Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread
Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2023 7:01 pm
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From Disco’s table it looks like we need to win by 21 clear points, but Ireland get a try bp for us both to go through, which would be my preferred option.clydecloggie wrote: ↑Mon Oct 02, 2023 8:39 am I like the 5-1 5-point win scenario. At least the margin of victory is not beyond the realm of the possible. Such a shame there's only ever been one 5-1 result in the history of the RWC I believe.
But still, Scotland score 4 tries, Ireland let Sexton do his thing but only score 2 or 3 tries...final result 28-23. Yes, this is the scenario.
I am still entirely without hope.
I was originally of the opinion that this would happen, only because it is the most Scottish way.Yr Alban wrote: ↑Sun Oct 01, 2023 4:54 pm It’s going to happen, isn’t it? We’ll produce our best performance in years, record our first victory over Ireland in forever, and still go home because they get a LBP. Probably from a drop goal from bloody Sexton with the clock red.
What could be more Scottish than that?
Pretty much our only chance in this game would be an early red for Ireland, but clearly that won’t happen even if it should. The reverse scenario is depressingly likely, and it would happen exactly as you say. Nothing like as dangerous as any of the ones that were penalties or yellows against us, but promptly upgraded to red by the bunker. I can 100% see this happening.C T wrote: ↑Mon Oct 02, 2023 9:17 amI was originally of the opinion that this would happen, only because it is the most Scottish way.Yr Alban wrote: ↑Sun Oct 01, 2023 4:54 pm It’s going to happen, isn’t it? We’ll produce our best performance in years, record our first victory over Ireland in forever, and still go home because they get a LBP. Probably from a drop goal from bloody Sexton with the clock red.
What could be more Scottish than that?
Now though I think one of our players gets a red for a very soft shoulder to the face of an Ireland player within the first 20 and we go on to get pumped.
You know, barely a penalty kind of thing. Much less severe than the 5 or so times its happened to us in 3 games.
Unless Ireland and Scotland both decide to fuck SA over and do exactly this, which would probably melt the Internet and bring forth the Apocalypse, so I'm all for it.Tichtheid wrote: ↑Mon Oct 02, 2023 8:59 amFrom Disco’s table it looks like we need to win by 21 clear points, but Ireland get a try bp for us both to go through, which would be my preferred option.clydecloggie wrote: ↑Mon Oct 02, 2023 8:39 am I like the 5-1 5-point win scenario. At least the margin of victory is not beyond the realm of the possible. Such a shame there's only ever been one 5-1 result in the history of the RWC I believe.
But still, Scotland score 4 tries, Ireland let Sexton do his thing but only score 2 or 3 tries...final result 28-23. Yes, this is the scenario.
I am still entirely without hope.
Not very likely, unfortunately
clydecloggie wrote: ↑Mon Oct 02, 2023 9:33 amUnless Ireland and Scotland both decide to fuck SA over and do exactly this, which would probably melt the Internet and bring forth the Apocalypse, so I'm all for it.Tichtheid wrote: ↑Mon Oct 02, 2023 8:59 amFrom Disco’s table it looks like we need to win by 21 clear points, but Ireland get a try bp for us both to go through, which would be my preferred option.clydecloggie wrote: ↑Mon Oct 02, 2023 8:39 am I like the 5-1 5-point win scenario. At least the margin of victory is not beyond the realm of the possible. Such a shame there's only ever been one 5-1 result in the history of the RWC I believe.
But still, Scotland score 4 tries, Ireland let Sexton do his thing but only score 2 or 3 tries...final result 28-23. Yes, this is the scenario.
I am still entirely without hope.
Not very likely, unfortunately
I don't know about the rumours, but I assumed there must be more to his exit from camp than the official story. He's not the only player to get a concussion during the period but he's the only one to go home.
Congrats on getting name checked by Rassie himself!
What are you on about mate>?Theflier wrote: ↑Mon Oct 02, 2023 11:54 am I don't usually come to NPR, but thought I might to see the melt down.
The rules have just been changed, so it states the top two spots are decided on Points Difference in the case of a 3 way tie.
So yesterday the scots were through with a 4-0 win(most likely) now its either 5-0, or 5-1/4-0 AND a 25 point winning margin.
Harsh.
World rugby have just changed the rules, so before you guys needed a 4-0 win, but now they are saying if the teams are level on points, the head to head doesn't count, its points difference nowSlick wrote: ↑Mon Oct 02, 2023 12:30 pmWhat are you on about mate>?Theflier wrote: ↑Mon Oct 02, 2023 11:54 am I don't usually come to NPR, but thought I might to see the melt down.
The rules have just been changed, so it states the top two spots are decided on Points Difference in the case of a 3 way tie.
So yesterday the scots were through with a 4-0 win(most likely) now its either 5-0, or 5-1/4-0 AND a 25 point winning margin.
Harsh.
I was hoping nobody would engage them.Slick wrote: ↑Mon Oct 02, 2023 12:30 pmWhat are you on about mate>?Theflier wrote: ↑Mon Oct 02, 2023 11:54 am I don't usually come to NPR, but thought I might to see the melt down.
The rules have just been changed, so it states the top two spots are decided on Points Difference in the case of a 3 way tie.
So yesterday the scots were through with a 4-0 win(most likely) now its either 5-0, or 5-1/4-0 AND a 25 point winning margin.
Harsh.
I'm not winding you up, it was believed that say the pool finishes all on 15 and SA top on points(highly likely) that the Irish and scottish would come to the head to head, but that's been changed to PD, its on the rugy world cup social media pages if you want to checkJock42 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 02, 2023 12:42 pmI was hoping nobody would engage them.Slick wrote: ↑Mon Oct 02, 2023 12:30 pmWhat are you on about mate>?Theflier wrote: ↑Mon Oct 02, 2023 11:54 am I don't usually come to NPR, but thought I might to see the melt down.
The rules have just been changed, so it states the top two spots are decided on Points Difference in the case of a 3 way tie.
So yesterday the scots were through with a 4-0 win(most likely) now its either 5-0, or 5-1/4-0 AND a 25 point winning margin.
Harsh.
at what point does POM poleaxe the Ref, to make sure a penalty try is awarded ?clydecloggie wrote: ↑Mon Oct 02, 2023 2:16 pm
I can already see it; Ireland deliberately fouling in midfield, half-heartedly contesting the maul only for the Scottish replacement hooker to knock it on while grounding the ball. we will be arguing whether he did it deliberately for the rest of eternity.
Let's do it.
That’s kind of my thinking. Huwipolotu has gone off the boil slightly for whatever reason, so throw him in and mix it up.
Pretty certain this is an error by whoever runs their social media accounts. Permutations post on World Rugby's own site is consistent with the PD etc. to decide first then back up to Criterion 1 (head to head) to decide second:Theflier wrote: ↑Mon Oct 02, 2023 1:01 pmI'm not winding you up, it was believed that say the pool finishes all on 15 and SA top on points(highly likely) that the Irish and scottish would come to the head to head, but that's been changed to PD, its on the rugy world cup social media pages if you want to check
Could be an error on their part of course, but given it benefits the Irish, I'd keep an eye out
Yeah he has played for Montpellier in recent weeks. I liked what I saw of him for Bath last season.
Are Huwipoltu off the boil? They got bugger all useable ball due to the exceptional bok defence. They were good against France IIRC.
Maybe slightly harsh, but not tearing it up like last season. Reckon this is their type of game thoughBig D wrote: ↑Tue Oct 03, 2023 8:32 amAre Huwipoltu off the boil? They got bugger all useable ball due to the exceptional bok defence. They were good against France IIRC.
There are some parallels to 2019 here and in 2019 the centre selection was all over the shop too:
Not laying a glove one of pool favourites.
Not the best performance but sufficient enough to beat a PI team.
Gub the groups weak link
Will we turn up in the last, must win group game
I would agree with that, the only caveat being about a quarter of the Murrayfield crowd for internationals seems to be private school yahoos.Tichtheid wrote: ↑Tue Oct 03, 2023 10:39 am
I may have told this story before, but on the Gruaniad's comments section there was a guy who had worked in the BBC Sport dept in Glasgow. He reckoned there was a definite inverse snobbery in the Scottish media when it came to rugby, it was dismissed as this posh boy sport and actively hated by the majority of those who worked in the industry in Scotland.
There is nowhere in the Borders that has a posh boy team, even when I played in the 80s and 90s the FP teams in Edinburgh and Glasgow were becoming open.
I'm of the opinion that the private schools actually saved the sport as a going concern in Scotland and I really couldn't care that some players were good enough to win scholarships at the likes of Strathallan and Merchiston before going on to represent Scotland.
The point I'm trying to make is that the image of a posh boy sport is one that is promulgated from outside the game itself.
I have to say that when I moved back up I was quite surprised at how "working class" rugby was up here, outside the FP clubs obviously. Haven't understood the posh boy narrative. In saying that, with a good few of the current Scotland team, including the wonder boy, coming from pretty normal backgrounds I would have expected the SRU to have made a bit more of itBiffer wrote: ↑Tue Oct 03, 2023 12:13 pmI would agree with that, the only caveat being about a quarter of the Murrayfield crowd for internationals seems to be private school yahoos.Tichtheid wrote: ↑Tue Oct 03, 2023 10:39 am
I may have told this story before, but on the Gruaniad's comments section there was a guy who had worked in the BBC Sport dept in Glasgow. He reckoned there was a definite inverse snobbery in the Scottish media when it came to rugby, it was dismissed as this posh boy sport and actively hated by the majority of those who worked in the industry in Scotland.
There is nowhere in the Borders that has a posh boy team, even when I played in the 80s and 90s the FP teams in Edinburgh and Glasgow were becoming open.
I'm of the opinion that the private schools actually saved the sport as a going concern in Scotland and I really couldn't care that some players were good enough to win scholarships at the likes of Strathallan and Merchiston before going on to represent Scotland.
The point I'm trying to make is that the image of a posh boy sport is one that is promulgated from outside the game itself.