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clydecloggie wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 11:42 am

Big D wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 11:29 am Wouldn't surprise me in the least if Henderson is a starting lock come the 6N.

Richie Gray will probably retire, Grant Gilchrist is getting on a bit...you'd think Scott Cummings will take a shirt and make it his own, that then leaves Skinner, Jonny Gray and Henderson to fight it out?

Bit of a bold claim that Henderson will take the shirt, but we seem to be OK in the second row for the next wee while.

Tichtheid wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 12:02 pm I was looking this up whilst others posted on the subject, but our lock stocks (ahem) are;


Richie Gray - soon to be 34
Grant Gilchrist - soon to be 33
Jonny Gray - 29
Sam Skinner - 28
Scott Cummings - 26
Callum Hunter-Hill - 26
Alex Craig - 26
Jamie Hodgson - 25
Cam Henderson - 23
Marshall Sykes - 23


I wish we had that depth at both sides of the front row

Biffer wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 12:03 pm

Tichtheid wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 12:02 pm I was looking this up whilst others posted on the subject, but our lock stocks (ahem) are;


Richie Gray - soon to be 34
Grant Gilchrist - soon to be 33
Jonny Gray - 29
Sam Skinner - 28
Scott Cummings - 26
Callum Hunter-Hill - 26
Alex Craig - 26
Jamie Hodgson - 25
Cam Henderson - 23
Marshall Sykes - 23


I wish we had that depth at both sides of the front row

Are you saying we're short of the barrells?

clydecloggie wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 11:42 am

Big D wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 11:29 am Wouldn't surprise me in the least if Henderson is a starting lock come the 6N.

Richie Gray will probably retire, Grant Gilchrist is getting on a bit...you'd think Scott Cummings will take a shirt and make it his own, that then leaves Skinner, Jonny Gray and Henderson to fight it out?

Bit of a bold claim that Henderson will take the shirt, but we seem to be OK in the second row for the next wee while.

Big D wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 2:04 pm

clydecloggie wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 11:42 am

Big D wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 11:29 am Wouldn't surprise me in the least if Henderson is a starting lock come the 6N.

Richie Gray will probably retire, Grant Gilchrist is getting on a bit...you'd think Scott Cummings will take a shirt and make it his own, that then leaves Skinner, Jonny Gray and Henderson to fight it out?

Bit of a bold claim that Henderson will take the shirt, but we seem to be OK in the second row for the next wee while.

I didn't say he would, just it wouldn't surprise me if he was. Won't have the world cup hangover/attrition and has the opportunity to start the club season well.

Biffer wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 2:16 pm

Big D wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 2:04 pm

clydecloggie wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 11:42 am

Richie Gray will probably retire, Grant Gilchrist is getting on a bit...you'd think Scott Cummings will take a shirt and make it his own, that then leaves Skinner, Jonny Gray and Henderson to fight it out?

Bit of a bold claim that Henderson will take the shirt, but we seem to be OK in the second row for the next wee while.

I didn't say he would, just it wouldn't surprise me if he was. Won't have the world cup hangover/attrition and has the opportunity to start the club season well.

Yeah, but he'll have it hanging over him that we'll be expected to repeat winning the World Cup next time.

Simian wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 2:35 pm

Biffer wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 2:16 pm

Big D wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 2:04 pm

I didn't say he would, just it wouldn't surprise me if he was. Won't have the world cup hangover/attrition and has the opportunity to start the club season well.

Yeah, but he'll have it hanging over him that we'll be expected to repeat winning the World Cup next time.

If he can’t handle that type of pressure, he doesn’t deserve the shirt

dpedin wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 3:29 pm

Simian wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 2:35 pm

Biffer wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 2:16 pm

Yeah, but he'll have it hanging over him that we'll be expected to repeat winning the World Cup next time.

If he can’t handle that type of pressure, he doesn’t deserve the shirt

Hendersons English partner in the Leicester 2nd row George Martin played for England against Wales on Saturday and he was massively underwhelming. I am not sure that being a Leicester regular is a guarantee for an international starting position. Martin seems to be to have a reputation that he barely deserves, he was outplayed by the Welsh pairing on Saturday. Whilst I believe Henderson is a better player than Martin I am not sure either are shoe-ins at international level yet although Henderson certainly has more potential.

dpedin wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 3:29 pm

Simian wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 2:35 pm

Biffer wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 2:16 pm

Yeah, but he'll have it hanging over him that we'll be expected to repeat winning the World Cup next time.

If he can’t handle that type of pressure, he doesn’t deserve the shirt

Hendersons English partner in the Leicester 2nd row George Martin played for England against Wales on Saturday and he was massively underwhelming. I am not sure that being a Leicester regular is a guarantee for an international starting position. Martin seems to be to have a reputation that he barely deserves, he was outplayed by the Welsh pairing on Saturday. Whilst I believe Henderson is a better player than Martin I am not sure either are shoe-ins at international level yet although Henderson certainly has more potential.

Simian wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 5:04 pm Rugbyrama expecting this side to play Scotland at the weekend.

Le XV de départ probable : 15. Ramos, 14.Penaud, 13. Fickou, 12. Danty, 11. Villiere, 10. Ntamack, 9. Dupont, 7. Ollivon, 8. Alldritt, 6. Boudehent, 5. Flament, 4. Woki, 3. Aldegheri, 2. Marchand, 1. Baille.

16. Bourgarit, 17. Gros, 18. Atonio, 19. Chalureau, 20. Cretin ou Tanga, 21. Lucu, 22. Gailleton, 23. Bielle-Biarrey.

https://www.rugbyrama.fr/2023/08/08/xv- ... 385400.php

Dogbert wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 5:23 pm

Simian wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 5:04 pm Rugbyrama expecting this side to play Scotland at the weekend.

Le XV de départ probable : 15. Ramos, 14.Penaud, 13. Fickou, 12. Danty, 11. Villiere, 10. Ntamack, 9. Dupont, 7. Ollivon, 8. Alldritt, 6. Boudehent, 5. Flament, 4. Woki, 3. Aldegheri, 2. Marchand, 1. Baille.

16. Bourgarit, 17. Gros, 18. Atonio, 19. Chalureau, 20. Cretin ou Tanga, 21. Lucu, 22. Gailleton, 23. Bielle-Biarrey.

https://www.rugbyrama.fr/2023/08/08/xv- ... 385400.php

Looks weak

Biffer wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 5:46 pm All that infighting over Henderson seemed to camouflage me suggesting we'd win the World Cup nicely, thanks guys.

Biffer wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 5:46 pm All that infighting over Henderson seemed to camouflage me suggesting we'd win the World Cup nicely, thanks guys.

Big D wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 5:56 pm Thinking about Saturday, I'm not sure I'd start Finn. The other two 10s are inexperienced at international level in the position and I'm not sure starting v Georgia is food enough experience of feeling the pace and intensity of a top side.

Big D wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 5:56 pm Thinking about Saturday, I'm not sure I'd start Finn. The other two 10s are inexperienced at international level in the position and I'm not sure starting v Georgia is food enough experience of feeling the pace and intensity of a top side.

Having acknowledged mitigating factors including the player’s admission at the earliest opportunity, his remorse which was conveyed to the French player as well as shown during the hearing, and accepting that there were no aggravating factors to consider, the Committee reduced the four week entry point by one week, resulting in a sanction of three weeks (to be served as the following given the player’s upcoming schedule):

Summer Nations Series:
12 August 2023 Scotland v France
26 August 2023 Scotland v Georgia

Rugby World Cup:
10th September Scotland v South Africa

The Player may apply to take part in the Coaching Intervention Programme to substitute the final match of his/her sanction for a coaching intervention aimed at modifying specific techniques and technical issues that contributed to the foul play

mos_eisely_ wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 8:51 pm Zander can be available for all of the RWC

Having acknowledged mitigating factors including the player’s admission at the earliest opportunity, his remorse which was conveyed to the French player as well as shown during the hearing, and accepting that there were no aggravating factors to consider, the Committee reduced the four week entry point by one week, resulting in a sanction of three weeks (to be served as the following given the player’s upcoming schedule):

Summer Nations Series:
12 August 2023 Scotland v France
26 August 2023 Scotland v Georgia

Rugby World Cup:
10th September Scotland v South Africa

The Player may apply to take part in the Coaching Intervention Programme to substitute the final match of his/her sanction for a coaching intervention aimed at modifying specific techniques and technical issues that contributed to the foul play

mos_eisely_ wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 8:51 pm Zander can be available for all of the RWC

Having acknowledged mitigating factors including the player’s admission at the earliest opportunity, his remorse which was conveyed to the French player as well as shown during the hearing, and accepting that there were no aggravating factors to consider, the Committee reduced the four week entry point by one week, resulting in a sanction of three weeks (to be served as the following given the player’s upcoming schedule):

Summer Nations Series:
12 August 2023 Scotland v France
26 August 2023 Scotland v Georgia

Rugby World Cup:
10th September Scotland v South Africa

The Player may apply to take part in the Coaching Intervention Programme to substitute the final match of his/her sanction for a coaching intervention aimed at modifying specific techniques and technical issues that contributed to the foul play

Tichtheid wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 8:11 pm Scotland's men's team have just won gold at the youth Commonwealth Games 7s

Ya Bass

Simian wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 6:06 pm

Big D wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 5:56 pm Thinking about Saturday, I'm not sure I'd start Finn. The other two 10s are inexperienced at international level in the position and I'm not sure starting v Georgia is food enough experience of feeling the pace and intensity of a top side.

It’s a tough one… give Healy a run in a tough game, give Finn more time to get up to his best, or give BK a run to reorient himself to playing ten (and get some more minutes under Smith’s belt). It’s a tough call.

Tbh tho, I’m more intrigued by who the two 9s will be (and which one starts) and who goes in at 7.

Tichtheid wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 9:09 pm That is a fucking ridiculous decision, it has to be said.

They really don't give a flying fuck about head safety.

Having got that off my chest I'm glad for Scotland's sake that Fagerson is available for the the first game, but this is becoming like boxing for me. I'd hate to stop watching rugby due to the lack of care the governing bodies have for the participants.

Slick wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 9:43 pm This made me giggle

fishfoodie wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 10:22 pm

Slick wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 9:43 pm This made me giggle

Just remember that you're a hypocritical cunt the next time you start bitching about any perceived advantage the Irish , because you lot just got an absolute gift !

Biffer wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 10:51 pm We need twenty years of this to equalise it with you.

fishfoodie wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 10:55 pm

Biffer wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 10:51 pm We need twenty years of this to equalise it with you.

Hey, World Cup year, there has to be some kind of weighting in play here for having a critical player getting a walk.

clydecloggie wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 9:01 pm A very Irish decision by the panel. It's almost as if we're seen as a Tier 1 country these days.

And on team selection, I think Toonie has hinted that he'd like to have the first XV get as much game time as possible together before the South Africa game. So definitely a similar team to last week on show in St Etienne this weekend.

fishfoodie wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 10:22 pm

Slick wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 9:43 pm This made me giggle

Just remember that you're a hypocritical cunt the next time you start bitching about any perceived advantage the Irish , because you lot just got an absolute gift !