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topofthemoon wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 1:37 pm The problem wasn't Edinburgh letting Darge go, the problem was Edinburgh signing both Boyle and Darge onto pro contracts out of the Academy at the same time - there was never going to be room for both of them. They should have been split up at that point (Academy promotion) and they wouldn't have wasted the best part of a season with both of them competing for the same role.

I like neeps wrote: ↑Tue Apr 11, 2023 10:08 am

topofthemoon wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 1:37 pm The problem wasn't Edinburgh letting Darge go, the problem was Edinburgh signing both Boyle and Darge onto pro contracts out of the Academy at the same time - there was never going to be room for both of them. They should have been split up at that point (Academy promotion) and they wouldn't have wasted the best part of a season with both of them competing for the same role.

I agree. It's why the academy stage 3 should have some kind of a draft so players are selected on base of need = gametime, the coaches rate them highly = gametime, or not stockpiling of players at positions the pro teams are very strong = less gametime.

I appreciate where possible players are in wherever is closest geographically but still doesn't really make sense from a development pov

weegie01 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 11, 2023 11:31 am

I like neeps wrote: ↑Tue Apr 11, 2023 10:08 am

topofthemoon wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 1:37 pm The problem wasn't Edinburgh letting Darge go, the problem was Edinburgh signing both Boyle and Darge onto pro contracts out of the Academy at the same time - there was never going to be room for both of them. They should have been split up at that point (Academy promotion) and they wouldn't have wasted the best part of a season with both of them competing for the same role.

I agree. It's why the academy stage 3 should have some kind of a draft so players are selected on base of need = gametime, the coaches rate them highly = gametime, or not stockpiling of players at positions the pro teams are very strong = less gametime.

I appreciate where possible players are in wherever is closest geographically but still doesn't really make sense from a development pov

Although players are default aligned with the club whose academy they came through, there is nothing stopping the other making an offer. Glasgow could have taken either Darge or Boyle from the academy. The players themselves expected one of them to head west. Glasgow showed no interest so it was a case of Edinburgh or nothing. Cockerill was not best pleased the issues were clear. I do not know why the SRU did not put their foot down and tell Glasgow to take one.

KingBlairhorn wrote: ↑Fri Apr 07, 2023 5:54 pm I’m also surprised by Brown, I wonder if he has something lined up because he is that unusual thing in Scottish rugby, an absolute giant specimen. He seemed to have the skills too, so quite disappointed if he falls out the game.

I like neeps wrote: ↑Tue Apr 11, 2023 1:40 pmVery interesting insight thanks weegie. The talent ID of Darge is very odd as almost immediately in the rainbow cup he was Scotland's best performer. He'd always been highly rated playing 3 years of u20s although moved to 8 to accommodate Boyle.

That reads as if Glasgow didn't offer him a pro contract. Do you know why they did in the end? And I assume academies don't select who is stage 3 and instead are given players in stage 3 so why weren't Glasgow just given him in the academy? I assume (could be wrongly) the pro team coaches aren't watch Scotland u18 and u20 matches.

It really was a complete farce Glasgow had Ioane and Lokotui on short term deals and not a young Scot.

weegie01 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 11, 2023 2:34 pm

I like neeps wrote: ↑Tue Apr 11, 2023 1:40 pmVery interesting insight thanks weegie. The talent ID of Darge is very odd as almost immediately in the rainbow cup he was Scotland's best performer. He'd always been highly rated playing 3 years of u20s although moved to 8 to accommodate Boyle.

That reads as if Glasgow didn't offer him a pro contract. Do you know why they did in the end? And I assume academies don't select who is stage 3 and instead are given players in stage 3 so why weren't Glasgow just given him in the academy? I assume (could be wrongly) the pro team coaches aren't watch Scotland u18 and u20 matches.

It really was a complete farce Glasgow had Ioane and Lokotui on short term deals and not a young Scot.

As I recall it was a mess with certain people playing silly buggers as Rennie and Cockerill had this 'keep away from my players' thing going on. Eventually someone in the SRU put their foot down. When one had to move, it was Cockerill's decision to keep Boyle. Who knows how he'd have gone with the same opportunities Darge has ahd.

Dogbert wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 9:54 am

Yr Alban wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 9:20 am TOTM has just tweeted that the penalty Glasgow kicked late in the game last night is the first penalty they have scored in 2023. Their 11th match, and 870 minutes of play. I just can’t get my head around this stat.

The shock news is TOTM actually got this wrong.

Actually only 797 minutes between pens since last pen scored by Glasgow (also by George Horne - on 30/12/22 v Edinburgh).

It just shows how much Glasgow back their catch & drive, the variation have shown this season has been fantastic - lots of hard work & effort has gone into preparation.

The Dempsey try was a thing of beauty last night

Blackmac wrote: ↑Tue Apr 11, 2023 5:03 pm

Dogbert wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 9:54 am

Yr Alban wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 9:20 am TOTM has just tweeted that the penalty Glasgow kicked late in the game last night is the first penalty they have scored in 2023. Their 11th match, and 870 minutes of play. I just can’t get my head around this stat.

The shock news is TOTM actually got this wrong.

Actually only 797 minutes between pens since last pen scored by Glasgow (also by George Horne - on 30/12/22 v Edinburgh).

It just shows how much Glasgow back their catch & drive, the variation have shown this season has been fantastic - lots of hard work & effort has gone into preparation.

The Dempsey try was a thing of beauty last night

Speaking of TOTM, has anyone any news about Frillage. It would be good to know how his recovery is progressing.

Biffer wrote: ↑Wed Apr 12, 2023 12:06 pm WP has signed a one year extension at Edinburgh.

Says it will 'probably' be his last year of professional rugby.

Go on yersel big fella.

robmatic wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 9:34 am

Biffer wrote: ↑Wed Apr 12, 2023 12:06 pm WP has signed a one year extension at Edinburgh.

Says it will 'probably' be his last year of professional rugby.

Go on yersel big fella.

I feel old. I remember him coming over as just a young fella.

dkm57 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 2:37 pm That's a strong looking squad so how come Edinburgh are struggling?

weegie01 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 4:17 pm

dkm57 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 2:37 pm That's a strong looking squad so how come Edinburgh are struggling?

The are not paying attention when I offer advice from the stands.

robmatic wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 9:34 am

Biffer wrote: ↑Wed Apr 12, 2023 12:06 pm WP has signed a one year extension at Edinburgh.

Says it will 'probably' be his last year of professional rugby.

Go on yersel big fella.

I feel old. I remember him coming over as just a young fella.

KingBlairhorn wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 8:16 pm That non-try there in the Glasgow game is why refs coaching players is so shit. Marginal as fuck but all actions directly result from a ref who can’t shut his mouth and let the rugby happen. I’d be pretty salty about that if I was a Scarlets fan, but I’d be fucking raging as a Glasgow fan of the try was given. A true lose-lose situation.

Slick wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 8:25 pm Dobie has to get more game time. If he isn’t going to get it at Glasgow then get him to Edinburgh. There is a very, very classy player being held back imo

Dogbert wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 10:30 pm Truly atrocious conditions tonight – I’m sure I saw the boys in the East end stand building an Ark at Half time but in the end we ground out a result, and booked a home quarterfinal with a game to spare.

Fagerson (snr) was probably the pick of the bunch , but Sione made good metres – reminds me a lot of Josh Strauss at his best.

Great send off to the Batman in what could be his final appearance.

Both initial half backs weren’t great tonight , some of Prices decision making and kicking wasn’t great , and the same could be said of Jordan, actually this game was made for Thomson who has the best kicking game of any 10 in Scotland at the moment, such a shame he has had such a injury affected season.

Dobie was certainly better than Price when he came on , and a suspect we may see him start next week against Connacht.

As for Dobie getting game time , he’s had more starts that Price this season , and more starts than Jones / Johnson/ Darge / Cummings / both Fagersons. Sure Glasgow have a decent strength at Scrum half at the moment , but with Horne /Price pretty much guaranteed to be on International duty he is bound to get game time at Glasgow ,

He’s an integral part of Franco’s plans to get Glasgow where he wants them to be.

Slick wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 8:24 pm

KingBlairhorn wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 8:16 pm That non-try there in the Glasgow game is why refs coaching players is so shit. Marginal as fuck but all actions directly result from a ref who can’t shut his mouth and let the rugby happen. I’d be pretty salty about that if I was a Scarlets fan, but I’d be fucking raging as a Glasgow fan of the try was given. A true lose-lose situation.

This, good post

dkm57 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 15, 2023 8:14 am Maybe just me but I was relieved when Price went off but thought they'd blown it when Brown replaced Matthews.

To me Price is maybe 4th or 5th behind the other 9s Scotland have available.

Slick wrote: ↑Sat Apr 15, 2023 6:58 pm Anyone else having problems streaming from Viaplay?

Yr Alban wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 1:49 pm Typical that Embra start playing well when there is nothing left for them to play for. Ah well!