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assfly wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 9:34 am I see that Rassie has released a 1 hour video on his "reflections".

Don't have the time to watch the whole thing, but looks like it's going to shake things up a bit more.

Will someone please post a summary

Chilli wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 9:58 am

assfly wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 9:34 am I see that Rassie has released a 1 hour video on his "reflections".

Don't have the time to watch the whole thing, but looks like it's going to shake things up a bit more.

Will someone please post a summary

Linky?

Chilli wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 9:58 am Linky?

Margin__Walker wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 9:54 am I've never seen someone in his position undermining refereeing performance to this extent. It's pathetic. Any analyst can watch a game of rugby and make a video with lots of pretty yellow circles highlighting opposition indiscretions. The last thing someone in his position should be doing is waging a campaign like this.

Biffer wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:09 am The main reason South Africa will lose is because your director of rugby has lost his fucking mind.

sorCrer wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:10 am

Margin__Walker wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 9:54 am I've never seen someone in his position undermining refereeing performance to this extent. It's pathetic. Any analyst can watch a game of rugby and make a video with lots of pretty yellow circles highlighting opposition indiscretions. The last thing someone in his position should be doing is waging a campaign like this.

It's the very first thing Gatland did? Started with the Faf yellow and then ranted to world media about Jonker not being impartial?

sorCrer wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:10 am

Margin__Walker wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 9:54 am I've never seen someone in his position undermining refereeing performance to this extent. It's pathetic. Any analyst can watch a game of rugby and make a video with lots of pretty yellow circles highlighting opposition indiscretions. The last thing someone in his position should be doing is waging a campaign like this.

It's the very first thing Gatland did? Started with the Faf yellow and then ranted to world media about Jonker not being impartial?

Margin__Walker wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:17 am

sorCrer wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:10 am

Margin__Walker wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 9:54 am I've never seen someone in his position undermining refereeing performance to this extent. It's pathetic. Any analyst can watch a game of rugby and make a video with lots of pretty yellow circles highlighting opposition indiscretions. The last thing someone in his position should be doing is waging a campaign like this.

It's the very first thing Gatland did? Started with the Faf yellow and then ranted to world media about Jonker not being impartial?

Coaches (and DORs) often comment on potential red card incidents. Not great, but it happens. A non neutral TMO is very much out of the ordinary for a test series and worthy of comment.

Hour long videos and burner Twitter accounts bitching about every single decision down to not straight throws, not so much.

You comfortable with Rassie's latest content then?

The complaining about Faf's yellow was quite vociferous and pretty unbecoming from the Lions camp. They have been very quiet since last weekend's game.

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:16 am

sorCrer wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:10 am

Margin__Walker wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 9:54 am I've never seen someone in his position undermining refereeing performance to this extent. It's pathetic. Any analyst can watch a game of rugby and make a video with lots of pretty yellow circles highlighting opposition indiscretions. The last thing someone in his position should be doing is waging a campaign like this.

It's the very first thing Gatland did? Started with the Faf yellow and then ranted to world media about Jonker not being impartial?

To which Rassie responded in kind.

And now he's gone off the fucking deep end.

duke wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:36 am

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:16 am

sorCrer wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:10 am
It's the very first thing Gatland did? Started with the Faf yellow and then ranted to world media about Jonker not being impartial?

To which Rassie responded in kind.

And now he's gone off the fucking deep end.

Is this Rassie's equivalent to Woodward and Campbell on the 05 Tour?

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:36 am

duke wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:36 am

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:16 am

To which Rassie responded in kind.

And now he's gone off the fucking deep end.

Is this Rassie's equivalent to Woodward and Campbell on the 05 Tour?

Worse, I reckon. He's complaining about offsides and Kolbe being challenged in the air, not BOD being speared off the ball and put in hospital.

sorCrer wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:11 am

Biffer wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:09 am The main reason South Africa will lose is because your director of rugby has lost his fucking mind.

Corrected.

Biffer wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:47 am

sorCrer wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:11 am

Biffer wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:09 am The main reason South Africa will lose is because your director of rugby has lost his fucking mind.

Corrected.

And now your coach has said he hung Kwagga Smith out to dry by not getting the tactics right. So he's dropped him.

Is it any wonder all your young guys want to come and play for Scotland if they're going to be treated like that?

handyman wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:50 am

Biffer wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:47 am

sorCrer wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:11 am

Corrected.

And now your coach has said he hung Kwagga Smith out to dry by not getting the tactics right. So he's dropped him.

Is it any wonder all your young guys want to come and play for Scotland if they're going to be treated like that?

Isn't it the players that don't get contracts in Japan, France, England, Ireland or Wales that end up in Scotland?

dpedin wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:56 am

handyman wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:50 am

Biffer wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:47 am



And now your coach has said he hung Kwagga Smith out to dry by not getting the tactics right. So he's dropped him.

Is it any wonder all your young guys want to come and play for Scotland if they're going to be treated like that?

Isn't it the players that don't get contracts in Japan, France, England, Ireland or Wales that end up in Scotland?

Yeh - we just fix them up properly after they have been broken elsewhere and send them to the Lions.

sorCrer wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:28 am

Margin__Walker wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:17 am

sorCrer wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:10 am
It's the very first thing Gatland did? Started with the Faf yellow and then ranted to world media about Jonker not being impartial?

Coaches (and DORs) often comment on potential red card incidents. Not great, but it happens. A non neutral TMO is very much out of the ordinary for a test series and worthy of comment.

Hour long videos and burner Twitter accounts bitching about every single decision down to not straight throws, not so much.

You comfortable with Rassie's latest content then?

Not comfortable with it but it seems to be the way rugby (and society in general) is going. I did find the bit about the Kolbe tackle and not rolling away quite interesting especially seeing as it happens in front of Berry and is in a kickable position. IMO the Lions have been offside at rucks a lot on the whole tour and not called for it.

The complaining about Faf's yellow was quite vociferous and pretty unbecoming from the Lions camp. They have been very quiet since last weekend's game.

assfly wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 11:31 am I've just watched the whole thing. I suggest that anybody who wants to climb into Rassie does the same.

His reasons for doing the video are clear; World Rugby have not given him the time to discuss his concerns. I'm not sure I'm comfortable with a video like this going into the public domain, but his frustrations are clear.

Regarding the points he raises, he does make very good points. I totally missed the spear tackle by Duhan on Mapimpi after Am's hit on Daly. I'm sure if Gatland did the same thing, he'd pick up on a lot of things too, but Rassie put's forward a very damning case against the match officials.

I don't think anybody is going to come away from this looking good.

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assfly wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 11:31 am I've just watched the whole thing. I suggest that anybody who wants to climb into Rassie does the same.

His reasons for doing the video are clear; World Rugby have not given him the time to discuss his concerns. I'm not sure I'm comfortable with a video like this going into the public domain, but his frustrations are clear.

Regarding the points he raises, he does make very good points. I totally missed the spear tackle by Duhan on Mapimpi after Am's hit on Daly. I'm sure if Gatland did the same thing, he'd pick up on a lot of things too, but Rassie put's forward a very damning case against the match officials.

I don't think anybody is going to come away from this looking good.

Raggs wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 11:35 am Picking out a few dangerous tackles etc, OK. Picking out every possible ruck offence, and worse, not straight lineouts? Come on.

assfly wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 11:31 am I've just watched the whole thing. I suggest that anybody who wants to climb into Rassie does the same.

His reasons for doing the video are clear; World Rugby have not given him the time to discuss his concerns. I'm not sure I'm comfortable with a video like this going into the public domain, but his frustrations are clear.

Regarding the points he raises, he does make very good points. I totally missed the spear tackle by Duhan on Mapimpi after Am's hit on Daly. I'm sure if Gatland did the same thing, he'd pick up on a lot of things too, but Rassie put's forward a very damning case against the match officials.

I don't think anybody is going to come away from this looking good.

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 11:39 am I feel like anyone who thinks Rassie is making really good points here is going to have their mind blown by anyone who goes through a replay of a rugby match looking for shit that wasn't picked up or was incorrectly called

assfly wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 11:38 am often in kickable positions.

assfly wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 11:42 am

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 11:39 am I feel like anyone who thinks Rassie is making really good points here is going to have their mind blown by anyone who goes through a replay of a rugby match looking for shit that wasn't picked up or was incorrectly called

I agree, I'm sure Gatland could do the same. Boks weren't angels.

I applaud Rassie for raising these issues, but for the sake of our game I don't think it should be done in the public domain like this.

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 11:42 am I don't think there's anything to applaud. Everyone knows plenty of stuff is missed. He's being incredibly self-serving and deeply disingenuous.

assfly wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 11:31 am I've just watched the whole thing. I suggest that anybody who wants to climb into Rassie does the same.

His reasons for doing the video are clear; World Rugby have not given him the time to discuss his concerns. I'm not sure I'm comfortable with a video like this going into the public domain, but his frustrations are clear.

Regarding the points he raises, he does make very good points. I totally missed the spear tackle by Duhan on Mapimpi after Am's hit on Daly. I'm sure if Gatland did the same thing, he'd pick up on a lot of things too, but Rassie put's forward a very damning case against the match officials.

I don't think anybody is going to come away from this looking good.

Sards wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 11:47 am They should ban Rassie from the match tbh. For everyone's sanity

Big D wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 11:41 am Imagine the shit that Gatland or Eddie Jones would get for doing something like this.

Gatland got grief for pointing out not having a neutral TMO wasn't a good look.

handyman wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 11:48 am Would you say the video is warranted? Is it as bad as some posters have made it out to be? I can only have a look tonight.

Sards wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 11:37 am

This series is going to be remembered for Rassie going mental.