world class back three + Kinghorn in reserve who will all be on great money and then pretty thin in the centres, awful at 9, backrow there's some good, lock eh then front row there's Schoeman and what else.

What a win for Glasgow, Dragons suck and with 14 is what it is but they absolutely blew them away. Wasn't even kind of close. I think the last two weeks Miotti is showing well.

The fact that he hasn’t been getting in a poorly performing team doesn’t necessarily mean he isn’t any good. It could also mean the selectors are daft. We have seen this happen in Scotland - Ireland aren’t immune.

[dpedin]

Healy is going to make a massive difference next year

I don't think he's shown anything at Munster, a club in desperate need of a turnaround, to suggest he's going to be the man to succeed in leading a turnaround of Edinburgh. Munster are not very good right now and he's not been getting in the team. There's really no guarantees he's going to be good. I hope so, but we're signing him because he's an option for Scotland first and fly half second. So I'm nervous as it's not the best process of signing players.

Edinburgh need to start phasing out a number of players. And the squad is poorly balanced, world class back three + Kinghorn in reserve who will all be on great money and then pretty thin in the centres, awful at 9, backrow there's some good, lock eh then front row there's Schoeman and what else.

What a win for Glasgow, Dragons suck and with 14 is what it is but they absolutely blew them away. Wasn't even kind of close. I think the last two weeks Miotti is showing well.

The fact that he hasn’t been getting in a poorly performing team doesn’t necessarily mean he isn’t any good. It could also mean the selectors are daft. We have seen this happen in Scotland - Ireland aren’t immune.

This! McDowell was almost let go by the Weegies last season before Franco arrived. VdM was written off by Montpellier as a permacrock. Boff struggled to get game time for Racing. Dont underestimate the impact a good or bad coach can have on individual players plus National team will push selections in Ireland as they do in Scotland. Heally is a good player.

[robmatic]

Healy is going to make a massive difference next year

I don't think he's shown anything at Munster, a club in desperate need of a turnaround, to suggest he's going to be the man to succeed in leading a turnaround of Edinburgh. Munster are not very good right now and he's not been getting in the team. There's really no guarantees he's going to be good. I hope so, but we're signing him because he's an option for Scotland first and fly half second. So I'm nervous as it's not the best process of signing players.

Edinburgh need to start phasing out a number of players. And the squad is poorly balanced, world class back three + Kinghorn in reserve who will all be on great money and then pretty thin in the centres, awful at 9, backrow there's some good, lock eh then front row there's Schoeman and what else.

What a win for Glasgow, Dragons suck and with 14 is what it is but they absolutely blew them away. Wasn't even kind of close. I think the last two weeks Miotti is showing well.

Honestly, IMO, they desperately need a 10, any 10, and have done for at least 2 years now. This isn’t an anti BK opinion, it’s just so fucking obvious.

Obviously this isn’t the only reason they are underperforming but it is a massive hole that needs filling.

Fed up of being nice about it.

For a team with pretensions of progressing in Europe and challenging in the URC, it's pretty poor that we didn't even have a plan B at 10 on Friday night. Regardless of opinions about BK, we didn't even have the option of changing things with 20 minutes to go, which should always be a possibility depending on the conditions and how the game is going. I have a lot of time for Kinghorn but a pissing wet night isn't ideal for his strengths even when the team is going well.

Savala was unavailable but hasn't been great this season anyway (and isn't a game managing 10). I know you don't rate Jaco, but he is nowhere near the squad for whatever reason anyway.

[Slick]

I don't think he's shown anything at Munster, a club in desperate need of a turnaround, to suggest he's going to be the man to succeed in leading a turnaround of Edinburgh. Munster are not very good right now and he's not been getting in the team. There's really no guarantees he's going to be good. I hope so, but we're signing him because he's an option for Scotland first and fly half second. So I'm nervous as it's not the best process of signing players.

Edinburgh need to start phasing out a number of players. And the squad is poorly balanced, world class back three + Kinghorn in reserve who will all be on great money and then pretty thin in the centres, awful at 9, backrow there's some good, lock eh then front row there's Schoeman and what else.

What a win for Glasgow, Dragons suck and with 14 is what it is but they absolutely blew them away. Wasn't even kind of close. I think the last two weeks Miotti is showing well.

Honestly, IMO, they desperately need a 10, any 10, and have done for at least 2 years now. This isn’t an anti BK opinion, it’s just so fucking obvious.

Obviously this isn’t the only reason they are underperforming but it is a massive hole that needs filling.

Fed up of being nice about it.

For a team with pretensions of progressing in Europe and challenging in the URC, it's pretty poor that we didn't even have a plan B at 10 on Friday night. Regardless of opinions about BK, we didn't even have the option of changing things with 20 minutes to go, which should always be a possibility depending on the conditions and how the game is going. I have a lot of time for Kinghorn but a pissing wet night isn't ideal for his strengths even when the team is going well.

Savala was unavailable but hasn't been great this season anyway (and isn't a game managing 10). I know you don't rate Jaco, but he is nowhere near the squad for whatever reason anyway.

Jaco is a really strange one. He was very average when he first came but really started coming onto his game just as the BK10 thing started. I thought he was really unlucky to get shunted at that point. In saying that, successive coaches obviously haven’t trusted him at all.

[westport]

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[I like neeps]

Healy is going to make a massive difference next year

I don't think he's shown anything at Munster, a club in desperate need of a turnaround, to suggest he's going to be the man to succeed in leading a turnaround of Edinburgh. Munster are not very good right now and he's not been getting in the team. There's really no guarantees he's going to be good. I hope so, but we're signing him because he's an option for Scotland first and fly half second. So I'm nervous as it's not the best process of signing players.

Edinburgh need to start phasing out a number of players. And the squad is poorly balanced, world class back three + Kinghorn in reserve who will all be on great money and then pretty thin in the centres, awful at 9, backrow there's some good, lock eh then front row there's Schoeman and what else.

What a win for Glasgow, Dragons suck and with 14 is what it is but they absolutely blew them away. Wasn't even kind of close. I think the last two weeks Miotti is showing well.

The fact that he hasn’t been getting in a poorly performing team doesn’t necessarily mean he isn’t any good. It could also mean the selectors are daft. We have seen this happen in Scotland - Ireland aren’t immune.

No, but it's not a good sign that he's very much third choice now. And yes there's a bit off he's a young prospect, Munster now have a more exciting young prospect they're giving the gametime too.

Which currently stem from inexperienced coaching, big names in the pack really struggling, and last year the creativity came from Mike Blair and Blair Kinghorn being able to rip apart defences and then get the lethal Bennett and back three involved but that's no longer happening as it's been worked out.

But against Leicester Healy wouldn't have made a difference. When Edinburgh kicked to the corner in Leicester's 22 the guys making an arse of it were McInally and Gilchrist. Neither of whom are going anywhere.

[I like neeps]

I don't think he's shown anything at Munster, a club in desperate need of a turnaround, to suggest he's going to be the man to succeed in leading a turnaround of Edinburgh. Munster are not very good right now and he's not been getting in the team. There's really no guarantees he's going to be good. I hope so, but we're signing him because he's an option for Scotland first and fly half second. So I'm nervous as it's not the best process of signing players.

Edinburgh need to start phasing out a number of players. And the squad is poorly balanced, world class back three + Kinghorn in reserve who will all be on great money and then pretty thin in the centres, awful at 9, backrow there's some good, lock eh then front row there's Schoeman and what else.

What a win for Glasgow, Dragons suck and with 14 is what it is but they absolutely blew them away. Wasn't even kind of close. I think the last two weeks Miotti is showing well.

The fact that he hasn’t been getting in a poorly performing team doesn’t necessarily mean he isn’t any good. It could also mean the selectors are daft. We have seen this happen in Scotland - Ireland aren’t immune.

This! McDowell was almost let go by the Weegies last season before Franco arrived. VdM was written off by Montpellier as a permacrock. Boff struggled to get game time for Racing. Dont underestimate the impact a good or bad coach can have on individual players plus National team will push selections in Ireland as they do in Scotland. Heally is a good player.

McDowall was always highly rated and is still a back up, just a better performing one - who at Glasgow isn't performing much better? I guess the best hope Munster and Healy have is van Graan and Rowntree are Wilson incompetent which is possible....

Bofelli was a short term deal at racing after the jaguars folded and was Argentina's first choice and VdM had a hip injury that could have forced a retirement.. hardly underrated.

[KingBlairhorn]

The fact that he hasn’t been getting in a poorly performing team doesn’t necessarily mean he isn’t any good. It could also mean the selectors are daft. We have seen this happen in Scotland - Ireland aren’t immune.

This! McDowell was almost let go by the Weegies last season before Franco arrived. VdM was written off by Montpellier as a permacrock. Boff struggled to get game time for Racing. Dont underestimate the impact a good or bad coach can have on individual players plus National team will push selections in Ireland as they do in Scotland. Heally is a good player.

McDowall was always highly rated and is still a back up, just a better performing one

McDowall was not offered a new contract and was contemplating retirement - he was out in the market looking for offers and there were none. There was an interview last week on it. He was very much not highly rated and had been assessed as no longer required.

[Yr Alban]

I don't think he's shown anything at Munster, a club in desperate need of a turnaround, to suggest he's going to be the man to succeed in leading a turnaround of Edinburgh. Munster are not very good right now and he's not been getting in the team. There's really no guarantees he's going to be good. I hope so, but we're signing him because he's an option for Scotland first and fly half second. So I'm nervous as it's not the best process of signing players.

Edinburgh need to start phasing out a number of players. And the squad is poorly balanced, world class back three + Kinghorn in reserve who will all be on great money and then pretty thin in the centres, awful at 9, backrow there's some good, lock eh then front row there's Schoeman and what else.

What a win for Glasgow, Dragons suck and with 14 is what it is but they absolutely blew them away. Wasn't even kind of close. I think the last two weeks Miotti is showing well.

The fact that he hasn’t been getting in a poorly performing team doesn’t necessarily mean he isn’t any good. It could also mean the selectors are daft. We have seen this happen in Scotland - Ireland aren’t immune.

No, but it's not a good sign that he's very much third choice now. And yes there's a bit off he's a young prospect, Munster now have a more exciting young prospect they're giving the gametime too.

Which currently stem from inexperienced coaching, big names in the pack really struggling, and last year the creativity came from Mike Blair and Blair Kinghorn being able to rip apart defences and then get the lethal Bennett and back three involved but that's no longer happening as it's been worked out.

But against Leicester Healy wouldn't have made a difference. When Edinburgh kicked to the corner in Leicester's 22 the guys making an arse of it were McInally and Gilchrist. Neither of whom are going anywhere.

Munster have written him off because he is jumping ship to Edinburgh and Scotland. The minute he made that decision he was never getting any game time.

[I like neeps]

The fact that he hasn’t been getting in a poorly performing team doesn’t necessarily mean he isn’t any good. It could also mean the selectors are daft. We have seen this happen in Scotland - Ireland aren’t immune.

No, but it's not a good sign that he's very much third choice now. And yes there's a bit off he's a young prospect, Munster now have a more exciting young prospect they're giving the gametime too.

Which currently stem from inexperienced coaching, big names in the pack really struggling, and last year the creativity came from Mike Blair and Blair Kinghorn being able to rip apart defences and then get the lethal Bennett and back three involved but that's no longer happening as it's been worked out.

But against Leicester Healy wouldn't have made a difference. When Edinburgh kicked to the corner in Leicester's 22 the guys making an arse of it were McInally and Gilchrist. Neither of whom are going anywhere.

Munster have written him off because he is jumping ship to Edinburgh and Scotland. The minute he made that decision he was never getting any game time.

Hmm Carberry has been first choice when fit for Munster this season and Crowley is the coming man getting the minutes.

Healy has made the fewest appearances of the three for Munster. Slight caveat in that Carberry has played a bit at 15 and Crowley a bit at 12 but it's clear who the top dogs are.

It was also widely reported Healy turned down Scotland in 2020 for an Ireland cap, and in the Irish press he's down the pecking order so why not come to Scotland. Not that the Irish press are clear eyed but the numbers back it up.

Hopefully he's good! I'm an Edinburgh fan nominally. But I'm not too keen on Munster's third choice being the chosen one to turn the Edinburgh ship around. The problems are far deeper than 10.

[Biffer]

Townsend and Dodson meeting this week

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/65176554

[westport]

Edinburgh Rugby today completed the signing of Scotland international and English Premiership winning scrum-half Scott Steele who will join the capital club on a one-year deal this summer.

[KingBlairhorn]

Edinburgh Rugby today completed the signing of Scotland international and English Premiership winning scrum-half Scott Steele who will join the capital club on a one-year deal this summer.

I'm sure he'll be fine but the definition of a journeyman pro - I can't see him being a significant step up on anything Edinburgh have had in the last few years. As far as I can see he has started 1 Prem game since 2019/20 with all other appearances from the bench.

Just very very meh.