I love the "we" have defeated" part, anyone would think the Russians and Americans had nothing to do in the war except sit back and watch the Little Englanders sweep all before them.robmatic wrote: ↑Mon Dec 21, 2020 11:36 amI'd have a lot more respect for the Brexit position if its main proponents weren't so obviously thick.Insane_Homer wrote: ↑Mon Dec 21, 2020 11:15 am
The complete lack of self awareness from a man who couln't outwit a napkin.
Meanwhile they're wondering how these EU nations are acting with soverignty over their borders.
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Gotta love how it's always "we" and not our grandparents, forefathers etc as if they personally had a hand in it. And this from a Royal Marine dropout.ASMO wrote: ↑Mon Dec 21, 2020 12:05 pmI love the "we" have defeated" part, anyone would think the Russians and Americans had nothing to do in the war except sit back and watch the Little Englanders sweep all before them.robmatic wrote: ↑Mon Dec 21, 2020 11:36 amI'd have a lot more respect for the Brexit position if its main proponents weren't so obviously thick.Insane_Homer wrote: ↑Mon Dec 21, 2020 11:15 am
The complete lack of self awareness from a man who couln't outwit a napkin.
Meanwhile they're wondering how these EU nations are acting with soverignty over their borders.
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And they never banged on about defeating the Hun because they witnessed just how bloody awful it was, as opposed to viewing it through the lens of Commando comics and war films where people who get shot just clutch themselves and fall over.
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Hal Jordan wrote: ↑Mon Dec 21, 2020 1:20 pm And they never banged on about defeating the Hun because they witnessed just how bloody awful it was, as opposed to viewing it through the lens of Commando comics and war films where people who get shot just clutch themselves and fall over.
and, many, many more
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“Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true.”
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We've just spent 5 years at war with each other, devalued the £ by 20%, savaged our economy, quit the world's largest free trade zone, created a mountain of red tape & flushed £200bn down the drain to 'control our borders'. 6 EU states just did it in 24 hours with a press release
“Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true.”
Insane_Homer wrote: ↑Mon Dec 21, 2020 5:06 pmWe've just spent 5 years at war with each other, devalued the £ by 20%, savaged our economy, quit the world's largest free trade zone, created a mountain of red tape & flushed £200bn down the drain to 'control our borders'. 6 EU states just did it in 24 hours with a press release
I find this a bit trite - closing borders on an emergency basis is not the same as permanently opting out of one of the pillars of the single market.
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Insane_Homer wrote: ↑Mon Dec 21, 2020 5:06 pmWe've just spent 5 years at war with each other, devalued the £ by 20%, savaged our economy, quit the world's largest free trade zone, created a mountain of red tape & flushed £200bn down the drain to 'control our borders'. 6 EU states just did it in 24 hours with a press release
Have the boats stopped arriving on the Kent coast then?
What the hell are we paying Farage for??Bimbowomxn wrote: ↑Mon Dec 21, 2020 5:20 pmHave the boats stopped arriving on the Kent coast then?Insane_Homer wrote: ↑Mon Dec 21, 2020 5:06 pmWe've just spent 5 years at war with each other, devalued the £ by 20%, savaged our economy, quit the world's largest free trade zone, created a mountain of red tape & flushed £200bn down the drain to 'control our borders'. 6 EU states just did it in 24 hours with a press release
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I presume you mean boats with refugees, not fish or ferries. So... Remind us, what's the difference now we've left the EU?
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Insane_Homer wrote: ↑Mon Dec 21, 2020 8:23 pmI presume you mean boats with refugees, not fish or ferries. So... Remind us, what's the difference now we've left the EU?
I don’t really care. Your constant framing of a motive is all I’m referring too. It’s nasty and dishonest ....
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To top up the Russian money, it's a hard life for the chapAli Cadoo wrote: ↑Mon Dec 21, 2020 5:32 pmWhat the hell are we paying Farage for??
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One of the scum convicted today was returned from Romania on a European arrest warrant; & there was seamless cooperation between 5 or 6 different police forces to bring all those involved to justice; come January, all that gets much, much harder; as repeatedly stated by the UK Police, & denied by the Tories.Insane_Homer wrote: ↑Mon Dec 21, 2020 8:23 pmI presume you mean boats with refugees, not fish or ferries. So... Remind us, what's the difference now we've left the EU?
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You don't care now? Weird, since you brought it upBimbowomxn wrote: ↑Mon Dec 21, 2020 8:43 pm I don’t really care. Your constant framing of a motive is all I’m referring too. It’s nasty and dishonest ....
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I saw on twitter this:
"The truckers don’t have toilet facilities and are dependent on volunteers for food. And we’re expected to believe this crisis shows we’re “ready” for a no deal exit."
It is a point what on earth have they been doing?
A point not really put out there by the media tbh.I like neeps wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 10:27 amI saw on twitter this:
"The truckers don’t have toilet facilities and are dependent on volunteers for food. And we’re expected to believe this crisis shows we’re “ready” for a no deal exit."
It is a point what on earth have they been doing?
This really is a monumental lack of planning ahead of the January deadline.
They are getting more brazen with their lies by the day.
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Eh, come on - you seriously expect measures to be fully in place BEFORE the necessary date? This is BoJo's Britain here, nothing more needed than a bit of chutzpah and va va voom.
Yeah, you’re right. It just needs Johnson to tell them to buckle down and pull together and I’m sure none of them will need a shit for a week.tabascoboy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 11:04 am Eh, come on - you seriously expect measures to be fully in place BEFORE the necessary date? This is BoJo's Britain here, nothing more needed than a bit of chutzpah and va va voom.
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
So with over 4000 lorries parked up in Kent and 1,000's standing idle at hauliers around the country due to a couple of days cross channel closures. How long will that mayhem last if there's no deal? Months?I like neeps wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 10:27 amI saw on twitter this:
"The truckers don’t have toilet facilities and are dependent on volunteers for food. And we’re expected to believe this crisis shows we’re “ready” for a no deal exit."
It is a point what on earth have they been doing?
Vassalage rears it's scrabbly head again over Boris' capitulation with Gibraltar.
Shameful really, they mightbas well just hand the keys to the rock over to the Spaniards.
What use is a blue passport if you have to show them to enter a Crown Territory when EU citizens can swan straight in.
Shameful really, they mightbas well just hand the keys to the rock over to the Spaniards.
What use is a blue passport if you have to show them to enter a Crown Territory when EU citizens can swan straight in.
Would this be the Brexit supporter Lord Lawson?
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Serves the stupid fecker right. I honestly think these guys thought they would have been above the law.
However very jealous about having a house in Cahor. Stopped there on a cycling trip when I was a student and remember drinking lots of the local red wine and eating roast chicken and fresh french bread on bank of river close to the bridge. Beautiful areas. Just fantastic! Suffered the next day - roasting hot and cycling up one feckin hill after another.
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Farage predictably enraged, and C4s Faux Queens Xmas message might just sent him into full on apoplexy
So despite all the leaks to the press last night that there would be an announcement of a deal first thing, still no deal agreed yet.
Analysts generally agreeing that it is a fairly "thin" deal that will be agreed in the end
Analysts generally agreeing that it is a fairly "thin" deal that will be agreed in the end
There will of course be major challenges in the future relationship. Ultimately the EU achieved their main goals from Brexit, and the UK arguably did not. The EU successfully avoided a border on the island of Ireland and protected the single market from significant cherry picking. The UK succeeded in the headline goal of leaving the EU, but failed as proponents had expected to retain the benefits of membership without incurring the costs, and more recently in overturning any of the withdrawal agreement as the staunch Brexiteers had hoped. The EU also looks stronger for demonstrating so far that leaving is not an easy option, while the UK’s ability to maintain trade relations while escaping ‘the Brussels Effect’ of following EU regulations is going to be tested, business for example will wish to reverse the decision to leave some European regulatory agencies.
SaintK wrote: ↑Thu Dec 24, 2020 1:21 pm So despite all the leaks to the press last night that there would be an announcement of a deal first thing, still no deal agreed yet.
Analysts generally agreeing that it is a fairly "thin" deal that will be agreed in the endThere will of course be major challenges in the future relationship. Ultimately the EU achieved their main goals from Brexit, and the UK arguably did not. The EU successfully avoided a border on the island of Ireland and protected the single market from significant cherry picking. The UK succeeded in the headline goal of leaving the EU, but failed as proponents had expected to retain the benefits of membership without incurring the costs, and more recently in overturning any of the withdrawal agreement as the staunch Brexiteers had hoped. The EU also looks stronger for demonstrating so far that leaving is not an easy option, while the UK’s ability to maintain trade relations while escaping ‘the Brussels Effect’ of following EU regulations is going to be tested, business for example will wish to reverse the decision to leave some European regulatory agencies.
Its 99.9% there - I don't think it will be allowed to be derailed now.
We will get hot takes of the deal from all sides of all which will shockingly match the authors pre existing views.