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Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 07, 2021 1:15 pm

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 07, 2021 1:13 pm So will England v NZ. There's plenty of classy batsmen in the Kiwi side who will lick their lips at facing what remains of the English bowling attack. I've not seen enough of NZ in this tournament to know how they've been getting on with the ball themselves, but losing Roy is a big blow.

Assuming Pak haven't been to the bookies and lose to Sco........

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 07, 2021 1:13 pm So will England v NZ. There's plenty of classy batsmen in the Kiwi side who will lick their lips at facing what remains of the English bowling attack. I've not seen enough of NZ in this tournament to know how they've been getting on with the ball themselves, but losing Roy is a big blow.

Thor Sedan wrote: ↑Sun Nov 07, 2021 5:42 pm

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 07, 2021 1:13 pm So will England v NZ. There's plenty of classy batsmen in the Kiwi side who will lick their lips at facing what remains of the English bowling attack. I've not seen enough of NZ in this tournament to know how they've been getting on with the ball themselves, but losing Roy is a big blow.

You've only lost Mills from the bowling line up haven't you? And although Roy has been in good form - you've got plenty of back up for opening.

Think Buttler will be looking forward to the NZ bowling line up - which has been very hittable over the last few games. The Scottish innings was particularly concerning.

Paddington Bear wrote: ↑Sun Nov 07, 2021 12:41 pm Air India can start routing 747s to Abu Dhabi I’d say, they’ll be needed soon

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 07, 2021 5:50 pm

Thor Sedan wrote: ↑Sun Nov 07, 2021 5:42 pm

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 07, 2021 1:13 pm So will England v NZ. There's plenty of classy batsmen in the Kiwi side who will lick their lips at facing what remains of the English bowling attack. I've not seen enough of NZ in this tournament to know how they've been getting on with the ball themselves, but losing Roy is a big blow.

You've only lost Mills from the bowling line up haven't you? And although Roy has been in good form - you've got plenty of back up for opening.

Think Buttler will be looking forward to the NZ bowling line up - which has been very hittable over the last few games. The Scottish innings was particularly concerning.

Only Mills in the tournament proper, but we lost Sam Curran just before, Wood's been injured during the tournament and is apparently struggling again, and we obviously don't have Archer or Stokes either.

Thor Sedan wrote: ↑Sun Nov 07, 2021 8:41 pm

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 07, 2021 5:50 pm

Thor Sedan wrote: ↑Sun Nov 07, 2021 5:42 pm

You've only lost Mills from the bowling line up haven't you? And although Roy has been in good form - you've got plenty of back up for opening.

Think Buttler will be looking forward to the NZ bowling line up - which has been very hittable over the last few games. The Scottish innings was particularly concerning.

Only Mills in the tournament proper, but we lost Sam Curran just before, Wood's been injured during the tournament and is apparently struggling again, and we obviously don't have Archer or Stokes either.

Perhaps - but your performances have been without Archer and Stokes - so that doesn't really factor. Woods would be a bit of a loss if he has broken down. But all your bowlers have been bowling well and taking wickets.

Unfortunately NZ has Santner and Milne who have been so hittable and not taking wickets. If Boult, Sodhi or Southee fail to turn up we're in trouble.

convoluted wrote: ↑Mon Nov 08, 2021 12:18 am Guess who ...

Insane_Homer wrote: ↑Mon Nov 08, 2021 1:05 pm Cricinfo has India bowling coach stating that India lost out because their captain is a tosser.


Edit: Oh no, wait, sorry, India lost out because their captain lost the toss.

:razz:

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 08, 2021 1:22 pm Roy confirmed out of the tournament with a torn calf.

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 08, 2021 1:22 pm Roy confirmed out of the tournament with a torn calf.

Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 08, 2021 1:47 pm

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 08, 2021 1:22 pm Roy confirmed out of the tournament with a torn calf.

I assume Eng allowed a replacement? Has he been announced?

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 08, 2021 2:17 pm

Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 08, 2021 1:47 pm

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 08, 2021 1:22 pm Roy confirmed out of the tournament with a torn calf.

I assume Eng allowed a replacement? Has he been announced?

Vince. Who will actually come into the side is unknown at this stage. Maybe Malan to open and Billings into the middle order, but maybe we'll beef up the bowling a bit more instead.

Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 07, 2021 2:47 pm

Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 07, 2021 1:15 pm

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 07, 2021 1:13 pm So will England v NZ. There's plenty of classy batsmen in the Kiwi side who will lick their lips at facing what remains of the English bowling attack. I've not seen enough of NZ in this tournament to know how they've been getting on with the ball themselves, but losing Roy is a big blow.

Assuming Pak haven't been to the bookies and lose to Sco........

See.

Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 08, 2021 3:21 pm

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 08, 2021 2:17 pm

Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 08, 2021 1:47 pm

I assume Eng allowed a replacement? Has he been announced?

Vince. Who will actually come into the side is unknown at this stage. Maybe Malan to open and Billings into the middle order, but maybe we'll beef up the bowling a bit more instead.

Thx

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 08, 2021 3:44 pm

Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 07, 2021 2:47 pm

Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 07, 2021 1:15 pm

Assuming Pak haven't been to the bookies and lose to Sco........

See.

How did this go btw? :)

Gumboot wrote: ↑Tue Nov 09, 2021 5:26 am So now that India's gone, who will their legion of fans support? Which SF team has the most appealing bandwagon for them to jump on? Safe to assume we can rule out Pakistan...

FalseBayFC wrote: ↑Tue Nov 09, 2021 4:39 pm I'm on the Black Craps train. Choo choo. They seem a bunch of humble blokes. If not them then Pakistan, England and then Aus in that order.

Gumboot wrote: ↑Tue Nov 09, 2021 5:26 am So now that India's gone, who will their legion of fans support? Which SF team has the most appealing bandwagon for them to jump on? Safe to assume we can rule out Pakistan...

Gumboot wrote: ↑Tue Nov 09, 2021 5:26 am So now that India's gone, who will their legion of fans support? Which SF team has the most appealing bandwagon for them to jump on? Safe to assume we can rule out Pakistan...

Thor Sedan wrote: ↑Wed Nov 10, 2021 9:38 am

FalseBayFC wrote: ↑Tue Nov 09, 2021 4:39 pm I'm on the Black Craps train. Choo choo. They seem a bunch of humble blokes. If not them then Pakistan, England and then Aus in that order.

Everyone loves an underdog!

FalseBayFC wrote: ↑Wed Nov 10, 2021 11:03 am

Thor Sedan wrote: ↑Wed Nov 10, 2021 9:38 am

FalseBayFC wrote: ↑Tue Nov 09, 2021 4:39 pm I'm on the Black Craps train. Choo choo. They seem a bunch of humble blokes. If not them then Pakistan, England and then Aus in that order.

Everyone loves an underdog!

I'm fearful for you blokes. England has an absolute machine of a team. I am however loyal to most SH teams bar the Aus cricket team. I have too much mental scarring from Hayden, McGrath and particularly Shane Warne.

Thor Sedan wrote: ↑Wed Nov 10, 2021 11:11 am

FalseBayFC wrote: ↑Wed Nov 10, 2021 11:03 am

Thor Sedan wrote: ↑Wed Nov 10, 2021 9:38 am

Everyone loves an underdog!

I'm fearful for you blokes. England has an absolute machine of a team. I am however loyal to most SH teams bar the Aus cricket team. I have too much mental scarring from Hayden, McGrath and particularly Shane Warne.

Oh I genuinely think England will win comfortably - they are a better side than NZ. Better bowlers, MUCH better spinners and an in form, superior batting line up. The only place NZ match up with them is the fielding.

I know some English fans are doing the whole 'well English cricket is English cricket and we're ripe for a collapse'.....but I think they are secretly pretty confident - and rightly so.

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 10, 2021 11:46 am

Thor Sedan wrote: ↑Wed Nov 10, 2021 11:11 am

FalseBayFC wrote: ↑Wed Nov 10, 2021 11:03 am
I'm fearful for you blokes. England has an absolute machine of a team. I am however loyal to most SH teams bar the Aus cricket team. I have too much mental scarring from Hayden, McGrath and particularly Shane Warne.

Oh I genuinely think England will win comfortably - they are a better side than NZ. Better bowlers, MUCH better spinners and an in form, superior batting line up. The only place NZ match up with them is the fielding.

I know some English fans are doing the whole 'well English cricket is English cricket and we're ripe for a collapse'.....but I think they are secretly pretty confident - and rightly so.

The "machine" has broken a few parts. Does anyone seriously think we'd have won the ODI world cup without Roy, Stokes, and Archer? We're still a good side but we're clearly not unbeatable, as the Saffers showed, and losing Roy on top of Mills is a huge blow.

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 10, 2021 11:46 am

Thor Sedan wrote: ↑Wed Nov 10, 2021 11:11 am

FalseBayFC wrote: ↑Wed Nov 10, 2021 11:03 am
I'm fearful for you blokes. England has an absolute machine of a team. I am however loyal to most SH teams bar the Aus cricket team. I have too much mental scarring from Hayden, McGrath and particularly Shane Warne.

Oh I genuinely think England will win comfortably - they are a better side than NZ. Better bowlers, MUCH better spinners and an in form, superior batting line up. The only place NZ match up with them is the fielding.

I know some English fans are doing the whole 'well English cricket is English cricket and we're ripe for a collapse'.....but I think they are secretly pretty confident - and rightly so.

The "machine" has broken a few parts. Does anyone seriously think we'd have won the ODI world cup without Roy, Stokes, and Archer? We're still a good side but we're clearly not unbeatable, as the Saffers showed, and losing Roy on top of Mills is a huge blow.

Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 10, 2021 12:21 pm

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 10, 2021 11:46 am

Thor Sedan wrote: ↑Wed Nov 10, 2021 11:11 am

Oh I genuinely think England will win comfortably - they are a better side than NZ. Better bowlers, MUCH better spinners and an in form, superior batting line up. The only place NZ match up with them is the fielding.

I know some English fans are doing the whole 'well English cricket is English cricket and we're ripe for a collapse'.....but I think they are secretly pretty confident - and rightly so.

The "machine" has broken a few parts. Does anyone seriously think we'd have won the ODI world cup without Roy, Stokes, and Archer? We're still a good side but we're clearly not unbeatable, as the Saffers showed, and losing Roy on top of Mills is a huge blow.

I'm undecided as to who is victorious in this pre-match, our mockers are greater than your mockers contest.

Thor Sedan wrote: ↑Wed Nov 10, 2021 12:57 pm

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 10, 2021 11:46 am

Thor Sedan wrote: ↑Wed Nov 10, 2021 11:11 am

Oh I genuinely think England will win comfortably - they are a better side than NZ. Better bowlers, MUCH better spinners and an in form, superior batting line up. The only place NZ match up with them is the fielding.

I know some English fans are doing the whole 'well English cricket is English cricket and we're ripe for a collapse'.....but I think they are secretly pretty confident - and rightly so.

The "machine" has broken a few parts. Does anyone seriously think we'd have won the ODI world cup without Roy, Stokes, and Archer? We're still a good side but we're clearly not unbeatable, as the Saffers showed, and losing Roy on top of Mills is a huge blow.

Yep - they are huge losses - but your recent performances have been without them. And your recent performances have been impressive. The SA result was perhaps a lowering of intensity due to a 'job done so far' attitude.

I don't expect them to be as sloppy as they were against SA.

Basically - if England play at 100% and NZ play at 100% - England will win.