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robmatic wrote: ↑Mon Dec 21, 2020 11:36 am

Insane_Homer wrote: ↑Mon Dec 21, 2020 11:15 am

The complete lack of self awareness from a man who couln't outwit a napkin.

Meanwhile they're wondering how these EU nations are acting with soverignty over their borders.

I'd have a lot more respect for the Brexit position if its main proponents weren't so obviously thick.

ASMO wrote: ↑Mon Dec 21, 2020 12:05 pm

robmatic wrote: ↑Mon Dec 21, 2020 11:36 am

Insane_Homer wrote: ↑Mon Dec 21, 2020 11:15 am

The complete lack of self awareness from a man who couln't outwit a napkin.

Meanwhile they're wondering how these EU nations are acting with soverignty over their borders.

I'd have a lot more respect for the Brexit position if its main proponents weren't so obviously thick.

I love the "we" have defeated" part, anyone would think the Russians and Americans had nothing to do in the war except sit back and watch the Little Englanders sweep all before them.

Hal Jordan wrote: ↑Mon Dec 21, 2020 1:20 pm And they never banged on about defeating the Hun because they witnessed just how bloody awful it was, as opposed to viewing it through the lens of Commando comics and war films where people who get shot just clutch themselves and fall over.

We've just spent 5 years at war with each other, devalued the £ by 20%, savaged our economy, quit the world's largest free trade zone, created a mountain of red tape & flushed £200bn down the drain to 'control our borders'. 6 EU states just did it in 24 hours with a press release

Insane_Homer wrote: ↑Mon Dec 21, 2020 5:06 pm

We've just spent 5 years at war with each other, devalued the £ by 20%, savaged our economy, quit the world's largest free trade zone, created a mountain of red tape & flushed £200bn down the drain to 'control our borders'. 6 EU states just did it in 24 hours with a press release

Insane_Homer wrote: ↑Mon Dec 21, 2020 5:06 pm

We've just spent 5 years at war with each other, devalued the £ by 20%, savaged our economy, quit the world's largest free trade zone, created a mountain of red tape & flushed £200bn down the drain to 'control our borders'. 6 EU states just did it in 24 hours with a press release

Bimbowomxn wrote: ↑Mon Dec 21, 2020 5:20 pm

Insane_Homer wrote: ↑Mon Dec 21, 2020 5:06 pm

We've just spent 5 years at war with each other, devalued the £ by 20%, savaged our economy, quit the world's largest free trade zone, created a mountain of red tape & flushed £200bn down the drain to 'control our borders'. 6 EU states just did it in 24 hours with a press release

Have the boats stopped arriving on the Kent coast then?

Bimbowomxn wrote: ↑Mon Dec 21, 2020 5:20 pm Have the boats stopped arriving on the Kent coast then?

Insane_Homer wrote: ↑Mon Dec 21, 2020 8:23 pm

Bimbowomxn wrote: ↑Mon Dec 21, 2020 5:20 pm Have the boats stopped arriving on the Kent coast then?

I presume you mean boats with refugees, not fish or ferries. So... Remind us, what's the difference now we've left the EU?

Ali Cadoo wrote: ↑Mon Dec 21, 2020 5:32 pm

Bimbowomxn wrote: ↑Mon Dec 21, 2020 5:20 pm

Insane_Homer wrote: ↑Mon Dec 21, 2020 5:06 pm

Have the boats stopped arriving on the Kent coast then?

What the hell are we paying Farage for??

Insane_Homer wrote: ↑Mon Dec 21, 2020 8:23 pm

Bimbowomxn wrote: ↑Mon Dec 21, 2020 5:20 pm Have the boats stopped arriving on the Kent coast then?

I presume you mean boats with refugees, not fish or ferries. So... Remind us, what's the difference now we've left the EU?

Bimbowomxn wrote: ↑Mon Dec 21, 2020 8:43 pm I don’t really care. Your constant framing of a motive is all I’m referring too. It’s nasty and dishonest ....

Sandstorm wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 10:23 am Coppers and lorry drivers clashing in Kent as tensions boil over. Good practice for January for all.

I like neeps wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 10:27 am

Sandstorm wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 10:23 am Coppers and lorry drivers clashing in Kent as tensions boil over. Good practice for January for all.

I saw on twitter this:

"The truckers don’t have toilet facilities and are dependent on volunteers for food. And we’re expected to believe this crisis shows we’re “ready” for a no deal exit."

It is a point what on earth have they been doing?

tabascoboy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 11:04 am Eh, come on - you seriously expect measures to be fully in place BEFORE the necessary date? This is BoJo's Britain here, nothing more needed than a bit of chutzpah and va va voom.

I like neeps wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 10:27 am

Sandstorm wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 10:23 am Coppers and lorry drivers clashing in Kent as tensions boil over. Good practice for January for all.

I saw on twitter this:

"The truckers don’t have toilet facilities and are dependent on volunteers for food. And we’re expected to believe this crisis shows we’re “ready” for a no deal exit."

It is a point what on earth have they been doing?

fishfoodie wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 12:02 pm

C69 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 12:43 pm

fishfoodie wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 12:02 pm

Would this be the Brexit supporter Lord Lawson?

tc27 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 3:32 pm Farage claiming betrayal in 3-2-1....

westport wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 3:18 pmDeal is done

frodder wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 3:49 pm

westport wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 3:18 pmDeal is done

Rumour? Sauce?

frodder wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 2:21 pm

C69 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 12:43 pm

fishfoodie wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 12:02 pm

Would this be the Brexit supporter Lord Lawson?

It is indeed. There's something satisfying when reading tales such as this

frodder wrote: ↑Thu Dec 24, 2020 9:30 am If you fancy a good Christmas eve laugh then pop over to the DM comments section.

Colonel Blimp has never been so unhappy

There will of course be major challenges in the future relationship. Ultimately the EU achieved their main goals from Brexit, and the UK arguably did not. The EU successfully avoided a border on the island of Ireland and protected the single market from significant cherry picking. The UK succeeded in the headline goal of leaving the EU, but failed as proponents had expected to retain the benefits of membership without incurring the costs, and more recently in overturning any of the withdrawal agreement as the staunch Brexiteers had hoped. The EU also looks stronger for demonstrating so far that leaving is not an easy option, while the UK’s ability to maintain trade relations while escaping ‘the Brussels Effect’ of following EU regulations is going to be tested, business for example will wish to reverse the decision to leave some European regulatory agencies.

SaintK wrote: ↑Thu Dec 24, 2020 1:21 pm So despite all the leaks to the press last night that there would be an announcement of a deal first thing, still no deal agreed yet.
Analysts generally agreeing that it is a fairly "thin" deal that will be agreed in the end

There will of course be major challenges in the future relationship. Ultimately the EU achieved their main goals from Brexit, and the UK arguably did not. The EU successfully avoided a border on the island of Ireland and protected the single market from significant cherry picking. The UK succeeded in the headline goal of leaving the EU, but failed as proponents had expected to retain the benefits of membership without incurring the costs, and more recently in overturning any of the withdrawal agreement as the staunch Brexiteers had hoped. The EU also looks stronger for demonstrating so far that leaving is not an easy option, while the UK’s ability to maintain trade relations while escaping ‘the Brussels Effect’ of following EU regulations is going to be tested, business for example will wish to reverse the decision to leave some European regulatory agencies.