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Posted: **Sat Feb 06, 2021 7:56 pm**

clive wrote: ↑Sat Feb 06, 2021 7:36 pm
GogLais wrote: ↑Fri Feb 05, 2021 6:17 pm
clive wrote: ↑Fri Feb 05, 2021 5:54 pm Nothing seems to be going well for Pivac, why in the name fuckwittery did Josh go to a fucking pointless gender reveal party, when I first read that I thought what the Fuck is gender reveal party, never heard of it when I found out its trivial nature I could not believe anybody would 1 want to go to that shit and 2 put your international career in jeopardy.
Can you imagine sitting in front of Gats and Edwards and explaining that, Addams would have been told to fuck off for good.
anyway hard to see a win then a trip to Scotland we could lose the lot, if we a get battered up front then we're in a world of shit, hope the boys prove me wrong.
Bizarre. The well known phrase or saying is "Who cares as long as it's healthy?".
Do me a favour, A fucking gender reveal what if through his dumb actions he infected other team members, it has NOTHING to do with the health of a baby, the fact remains most of us are staying away from group gatherings, why should he be any different.

Admittedly I was a bit terse but we agree really.

Posted: **Sun Feb 07, 2021 9:19 am**

Seems Ball bare knuckled AWJ into oblivion, probably the only reason Rowlands will be adding to his welsh caps

Posted: **Sun Feb 07, 2021 9:22 am**

Theflier wrote: ↑Sun Feb 07, 2021 9:19 am Seems Ball bare knuckled AWJ into oblivion, probably the only reason Rowlands will be adding to his welsh caps

Don't think AWJ is out of the game is he?

Posted: **Sun Feb 07, 2021 9:25 am**

clive wrote: ↑Sun Feb 07, 2021 9:22 am
Theflier wrote: ↑Sun Feb 07, 2021 9:19 am Seems Ball bare knuckled AWJ into oblivion, probably the only reason Rowlands will be adding to his welsh caps
Don't think AWJ is out of the game is he?

No, but Ball is

Posted: **Sun Feb 07, 2021 9:37 am**

Theflier wrote: ↑Sun Feb 07, 2021 9:25 am
clive wrote: ↑Sun Feb 07, 2021 9:22 am
Theflier wrote: ↑Sun Feb 07, 2021 9:19 am Seems Ball bare knuckled AWJ into oblivion, probably the only reason Rowlands will be adding to his welsh caps
Don't think AWJ is out of the game is he?
No, but Ball is

I see.

Posted: **Sun Feb 07, 2021 10:52 am**

So AWJ is picking the team now as well.

We're going to get badly beaten today. Then up to Scotland

Posted: **Sun Feb 07, 2021 10:55 am**

frodder wrote: ↑Sun Feb 07, 2021 10:52 am So AWJ is picking the team now as well.

We're going to get badly beaten today. Then up to Scotland

Hope not, but it does make you wonder why Botham wasn't selected

Posted: **Sun Feb 07, 2021 11:39 am**

frodder wrote: ↑Sun Feb 07, 2021 10:52 am So AWJ is picking the team now as well.

We're going to get badly beaten today. Then up to Scotland

Everything is shaping up for a Irish win, could be the end of Pivac if we win just one game (Italy), sounds as he's gonna play a more conservative game plan, he will know his time with Wales will revolve around this game, really hope the boys can do it but its not looking good.and the game hasn't even started.

Posted: **Sun Feb 07, 2021 12:25 pm**

I hadn't realised that Ball isn't even on the bench, I can understand if he's a bit miffed about it. The Times has R Jones as LHP sub - do they mean R Carre or R Evans?

Posted: **Sun Feb 07, 2021 12:28 pm**

I've just realised - it's Rhodri Jones. What the hell - are the others injured?

Posted: **Sun Feb 07, 2021 12:38 pm**

GogLais wrote: ↑Sun Feb 07, 2021 12:28 pm I've just realised - it's Rhodri Jones. What the hell - are the others injured?

Carre's shit and humphreys cannot get out of him what Gats could, Smith may be injured, the only other choice is Domachowski, who is by a long way the best scrummaging LH Wales have had in a fair while, but Pivac doesn't like him after he ate the turks on toast.

Checked it, yes, Rhodri, Wyn and Carre are the LH options, my god...

We could feasibly see a team of Carre, Elias, Brown, Hill, Row(eng)lands, Macwhothefuck, Lydiate, Wainwright, Hardy, Sheedy, Amos, Johnny English, Nickynackynoo, 1p and the captain of the swansea riot club with this squad.

The man must go, there's some polynesians smoking joints on street corners waiting for him.

Posted: **Sun Feb 07, 2021 12:46 pm**

Theflier wrote: ↑Sun Feb 07, 2021 12:38 pm
GogLais wrote: ↑Sun Feb 07, 2021 12:28 pm I've just realised - it's Rhodri Jones. What the hell - are the others injured?
Carre's shit and humphreys cannot get out of him what Gats could, Smith may be injured, the only other choice is Domachowski, who is by a long way the best scrummaging LH Wales have had in a fair while, but Pivac doesn't like him after he ate the turks on toast.

Checked it, yes, Rhodri, Wyn and Carre are the LH options, my god...

We could feasibly see a team of Carre, Elias, Brown, Hill, Row(eng)lands, Macwhothefuck, Lydiate, Wainwright, Hardy, Sheedy, Amos, Johnny English, Nickynackynoo, 1p and the captain of the swansea riot club with this squad.

The man must go, there's some polynesians smoking joints on street corners waiting for him.

I know Rhodri can't help his build but when I saw him on telly a couple of weeks ago I thought who's this back-rower I don't recognise.

Posted: **Sun Feb 07, 2021 1:47 pm**

Ellis is back

Posted: **Sun Feb 07, 2021 2:03 pm**

Theflier wrote: ↑Sun Feb 07, 2021 12:38 pm
GogLais wrote: ↑Sun Feb 07, 2021 12:28 pm I've just realised - it's Rhodri Jones. What the hell - are the others injured?
Carre's shit and humphreys cannot get out of him what Gats could, Smith may be injured, the only other choice is Domachowski, who is by a long way the best scrummaging LH Wales have had in a fair while, but Pivac doesn't like him after he ate the turks on toast.

Checked it, yes, Rhodri, Wyn and Carre are the LH options, my god...

We could feasibly see a team of Carre, Elias, Brown, Hill, Row(eng)lands, Macwhothefuck, Lydiate, Wainwright, Hardy, Sheedy, Amos, Johnny English, Nickynackynoo, 1p and the captain of the swansea riot club with this squad.

The man must go, there's some polynesians smoking joints on street corners waiting for him.

I'm trying to think of a time when a Turk coaching set up was promoted to the top job that went to shit.

On the plus side when Pivac is fired the replacement won't come from the regions.

Posted: **Sun Feb 07, 2021 2:08 pm**

frodder wrote: ↑Sun Feb 07, 2021 2:03 pm
Theflier wrote: ↑Sun Feb 07, 2021 12:38 pm
GogLais wrote: ↑Sun Feb 07, 2021 12:28 pm I've just realised - it's Rhodri Jones. What the hell - are the others injured?
Carre's shit and humphreys cannot get out of him what Gats could, Smith may be injured, the only other choice is Domachowski, who is by a long way the best scrummaging LH Wales have had in a fair while, but Pivac doesn't like him after he ate the turks on toast.

Checked it, yes, Rhodri, Wyn and Carre are the LH options, my god...

We could feasibly see a team of Carre, Elias, Brown, Hill, Row(eng)lands, Macwhothefuck, Lydiate, Wainwright, Hardy, Sheedy, Amos, Johnny English, Nickynackynoo, 1p and the captain of the swansea riot club with this squad.

The man must go, there's some polynesians smoking joints on street corners waiting for him.
I'm trying to think of a time when a Turk coaching set up was promoted to the top job that went to shit.

On the plus side when Pivac is fired the replacement won't come from the regions.

Can't see them living fast again?

Posted: **Sun Feb 07, 2021 2:28 pm**

Theflier wrote: ↑Sun Feb 07, 2021 2:08 pm
frodder wrote: ↑Sun Feb 07, 2021 2:03 pm
Theflier wrote: ↑Sun Feb 07, 2021 12:38 pm

Carre's shit and humphreys cannot get out of him what Gats could, Smith may be injured, the only other choice is Domachowski, who is by a long way the best scrummaging LH Wales have had in a fair while, but Pivac doesn't like him after he ate the turks on toast.

Checked it, yes, Rhodri, Wyn and Carre are the LH options, my god...

We could feasibly see a team of Carre, Elias, Brown, Hill, Row(eng)lands, Macwhothefuck, Lydiate, Wainwright, Hardy, Sheedy, Amos, Johnny English, Nickynackynoo, 1p and the captain of the swansea riot club with this squad.

The man must go, there's some polynesians smoking joints on street corners waiting for him.
I'm trying to think of a time when a Turk coaching set up was promoted to the top job that went to shit.

On the plus side when Pivac is fired the replacement won't come from the regions.
Can't see them living fast again?

Can't see Young getting the gig. Lam or Cotter as an uneducated guess

Posted: **Sun Feb 07, 2021 5:20 pm**

We’re getting battered by the Scots next week

Hopefully this win doesn’t save Pivacs job but I fear it might

Posted: **Sun Feb 07, 2021 5:27 pm**

Also I thought LRZ was very good defensively today to be fair kept the shape well and always seemed to make the right decision

Posted: **Sun Feb 07, 2021 5:44 pm**

GogLais wrote: ↑Sun Feb 07, 2021 12:28 pm I've just realised - it's Rhodri Jones. What the hell - are the others injured?

Well in fairness he and Brown coped better than I feared. According to S4C Wyn Jones was MOTM. Surprising although there’s no other obvious candidate.

Posted: **Sun Feb 07, 2021 6:11 pm**

We got through that one!

Posted: **Sun Feb 07, 2021 6:31 pm**

bessantj wrote: ↑Sun Feb 07, 2021 6:11 pm We got through that one!

I was thinking all along of the 2011 RWC against the French - only lost by a point.

Posted: **Sun Feb 07, 2021 6:35 pm**

On the assumption Lydiate, LRZ, Tomos and Johnny average are injured that leaves us with

15 Sanjay
14 Feck knows
13 North
12 Tomkins or Watkin
11 your guess is as good as mine
10 should be Jarrod but won't be
9 Cawdor

Posted: **Sun Feb 07, 2021 6:46 pm**

frodder wrote: ↑Sun Feb 07, 2021 6:35 pm On the assumption Lydiate, LRZ, Tomos and Johnny average are injured that leaves us with

15 Sanjay
14 Feck knows
13 North
12 Tomkins or Watkin
11 your guess is as good as mine
10 should be Jarrod but won't be
9 Cawdor

Can guarantee he’ll pick

1/2p
Sanjay
North
Tompkins
Amos
Biggar
Cawdor

I’d put money on it for Scotland (again assuming those 3 are out)

Posted: **Sun Feb 07, 2021 7:19 pm**

Did LRZ have to go off? I know he didn’t go off straight away after the bang.

Posted: **Sun Feb 07, 2021 7:22 pm**

GogLais wrote: ↑Sun Feb 07, 2021 7:19 pm Did LRZ have to go off? I know he didn’t go off straight away after the bang.

Looked like a broken hand

Posted: **Sun Feb 07, 2021 7:25 pm**

frodder wrote: ↑Sun Feb 07, 2021 7:22 pm
GogLais wrote: ↑Sun Feb 07, 2021 7:19 pm Did LRZ have to go off? I know he didn’t go off straight away after the bang.
Looked like a broken hand

Ah, ok. I saw him still on a couple of minutes later but he was still clutching it. I also thought I saw Biggar on the pitch after Sheedy came on. Perhaps my eyes deceived me.

Posted: **Sun Feb 07, 2021 7:28 pm**

GogLais wrote: ↑Sun Feb 07, 2021 6:31 pm
bessantj wrote: ↑Sun Feb 07, 2021 6:11 pm We got through that one!
I was thinking all along of the 2011 RWC against the French - only lost by a point.

Gareth Davies needs a smack.

Posted: **Sun Feb 07, 2021 8:03 pm**

WOL reporting Tomos, Amos, Johnny English and Lydiate all out for next week

Sanjay comes back, maybe Willis and Botham

Posted: **Sun Feb 07, 2021 9:03 pm**

frodder wrote: ↑Sun Feb 07, 2021 8:03 pm WOL reporting Tomos, Amos, Johnny English and Lydiate all out for next week

Sanjay comes back, maybe Willis and Botham

How about LRZ? That's a ridiculous attrition rate.

Posted: **Mon Feb 08, 2021 10:36 am**

Positives: Scrum - Wyn Jones and Tomas Francis did a good job and Francis' tackle count in particular was outstanding.
We put some game time into the legs of the returning players, Alun Wyn, Ken, Josh Navidi.
Gethin's defence looks more like the Edwards defence.
Beard's maul defence.

Negatives: Injuries, lineout, wingers are still largely ornamental. Amos and Rees-Zammit had 4 touches apiece according to ESPN. That did include a try....but it tells you something about how little possession we're getting and the quality of it that we're not able to involve our wingers.

We're still spending a huge amount of time without the ball...against 14 men...at home.

Why did Gareth Davies kick that ball away?

Why did Dee not get on? When a coach won't sub a guy on, in a game where the forwards have got through so much work, and the other hooker's lineout wasn't stellar, what does it say? Also, he left Rees-Zammit on with what looked like a nasty wrist injury, which I would have understood to some extent had we had no subs, but again, seems odd.

I'm of course pleased with the win, but it's not looking great right now....

Posted: **Mon Feb 08, 2021 11:13 am**

I don't think there was anyone left to bring on for LRZ was there? Sheedy had already come on for Amos I think.

Posted: **Mon Feb 08, 2021 11:30 am**

penguin wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 10:36 am Positives: Scrum - Wyn Jones and Tomas Francis did a good job and Francis' tackle count in particular was outstanding.
We put some game time into the legs of the returning players, Alun Wyn, Ken, Josh Navidi.
Gethin's defence looks more like the Edwards defence.
Beard's maul defence.

Negatives: Injuries, lineout, wingers are still largely ornamental. Amos and Rees-Zammit had 4 touches apiece according to ESPN. That did include a try....but it tells you something about how little possession we're getting and the quality of it that we're not able to involve our wingers.

We're still spending a huge amount of time without the ball...against 14 men...at home.

Why did Gareth Davies kick that ball away?

Why did Dee not get on? When a coach won't sub a guy on, in a game where the forwards have got through so much work, and the other hooker's lineout wasn't stellar, what does it say? Also, he left Rees-Zammit on with what looked like a nasty wrist injury, which I would have understood to some extent had we had no subs, but again, seems odd.

I'm of course pleased with the win, but it's not looking great right now....

I thought Alan Wyn had a great game after looking a bit creaky the last few outings. Also Navidi looked great.

In the backs I liked Tomkins and North did pretty well.

I was quite shocked how bad Biggar was though, looked really out of sorts.

Posted: **Mon Feb 08, 2021 11:31 am**

dantedelew wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 11:13 am I don't think there was anyone left to bring on for LRZ was there? Sheedy had already come on for Amos I think.

Dee unused. I appreciate that subbing off Rees-Zammit for a hooker might have left us exposed...but not sure how effective LRZ would have been tackling with one arm either. Stick Dee in the backrow and put Tipuric out on the wing if need be, but when Wales made that many tackles to have a sub unused in the forwards is odd for me.

Posted: **Mon Feb 08, 2021 11:38 am**

Slick wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 11:30 am
I thought Alan Wyn had a great game after looking a bit creaky the last few outings. Also Navidi looked great.

In the backs I liked Tomkins and North did pretty well.

I was quite shocked how bad Biggar was though, looked really out of sorts.

We had so little ball that Biggar probably deserves, if not a pass, then a certain amount of slack. I'd certainly like to see what we'd look like with Jarrod having a chance to settle into the 10 shirt. We're not suddenly going to become NZ with a change of 10, but I think it would be a significantly more difficult prospect to defend against us, especially with lumps like Johnny Williams and George North outside him.

Such a shame Anscombe's been injured all this time.

If Pivac is not going to choose a more attacking 10, and Johnny Williams is out, how about a call up for Willis Halaholo? He'd certainly add something different to the mix.

Posted: **Mon Feb 08, 2021 12:12 pm**

Am I right in remembering that Ireland got their try after we lost another line out? With a competent line out we win that reasonably comfortably don’t we? I know that’s shades of if my auntie had bollox she’d be my uncle but please don’t deny me a straw to cling to.

Posted: **Mon Feb 08, 2021 1:06 pm**

GogLais wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 12:12 pm Am I right in remembering that Ireland got their try after we lost another line out? With a competent line out we win that reasonably comfortably don’t we? I know that’s shades of if my auntie had bollox she’d be my uncle but please don’t deny me a straw to cling to.

Yes it was a fecked up line out .....again

Posted: **Mon Feb 08, 2021 1:45 pm**

Slick wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 11:30 am
I thought Alan Wyn had a great game after looking a bit creaky the last few outings.

Was in Midi Olympique's team of the week (not weak as I almost instinctively typed) along with Tomas Francis, Tipuric and Blackeye.

Posted: **Mon Feb 08, 2021 1:47 pm**

GogLais wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 12:12 pm Am I right in remembering that Ireland got their try after we lost another line out? With a competent line out we win that reasonably comfortably don’t we? I know that’s shades of if my auntie had bollox she’d be my uncle but please don’t deny me a straw to cling to.

You brought Owens in to shore up the scrum but then the lineout went to sh*t. So, you are correct but seemingly only hypothetically.

Posted: **Mon Feb 08, 2021 2:47 pm**

Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 1:47 pm
GogLais wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 12:12 pm Am I right in remembering that Ireland got their try after we lost another line out? With a competent line out we win that reasonably comfortably don’t we? I know that’s shades of if my auntie had bollox she’d be my uncle but please don’t deny me a straw to cling to.
You brought Owens in to shore up the scrum but then the lineout went to sh*t. So, you are correct but seemingly only hypothetically.

No our line out was even worse, if possible, without Owens

Owens has better darts than the other Dyspraxic dartists tbh

Posted: **Mon Feb 08, 2021 3:22 pm**

The other thing that bothers me about Gareth Davies kicking the ball away (apart from the complete lack of situational awareness) was the fact he chose to kick rather than run a decent opportunity. Ignore the context (if you can, I know it's hard - painfully stupid as it was) and as he comes off the scrum he's got men outside him (Biggar and Halfpenny), Navidi inside with Faletau just behind him. The Irish have 2 players, Gibson-Park and Larmour (I think), ahead of him so already he's got options. If he runs at Gibson-Park to stick him then it should be a simple pass either way to open the Irish up, and leave them bearing down on the 22 with numbers and mainly just Keenan coming across to cover. Not a guaranteed try but a great opportunity with some simple hands.

If that was the first minute rather than the 81st, and we weren't fixated on the contextual stupidity, and the poor execution of the kick, we might have been more critical of the more general inability to play what's ahead of him.

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