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Re: 2022 The Rugby Championship

Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2022 8:50 am
by Gumboot
Dan54 wrote: Thu Sep 01, 2022 6:31 am
Gumboot wrote: Thu Sep 01, 2022 4:49 am
Dan54 wrote: Thu Sep 01, 2022 4:14 amFeel for Perofeta, but he was there as an injury replacement, and so was always going to lose spot, same as Vaii who got no time. It's not really that unusual for bench players.
Thought they were both named in the original RC squad back in July, Dan?
Yep named in squad as most bench players are. Not saying I like it happening, but a few people have been named in squads with next to no game time. I feel for the poor buggers but it is a fact of life.
Sorry, but I can't see any justification for how Perofeta was treated. Or Sowakula.

And then there's Hoskins Sotutu. This will be 8 tests deep into the year without him featuring in a single match-day 23. Why was he even selected to start with?

Re: 2022 The Rugby Championship

Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2022 8:57 am
by Certain Navigator
Gumboot wrote: Thu Sep 01, 2022 5:07 am
Kiwias wrote: Thu Sep 01, 2022 5:02 am
Guy Smiley wrote: Thu Sep 01, 2022 4:58 am What odds on losing the Bledisloe right now?
The Aussies will be making space in their trophy cupboard as we speak.
Yep, thankfully I'm not a betting man.

Agree with you about Aumua. We really only need one of Coles and Taylor in the squad...at most.
Unfortunately, Aumua's quite some distance off being even the best hooker in the NPC, so he's hardly a logical replacement.

Re: 2022 The Rugby Championship

Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2022 9:38 am
by Gumboot
Certain Navigator wrote: Thu Sep 01, 2022 8:57 am
Gumboot wrote: Thu Sep 01, 2022 5:07 amAgree with you about Aumua. We really only need one of Coles and Taylor in the squad...at most.
Unfortunately, Aumua's quite some distance off being even the best hooker in the NPC, so he's hardly a logical replacement.
Do you have someone else in mind, or happy with the status quo?

Re: 2022 The Rugby Championship

Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2022 10:14 am
by Kiwias
Certain Navigator wrote: Thu Sep 01, 2022 8:57 am
Gumboot wrote: Thu Sep 01, 2022 5:07 am
Kiwias wrote: Thu Sep 01, 2022 5:02 am

The Aussies will be making space in their trophy cupboard as we speak.
Yep, thankfully I'm not a betting man.

Agree with you about Aumua. We really only need one of Coles and Taylor in the squad...at most.
Unfortunately, Aumua's quite some distance off being even the best hooker in the NPC, so he's hardly a logical replacement.
Is there anyone under 25 that you would suggest as a possible AB squad member? Other than Aumua or George Bell? I think Bell is still too inexperienced.

Re: 2022 The Rugby Championship

Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2022 10:20 am
by Gumboot
Kiwias wrote: Thu Sep 01, 2022 10:14 am
Certain Navigator wrote: Thu Sep 01, 2022 8:57 am
Gumboot wrote: Thu Sep 01, 2022 5:07 am

Yep, thankfully I'm not a betting man.

Agree with you about Aumua. We really only need one of Coles and Taylor in the squad...at most.
Unfortunately, Aumua's quite some distance off being even the best hooker in the NPC, so he's hardly a logical replacement.
Is there anyone under 25 that you would suggest as a possible AB squad member? Other than Aumua or George Bell? I think Bell is still too inexperienced.
Yep, he's one for the future, but his defence needs a lot of work.

Re: 2022 The Rugby Championship

Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2022 2:01 pm
by OomStruisbaai
Bokke taking the piss in Australia

Sources familiar with the incident, who spoke on the condition of anonymity, told the Herald an incident took place during a training session at the school on Monday afternoon.

A Springboks team management official said the player, who has not been identified, walked away during training to an isolated location near trees “as it was unfortunately an urgent call of nature”.

“The player apologised to the school headmaster,” the official said.

Sources say the incident was witnessed by the school’s principal, Lance Raskall, and one other adult.

South African management was quickly alerted to the incident after a complaint was made. The tourists were told their behaviour was not appreciated given the school had been kind enough to let the reigning world champions use their facilities.

When contacted by the Herald on Wednesday afternoon, Raskall denied any incident had taken place relating to the South African team this week.

However, a spokesperson for the NSW Department of Education later confirmed an incident did occur at the school but stressed no students from Randwick Boys’ High witnessed the Springboks player urinating on the field.

The training session did not begin until school had finished on Monday, but the oval where the team trained could have been viewed by people on the street.

Following discussions, the Springboks were granted permission to continue training at the school, which they did on Tuesday and Wednesday.

The team has a day off on Thursday before their captain’s run on Friday ahead of their clash with the Wallabies.

Randwick Boys’ High has invited other rugby teams, including the Wallabies, to use their facilities in the past. Wallabies representatives Jack Maddocks, Tom Robertson, Tolu Latu and others visited the school in 2018.

Re: 2022 The Rugby Championship

Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2022 5:35 pm
by LenCohen
OomStruisbaai wrote: Thu Sep 01, 2022 2:01 pm Bokke taking the piss in Australia

Sources familiar with the incident, who spoke on the condition of anonymity, told the Herald an incident took place during a training session at the school on Monday afternoon.

A Springboks team management official said the player, who has not been identified, walked away during training to an isolated location near trees “as it was unfortunately an urgent call of nature”.

“The player apologised to the school headmaster,” the official said.

Sources say the incident was witnessed by the school’s principal, Lance Raskall, and one other adult.

South African management was quickly alerted to the incident after a complaint was made. The tourists were told their behaviour was not appreciated given the school had been kind enough to let the reigning world champions use their facilities.

When contacted by the Herald on Wednesday afternoon, Raskall denied any incident had taken place relating to the South African team this week.

However, a spokesperson for the NSW Department of Education later confirmed an incident did occur at the school but stressed no students from Randwick Boys’ High witnessed the Springboks player urinating on the field.

The training session did not begin until school had finished on Monday, but the oval where the team trained could have been viewed by people on the street.

Following discussions, the Springboks were granted permission to continue training at the school, which they did on Tuesday and Wednesday.

The team has a day off on Thursday before their captain’s run on Friday ahead of their clash with the Wallabies.

Randwick Boys’ High has invited other rugby teams, including the Wallabies, to use their facilities in the past. Wallabies representatives Jack Maddocks, Tom Robertson, Tolu Latu and others visited the school in 2018.
There's a weird puritan streak in Australia isn't there

Re: 2022 The Rugby Championship

Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2022 6:05 pm
by Ymx
That’s a newsworthy incident ????!!!

Ffs, get a grip Australia.

Re: 2022 The Rugby Championship

Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2022 8:13 pm
by Dan54
Gumboot wrote: Thu Sep 01, 2022 8:50 am
Dan54 wrote: Thu Sep 01, 2022 6:31 am
Gumboot wrote: Thu Sep 01, 2022 4:49 am

Thought they were both named in the original RC squad back in July, Dan?
Yep named in squad as most bench players are. Not saying I like it happening, but a few people have been named in squads with next to no game time. I feel for the poor buggers but it is a fact of life.
Sorry, but I can't see any justification for how Perofeta was treated. Or Sowakula.

And then there's Hoskins Sotutu. This will be 8 tests deep into the year without him featuring in a single match-day 23. Why was he even selected to start with?
Mate I not suggesting it fair on Perofeta, just saying it not unusual, I pretty disappointed for him, it's unfortunate fact of being a back up player. Talk to the likes of Marty Holah, Norm Hewitt etc who just sat on bench etc time and again. The hardest thing for Perofeta could well be he will lose spot to DMac when next AB squad is named for EOYT.

Re: 2022 The Rugby Championship

Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2022 9:00 pm
by Gumboot
Yeah but bringing him on for his debut in the last minute of a lost cause is still pretty stink, imho.

Fucking dumbo Foster should've known better.

Re: 2022 The Rugby Championship

Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2022 5:25 am
by assfly
I'm a bit worried about Moodie.

I was a bit surprised to see him called up in the first place. He's had a solid season for the Bulls but he's hardly set the competition on fire.

He's 19 years old and technically our fifth choice of winger behind Kolbe, Nkosi, Arendse and Gelant. He's making a debut in a very disjointed team against an Australia team that took us apart last week.

Obviously I hope he has a great game and my fears are unfounded, but I fully expect Australia to target him.

Re: 2022 The Rugby Championship

Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2022 6:14 am
by Kiwias
Ymx wrote: Thu Sep 01, 2022 6:05 pm That’s a newsworthy incident ????!!!

Ffs, get a grip Australia.
Male player sneaks a quick wizz behind the trees at a Boys' High School ..... nothing to see, move on.

Re: 2022 The Rugby Championship

Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2022 6:30 am
by Certain Navigator
Kiwias wrote: Thu Sep 01, 2022 10:14 am
Certain Navigator wrote: Thu Sep 01, 2022 8:57 am
Gumboot wrote: Thu Sep 01, 2022 5:07 am

Yep, thankfully I'm not a betting man.

Agree with you about Aumua. We really only need one of Coles and Taylor in the squad...at most.
Unfortunately, Aumua's quite some distance off being even the best hooker in the NPC, so he's hardly a logical replacement.
Is there anyone under 25 that you would suggest as a possible AB squad member? Other than Aumua or George Bell? I think Bell is still too inexperienced.
Thompson and McAlister are comfortably the next best hookers. I assume Thompson is young as he's been behind Taukei’aho and Slater at the Chiefs. Hopefully he'll get more game time next year. McAlister's main problem is that he seems to be injury-prone.

Bell has great promise, but needs lots more miles under his belt first. He's certainly getting that at the moment though with Canty's first two hookers out injured and Funnell not being fit enough to play more than 20 minutes or so.

Re: 2022 The Rugby Championship

Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2022 7:00 am
by Gumboot
Certain Navigator wrote: Fri Sep 02, 2022 6:30 amThompson and McAlister are comfortably the next best hookers. I assume Thompson is young as he's been behind Taukei’aho and Slater at the Chiefs. Hopefully he'll get more game time next year. McAlister's main problem is that he seems to be injury-prone.

Bell has great promise, but needs lots more miles under his belt first. He's certainly getting that at the moment though with Canty's first two hookers out injured and Funnell not being fit enough to play more than 20 minutes or so.
It's good to know there are so many young hookers coming through.

Re: 2022 The Rugby Championship

Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2022 9:32 am
by FalseBayFC
My predictions.
- A resurgent All Blacks team with Coach Foster now justifiably entrenched until at least after RWC 2023 to take it by 12-15
- Boks have been re-shuffled and re-jigged. Wallabies home town advantage to tilt in their favour. Wobs by 6-9 points.

Potential highlights. Nick White to lose the balance of his mustache hairs and go off in a neck brace. Jasper Wiese the culprit will be red carded and suspended for four weeks. Teenager Canan Moodie will score a scintillating try on debut and then take a piss on the corner flag in celebration.

Re: 2022 The Rugby Championship

Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2022 11:56 am
by boere wors
FalseBayFC wrote: Fri Sep 02, 2022 9:32 am My predictions.
- A resurgent All Blacks team with Coach Foster now justifiably entrenched until at least after RWC 2023 to take it by 12-15
- Boks have been re-shuffled and re-jigged. Wallabies home town advantage to tilt in their favour. Wobs by 6-9 points.

Potential highlights. Nick White to lose the balance of his mustache hairs and go off in a neck brace. Jasper Wiese the culprit will be red carded and suspended for four weeks. Teenager Canan Moodie will score a scintillating try on debut and then take a piss on the corner flag in celebration.
:lol:

You are a funny guy, i realize lately.

Re: 2022 The Rugby Championship

Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2022 2:06 pm
by Sards
FalseBayFC wrote: Fri Sep 02, 2022 9:32 am My predictions.
- A resurgent All Blacks team with Coach Foster now justifiably entrenched until at least after RWC 2023 to take it by 12-15
- Boks have been re-shuffled and re-jigged. Wallabies home town advantage to tilt in their favour. Wobs by 6-9 points.

Potential highlights. Nick White to lose the balance of his mustache hairs and go off in a neck brace. Jasper Wiese the culprit will be red carded and suspended for four weeks. Teenager Canan Moodie will score a scintillating try on debut and then take a piss on the corner flag in celebration.
:lol:

Re: 2022 The Rugby Championship

Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2022 8:49 pm
by Dan54
Little concerning to be reading comments of people who watched a NRL game at stadium in Sydney how unstable the ground seemed to be. Doesn't bode well for a rugby test if it flying apart with leasgue!

Re: 2022 The Rugby Championship

Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2022 10:08 pm
by OomStruisbaai
Dan54 wrote: Fri Sep 02, 2022 8:49 pm Little concerning to be reading comments of people who watched a NRL game at stadium in Sydney how unstable the ground seemed to be. Doesn't bode well for a rugby test if it flying apart with leasgue!
Wallabies will enjoy it.

Re: 2022 The Rugby Championship

Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2022 10:32 pm
by Deepsouth
Dan54 wrote: Fri Sep 02, 2022 8:49 pm Little concerning to be reading comments of people who watched a NRL game at stadium in Sydney how unstable the ground seemed to be. Doesn't bode well for a rugby test if it flying apart with leasgue!
It's a brand new stadium and that grass has just been laid I believe.

Lovely boutique stadium right next to the SCG.

Re: 2022 The Rugby Championship

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2022 2:53 am
by Enzedder
Wind and cloud both picking up. Forecast for a rainy game appears spot on.

Re: 2022 The Rugby Championship

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2022 2:58 am
by Gumboot
Enzedder wrote: Sat Sep 03, 2022 2:53 am Wind and cloud both picking up. Forecast for a rainy game appears spot on.
You off to the test tonight, Enz?

Re: 2022 The Rugby Championship

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2022 3:03 am
by Enzedder
No way I am spending time or money on that rabble at the moment. They have to earn it.

Re: 2022 The Rugby Championship

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2022 3:05 am
by Gumboot
Enzedder wrote: Sat Sep 03, 2022 3:03 am No way I am spending time or money on that rabble at the moment. They have to earn it.
Yeah, I'm struggling to muster any enthusiasm at all tbh.

Re: 2022 The Rugby Championship

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2022 3:18 am
by assfly
Watching All Black fans melt down this week has been interesting. I guess as Bok fans we go through this sort of cycle more regularly and are used to the emotional rollercoaster and calls for the coach to be sacked.

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Re: 2022 The Rugby Championship

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2022 3:39 am
by Guy Smiley
This isn't a melt down, neither is it the first time the ABs have had a bad season... the Trinations of 1998 was a shocker for us.

Most of us seem to be pretty united in our views with some detail differences over individual players. We can all see the coach issue and the wider, more worrying issue involving the CEO and Board.


None of us are melting down over it. If anything, it's the Saffa fans in here losing their panties.

Re: 2022 The Rugby Championship

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2022 4:00 am
by Dan54
Deepsouth wrote: Fri Sep 02, 2022 10:32 pm
Dan54 wrote: Fri Sep 02, 2022 8:49 pm Little concerning to be reading comments of people who watched a NRL game at stadium in Sydney how unstable the ground seemed to be. Doesn't bode well for a rugby test if it flying apart with leasgue!
It's a brand new stadium and that grass has just been laid I believe.

Lovely boutique stadium right next to the SCG.
Mate looks a brilliant stadium, and realised it is new, just a shame grass maybe hasn't taken properly. Wasn't a criticism of stadium, Sydney (like a lot) have had a shit load of rain this year, so understand the problem.

Re: 2022 The Rugby Championship

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2022 5:35 am
by assfly
Guy Smiley wrote: Sat Sep 03, 2022 3:39 am This isn't a melt down, neither is it the first time the ABs have had a bad season... the Trinations of 1998 was a shocker for us.

Most of us seem to be pretty united in our views with some detail differences over individual players. We can all see the coach issue and the wider, more worrying issue involving the CEO and Board.


None of us are melting down over it. If anything, it's the Saffa fans in here losing their panties.
Calm down, no need to shout.

Re: 2022 The Rugby Championship

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2022 5:35 am
by assfly
Zimbabwe just beat Australia in cricket. It's a good omen for the Boks.

Re: 2022 The Rugby Championship

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2022 6:00 am
by Certain Navigator
Gumboot wrote: Fri Sep 02, 2022 7:00 am
Certain Navigator wrote: Fri Sep 02, 2022 6:30 amThompson and McAlister are comfortably the next best hookers. I assume Thompson is young as he's been behind Taukei’aho and Slater at the Chiefs. Hopefully he'll get more game time next year. McAlister's main problem is that he seems to be injury-prone.

Bell has great promise, but needs lots more miles under his belt first. He's certainly getting that at the moment though with Canty's first two hookers out injured and Funnell not being fit enough to play more than 20 minutes or so.
It's good to know there are so many young hookers coming through.
In theory yes, but it remains to be seen whether of them kicks on. Aumua looked future all-World once too.

Re: 2022 The Rugby Championship

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2022 6:17 am
by OomStruisbaai
assfly wrote: Sat Sep 03, 2022 5:35 am
Guy Smiley wrote: Sat Sep 03, 2022 3:39 am This isn't a melt down, neither is it the first time the ABs have had a bad season... the Trinations of 1998 was a shocker for us.

Most of us seem to be pretty united in our views with some detail differences over individual players. We can all see the coach issue and the wider, more worrying issue involving the CEO and Board.


None of us are melting down over it. If anything, it's the Saffa fans in here losing their panties.
Calm down, no need to shout.
Guy like all the Canterbury/Crusaders supporters is not use to losing, specially the lot in South Africa. The All Blacks supporters in South Africa think its the same team.

Re: 2022 The Rugby Championship

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2022 6:22 am
by OomStruisbaai
assfly wrote: Fri Sep 02, 2022 5:25 am I'm a bit worried about Moodie.

I was a bit surprised to see him called up in the first place. He's had a solid season for the Bulls but he's hardly set the competition on fire.

He's 19 years old and technically our fifth choice of winger behind Kolbe, Nkosi, Arendse and Gelant. He's making a debut in a very disjointed team against an Australia team that took us apart last week.

Obviously I hope he has a great game and my fears are unfounded, but I fully expect Australia to target him.
He is not my only worry. :oops: Our loose forwards combination, Damian Willemse and specially our rush defense. Lots of responsibility on Wazza shoulders today.

A win will be a bonus, if we man up and keep it close that will be enough.

Re: 2022 The Rugby Championship

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2022 6:45 am
by Jethro
Gumboot wrote: Sat Sep 03, 2022 3:05 am
Enzedder wrote: Sat Sep 03, 2022 3:03 am No way I am spending time or money on that rabble at the moment. They have to earn it.
Yeah, I'm struggling to muster any enthusiasm at all tbh.
Actually knocking back a few beers and watching some league with Aussie mates, will keep an eye on the score, but well, Foster needs to go to win back the fair weather mob such as myself :thumbup:

Re: 2022 The Rugby Championship

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2022 6:51 am
by Gumboot
Go, All Blacks.

I guess... :|

Re: 2022 The Rugby Championship

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2022 7:05 am
by Ymx
Yep, yay ABs, I think !


Matera looked fired up watching the haka.

Re: 2022 The Rugby Championship

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2022 7:07 am
by OomStruisbaai
All Blacks look on fire

Re: 2022 The Rugby Championship

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2022 7:17 am
by ASMO
Pumas look very off colour, not really winning any part of the game.

Re: 2022 The Rugby Championship

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2022 7:20 am
by ASMO
Cant catch a cold at the moment, AB's must have better hand spray

Re: 2022 The Rugby Championship

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2022 7:21 am
by OomStruisbaai
Line outs is a mess

Re: 2022 The Rugby Championship

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2022 7:22 am
by OomStruisbaai
Matera is a legend