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Edinburgh name team for warm up match v Connacht.

15. Nathan Sweeney
14. Ross McCann (GB Rugby Sevens)
13. Mark Bennett CAPTAIN
12. Matt Currie
11. Wes Goosen
10. Cammy Scott
9. Charlie Shiel
1. Boan Venter
2. Adam McBurney
3. Angus Williams
4. Glen Young
5. Jamie Hodgson
6 Tom Dodd
7. Connor Boyle
8. Cameron Neild

Replacements

Robin Hislop, Mikey Jones, Patrick Harrison, Bobby Bratton (Watsonians), Craig Miller (Ayrshire Bulls), Euan McVie, Alfie Scopes (Watsonians), Liam McConnell, Freddie Douglas, Tom Currie, Scott Steele, Charlie Savala, Jordan Edmunds (GB Rugby Sevens), Chris Dean, Matt Davidson (Heriot’s Rugby), Finn Douglas, Liam Richman (Heriot’s Rugby)

They also have injuries

Luan de Bruin (back), Dave Cherry (concussion), Mitch Eadie (calf), Jake Henry (knee), James Lang (calf), Ben Muncaster (knee), Harry Paterson (ankle), Marshall Sykes (hand), Tim Swiel (ankle), Ben Vellacott.

Plus those away at RWC

Ewan Ashman, Javan Sebastian, Pierre Schoeman, WP Nel, Sam Skinner, Grant Gilchrist, Luke Crosbie, Jamie Ritchie, Hamish Watson, Viliame Mata, Ben Healy, Blair Kinghorn, Darcy Graham, Duhan van der Merwe, Emiliano Boffelli.

In total I make that 15 team, 17 replacements, 10 injured and 15 at RWC, that is 57 players in total. Ok 7 come from clubs or 7s squads but that is some squad size.
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dpedin wrote: Thu Sep 28, 2023 1:23 pm Edinburgh name team for warm up match v Connacht.

15. Nathan Sweeney
14. Ross McCann (GB Rugby Sevens)
13. Mark Bennett CAPTAIN
12. Matt Currie
11. Wes Goosen
10. Cammy Scott
9. Charlie Shiel
1. Boan Venter
2. Adam McBurney
3. Angus Williams
4. Glen Young
5. Jamie Hodgson
6 Tom Dodd
7. Connor Boyle
8. Cameron Neild

Replacements

Robin Hislop, Mikey Jones, Patrick Harrison, Bobby Bratton (Watsonians), Craig Miller (Ayrshire Bulls), Euan McVie, Alfie Scopes (Watsonians), Liam McConnell, Freddie Douglas, Tom Currie, Scott Steele, Charlie Savala, Jordan Edmunds (GB Rugby Sevens), Chris Dean, Matt Davidson (Heriot’s Rugby), Finn Douglas, Liam Richman (Heriot’s Rugby)

They also have injuries

Luan de Bruin (back), Dave Cherry (concussion), Mitch Eadie (calf), Jake Henry (knee), James Lang (calf), Ben Muncaster (knee), Harry Paterson (ankle), Marshall Sykes (hand), Tim Swiel (ankle), Ben Vellacott.

Plus those away at RWC

Ewan Ashman, Javan Sebastian, Pierre Schoeman, WP Nel, Sam Skinner, Grant Gilchrist, Luke Crosbie, Jamie Ritchie, Hamish Watson, Viliame Mata, Ben Healy, Blair Kinghorn, Darcy Graham, Duhan van der Merwe, Emiliano Boffelli.

In total I make that 15 team, 17 replacements, 10 injured and 15 at RWC, that is 57 players in total. Ok 7 come from clubs or 7s squads but that is some squad size.
Some of those are academy as well. 5 by my count - McVie, McConnell, Freddie Douglas, Currie, Finn Douglas. Makes a squad size of 45 which I think is in line with past years.
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Team for Romania:
15. Smith
14. Graham
13. Harris
12. Redpath
11. Steyn
10. Healy
9. Price
8. Fagerson
7. Watson
6. Crosbie
5.Gilchrist
4. Skinner
3. Sebastian
2. Ashman
1. Bhatti

Reps: Matthews, Sutherland, Nel, Cummings, Darge, Horne, Kinghorn, Jones

So, basically a 2nd XV plus Darcy?
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More or less the team I picked except I had wee George starting
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Yr Alban wrote: Thu Sep 28, 2023 2:23 pm Team for Romania:
15. Smith
14. Graham
13. Harris
12. Redpath
11. Steyn
10. Healy
9. Price
8. Fagerson
7. Watson
6. Crosbie
5.Gilchrist
4. Skinner
3. Sebastian
2. Ashman
1. Bhatti

Reps: Matthews, Sutherland, Nel, Cummings, Darge, Horne, Kinghorn, Jones

So, basically a 2nd XV plus Darcy?
Lucky Darcy - a huge chance to become Scotland's all time 2nd or 3rd highest scorer. Bad luck to Duhan on missing out!
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KingBlairhorn wrote: Thu Sep 28, 2023 2:42 pm [quote="Yr Alban" post_id=313167 time=<a href="tel:1695910996">1695910996</a> user_id=87]
Team for Romania:
15. Smith
14. Graham
13. Harris
12. Redpath
11. Steyn
10. Healy
9. Price
8. Fagerson
7. Watson
6. Crosbie
5.Gilchrist
4. Skinner
3. Sebastian
2. Ashman
1. Bhatti

Reps: Matthews, Sutherland, Nel, Cummings, Darge, Horne, Kinghorn, Jones

So, basically a 2nd XV plus Darcy?
Lucky Darcy - a huge chance to become Scotland's all time 2nd or 3rd highest scorer. Bad luck to Duhan on missing out!
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Johnny Matthews might knock him back down a place if he gets more than 10 mins 😉
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Yeah, it was a fairly straight forward selection, I think I had Duhan starting but then I wasn't sure if it would be him or Steyn

I'd be surprised if Gilcho doesn't start against Ireland, Kinghorn probably won't get on the park against Romania, I'd be tempted to keep him and Jones for injury emergency only
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Tichtheid wrote: Thu Sep 28, 2023 3:34 pm Yeah, it was a fairly straight forward selection, I think I had Duhan starting but then I wasn't sure if it would be him or Steyn

I'd be surprised if Gilcho doesn't start against Ireland, Kinghorn probably won't get on the park against Romania, I'd be tempted to keep him and Jones for injury emergency only
Yup, you called it. I’m quite surprised but it’s a fun looking team
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Tichtheid wrote: Thu Sep 28, 2023 3:34 pm Yeah, it was a fairly straight forward selection, I think I had Duhan starting but then I wasn't sure if it would be him or Steyn

I'd be surprised if Gilcho doesn't start against Ireland, Kinghorn probably won't get on the park against Romania, I'd be tempted to keep him and Jones for injury emergency only
I’m actually surprised. I suppose Toony had the choice of giving the first team another run out together, or picking all the reserves. I expected him to do the former and he did the latter.
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There are a good few in that team for whom this is their World Cup, they should be going all out 1, to do their very best for the team, 2 to show that they are not just dirt trackers they are very good players, 3 to show Toonie that he should have picked them in the first place.
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Same approach as 2019 then mass changes between games 2 and 3 and then 3 and 4 with a different centre partnership in each game.

Question isn't whether we can beat Romania, it is whether the first team attack can come together v Ireland. 4 years ago it didn't v Japan.
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Summer tours 2024

Wales v Australia
England v NZ
France v Argentina
Ireland v South Africa
Scotland v Fiji, Samoa, Tonga
Italy v Canada, USA
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Tichtheid wrote: Thu Sep 28, 2023 7:18 pm Summer tours 2024

Wales v Australia
England v NZ
France v Argentina
Ireland v South Africa
Scotland v Fiji, Samoa, Tonga
Italy v Canada, USA
The Spackertour
Fading Glories
This one should actually be good
Bosh Smash Ug
Getting smashed up on the beach
Mafia tour.
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Tichtheid wrote: Thu Sep 28, 2023 7:18 pm Summer tours 2024

Wales v Australia
England v NZ
France v Argentina
Ireland v South Africa
Scotland v Fiji, Samoa, Tonga
Italy v Canada, USA
Given 2025 is a Lions year I can't see us touring NZ or SA. Will likely be Argentina again ot Japan?
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Tichtheid wrote: Thu Sep 28, 2023 7:18 pm Summer tours 2024

Wales v Australia
England v NZ
France v Argentina
Ireland v South Africa
Scotland v Fiji, Samoa, Tonga
Italy v Canada, USA
IMO Any team doing NZ or Aus should do a PI team
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westport wrote: Fri Sep 29, 2023 9:15 am
Tichtheid wrote: Thu Sep 28, 2023 7:18 pm Summer tours 2024

Wales v Australia
England v NZ
France v Argentina
Ireland v South Africa
Scotland v Fiji, Samoa, Tonga
Italy v Canada, USA
IMO Any team doing NZ or Aus should do a PI team
Yes, will be interesting to see if France play Uruguay/Chile/Brazil - particularly if they are going as WC winners. Also Italy and Ireland could have an interesting stop somewhere
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Slick wrote: Fri Sep 29, 2023 9:20 am
westport wrote: Fri Sep 29, 2023 9:15 am
Tichtheid wrote: Thu Sep 28, 2023 7:18 pm Summer tours 2024

Wales v Australia
England v NZ
France v Argentina
Ireland v South Africa
Scotland v Fiji, Samoa, Tonga
Italy v Canada, USA
IMO Any team doing NZ or Aus should do a PI team
Yes, will be interesting to see if France play Uruguay/Chile/Brazil - particularly if they are going as WC winners. Also Italy and Ireland could have an interesting stop somewhere
They won't.

Scotland and Italy play tier2s on a summer tour because the tier1s don't see either as a commercially viable 3 match series. And the other tier1s don't play the tier2s on a stop for that reason.

It's a shame really as I'm sure the players would love a week in Fiji coming home from NZ but you need to sort the global calendar for that. They don't love another match after a long season.
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I like neeps wrote: Fri Sep 29, 2023 9:56 am
Slick wrote: Fri Sep 29, 2023 9:20 am
westport wrote: Fri Sep 29, 2023 9:15 am

IMO Any team doing NZ or Aus should do a PI team
Yes, will be interesting to see if France play Uruguay/Chile/Brazil - particularly if they are going as WC winners. Also Italy and Ireland could have an interesting stop somewhere
They won't.

Scotland and Italy play tier2s on a summer tour because the tier1s don't see either as a commercially viable 3 match series. And the other tier1s don't play the tier2s on a stop for that reason.

It's a shame really as I'm sure the players would love a week in Fiji coming home from NZ but you need to sort the global calendar for that. They don't love another match after a long season.
I'll emphasise again that Scotland not having three match series against the big SH teams was primarily our decision.
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Team out for the big game on Saturday

Considering the injury list ( god knows what they have been doing in pre season training)

Great to see RT10 starting -hope he can stay injury free this season

Interesting to see how the young lock pairing of Samuel & Ferrie go-looks like Williamson must be injured.

Time for some of the youngsters to put up their hands here

Surprise , Surprise - looks like light rain on Saturday night , hey-ho - start as you mean to go on

1 Nathan McBeth
2 Angus Fraser
3 Lucio Sordoni
4 Alex Samuel
5 Euan Ferrie
6 Gregor Brown
7 Ally Miller
8 Henco Venter
9 Jamie Dobie (C)
10 Ross Thompson
11 Kyle Rowe
12 Tom Jordan
13 Duncan Munn
14 Sebastian Cancelliere
15 Facundo Cordero

16 Corey Tait
17 Tom Banatvala
18 Callum Norrie
19 Ruaraidh Hart
20 Jonny Morris
21 Ben Afshar
22 Duncan Weir
23 Ben Salmon
24 Kerr Johnston
25 Luca Bardelli
26 Ollie Horne
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Dogbert wrote: Fri Sep 29, 2023 12:21 pm Team out for the big game on Saturday

Considering the injury list ( god knows what they have been doing in pre season training)

Great to see RT10 starting -hope he can stay injury free this season

Interesting to see how the young lock pairing of Samuel & Ferrie go-looks like Williamson must be injured.

Time for some of the youngsters to put up their hands here

Surprise , Surprise - looks like light rain on Saturday night , hey-ho - start as you mean to go on

1 Nathan McBeth
2 Angus Fraser
3 Lucio Sordoni
4 Alex Samuel
5 Euan Ferrie
6 Gregor Brown
7 Ally Miller
8 Henco Venter
9 Jamie Dobie (C)
10 Ross Thompson
11 Kyle Rowe
12 Tom Jordan
13 Duncan Munn
14 Sebastian Cancelliere
15 Facundo Cordero

16 Corey Tait
17 Tom Banatvala
18 Callum Norrie
19 Ruaraidh Hart
20 Jonny Morris
21 Ben Afshar
22 Duncan Weir
23 Ben Salmon
24 Kerr Johnston
25 Luca Bardelli
26 Ollie Horne

Kyle Rowe could be phenomenal for Glasgow, he will really fit the style.

Ally Miller has been unlucky, he was often Edinburgh's best back row on the park before he moved over. Afshar came onto good form in U20s after a shaky start, very disappointing campaign, though.

edit, I've just noticed Jonny Morris among the subs, he looked like a good prospect
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Tichtheid wrote: Fri Sep 29, 2023 12:44 pm
Dogbert wrote: Fri Sep 29, 2023 12:21 pm Team out for the big game on Saturday

Considering the injury list ( god knows what they have been doing in pre season training)

Great to see RT10 starting -hope he can stay injury free this season

Interesting to see how the young lock pairing of Samuel & Ferrie go-looks like Williamson must be injured.

Time for some of the youngsters to put up their hands here

Surprise , Surprise - looks like light rain on Saturday night , hey-ho - start as you mean to go on

1 Nathan McBeth
2 Angus Fraser
3 Lucio Sordoni
4 Alex Samuel
5 Euan Ferrie
6 Gregor Brown
7 Ally Miller
8 Henco Venter
9 Jamie Dobie (C)
10 Ross Thompson
11 Kyle Rowe
12 Tom Jordan
13 Duncan Munn
14 Sebastian Cancelliere
15 Facundo Cordero

16 Corey Tait
17 Tom Banatvala
18 Callum Norrie
19 Ruaraidh Hart
20 Jonny Morris
21 Ben Afshar
22 Duncan Weir
23 Ben Salmon
24 Kerr Johnston
25 Luca Bardelli
26 Ollie Horne

Kyle Rowe could be phenomenal for Glasgow, he will really fit the style.

Ally Miller has been unlucky, he was often Edinburgh's best back row on the park before he moved over. Afshar came onto good form in U20s after a shaky start, very disappointing campaign, though.

edit, I've just noticed Jonny Morris among the subs, he looked like a good prospect
He's animal magic apparently...
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topofthemoon wrote: Thu Sep 28, 2023 12:15 pm Match preview part 1 for Scotland v Romania:

https://www.scottishrugbyblog.co.uk/202 ... view-pt-i/
And part 2:

https://www.scottishrugbyblog.co.uk/202 ... -to-heads/
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Decent looking Connacht team for the Embra match.

It'll be interesting to see how the new coaching team in Connacht go.
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topofthemoon wrote: Fri Sep 29, 2023 2:44 pm
Tichtheid wrote: Fri Sep 29, 2023 12:44 pm
Dogbert wrote: Fri Sep 29, 2023 12:21 pm Team out for the big game on Saturday

Considering the injury list ( god knows what they have been doing in pre season training)

Great to see RT10 starting -hope he can stay injury free this season

Interesting to see how the young lock pairing of Samuel & Ferrie go-looks like Williamson must be injured.

Time for some of the youngsters to put up their hands here

Surprise , Surprise - looks like light rain on Saturday night , hey-ho - start as you mean to go on

1 Nathan McBeth
2 Angus Fraser
3 Lucio Sordoni
4 Alex Samuel
5 Euan Ferrie
6 Gregor Brown
7 Ally Miller
8 Henco Venter
9 Jamie Dobie (C)
10 Ross Thompson
11 Kyle Rowe
12 Tom Jordan
13 Duncan Munn
14 Sebastian Cancelliere
15 Facundo Cordero

16 Corey Tait
17 Tom Banatvala
18 Callum Norrie
19 Ruaraidh Hart
20 Jonny Morris
21 Ben Afshar
22 Duncan Weir
23 Ben Salmon
24 Kerr Johnston
25 Luca Bardelli
26 Ollie Horne

Kyle Rowe could be phenomenal for Glasgow, he will really fit the style.

Ally Miller has been unlucky, he was often Edinburgh's best back row on the park before he moved over. Afshar came onto good form in U20s after a shaky start, very disappointing campaign, though.

edit, I've just noticed Jonny Morris among the subs, he looked like a good prospect
He's animal magic apparently...
Agree about Kyle Rowe, he has looked an exciting player and now fully fit he will be an excellent acquisition. Good luck to the lad, he deserves it.
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Embra went in 19 - 7 ahead at the break, we've got pretty much a new team out for the second half including a lot of academy players
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in case anyone is going to watch the highlights
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Well that was a game of two halves.

On the bright side I got a ticket for Pulp in Princes St Gardens on Hogmanay today.
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I really wonnder what was learned from that game. Scott in the first half looked better than Savala at 10 in the second, but the second half backs were hamstrung by what was going on in front of them. A few players only played 20mins as they were playing Super 6 over the weekend.

My former prop son was surprised and impressed by the way the young props held up given that he watches them in Super 6 and was not very confident.
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weegie01 wrote: Sat Sep 30, 2023 11:22 am I really wonnder what was learned from that game. Scott in the first half looked better than Savala at 10 in the second, but the second half backs were hamstrung by what was going on in front of them. A few players only played 20mins as they were playing Super 6 over the weekend.

My former prop son was surprised and impressed by the way the young props held up given that he watches them in Super 6 and was not very confident.
I thought that in the first half, the defensive structure and organisation was really good, apart from the brain fart for their trt off a scruffy line out. Second half a very different story.
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Anyone know if Boff is injured?
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Biffer wrote: Sat Sep 30, 2023 12:48 pm
weegie01 wrote: Sat Sep 30, 2023 11:22 am I really wonnder what was learned from that game. Scott in the first half looked better than Savala at 10 in the second, but the second half backs were hamstrung by what was going on in front of them. A few players only played 20mins as they were playing Super 6 over the weekend.

My former prop son was surprised and impressed by the way the young props held up given that he watches them in Super 6 and was not very confident.
I thought that in the first half, the defensive structure and organisation was really good, apart from the brain fart for their trt off a scruffy line out. Second half a very different story.
what happened?
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Biffer wrote: Fri Sep 29, 2023 8:55 pm Well that was a game of two halves.

On the bright side I got a ticket for Pulp in Princes St Gardens on Hogmanay today.
That will be awesome, love a bit of pulp.

Was meant to be getting some free tickets for the kids and I to go and watch the ladies this evening but they haven’t turned up 🙁
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Simian wrote: Sat Sep 30, 2023 1:15 pm
Biffer wrote: Sat Sep 30, 2023 12:48 pm
weegie01 wrote: Sat Sep 30, 2023 11:22 am I really wonnder what was learned from that game. Scott in the first half looked better than Savala at 10 in the second, but the second half backs were hamstrung by what was going on in front of them. A few players only played 20mins as they were playing Super 6 over the weekend.

My former prop son was surprised and impressed by the way the young props held up given that he watches them in Super 6 and was not very confident.
I thought that in the first half, the defensive structure and organisation was really good, apart from the brain fart for their trt off a scruffy line out. Second half a very different story.
what happened?
Changed the entire side. Academy players, guys from the Super 6.
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
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Biffer wrote: Sat Sep 30, 2023 1:33 pm
Simian wrote: Sat Sep 30, 2023 1:15 pm
Biffer wrote: Sat Sep 30, 2023 12:48 pm

I thought that in the first half, the defensive structure and organisation was really good, apart from the brain fart for their trt off a scruffy line out. Second half a very different story.
what happened?
Changed the entire side. Academy players, guys from the Super 6.
ah, got you.
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Well, I got stuck in Embra. Was at a conference in Glasgow, came through for one night to see my son at uni, then the whole West coast line was shut down on Friday. And today’s a strike day, so I’m going to have to try and squeeze onto a train tomorrow morning.

On the plus side, heading to the pub with the son to watch the game later.
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What are the good pubs to watch a game in Edinburgh these days?
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Tichtheid wrote: Sat Sep 30, 2023 1:10 pm Anyone know if Boff is injured?
Assumed he was just being rested.
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Tichtheid wrote: Sat Sep 30, 2023 2:39 pm What are the good pubs to watch a game in Edinburgh these days?
Been a while since I’ve done it! Was considering the Pear Tree this evening but their main screen is outside, and I don’t think it’s the weather for it. Meeting my son at Bar 50, but might move to Three Sisters, Cold Town House, The Tron or anywhere in the vicinity!
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Decent enough pre season game so far for the good guys

28 - 3 up at Half time

Two try's for Rowe , one each for Cancelliere & Dobie
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Yr Alban wrote: Sat Sep 30, 2023 6:03 pm
Tichtheid wrote: Sat Sep 30, 2023 2:39 pm What are the good pubs to watch a game in Edinburgh these days?
Been a while since I’ve done it! Was considering the Pear Tree this evening but their main screen is outside, and I don’t think it’s the weather for it. Meeting my son at Bar 50, but might move to Three Sisters, Cold Town House, The Tron or anywhere in the vicinity!

I think the Embra fans group use Cold Town House as a venue when they are playing away. I was in the Grassmarket a few weeks ago and it all looked a bit shabby, not what I remembered at all.
Not Cold Town House, though, that looked quite good.

The Pear Tree was a big favourite of mine, about a hundred years ago
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