Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread
Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2023 5:13 pm
Cheers! Another time though. I am currently glued to a sofa in Dalry, and so knackered I don’t even know if I can face the pub!
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Cheers! Another time though. I am currently glued to a sofa in Dalry, and so knackered I don’t even know if I can face the pub!
Apparently he has done the square root of hee haw thus far. Still, nice of him to volunteer, hell of a guy.
If Embra could keep the head, they would be winning by a couple of scores right now. Leicester have offered little in attack, and our defence has been superb. But the old demons are out in force. Crap lineouts, some awful fielding of high balls, criminally poor ball retention in attacking positions. The ref has also ticked off all my pet hates - nonsensical scrum penalties, knock-ons when the ball didn’t touch the ground, and worst of all, blowing up for holding on almost as soon as the player hit the deck (and had, in fact, both released and tried to place the ball).TheNatalShark wrote: ↑Fri Mar 31, 2023 7:37 pm Utter chaos of a game. Not enough organisation from Edinburgh with the ball, both teams panicking
With this weather this would be prime pingball form 2016
Possibly the worst ref for this kind of game as well.TheNatalShark wrote: ↑Fri Mar 31, 2023 7:37 pm Utter chaos of a game. Not enough organisation from Edinburgh with the ball, both teams panicking
With this weather this would be prime pingball form 2016
I know none of us like it, but this is why players throw up their hands, or drop to the floor,or just bellyache to the sky; it's often the only way the AR or TMO will have a look, & see the offense.
Healy is going to make a massive difference next yearSomersetJock wrote: ↑Sat Apr 01, 2023 6:37 pm We need to find a way to clone Franco Smith. The improvement with these Glasgow players this season is ridiculous !
Healy is going to make a massive difference next year
I don't think he's shown anything at Munster, a club in desperate need of a turnaround, to suggest he's going to be the man to succeed in leading a turnaround of Edinburgh. Munster are not very good right now and he's not been getting in the team. There's really no guarantees he's going to be good. I hope so, but we're signing him because he's an option for Scotland first and fly half second. So I'm nervous as it's not the best process of signing players.Slick wrote: ↑Sat Apr 01, 2023 7:01 pmHealy is going to make a massive difference next yearSomersetJock wrote: ↑Sat Apr 01, 2023 6:37 pm We need to find a way to clone Franco Smith. The improvement with these Glasgow players this season is ridiculous !
Honestly, IMO, they desperately need a 10, any 10, and have done for at least 2 years now. This isn’t an anti BK opinion, it’s just so fucking obvious.I like neeps wrote: ↑Sat Apr 01, 2023 7:27 pmI don't think he's shown anything at Munster, a club in desperate need of a turnaround, to suggest he's going to be the man to succeed in leading a turnaround of Edinburgh. Munster are not very good right now and he's not been getting in the team. There's really no guarantees he's going to be good. I hope so, but we're signing him because he's an option for Scotland first and fly half second. So I'm nervous as it's not the best process of signing players.Slick wrote: ↑Sat Apr 01, 2023 7:01 pmHealy is going to make a massive difference next yearSomersetJock wrote: ↑Sat Apr 01, 2023 6:37 pm We need to find a way to clone Franco Smith. The improvement with these Glasgow players this season is ridiculous !
Edinburgh need to start phasing out a number of players. And the squad is poorly balanced, world class back three + Kinghorn in reserve who will all be on great money and then pretty thin in the centres, awful at 9, backrow there's some good, lock eh then front row there's Schoeman and what else.
What a win for Glasgow, Dragons suck and with 14 is what it is but they absolutely blew them away. Wasn't even kind of close. I think the last two weeks Miotti is showing well.
The fact that he hasn’t been getting in a poorly performing team doesn’t necessarily mean he isn’t any good. It could also mean the selectors are daft. We have seen this happen in Scotland - Ireland aren’t immune.I like neeps wrote: ↑Sat Apr 01, 2023 7:27 pmI don't think he's shown anything at Munster, a club in desperate need of a turnaround, to suggest he's going to be the man to succeed in leading a turnaround of Edinburgh. Munster are not very good right now and he's not been getting in the team. There's really no guarantees he's going to be good. I hope so, but we're signing him because he's an option for Scotland first and fly half second. So I'm nervous as it's not the best process of signing players.Slick wrote: ↑Sat Apr 01, 2023 7:01 pmHealy is going to make a massive difference next yearSomersetJock wrote: ↑Sat Apr 01, 2023 6:37 pm We need to find a way to clone Franco Smith. The improvement with these Glasgow players this season is ridiculous !
Edinburgh need to start phasing out a number of players. And the squad is poorly balanced, world class back three + Kinghorn in reserve who will all be on great money and then pretty thin in the centres, awful at 9, backrow there's some good, lock eh then front row there's Schoeman and what else.
What a win for Glasgow, Dragons suck and with 14 is what it is but they absolutely blew them away. Wasn't even kind of close. I think the last two weeks Miotti is showing well.
This! McDowell was almost let go by the Weegies last season before Franco arrived. VdM was written off by Montpellier as a permacrock. Boff struggled to get game time for Racing. Dont underestimate the impact a good or bad coach can have on individual players plus National team will push selections in Ireland as they do in Scotland. Heally is a good player.Yr Alban wrote: ↑Sat Apr 01, 2023 8:53 pmThe fact that he hasn’t been getting in a poorly performing team doesn’t necessarily mean he isn’t any good. It could also mean the selectors are daft. We have seen this happen in Scotland - Ireland aren’t immune.I like neeps wrote: ↑Sat Apr 01, 2023 7:27 pmI don't think he's shown anything at Munster, a club in desperate need of a turnaround, to suggest he's going to be the man to succeed in leading a turnaround of Edinburgh. Munster are not very good right now and he's not been getting in the team. There's really no guarantees he's going to be good. I hope so, but we're signing him because he's an option for Scotland first and fly half second. So I'm nervous as it's not the best process of signing players.
Edinburgh need to start phasing out a number of players. And the squad is poorly balanced, world class back three + Kinghorn in reserve who will all be on great money and then pretty thin in the centres, awful at 9, backrow there's some good, lock eh then front row there's Schoeman and what else.
What a win for Glasgow, Dragons suck and with 14 is what it is but they absolutely blew them away. Wasn't even kind of close. I think the last two weeks Miotti is showing well.
For a team with pretensions of progressing in Europe and challenging in the URC, it's pretty poor that we didn't even have a plan B at 10 on Friday night. Regardless of opinions about BK, we didn't even have the option of changing things with 20 minutes to go, which should always be a possibility depending on the conditions and how the game is going. I have a lot of time for Kinghorn but a pissing wet night isn't ideal for his strengths even when the team is going well.Slick wrote: ↑Sat Apr 01, 2023 7:31 pmHonestly, IMO, they desperately need a 10, any 10, and have done for at least 2 years now. This isn’t an anti BK opinion, it’s just so fucking obvious.I like neeps wrote: ↑Sat Apr 01, 2023 7:27 pmI don't think he's shown anything at Munster, a club in desperate need of a turnaround, to suggest he's going to be the man to succeed in leading a turnaround of Edinburgh. Munster are not very good right now and he's not been getting in the team. There's really no guarantees he's going to be good. I hope so, but we're signing him because he's an option for Scotland first and fly half second. So I'm nervous as it's not the best process of signing players.
Edinburgh need to start phasing out a number of players. And the squad is poorly balanced, world class back three + Kinghorn in reserve who will all be on great money and then pretty thin in the centres, awful at 9, backrow there's some good, lock eh then front row there's Schoeman and what else.
What a win for Glasgow, Dragons suck and with 14 is what it is but they absolutely blew them away. Wasn't even kind of close. I think the last two weeks Miotti is showing well.
Obviously this isn’t the only reason they are underperforming but it is a massive hole that needs filling.
Fed up of being nice about it.
Jaco is a really strange one. He was very average when he first came but really started coming onto his game just as the BK10 thing started. I thought he was really unlucky to get shunted at that point. In saying that, successive coaches obviously haven’t trusted him at all.robmatic wrote: ↑Sun Apr 02, 2023 11:20 amFor a team with pretensions of progressing in Europe and challenging in the URC, it's pretty poor that we didn't even have a plan B at 10 on Friday night. Regardless of opinions about BK, we didn't even have the option of changing things with 20 minutes to go, which should always be a possibility depending on the conditions and how the game is going. I have a lot of time for Kinghorn but a pissing wet night isn't ideal for his strengths even when the team is going well.Slick wrote: ↑Sat Apr 01, 2023 7:31 pmHonestly, IMO, they desperately need a 10, any 10, and have done for at least 2 years now. This isn’t an anti BK opinion, it’s just so fucking obvious.I like neeps wrote: ↑Sat Apr 01, 2023 7:27 pm
I don't think he's shown anything at Munster, a club in desperate need of a turnaround, to suggest he's going to be the man to succeed in leading a turnaround of Edinburgh. Munster are not very good right now and he's not been getting in the team. There's really no guarantees he's going to be good. I hope so, but we're signing him because he's an option for Scotland first and fly half second. So I'm nervous as it's not the best process of signing players.
Edinburgh need to start phasing out a number of players. And the squad is poorly balanced, world class back three + Kinghorn in reserve who will all be on great money and then pretty thin in the centres, awful at 9, backrow there's some good, lock eh then front row there's Schoeman and what else.
What a win for Glasgow, Dragons suck and with 14 is what it is but they absolutely blew them away. Wasn't even kind of close. I think the last two weeks Miotti is showing well.
Obviously this isn’t the only reason they are underperforming but it is a massive hole that needs filling.
Fed up of being nice about it.
Savala was unavailable but hasn't been great this season anyway (and isn't a game managing 10). I know you don't rate Jaco, but he is nowhere near the squad for whatever reason anyway.
No, but it's not a good sign that he's very much third choice now. And yes there's a bit off he's a young prospect, Munster now have a more exciting young prospect they're giving the gametime too.Yr Alban wrote: ↑Sat Apr 01, 2023 8:53 pmThe fact that he hasn’t been getting in a poorly performing team doesn’t necessarily mean he isn’t any good. It could also mean the selectors are daft. We have seen this happen in Scotland - Ireland aren’t immune.I like neeps wrote: ↑Sat Apr 01, 2023 7:27 pmI don't think he's shown anything at Munster, a club in desperate need of a turnaround, to suggest he's going to be the man to succeed in leading a turnaround of Edinburgh. Munster are not very good right now and he's not been getting in the team. There's really no guarantees he's going to be good. I hope so, but we're signing him because he's an option for Scotland first and fly half second. So I'm nervous as it's not the best process of signing players.
Edinburgh need to start phasing out a number of players. And the squad is poorly balanced, world class back three + Kinghorn in reserve who will all be on great money and then pretty thin in the centres, awful at 9, backrow there's some good, lock eh then front row there's Schoeman and what else.
What a win for Glasgow, Dragons suck and with 14 is what it is but they absolutely blew them away. Wasn't even kind of close. I think the last two weeks Miotti is showing well.
McDowall was always highly rated and is still a back up, just a better performing one - who at Glasgow isn't performing much better? I guess the best hope Munster and Healy have is van Graan and Rowntree are Wilson incompetent which is possible....dpedin wrote: ↑Sun Apr 02, 2023 8:09 amThis! McDowell was almost let go by the Weegies last season before Franco arrived. VdM was written off by Montpellier as a permacrock. Boff struggled to get game time for Racing. Dont underestimate the impact a good or bad coach can have on individual players plus National team will push selections in Ireland as they do in Scotland. Heally is a good player.Yr Alban wrote: ↑Sat Apr 01, 2023 8:53 pmThe fact that he hasn’t been getting in a poorly performing team doesn’t necessarily mean he isn’t any good. It could also mean the selectors are daft. We have seen this happen in Scotland - Ireland aren’t immune.I like neeps wrote: ↑Sat Apr 01, 2023 7:27 pm
I don't think he's shown anything at Munster, a club in desperate need of a turnaround, to suggest he's going to be the man to succeed in leading a turnaround of Edinburgh. Munster are not very good right now and he's not been getting in the team. There's really no guarantees he's going to be good. I hope so, but we're signing him because he's an option for Scotland first and fly half second. So I'm nervous as it's not the best process of signing players.
Edinburgh need to start phasing out a number of players. And the squad is poorly balanced, world class back three + Kinghorn in reserve who will all be on great money and then pretty thin in the centres, awful at 9, backrow there's some good, lock eh then front row there's Schoeman and what else.
What a win for Glasgow, Dragons suck and with 14 is what it is but they absolutely blew them away. Wasn't even kind of close. I think the last two weeks Miotti is showing well.
McDowall was not offered a new contract and was contemplating retirement - he was out in the market looking for offers and there were none. There was an interview last week on it. He was very much not highly rated and had been assessed as no longer required.I like neeps wrote: ↑Tue Apr 04, 2023 11:11 amMcDowall was always highly rated and is still a back up, just a better performing onedpedin wrote: ↑Sun Apr 02, 2023 8:09 amThis! McDowell was almost let go by the Weegies last season before Franco arrived. VdM was written off by Montpellier as a permacrock. Boff struggled to get game time for Racing. Dont underestimate the impact a good or bad coach can have on individual players plus National team will push selections in Ireland as they do in Scotland. Heally is a good player.
Munster have written him off because he is jumping ship to Edinburgh and Scotland. The minute he made that decision he was never getting any game time.I like neeps wrote: ↑Tue Apr 04, 2023 11:08 amNo, but it's not a good sign that he's very much third choice now. And yes there's a bit off he's a young prospect, Munster now have a more exciting young prospect they're giving the gametime too.Yr Alban wrote: ↑Sat Apr 01, 2023 8:53 pmThe fact that he hasn’t been getting in a poorly performing team doesn’t necessarily mean he isn’t any good. It could also mean the selectors are daft. We have seen this happen in Scotland - Ireland aren’t immune.I like neeps wrote: ↑Sat Apr 01, 2023 7:27 pm
I don't think he's shown anything at Munster, a club in desperate need of a turnaround, to suggest he's going to be the man to succeed in leading a turnaround of Edinburgh. Munster are not very good right now and he's not been getting in the team. There's really no guarantees he's going to be good. I hope so, but we're signing him because he's an option for Scotland first and fly half second. So I'm nervous as it's not the best process of signing players.
Edinburgh need to start phasing out a number of players. And the squad is poorly balanced, world class back three + Kinghorn in reserve who will all be on great money and then pretty thin in the centres, awful at 9, backrow there's some good, lock eh then front row there's Schoeman and what else.
What a win for Glasgow, Dragons suck and with 14 is what it is but they absolutely blew them away. Wasn't even kind of close. I think the last two weeks Miotti is showing well.
Which currently stem from inexperienced coaching, big names in the pack really struggling, and last year the creativity came from Mike Blair and Blair Kinghorn being able to rip apart defences and then get the lethal Bennett and back three involved but that's no longer happening as it's been worked out.
But against Leicester Healy wouldn't have made a difference. When Edinburgh kicked to the corner in Leicester's 22 the guys making an arse of it were McInally and Gilchrist. Neither of whom are going anywhere.
Hmm Carberry has been first choice when fit for Munster this season and Crowley is the coming man getting the minutes.Yr Alban wrote: ↑Tue Apr 04, 2023 11:59 amMunster have written him off because he is jumping ship to Edinburgh and Scotland. The minute he made that decision he was never getting any game time.I like neeps wrote: ↑Tue Apr 04, 2023 11:08 amNo, but it's not a good sign that he's very much third choice now. And yes there's a bit off he's a young prospect, Munster now have a more exciting young prospect they're giving the gametime too.
Which currently stem from inexperienced coaching, big names in the pack really struggling, and last year the creativity came from Mike Blair and Blair Kinghorn being able to rip apart defences and then get the lethal Bennett and back three involved but that's no longer happening as it's been worked out.
But against Leicester Healy wouldn't have made a difference. When Edinburgh kicked to the corner in Leicester's 22 the guys making an arse of it were McInally and Gilchrist. Neither of whom are going anywhere.
I'm sure he'll be fine but the definition of a journeyman pro - I can't see him being a significant step up on anything Edinburgh have had in the last few years. As far as I can see he has started 1 Prem game since 2019/20 with all other appearances from the bench.