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I can say with certainty that hospitals are not empty. The 2 local hospitals to me had reached capacity last week.
Given most elective activity is not going on they will obviously be quieter.
Empty is bollocks

Bimbowomxn wrote: ↑Sat Aug 22, 2020 8:24 am

Zig wrote: ↑Sat Aug 22, 2020 8:10 am They'll need to make the vaccine mandatory.
There's too many anti-vaxer morons out there these days.
For example a conspiracy theorist clown I met who suggested everyone should just get Covid-19 but said he wouldn't take a vaccine for it.

Being anti a specific rushed vaccine isn’t the same as being anti all vaccines. As pointed out it’s likely to be ineffective in the long run with the virus anyway.

You first.

You'll accept uncontrolled infection of a new virus but not the vaccine for it.

Of course.

C69 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 22, 2020 8:36 am I can say with certainty that hospitals are not empty. The 2 local hospitals to me had reached capacity last week.
Given most elective activity is not going on they will obviously be quieter.
Empty is bollocks

They’re are less than 500 covid patients in hospital in the UK. There’s 140,000 beds.

Thank fuck the NHS is treating things which are the cause of 99.5% of deaths in 2020.

Bimbowomxn wrote: ↑Sat Aug 22, 2020 8:44 am

C69 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 22, 2020 8:36 am I can say with certainty that hospitals are not empty. The 2 local hospitals to me had reached capacity last week.
Given most elective activity is not going on they will obviously be quieter.
Empty is bollocks

They’re are less than 500 covid patients in hospital in the UK. There’s 140,000 beds.

Thank fuck the NHS is treating things which are the cause of 99.5% of deaths in 2020.

You are clearly wrong about hospitals being empty.

C69 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 22, 2020 8:49 am

Bimbowomxn wrote: ↑Sat Aug 22, 2020 8:44 am

C69 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 22, 2020 8:36 am I can say with certainty that hospitals are not empty. The 2 local hospitals to me had reached capacity last week.
Given most elective activity is not going on they will obviously be quieter.
Empty is bollocks

They’re are less than 500 covid patients in hospital in the UK. There’s 140,000 beds.

Thank fuck the NHS is treating things which are the cause of 99.5% of deaths in 2020.

You are clearly wrong about hospitals being empty.

We are in a Corona virus thread. Talking of “wrong” , we are about a week away from your prediction of the second wave.

Bimbowomxn wrote: ↑Sat Aug 22, 2020 8:44 am

C69 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 22, 2020 8:36 am I can say with certainty that hospitals are not empty. The 2 local hospitals to me had reached capacity last week.
Given most elective activity is not going on they will obviously be quieter.
Empty is bollocks

They’re are less than 500 covid patients in hospital in the UK. There’s 140,000 beds.

Thank fuck the NHS is treating things which are the cause of 99.5% of deaths in 2020.

That is a straightforward lie.

NHS England is reporting 590 covid patients in hospital. To be in this category you have to have tested positive in the last 14 days. This is a weird categorisation. Given deaths are considered as anyone to have tested positive in the last 28 days, someone could be counted as a hospital covid death when they weren't considered a covid hospital patient.

Scotland appears to count this differently as they still have over 200 hospital covid cases

So that's over 800 even by the dodgy counting method of NHS England.

Now you'll deflect onto something slightly different with a question to distract from being caught again.

https://www.gov.scot/publications/coron ... aily-data/

https://www.england.nhs.uk/statistics/s ... -activity/

Bimbowomxn wrote: ↑Sat Aug 22, 2020 8:50 am

C69 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 22, 2020 8:49 am

Bimbowomxn wrote: ↑Sat Aug 22, 2020 8:44 am



They’re are less than 500 covid patients in hospital in the UK. There’s 140,000 beds.

Thank fuck the NHS is treating things which are the cause of 99.5% of deaths in 2020.

You are clearly wrong about hospitals being empty.

We are in a Corona virus thread. Talking of “wrong” , we are about a week away from your prediction of the second wave.

You are clearly wrong about hospitals being empty.

76 patients on ventilators in the whole UK.

480 patients in English hospitals (sorry I thought Scotland was covid free by now).



Apologies Biffer for the “lie” , it does however confirm the very very low incidents of serious illness from Covid.


Let see in a week what the second wave looks like.


When do we think the GP’s will be taking appointments again ?

Bimbowomxn wrote: ↑Sat Aug 22, 2020 8:28 am The pubs have been open for 7 weeks, the beach madness 10 weeks ago, hospitals are empty. There’s some proof in the science.

Except for the reported kill count going up last week for the first time since peak...

Patients in hospital (UK)

19-08-2020 841
18-08-2020 869
17-08-2020 902
16-08-2020 901
15-08-2020 896
14-08-2020 918
13-08-2020 931
12-08-2020 925
11-08-2020 951
10-08-2020 999
09-08-2020 896
08-08-2020 920
07-08-2020 1,000
06-08-2020 1,069

Insane_Homer wrote: ↑Sat Aug 22, 2020 10:12 am

Bimbowomxn wrote: ↑Sat Aug 22, 2020 8:28 am The pubs have been open for 7 weeks, the beach madness 10 weeks ago, hospitals are empty. There’s some proof in the science.

Except for the reported kill count going up last week for the first time since peak...

Patients in hospital (UK)

19-08-2020 841
18-08-2020 869
17-08-2020 902
16-08-2020 901
15-08-2020 896
14-08-2020 918
13-08-2020 931
12-08-2020 925
11-08-2020 951
10-08-2020 999
09-08-2020 896
08-08-2020 920
07-08-2020 1,000
06-08-2020 1,069

It didn’t go up last week of course. Last week we recorded a death free day and every other day in single figures.

Bimbowomxn wrote: ↑Sat Aug 22, 2020 10:19 am It didn’t go up last week of course. Last week we recorded a death free day and every other day in single figures.

Yes, it's hard to compare when the Govt using the same metric for the last ~+5 months, just happens to delay, then change how that metric is reported mid-week, when that week just happens to show the first rise in deaths using the same, that metric

on the plus side, I hear the government are releasing yet another track and trace app... to find Boris.

Insane_Homer wrote: ↑Sat Aug 22, 2020 10:22 am

Bimbowomxn wrote: ↑Sat Aug 22, 2020 10:19 am It didn’t go up last week of course. Last week we recorded a death free day and every other day in single figures.

Yes, it's hard to compare when the Govt using the same metric for the last ~+5 months, just happens to delay, then change how that metric is reported mid-week, when that week just happens to show the first rise in deaths using the same, old metric

It’s not that hard to compare. The deaths after the day we recorded zero had 2 deaths, in % terms a dramatic rise.

Insane_Homer wrote: ↑Sat Aug 22, 2020 10:33 am on the plus side, I hear the government are releasing yet another track and trace app... to find Boris.

It's ok, The Daily Mail found him and he's now cut short his holiday and will be hiding away at Chequers for the forseeable future

Bimbowomxn wrote: ↑Sat Aug 22, 2020 10:34 am It’s not that hard to compare. The deaths after the day we recorded zero had 2 deaths, in % terms a dramatic rise.

New Metric
No time restriction imposed 20
Death within 60 days, or COVID-19 on death certificate 20
Death within 28 days 0

Previous Metric
48



& the day after your 0 to 2 example, your metric, said 2 people died on the 17th. Yesterday that number was revised to 11 (old Metric 98)

and remember the 'new metric' you're so keen on results in a whopping 15,000+ discrepancy when compared with the ONS excess deaths data (which if I recall correctly, you said is more reliable than the PHE data).

Can you lot piss off and create and arguing thread?

Insane_Homer wrote: ↑Sat Aug 22, 2020 11:00 am

Bimbowomxn wrote: ↑Sat Aug 22, 2020 10:34 am It’s not that hard to compare. The deaths after the day we recorded zero had 2 deaths, in % terms a dramatic rise.

New Metric
No time restriction imposed 20
Death within 60 days, or COVID-19 on death certificate 20
Death within 28 days 0

Previous Metric
48



& the day after your 0 to 2 example, your metric, said 2 people died on the 17th. Yesterday that number was revised to 11 (old Metric 98)

and remember the 'new metric' you're so keen on results in a whopping 15,000+ discrepancy when compared with the ONS excess deaths data (which if I recall correctly, you said is more reliable than the PHE data).

All you keep doing is confirm how low the numbers of deaths are. There’s no second wave yet and the first is over.

https://theconversation.com/inflammatio ... vid-144768

While many factors contribute to how severely people are affected, including access to healthcare, occupational exposure and environmental risks such as pollution, it’s becoming clear that for some of these at-risk groups, it’s the response of their immune system – inflammation – that explains why they get so sick.

Specifically, we’re seeing that the risks associated with diabetes, obesity, age and sex are all related to the immune system functioning irregularly when confronted by the virus.

Insane_Homer wrote: ↑Sat Aug 22, 2020 12:48 pm https://theconversation.com/inflammatio ... vid-144768

While many factors contribute to how severely people are affected, including access to healthcare, occupational exposure and environmental risks such as pollution, it’s becoming clear that for some of these at-risk groups, it’s the response of their immune system – inflammation – that explains why they get so sick.

Specifically, we’re seeing that the risks associated with diabetes, obesity, age and sex are all related to the immune system functioning irregularly when confronted by the virus.

Hence why Dexamethasone is so effective.

Bimbowomxn wrote: ↑Sat Aug 22, 2020 11:16 am

All you keep doing is confirm how low the numbers of deaths are. There’s no second wave yet and the first is over.

Excellent - can you assholes fucking can it now, so the rest of us can talk sensibly about the virus, effects and strategies?

It was great listening to a Dr from Harvard this morning talking about a very fast saliva test that "appears" to be quite accurate. Here's hoping #gamechanger

mat the expat wrote: ↑Sat Aug 22, 2020 11:08 am Can you lot piss off and create and arguing thread?

This is not an argument!

Kiwias wrote: ↑Sun Aug 23, 2020 12:10 am

mat the expat wrote: ↑Sat Aug 22, 2020 11:08 am Can you lot piss off and create and arguing thread?

This is not an argument!

Yes it is!!

Banning the asshole again from here and letting him back on PR will solve the problem.

Insane_Homer wrote: ↑Sun Aug 23, 2020 7:28 am Banning the asshole again from here and letting him back on PR will solve the problem.

How about you just start a new thread about UK Covid stats and continue that tedious arguement
with him to your heart's content without spamming this thread.

Margin__Walker wrote: ↑Sun Aug 23, 2020 8:04 am

Insane_Homer wrote: ↑Sun Aug 23, 2020 7:28 am Banning the asshole again from here and letting him back on PR will solve the problem.

How about you just start a new thread about UK Covid stats and continue that tedious arguement
with him to your heart's content without spamming this thread.

You don’t think that’ll stop bimbo spamming this thread as well do you?

Biffer wrote: ↑Sun Aug 23, 2020 11:29 am

Margin__Walker wrote: ↑Sun Aug 23, 2020 8:04 am

Insane_Homer wrote: ↑Sun Aug 23, 2020 7:28 am Banning the asshole again from here and letting him back on PR will solve the problem.

How about you just start a new thread about UK Covid stats and continue that tedious arguement
with him to your heart's content without spamming this thread.

You don’t think that’ll stop bimbo spamming this thread as well do you?

It'll make it easier to read. 80% of his posts on here are just him and IH going at each other about daily death stats.

Margin__Walker wrote: ↑Sun Aug 23, 2020 11:48 am

Biffer wrote: ↑Sun Aug 23, 2020 11:29 am

Margin__Walker wrote: ↑Sun Aug 23, 2020 8:04 am

How about you just start a new thread about UK Covid stats and continue that tedious arguement
with him to your heart's content without spamming this thread.

You don’t think that’ll stop bimbo spamming this thread as well do you?

It'll make it easier to read. 80% of his posts on here are just him and IH going at each other about daily death stats.

He’ll just start doing it with someone else

Zig wrote: ↑Sat Aug 22, 2020 8:44 am

Bimbowomxn wrote: ↑Sat Aug 22, 2020 8:24 am

Zig wrote: ↑Sat Aug 22, 2020 8:10 am They'll need to make the vaccine mandatory.
There's too many anti-vaxer morons out there these days.
For example a conspiracy theorist clown I met who suggested everyone should just get Covid-19 but said he wouldn't take a vaccine for it.

Being anti a specific rushed vaccine isn’t the same as being anti all vaccines. As pointed out it’s likely to be ineffective in the long run with the virus anyway.

You first.

You'll accept uncontrolled infection of a new virus but not the vaccine for it.

Of course.

I’ve said no such thing.

Insane_Homer wrote: ↑Sun Aug 23, 2020 7:28 am Banning the asshole again from here and letting him back on PR will solve the problem.

To be fair, whilst he is irritating, you and JMK tend to lurch towards War and Peace posting in the same vein

mat the expat wrote: ↑Sun Aug 23, 2020 12:52 pm

Insane_Homer wrote: ↑Sun Aug 23, 2020 7:28 am Banning the asshole again from here and letting him back on PR will solve the problem.

To be fair, whilst he is irritating, you and JMK tend to lurch towards War and Peace posting in the same vein

I see no reason why Bimbo was banned from PR and even less why he should be banned from here

So weird, under the old method, today's reported death count in the uK is 5 deaths.

Under the new method (Deaths within 28 days) it's 1 on their xls published speadsheet.

But on the primary website (also says deaths within 28 days) it's 6

Insane_Homer wrote: ↑Sun Aug 23, 2020 6:47 pm So weird, under the old method, today's reported death count in the uK is 5 deaths.

Under the new method (Deaths within 28 days) it's 1 on their xls published speadsheet.

But on the primary website (also says deaths within 28 days) it's 6

Either way, don't worry. The numbers are either small or "far away" ...

https://scitechdaily.com/single-dose-of ... injection/

Some promising news regarding nasal vaccine

A little too much "social contact" at a French naturist camp leads to problems

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/ ... d-outbreak

sturginho wrote: ↑Mon Aug 24, 2020 8:56 am A little too much "social contact" at a French naturist camp leads to problems

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/ ... d-outbreak

No masks being worn?

robmatic wrote: ↑Mon Aug 24, 2020 9:43 am

sturginho wrote: ↑Mon Aug 24, 2020 8:56 am A little too much "social contact" at a French naturist camp leads to problems

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/ ... d-outbreak

No masks being worn?

Not so much as an English cap

See some lad in HK has been infected with a different strain 4 months apart. Came from Spain so presumably had the Spanish version and then the Chineser version.

MungoMan wrote: ↑Mon Aug 24, 2020 10:21 am

robmatic wrote: ↑Mon Aug 24, 2020 9:43 am

sturginho wrote: ↑Mon Aug 24, 2020 8:56 am A little too much "social contact" at a French naturist camp leads to problems

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/ ... d-outbreak

No masks being worn?

Not so much as an English cap

Nightmare finding somewhere to keep your anti-bac hand gel.

Just give this a little squeeze, madam

EnergiseR wrote: ↑Mon Aug 24, 2020 1:53 pm See some lad in HK has been infected with a different strain 4 months apart. Came from Spain so presumably had the Spanish version and then the Chineser version.

I know Raggs and co. have been at pains to point out that you're not immune to a virus, just that you fight it off easily and generally don't shed the virus. This guy was asymptomatic, is it possible he was in the process of fighting it off as normal and wasn't contagious? Anyone want to field this? Are you temporarily positive for a virus that you're 'immune' to while your body kills it?