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Re: So, coronavirus...

Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2020 9:22 am
by dpedin
Interesting article but worrying ..

https://www.scientificamerican.com/arti ... -symptoms/

Re: So, coronavirus...

Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2020 9:32 am
by yermum
Jon Drezner warns about the massive increase he has seen in myocarditis in athletes since COVID has hit.

Many cases have been asymptomatic but there is an obvious concern about SCD down the line.

Re: So, coronavirus...

Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2020 9:41 am
by Bimbowomxn
Massive increase :
It is a rare condition, but the COVID-19 virus has been linked with myocarditis with a higher frequency than other viruses, based on limited studies and anecdotal evidence since the start of the pandemic.

No one knows
Yet .

Re: So, coronavirus...

Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2020 9:44 am
by Bimbowomxn
The concern has "made the bar higher" for returning to fall sports, said Dr. Jonathan Drezner, director of the University of Washington Medicine Center for Sports Cardiology and a sports medicine physician who advises the NCAA on cardiac issues, "and it could be we don't get there."
He’s certainly concerned.

Re: So, coronavirus...

Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2020 11:42 am
by Sandstorm
dpedin wrote: Wed Sep 02, 2020 9:22 am Interesting article but worrying ..

https://www.scientificamerican.com/arti ... -symptoms/
“Even the Advil and acetaminophen wouldn’t help my fevers,” said J.N. Just 34 years old, he was diagnosed with COVID-induced myocarditis and severe heart failure. Doctors admitted him to the intensive care unit and placed him on a lifesaving intra-aortic balloon pump due to the very poor function of his heart. He spent two weeks in the hospital, has suffered recurrences since his discharge, and now says, “I’m very careful. I’m very concerned about the length of time I’ve been feeling sick, and if these symptoms are lifelong or will go away anytime soon.” J.N. said that everyday activities, like carrying his one-year-old daughter up a flight of stairs, leave him feeling winded and fatigued. He has been unable to work since March.
Fuck. That.

Re: So, coronavirus...

Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2020 1:52 pm
by C69
If you ate interested www.escardio.org is my go source for covid and cardiovascular issues.
It's straightforward and basically ronseal

Re: So, coronavirus...

Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2020 2:50 pm
by Insane_Homer
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-m ... r-53995677
Greater Manchester lockdown easing U-turn after cases rise

Parts of Greater Manchester will not have lockdown restrictions eased as planned following a government U-turn.

Measures in Bolton and Trafford were due to be eased overnight after a fall in cases earlier in August.

But they will "now remain under existing restrictions" following "a significant change in the level of infection rates over the last few days", the government announced.

The region's mayor Andy Burnham had called the proposed easing "illogical".
This Government is very good at one thing, U-turns.

Re: So, coronavirus...

Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2020 2:53 pm
by Sandstorm
Insane_Homer wrote: Wed Sep 02, 2020 2:50 pm https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-m ... r-53995677
Greater Manchester lockdown easing U-turn after cases rise

Parts of Greater Manchester will not have lockdown restrictions eased as planned following a government U-turn.

Measures in Bolton and Trafford were due to be eased overnight after a fall in cases earlier in August.

But they will "now remain under existing restrictions" following "a significant change in the level of infection rates over the last few days", the government announced.

The region's mayor Andy Burnham had called the proposed easing "illogical".
This Government is very good at one thing, U-turns.
Blame those twats always out on the lash in the NW, not the Govt. You can't tell a Northerner anything.....

Re: So, coronavirus...

Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2020 2:58 pm
by Bimbowomxn
Insane_Homer wrote: Wed Sep 02, 2020 2:50 pm https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-m ... r-53995677
Greater Manchester lockdown easing U-turn after cases rise

Parts of Greater Manchester will not have lockdown restrictions eased as planned following a government U-turn.

Measures in Bolton and Trafford were due to be eased overnight after a fall in cases earlier in August.

But they will "now remain under existing restrictions" following "a significant change in the level of infection rates over the last few days", the government announced.

The region's mayor Andy Burnham had called the proposed easing "illogical".
This Government is very good at one thing, U-turns.


“I demand tighter lockdowns and reaction to known areas of higher incident “


Government reacts to local conditions and locks down areas of concern.


“Look look look, they’re doing a U turn”

Re: So, coronavirus...

Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2020 2:59 pm
by Slick
Insane_Homer wrote: Wed Sep 02, 2020 2:50 pm https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-m ... r-53995677
Greater Manchester lockdown easing U-turn after cases rise

Parts of Greater Manchester will not have lockdown restrictions eased as planned following a government U-turn.

Measures in Bolton and Trafford were due to be eased overnight after a fall in cases earlier in August.

But they will "now remain under existing restrictions" following "a significant change in the level of infection rates over the last few days", the government announced.

The region's mayor Andy Burnham had called the proposed easing "illogical".
This Government is very good at one thing, U-turns.
Probably a good thing at the moment

Re: So, coronavirus...

Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2020 3:33 pm
by Insane_Homer
If you're wondering about the reference to the u-turn

here's Matt Hancock... yesterday
https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk ... n-18862312
Leaders in Bolton are pleading with the government NOT to lift local restrictions tomorrow.

A row in Trafford erupted after the council asked for restrictions to stay in place - only for Mr Hancock to announce otherwise.

Re: So, coronavirus...

Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2020 3:42 pm
by Bimbowomxn
“We are asking for two areas to be left locked down”

Leaves those areas locked down.....


“Look look look , he’s not listening “.

Re: So, coronavirus...

Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2020 4:00 pm
by ASMO
Hancock the Bullshitter who the other day announced he was going to change the law to allow practice nurses to administer vaccines, something they have already been doing for years and years, he really is a useless cunt.

Re: So, coronavirus...

Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2020 4:21 pm
by Blackmac
We were going through to our friends in Glasgow this weekend. Just a quiet evening in their house. Unfortunately according to the latest Scottish government directive we can no longer do that and we now have to meet in the safe environment of a crowded pub as this is less risky. :wtf: :wtf:

Re: So, coronavirus...

Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2020 4:51 pm
by Bimbowomxn
Deaths in private homes are still occurring above average levels. Since week ending 26 July, there have been more excess non-COVID-19 deaths in private homes than #COVID19 deaths in all settings.

But we protected the NHS.

Re: So, coronavirus...

Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2020 5:55 pm
by Biffer
Blackmac wrote: Wed Sep 02, 2020 4:21 pm We were going through to our friends in Glasgow this weekend. Just a quiet evening in their house. Unfortunately according to the latest Scottish government directive we can no longer do that and we now have to meet in the safe environment of a crowded pub as this is less risky. :wtf: :wtf:
If it’s a crowded pub it’s not meeting the guidelines.

Re: So, coronavirus...

Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2020 10:17 pm
by fishfoodie
Cases have apparently doubled in South Dakota, in a week .... I wonder what could have caused that ?

Re: So, coronavirus...

Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2020 10:28 pm
by MungoMan
C69 wrote: Wed Sep 02, 2020 1:52 pm If you ate interested www.escardio.org is my go source for covid and cardiovascular issues.
It's straightforward and basically ronseal
It is clear you cannot help yourself

Re: So, coronavirus...

Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2020 12:24 am
by Hong Kong
MungoMan wrote: Wed Sep 02, 2020 10:28 pm
C69 wrote: Wed Sep 02, 2020 1:52 pm If you ate interested www.escardio.org is my go source for covid and cardiovascular issues.
It's straightforward and basically ronseal
It is clear you cannot help yourself
🤣. Here in HK we have been using masks since forever, various lockdowns, a series of SD measures, fewer than 100 deaths and still we have idiots who refuse to accept science or proof

Re: So, coronavirus...

Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2020 1:05 am
by mat the expat
Hong Kong wrote: Thu Sep 03, 2020 12:24 am
MungoMan wrote: Wed Sep 02, 2020 10:28 pm
C69 wrote: Wed Sep 02, 2020 1:52 pm If you ate interested www.escardio.org is my go source for covid and cardiovascular issues.
It's straightforward and basically ronseal
It is clear you cannot help yourself
🤣. Here in HK we have been using masks since forever, various lockdowns, a series of SD measures, fewer than 100 deaths and still we have idiots who refuse to accept science or proof
It's clear a career in Finance doesn't need empathy or scientific skills :bimbo:

Re: So, coronavirus...

Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2020 1:27 am
by Ted.
Bimbowomxn wrote: Tue Sep 01, 2020 2:21 pm And excess deaths contains thousands who died of treatable heart attacks and strokes who quietly stayed at home too terrified to go to hospital. Often terrified incorrectly by induced media panic.
Something that is surely a direct consequence of the pandemic, given that, without the disease those adverse effects would not have existed. So thanks for, yet again, bringing our attention to that causal relationship. All the same, most of us get it......

Re: So, coronavirus...

Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2020 6:13 am
by laurent
Tested negative.

The labs are a bit overwhelmed in france as ther is about 900000 tests weekly.

Re: So, coronavirus...

Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2020 6:22 am
by Bimbowomxn
mat the expat wrote: Thu Sep 03, 2020 1:05 am
Hong Kong wrote: Thu Sep 03, 2020 12:24 am
MungoMan wrote: Wed Sep 02, 2020 10:28 pm
It is clear you cannot help yourself
🤣. Here in HK we have been using masks since forever, various lockdowns, a series of SD measures, fewer than 100 deaths and still we have idiots who refuse to accept science or proof
It's clear a career in Finance doesn't need empathy or scientific skills :bimbo:

The science on Masks is sketchy at best. Everyone knows that.

Re: So, coronavirus...

Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2020 6:23 am
by Bimbowomxn
Ted. wrote: Thu Sep 03, 2020 1:27 am
Bimbowomxn wrote: Tue Sep 01, 2020 2:21 pm And excess deaths contains thousands who died of treatable heart attacks and strokes who quietly stayed at home too terrified to go to hospital. Often terrified incorrectly by induced media panic.
Something that is surely a direct consequence of the pandemic, given that, without the disease those adverse effects would not have existed. So thanks for, yet again, bringing our attention to that causal relationship. All the same, most of us get it......

It’s a direct consequence of policy around lockdowns and the deliberate use of “fear” as a method of compliance.

Re: So, coronavirus...

Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2020 7:07 am
by Insane_Homer
I got randomly selected for an Anti-body test, signed up, program starts 14 Sept.

Finger prick test. Should be interesting.

Re: So, coronavirus...

Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2020 8:17 am
by Sandstorm
Bimbowomxn wrote: Thu Sep 03, 2020 6:23 am
Ted. wrote: Thu Sep 03, 2020 1:27 am
Bimbowomxn wrote: Tue Sep 01, 2020 2:21 pm And excess deaths contains thousands who died of treatable heart attacks and strokes who quietly stayed at home too terrified to go to hospital. Often terrified incorrectly by induced media panic.
Something that is surely a direct consequence of the pandemic, given that, without the disease those adverse effects would not have existed. So thanks for, yet again, bringing our attention to that causal relationship. All the same, most of us get it......

It’s a direct consequence of policy around lockdowns and the deliberate use of “fear” as a method of compliance.
You think more than 25% of the population will respond to "If you don't mind..." ?

Re: So, coronavirus...

Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2020 11:44 am
by Ted.
Bimbowomxn wrote: Thu Sep 03, 2020 6:23 am
Ted. wrote: Thu Sep 03, 2020 1:27 am
Bimbowomxn wrote: Tue Sep 01, 2020 2:21 pm And excess deaths contains thousands who died of treatable heart attacks and strokes who quietly stayed at home too terrified to go to hospital. Often terrified incorrectly by induced media panic.
Something that is surely a direct consequence of the pandemic, given that, without the disease those adverse effects would not have existed. So thanks for, yet again, bringing our attention to that causal relationship. All the same, most of us get it......

It’s a direct consequence of policy around lockdowns and the deliberate use of “fear” as a method of compliance.
Come now Bimbo, just because you are scared shitless, it doesn't automatically follow that everyone else is. Besides that, I am not wrong.

Re: So, coronavirus...

Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2020 11:56 am
by Bimbowomxn
Ted. wrote: Thu Sep 03, 2020 11:44 am
Bimbowomxn wrote: Thu Sep 03, 2020 6:23 am
Ted. wrote: Thu Sep 03, 2020 1:27 am

Something that is surely a direct consequence of the pandemic, given that, without the disease those adverse effects would not have existed. So thanks for, yet again, bringing our attention to that causal relationship. All the same, most of us get it......

It’s a direct consequence of policy around lockdowns and the deliberate use of “fear” as a method of compliance.
Come now Bimbo, just because you are scared shitless, it doesn't automatically follow that everyone else is. Besides that, I am not wrong.


I’m really not sure how you reach the conclusion that I’m scared. And my statement regarding the use of “fear” is a fact rather than your “direct consequence “ nonsense. But hey you’re opinion from the village is always welcome.

Re: So, coronavirus...

Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2020 9:24 pm
by Ted.
Bimbowomxn wrote: Thu Sep 03, 2020 11:56 am
Ted. wrote: Thu Sep 03, 2020 11:44 am
Bimbowomxn wrote: Thu Sep 03, 2020 6:23 am


It’s a direct consequence of policy around lockdowns and the deliberate use of “fear” as a method of compliance.
Come now Bimbo, just because you are scared shitless, it doesn't automatically follow that everyone else is. Besides that, I am not wrong.


I’m really not sure how you reach the conclusion that I’m scared. And my statement regarding the use of “fear” is a fact rather than your “direct consequence “ nonsense. But hey you’re opinion from the village is always welcome.
It's not only welcomed, it's valued.

Re: So, coronavirus...

Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2020 12:30 am
by Ovals
Worrying jump in the number of new cases in the UK. Jumped up to 2998 - highest since May, albeit greater testing since then, but a huge increase in recent days that can't be explained by more testing.

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Re: So, coronavirus...

Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2020 6:38 am
by Flockwitt
Heading into normal flu season?

Re: So, coronavirus...

Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2020 6:42 am
by Sandstorm
Flockwitt wrote: Mon Sep 07, 2020 6:38 am Heading into normal flu season?
No, everyone is out and about again having fun and only wearing masks on trains or in shops.

Re: So, coronavirus...

Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2020 7:19 am
by Biffer
Flockwitt wrote: Mon Sep 07, 2020 6:38 am Heading into normal flu season?
And how would that affect the number of positive tests?

Re: So, coronavirus...

Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2020 7:45 am
by Saint
Ovals wrote: Mon Sep 07, 2020 12:30 am Worrying jump in the number of new cases in the UK. Jumped up to 2998 - highest since May, albeit greater testing since then, but a huge increase in recent days that can't be explained by more testing.

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Interesting listening to a proffesor of public health on R5L now - ONS stats should infections are broadly static, hospitalisations rates and acute cases down etc. We're still learning a lot as we go

Re: So, coronavirus...

Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2020 7:51 am
by Bimbowomxn
Sandstorm wrote: Mon Sep 07, 2020 6:42 am
Flockwitt wrote: Mon Sep 07, 2020 6:38 am Heading into normal flu season?
No, everyone is out and about again having fun and only wearing masks on trains or in shops.


Bastards “having fun”.

Re: So, coronavirus...

Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2020 8:10 am
by Un Pilier
Biffer wrote: Mon Sep 07, 2020 7:19 am
Flockwitt wrote: Mon Sep 07, 2020 6:38 am Heading into normal flu season?
And how would that affect the number of positive tests?
Good point :grin:

On the subject of “the normal flu season”, I think there’s a good chance we don’t have a bad one. Assuming most people use sensible Covid precautions, that must have a significant impact on normal flu transmission rates.

Re: So, coronavirus...

Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2020 8:13 am
by dpedin
Interesting article but worrying ....

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/ ... g-hospital

Re: So, coronavirus...

Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2020 8:26 am
by dpedin

Re: So, coronavirus...

Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2020 8:30 am
by Enzedder
Un Pilier wrote: Mon Sep 07, 2020 8:10 am
Biffer wrote: Mon Sep 07, 2020 7:19 am
Flockwitt wrote: Mon Sep 07, 2020 6:38 am Heading into normal flu season?
And how would that affect the number of positive tests?
Good point :grin:

On the subject of “the normal flu season”, I think there’s a good chance we don’t have a bad one. Assuming most people use sensible Covid precautions, that must have a significant impact on normal flu transmission rates.
I posted somewhere (either bored) a couple of days ago that flu hospitalisations in NZ dropped from 6500 last year to just over 200 this year and flu season is coming to an end

Re: So, coronavirus...

Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2020 8:31 am
by CM11
Enzedder wrote: Mon Sep 07, 2020 8:30 am
Un Pilier wrote: Mon Sep 07, 2020 8:10 am
Biffer wrote: Mon Sep 07, 2020 7:19 am

And how would that affect the number of positive tests?
Good point :grin:

On the subject of “the normal flu season”, I think there’s a good chance we don’t have a bad one. Assuming most people use sensible Covid precautions, that must have a significant impact on normal flu transmission rates.
I posted somewhere (either bored) a couple of days ago that flu hospitalisations in NZ dropped from 6500 last year to just over 200 this year.
That's mad. Are you out of flu season yet?