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Charlotte Kathryn Tranter Owen (born 1993)[1][2] is a British former special adviser.[3] In June 2023 it was announced that she was to be granted a life peerage in the 2022 Prime Minister's Resignation Honours.[4] Owen will be the youngest life peer in British history.[5]

Owen graduated from the University of York in 2015, gaining a 2:1 in Politics and International Relations.[6] She is not known to have any formal professional qualifications or experience of work. She worked as an intern and parliamentary assistant, before joining the 'Number 10' Political Unit as a special adviser in an unknown role under successive prime ministers Boris Johnson and Liz Truss.[7] [8] In her special adviser role, Owen worked 50% for Boris Johnson, and 50% for the Chief Whip and Parliamentary Secretary to the Treasury, Chris Heaton-Harris. At the time, there was much speculation given her modest achievements, as to what significant contribution to British society was made to justify the ennoblement.


Apparently her mother was divorced from Boris Johnson just before Charlotte was born.

fishfoodie wrote: ↑Sun Jun 11, 2023 12:42 pm

The prime minister’s trade envoy to Mongolia lobbied the Electoral Commission to permit a £10,000 donation to his party association from a “Mongolian friend”, documents reveal.

Daniel Kawczynski, the Conservative MP for Shrewsbury, contacted the independent electoral watchdog on 20 April, days after his return from a week-long trip to Mongolia in his role as trade envoy, accompanied by the UK ambassador.

Kawczynski said the “Mongolian friend” was “a personal contact, and was separate to my role as an envoy” He declined to identify the would-be donor and said he travelled to Mongolia on a regular basis in a personal capacity as well as in his role as trade envoy.

He told the commission he did “not understand why British passport holders should be treated differently from foreign passport holders when it comes to political parties” and requested a meeting at the House of Commons with the watchdog’s chief executive, Shaun McNally, to discuss his “concerns” on the longstanding political finance rules banning donations from overseas donors.

...

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... ian-friend

Private Eye turn up a constant stream of shite on this guy, I've no idea how he is still an MP

Tichtheid wrote: ↑Mon Jun 12, 2023 8:42 amApparently her mother was divorced from Boris Johnson just before Charlotte was born.

Got a link? I can't find anything even vaguely reliable online to suggest Charlotte Owen is the daughter of Allegra Mostyn-Owen.

Mahoney wrote: ↑Mon Jun 12, 2023 9:19 am

Tichtheid wrote: ↑Mon Jun 12, 2023 8:42 amApparently her mother was divorced from Boris Johnson just before Charlotte was born.

Got a link? I can't find anything even vaguely reliable online to suggest Charlotte Owen is the daughter of Allegra Mostyn-Owen.

I'm afraid the story I read on her turns out to be bollocks, Mostyn-Owen and Johnson didn't have children together - I retract that part of the post.

Tichtheid wrote: ↑Mon Jun 12, 2023 8:42 am From Wiki


Charlotte Kathryn Tranter Owen (born 1993)[1][2] is a British former special adviser.[3] In June 2023 it was announced that she was to be granted a life peerage in the 2022 Prime Minister's Resignation Honours.[4] Owen will be the youngest life peer in British history.[5]

Owen graduated from the University of York in 2015, gaining a 2:1 in Politics and International Relations.[6] She is not known to have any formal professional qualifications or experience of work. She worked as an intern and parliamentary assistant, before joining the 'Number 10' Political Unit as a special adviser in an unknown role under successive prime ministers Boris Johnson and Liz Truss.[7] [8] In her special adviser role, Owen worked 50% for Boris Johnson, and 50% for the Chief Whip and Parliamentary Secretary to the Treasury, Chris Heaton-Harris. At the time, there was much speculation given her modest achievements, as to what significant contribution to British society was made to justify the ennoblement.

Dear God, what have we become? It just seems impossible to change anything for the better. How have we got to a situation where one person, discredited or otherwise, can choose people that might be in Parliament for the next sixty years? I was pretty pissed off when Botham got a seat in the HoL.

GogLais wrote: ↑Mon Jun 12, 2023 10:06 am

Tichtheid wrote: ↑Mon Jun 12, 2023 8:42 am From Wiki


Charlotte Kathryn Tranter Owen (born 1993)[1][2] is a British former special adviser.[3] In June 2023 it was announced that she was to be granted a life peerage in the 2022 Prime Minister's Resignation Honours.[4] Owen will be the youngest life peer in British history.[5]

Owen graduated from the University of York in 2015, gaining a 2:1 in Politics and International Relations.[6] She is not known to have any formal professional qualifications or experience of work. She worked as an intern and parliamentary assistant, before joining the 'Number 10' Political Unit as a special adviser in an unknown role under successive prime ministers Boris Johnson and Liz Truss.[7] [8] In her special adviser role, Owen worked 50% for Boris Johnson, and 50% for the Chief Whip and Parliamentary Secretary to the Treasury, Chris Heaton-Harris. At the time, there was much speculation given her modest achievements, as to what significant contribution to British society was made to justify the ennoblement.

Dear God, what have we become? It just seems impossible to change anything for the better. How have we got to a situation where one person, discredited or otherwise, can choose people that might be in Parliament for the next sixty years? I was pretty pissed off when Botham got a seat in the HoL.

The UK is like the US, finding out that the checks & balances they though were in place to stop bad actors from damaging the entire Nation, Just.Don't.Exist !

One malignant cunt can do damage that will take decades to repair, if ever.

fishfoodie wrote: ↑Mon Jun 12, 2023 10:14 am

GogLais wrote: ↑Mon Jun 12, 2023 10:06 am

Tichtheid wrote: ↑Mon Jun 12, 2023 8:42 am From Wiki


Charlotte Kathryn Tranter Owen (born 1993)[1][2] is a British former special adviser.[3] In June 2023 it was announced that she was to be granted a life peerage in the 2022 Prime Minister's Resignation Honours.[4] Owen will be the youngest life peer in British history.[5]

Owen graduated from the University of York in 2015, gaining a 2:1 in Politics and International Relations.[6] She is not known to have any formal professional qualifications or experience of work. She worked as an intern and parliamentary assistant, before joining the 'Number 10' Political Unit as a special adviser in an unknown role under successive prime ministers Boris Johnson and Liz Truss.[7] [8] In her special adviser role, Owen worked 50% for Boris Johnson, and 50% for the Chief Whip and Parliamentary Secretary to the Treasury, Chris Heaton-Harris. At the time, there was much speculation given her modest achievements, as to what significant contribution to British society was made to justify the ennoblement.

Dear God, what have we become? It just seems impossible to change anything for the better. How have we got to a situation where one person, discredited or otherwise, can choose people that might be in Parliament for the next sixty years? I was pretty pissed off when Botham got a seat in the HoL.

The UK is like the US, finding out that the checks & balances they though were in place to stop bad actors from damaging the entire Nation, Just.Don't.Exist !

One malignant cunt can do damage that will take decades to repair, if ever.

Yep it's a mixture of:
- too much is run on convention and if someone just decides to ignore convention there's nothing that can be done
- regulatory bodies/committees are toothless and/or those in power can make appointments and thus de-fang them.

sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Mon Jun 12, 2023 10:24 am

fishfoodie wrote: ↑Mon Jun 12, 2023 10:14 am

GogLais wrote: ↑Mon Jun 12, 2023 10:06 am

Dear God, what have we become? It just seems impossible to change anything for the better. How have we got to a situation where one person, discredited or otherwise, can choose people that might be in Parliament for the next sixty years? I was pretty pissed off when Botham got a seat in the HoL.

The UK is like the US, finding out that the checks & balances they though were in place to stop bad actors from damaging the entire Nation, Just.Don't.Exist !

One malignant cunt can do damage that will take decades to repair, if ever.

Yep it's a mixture of:
- too much is run on convention and if someone just decides to ignore convention there's nothing that can be done
- regulatory bodies/committees are toothless and/or those in power can make appointments and thus de-fang them.

There's nothing new about appointing a political non-entity who shouldn't be there to the Lords, she's just younger than most of them.

Paddington Bear wrote: ↑Mon Jun 12, 2023 10:28 am

sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Mon Jun 12, 2023 10:24 am

fishfoodie wrote: ↑Mon Jun 12, 2023 10:14 am

The UK is like the US, finding out that the checks & balances they though were in place to stop bad actors from damaging the entire Nation, Just.Don't.Exist !

One malignant cunt can do damage that will take decades to repair, if ever.

Yep it's a mixture of:
- too much is run on convention and if someone just decides to ignore convention there's nothing that can be done
- regulatory bodies/committees are toothless and/or those in power can make appointments and thus de-fang them.

There's nothing new about appointing a political non-entity who shouldn't be there to the Lords, she's just younger than most of them.

Of course, Lords appointments have been a shitshow since becoming old enough to be politically aware under Labour, although it does seem like the Tories have managed to be even more egregious with it over the last several years, but I was just piggy backing on the generality of fishfoodie's comment.

Blue on blue full-scale war

tabascoboy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 12, 2023 11:31 am

Christ, we make this cumbersome, don't we.

So if the Government gets it's skates on, it can vote on the sanction & the oaf doesn't get to ignore the disciplinary process ?

The Blob!, the Blob!

Plan for cruise ship to house asylum seekers near Liverpool scrapped
A government source tells Sky News the plan for a giant ship to house hundreds of men seeking asylum has been scrapped after being declined by the port.

A government source has told Sky News the vessel was due to house 500 men seeking asylum in Birkenhead, but that will no longer happen following objections from Peel Ports.

The ship would have been a new, seventh site acquired by the Home Office under controversial plans to start transferring migrants away from hotels in a bid to crack down on illegal immigration.

Peel Ports Group, operator of The Port of Liverpool, said whilst they could provide the berth, "it was dependent on the necessary support from the local agencies".

They told the PA news agency: "Last week, we simply observed that we could not see any conceivable scenario where the local agencies are going to be able to provide the necessary support to make this solution work.

"Peel Ports remains committed to fulfilling its full statutory obligations to provide access to any vessel, provided it can do so safely and securely, and it has the available infrastructure."

How much money did Cruella piss away on this latest moronic idea ?

fishfoodie wrote: ↑Mon Jun 12, 2023 12:19 pm How much money did Cruella piss away on this latest moronic idea ?

Same issues at Port of London. Wouldn't surprise me at all if they simply thought you could moor one of these in any port without any other considerations

The Home Office approached the Royal Docks Management Authority (RoDMA) some weeks ago about the possibility of mooring a barge for asylum seekers in the east London docks.

Newham Council and the Metropolitan Police are understood to be opposed to the proposition on safety grounds. RoDMA has raised a formal objection.

tabascoboy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 12, 2023 12:26 pm

fishfoodie wrote: ↑Mon Jun 12, 2023 12:19 pm How much money did Cruella piss away on this latest moronic idea ?

Same issues at Port of London. Wouldn't surprise me at all if they simply thought you could moor one of these in any port without any other considerations

The Home Office approached the Royal Docks Management Authority (RoDMA) some weeks ago about the possibility of mooring a barge for asylum seekers in the east London docks.

Newham Council and the Metropolitan Police are understood to be opposed to the proposition on safety grounds. RoDMA has raised a formal objection.

Exactly. It's a 'little people' problem, I've had the idea, you little people need to make it work or it's your fault it failed, can't be that my idea was shit because I'm self evidently brilliant.

Biffer wrote: ↑Mon Jun 12, 2023 2:11 pm

tabascoboy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 12, 2023 12:26 pm

fishfoodie wrote: ↑Mon Jun 12, 2023 12:19 pm How much money did Cruella piss away on this latest moronic idea ?

Same issues at Port of London. Wouldn't surprise me at all if they simply thought you could moor one of these in any port without any other considerations

The Home Office approached the Royal Docks Management Authority (RoDMA) some weeks ago about the possibility of mooring a barge for asylum seekers in the east London docks.

Newham Council and the Metropolitan Police are understood to be opposed to the proposition on safety grounds. RoDMA has raised a formal objection.

Exactly. It's a 'little people' problem, I've had the idea, you little people need to make it work or it's your fault it failed, can't be that my idea was shit because I'm self evidently brilliant.

Sounds familiar

Slick wrote: ↑Mon Jun 12, 2023 2:50 pm

Biffer wrote: ↑Mon Jun 12, 2023 2:11 pm

tabascoboy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 12, 2023 12:26 pm

Same issues at Port of London. Wouldn't surprise me at all if they simply thought you could moor one of these in any port without any other considerations

Exactly. It's a 'little people' problem, I've had the idea, you little people need to make it work or it's your fault it failed, can't be that my idea was shit because I'm self evidently brilliant.

Sounds familiar

Ooh yeah !

I used to call it, doing a Picard.

You'll recall that Picard would say "make it so" after Data and Geordi had told him what their solution was

tabascoboy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 12, 2023 11:55 am The Blob!, the Blob!

Plan for cruise ship to house asylum seekers near Liverpool scrapped
A government source tells Sky News the plan for a giant ship to house hundreds of men seeking asylum has been scrapped after being declined by the port.

A government source has told Sky News the vessel was due to house 500 men seeking asylum in Birkenhead, but that will no longer happen following objections from Peel Ports.

The ship would have been a new, seventh site acquired by the Home Office under controversial plans to start transferring migrants away from hotels in a bid to crack down on illegal immigration.

Peel Ports Group, operator of The Port of Liverpool, said whilst they could provide the berth, "it was dependent on the necessary support from the local agencies".

They told the PA news agency: "Last week, we simply observed that we could not see any conceivable scenario where the local agencies are going to be able to provide the necessary support to make this solution work.

"Peel Ports remains committed to fulfilling its full statutory obligations to provide access to any vessel, provided it can do so safely and securely, and it has the available infrastructure."

Stick them in Birkenhead Docklands and they’ll be on the small boats to Ireland soon enough. Job done.

sturginho wrote: ↑Mon Jun 12, 2023 3:44 pm You'll recall that Picard would say "make it so" after Data and Geordi had told him what their solution was

Which usually seemed to involve doing something hopelessly dangerous with the plasma conduits and warp core, an option that Tories would no doubt suggest unironically if a SPAD told them to

tabascoboy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 12, 2023 5:03 pm

sturginho wrote: ↑Mon Jun 12, 2023 3:44 pm You'll recall that Picard would say "make it so" after Data and Geordi had told him what their solution was

Which usually seemed to involve doing something hopelessly dangerous with the plasma conduits and warp core, an option that Tories would no doubt suggest unironically if a SPAD told them to

and then when it all goes tits up !

fishfoodie wrote: ↑Mon Jun 12, 2023 12:19 pm How much money did Cruella piss away on this latest moronic idea ?

You say piss away, they say a successful transfer of public money to a donor's pockets.

Stuff property or the markets, the best returns can be had investing in the Conservative Party.

Hal Jordan wrote: ↑Mon Jun 12, 2023 8:25 pm

fishfoodie wrote: ↑Mon Jun 12, 2023 12:19 pm How much money did Cruella piss away on this latest moronic idea ?

You say piss away, they say a successful transfer of public money to a donor's pockets.

Stuff property or the markets, the best returns can be had investing in the Conservative Party.

Forgive me, I should have said, "spaffed up the wall"

Looking forward to today's Tory schism show.
The gloves are off now wind them up and watch them go.
Hopefully the privileges committee will also implicate other Tory scum and some alleged law breaking.

Blue on blue carnage.

Doesn't the tory party have more milfs in their ranks?

GogLais wrote: ↑Mon Jun 12, 2023 10:06 am

Tichtheid wrote: ↑Mon Jun 12, 2023 8:42 am From Wiki


Charlotte Kathryn Tranter Owen (born 1993)[1][2] is a British former special adviser.[3] In June 2023 it was announced that she was to be granted a life peerage in the 2022 Prime Minister's Resignation Honours.[4] Owen will be the youngest life peer in British history.[5]

Owen graduated from the University of York in 2015, gaining a 2:1 in Politics and International Relations.[6] She is not known to have any formal professional qualifications or experience of work. She worked as an intern and parliamentary assistant, before joining the 'Number 10' Political Unit as a special adviser in an unknown role under successive prime ministers Boris Johnson and Liz Truss.[7] [8] In her special adviser role, Owen worked 50% for Boris Johnson, and 50% for the Chief Whip and Parliamentary Secretary to the Treasury, Chris Heaton-Harris. At the time, there was much speculation given her modest achievements, as to what significant contribution to British society was made to justify the ennoblement.

Dear God, what have we become? It just seems impossible to change anything for the better. How have we got to a situation where one person, discredited or otherwise, can choose people that might be in Parliament for the next sixty years? I was pretty pissed off when Botham got a seat in the HoL.

If the PM can't give their illegitimate child a life peerage and cushy career what kind of country have we become indeed. Aristocracy (your family holding positions of power remember) is the backbone of this country.

I like neeps wrote: ↑Tue Jun 13, 2023 2:27 pm

GogLais wrote: ↑Mon Jun 12, 2023 10:06 am

Tichtheid wrote: ↑Mon Jun 12, 2023 8:42 am From Wiki


Charlotte Kathryn Tranter Owen (born 1993)[1][2] is a British former special adviser.[3] In June 2023 it was announced that she was to be granted a life peerage in the 2022 Prime Minister's Resignation Honours.[4] Owen will be the youngest life peer in British history.[5]

Owen graduated from the University of York in 2015, gaining a 2:1 in Politics and International Relations.[6] She is not known to have any formal professional qualifications or experience of work. She worked as an intern and parliamentary assistant, before joining the 'Number 10' Political Unit as a special adviser in an unknown role under successive prime ministers Boris Johnson and Liz Truss.[7] [8] In her special adviser role, Owen worked 50% for Boris Johnson, and 50% for the Chief Whip and Parliamentary Secretary to the Treasury, Chris Heaton-Harris. At the time, there was much speculation given her modest achievements, as to what significant contribution to British society was made to justify the ennoblement.

Dear God, what have we become? It just seems impossible to change anything for the better. How have we got to a situation where one person, discredited or otherwise, can choose people that might be in Parliament for the next sixty years? I was pretty pissed off when Botham got a seat in the HoL.

If the PM can't give their illegitimate child a life peerage and cushy career what kind of country have we become indeed. Aristocracy (your family holding positions of power remember) is the backbone of this country.

Except in this case Boris doesn't appear to have that excuse for giving her a life peerage as there is no evidence she is related to him. Perhaps she is the latest young blonde to give him computer lessons?

Rachel McLean on BBC Politics unable to describe in any way the government assistance that’s available for mortgage holders. And she’s gets pretty ratty about it as well.

Rachel McLean is the Housing Minister.

Biffer wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2023 6:57 pm Rachel McLean on BBC Politics unable to describe in any way the government assistance that’s available for mortgage holders. And she’s gets pretty ratty about it as well.

Rachel McLean is the Housing Minister.

That has just reminded me of something from a long time ago, Ben Elton on tv, he had a long array of pictures of people and asked if we the audience recognised any of them.

There were a couple I knew but not that many. They were the cabinet members of the time - Major was Chancellor under Thatcher, just to give a time stamp

It's like that now, a bunch of nonentities who have been scraped from under the bottom of the barrel, I think of myself as a political nerd but I don't who half of these people are.

Tichtheid wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2023 7:14 pm

Biffer wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2023 6:57 pm Rachel McLean on BBC Politics unable to describe in any way the government assistance that’s available for mortgage holders. And she’s gets pretty ratty about it as well.

Rachel McLean is the Housing Minister.

That has just reminded me of something from a long time ago, Ben Elton on tv, he had a long array of pictures of people and asked if we the audience recognised any of them.

There were a couple I knew but not that many. They were the cabinet members of the time - Major was Chancellor under Thatcher, just to give a time stamp

It's like that now, a bunch of nonentities who have been scraped from under the bottom of the barrel, I think of myself as a political nerd but I don't who half of these people are.

Yeah, I know what you mean. I probably know one or two more than most people, because I work in an arms length govt body, but fuck me the paucity of any kind of talent is unbelievable.

Pretty damning Boris Johnson report.
Suspended for 90 days for lying etc.

I mean our whole society is based in one lie after another, has been since the days of trickle down economics.
Otherwise we would tax the wealthy, their think tanks, their media until they just fucked off.

90 days !

I think that contempt of parliament.(lying in parliament) should really result in a prison sentence. The toughest sanction is 90 days expulsion from the House, that is tame.

I like neeps wrote: ↑Thu Jun 15, 2023 8:23 am I think that contempt of parliament.(lying in parliament) should really result in a prison sentence. The toughest sanction is 90 days expulsion from the House, that is tame.

I agree with all this, but under the current rules that is a massive sanction and it's no wonder he ran away.

Biffer wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2023 7:16 pm

Tichtheid wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2023 7:14 pm

Biffer wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2023 6:57 pm Rachel McLean on BBC Politics unable to describe in any way the government assistance that’s available for mortgage holders. And she’s gets pretty ratty about it as well.

Rachel McLean is the Housing Minister.

That has just reminded me of something from a long time ago, Ben Elton on tv, he had a long array of pictures of people and asked if we the audience recognised any of them.

There were a couple I knew but not that many. They were the cabinet members of the time - Major was Chancellor under Thatcher, just to give a time stamp

It's like that now, a bunch of nonentities who have been scraped from under the bottom of the barrel, I think of myself as a political nerd but I don't who half of these people are.

Yeah, I know what you mean. I probably know one or two more than most people, because I work in an arms length govt body, but fuck me the paucity of any kind of talent is unbelievable.

I guess it also comes down to a lack of any long term planning by any government. How are they meant to make a difference or get on top of their portfolio if they are only there for a few months or a couple of years.