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Calculon wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 8:52 am
fishfoodie wrote: Thu Oct 21, 2021 11:01 pm A Long read; but a lesson in being thankful for everyday.


https://www.bbc.com/sport/cricket/58725016

... and I'm sure those phone calls help that paramedic get out of bed every day :thumbup:
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High stakes game between Ireland and Namibia coming up. Shame to see either team go out.
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handyman wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 8:29 am I would never write the Windies off in the shortest format of the game. Too many players that can win a game on their own.
They'll beat India and get hammered by the Deshis.
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FalseBayFC wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 9:06 am High stakes game between Ireland and Namibia coming up. Shame to see either team go out.
I don't know about that
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Slick wrote: Thu Oct 21, 2021 9:57 pm
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Exactly. For rugby you could obviously go further v England, we seem to have their number at the moment, and France 2020&21. Just need to improve the results v Ireland and Wales.

Definitely seems to be a positivity around the fitba team. Not sure if the quality is much better but the heads don’t go down like they used to and they play for the win for the full 90+
The weird thing about the fitba team is that they seem to have developed the knack of snatching victory from the jaws of defeat, rather than vice versa as is traditional. Made the Euro finals by winning two games on penalties (after giving up a last minute equaliser v Serbia). More recently they won away in Vienna when only that would do, and have ground out late wins v Israel and the Faroes to put themselves one win v Moldova away from the World Cup playoffs. The opposition hasn’t exactly been top drawer, but these are the games in which Scotland teams have been falling over for years.

Pleased for the cricket team. The only problem is that I absolutely cannot stand cricket. It’s the world’s worst excuse for a sport.
Ahh, you just haven’t watched it with the right people. 15 years ago I couldn’t stand the game, now I think I’d pick a day at a test match above pretty much anything else (6Nations excepted)
I was forced to play it at school and have disliked it ever since. Mind you, I could say the same about rugby and football, and I love both now. In a UK context though (I’m phrasing this very carefully to avoid howls of rage from non-UK based posters) it has always seemed quintessentially English. More English than a vicar cycling across the village green singing Jerusalem.
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These Irish lads like their pies.
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Yr Alban wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 10:10 am In a UK context though (I’m phrasing this very carefully to avoid howls of rage from non-UK based posters) it has always seemed quintessentially English. More English than a vicar cycling across the village green singing Jerusalem.
It is exactly that. But not everything in regards English culture is a bad thing.
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Pie eating openers back in the hut.
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FalseBayFC wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 10:41 am Pie eating openers back in the hut.
Probably got hungry.
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Torquemada 1420 wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 10:13 am
Yr Alban wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 10:10 am In a UK context though (I’m phrasing this very carefully to avoid howls of rage from non-UK based posters) it has always seemed quintessentially English. More English than a vicar cycling across the village green singing Jerusalem.
It is exactly that. But not everything in regards English culture is a bad thing.
Of course not. I just don’t particularly want to celebrate it.
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Ire 84/2 after 12 - good base for a big push - heading for 160?
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Insane_Homer wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 10:56 am Ire 84/2 after 12 - good base for a big push - heading for 160?
Doubt it. They've been strangled. Would have been worse were it not for the retard decision by Namib not to review the plum LBW.
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Cricket absolutely has a special place in English culture and certainly occupies a space in my conception of my country. No doubt it has inhibited the growth of the sport in Ireland and Scotland (I remember I think Ed Joyce talking about how people used to yell at him for being a West Brit on the DART when they saw his cricket kit, now mentions kids today get people talking about the team's success).

With all that said at the end of the day it is a sport and a really great one at that once you get into it, and every country has it's own way of interacting with it. I.e. cricket is the or a national sport in Australia, India, Pakistan and much of the Caribbean and their conception of the sport is wildly different to what you see in England (incidentally the interaction between some of these has caused no end of disciplinary issues in club cricket).

I'd hope Scotland can follow Ireland - it's not about to boom in popularity to rival football but hopefully some success will lead to less dismissal of the sport as simply an English import. There's much more cricket in Scotland than people initially think and plenty that could be built on.
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Oh boy - Ireland really crapping the bed.
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Thor Sedan wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 11:24 am Oh boy - Ireland really crapping the bed.
I don't think this is an easy wicket to score runs on BUT Namibia can afford to risk a couple of players going full bore, pinch hitting. Just needs someone to get lucky for 3 overs and that could decide it.
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Thor Sedan wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 11:24 am Oh boy - Ireland really crapping the bed.
Looks like a difficult pitch once the ball gets a bit softer. They'll need to keep things really tight in the powerplay. when they bowl.
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FM, after so much good work, total clusterf**k off the last ball.
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Was going to say how impressively clinical Namibia had been until that final ball calamity.

Think this will be a difficult chase, hard to get away on this pitch.
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Torquemada 1420 wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 11:26 am
Thor Sedan wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 11:24 am Oh boy - Ireland really crapping the bed.
I don't think this is an easy wicket to score runs on BUT Namibia can afford to risk a couple of players going full bore, pinch hitting. Just needs someone to get lucky for 3 overs and that could decide it.
This is theoretically true but often the associates are very reliant on the people who can feasibly go full bore getting proper runs.
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Torquemada 1420 wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 9:29 am
handyman wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 8:29 am I would never write the Windies off in the shortest format of the game. Too many players that can win a game on their own.
They'll beat India and get hammered by the Deshis.
Sounds about right.
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Torquemada 1420 wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 10:57 am
Insane_Homer wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 10:56 am Ire 84/2 after 12 - good base for a big push - heading for 160?
Doubt it. They've been strangled. Would have been worse were it not for the retard decision by Namib not to review the plum LBW.
right on. 125/8 might not be enough.
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Paddington Bear wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 11:03 am Cricket absolutely has a special place in English culture and certainly occupies a space in my conception of my country. No doubt it has inhibited the growth of the sport in Ireland and Scotland (I remember I think Ed Joyce talking about how people used to yell at him for being a West Brit on the DART when they saw his cricket kit, now mentions kids today get people talking about the team's success).

With all that said at the end of the day it is a sport and a really great one at that once you get into it, and every country has it's own way of interacting with it. I.e. cricket is the or a national sport in Australia, India, Pakistan and much of the Caribbean and their conception of the sport is wildly different to what you see in England (incidentally the interaction between some of these has caused no end of disciplinary issues in club cricket).

I'd hope Scotland can follow Ireland - it's not about to boom in popularity to rival football but hopefully some success will lead to less dismissal of the sport as simply an English import. There's much more cricket in Scotland than people initially think and plenty that could be built on.
Unfortunately, I think the weather puts a natural break on how successful cricket can be in Scotland
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Ireland looking a little on the back foot here.
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Green needs to get going or get out.

{EDIT} FFS. Misses out on a rank full toss then dawdles on an easy 2.

{EDIT 2} Put that one down to his P ranking up the pressure. :thumbdown:
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Very good catch that - to get rid of the more dangerous opener.
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Slick wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 12:06 pm
Paddington Bear wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 11:03 am Cricket absolutely has a special place in English culture and certainly occupies a space in my conception of my country. No doubt it has inhibited the growth of the sport in Ireland and Scotland (I remember I think Ed Joyce talking about how people used to yell at him for being a West Brit on the DART when they saw his cricket kit, now mentions kids today get people talking about the team's success).

With all that said at the end of the day it is a sport and a really great one at that once you get into it, and every country has it's own way of interacting with it. I.e. cricket is the or a national sport in Australia, India, Pakistan and much of the Caribbean and their conception of the sport is wildly different to what you see in England (incidentally the interaction between some of these has caused no end of disciplinary issues in club cricket).

I'd hope Scotland can follow Ireland - it's not about to boom in popularity to rival football but hopefully some success will lead to less dismissal of the sport as simply an English import. There's much more cricket in Scotland than people initially think and plenty that could be built on.
Unfortunately, I think the weather puts a natural break on how successful cricket can be in Scotland
Yes, though if say Durham and Cumbria can produce a significant number of top class cricketers there is no reason why Edinburgh and the Lothians can't as well.
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More sh*te captaining on reviews.
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That looked the only way Green was getting a boundary.

{EDIT} Tavare and Boycott at the crease.......
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Nambia batting themselves into a hole here by waiting for the bad ball to smash and then snatching at it. Ireland basically offering them one a ball and they're not taking it. Couple of wickets and it's all but all over.
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Slick wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 12:06 pm
Paddington Bear wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 11:03 am Cricket absolutely has a special place in English culture and certainly occupies a space in my conception of my country. No doubt it has inhibited the growth of the sport in Ireland and Scotland (I remember I think Ed Joyce talking about how people used to yell at him for being a West Brit on the DART when they saw his cricket kit, now mentions kids today get people talking about the team's success).

With all that said at the end of the day it is a sport and a really great one at that once you get into it, and every country has it's own way of interacting with it. I.e. cricket is the or a national sport in Australia, India, Pakistan and much of the Caribbean and their conception of the sport is wildly different to what you see in England (incidentally the interaction between some of these has caused no end of disciplinary issues in club cricket).

I'd hope Scotland can follow Ireland - it's not about to boom in popularity to rival football but hopefully some success will lead to less dismissal of the sport as simply an English import. There's much more cricket in Scotland than people initially think and plenty that could be built on.
Unfortunately, I think the weather puts a natural break on how successful cricket can be in Scotland
I was just going to say that. Cricket is a lot more prevalent in Scotland than most would think. I grew up in a small east coast town in the 70s/80s where cricket was and is very popular, second only to football.

Here in Aberdeen, cricket is quite popular, I live less than 1/2 a mile from Aberdeenshire CC’s Mannofield ground which hosted Scotland v England only 7 or 8 years ago, it appears to be a very active club with busy sessions every day throughout *summer. During *summer it’s quite common to find cricket being played all over the city, granted this heavily involves the local Indian/Pakistani/Bangladeshi communities but certainly not exclusively.

* this is the big problem, some years, I have barely seen any cricket being played at Mannofield when I’m walking or driving past - covers down, raining, flag almost being ripped off the pole. Aberdeen is also much drier than most of Scotland so I’m sure it’s worse elsewhere, particularly on the west coast. Unlike traditionally popular outdoor sports in Scotland - football, golf, rugby where weather is rarely a huge factor, cricket demands it to be dry at the very least.
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Paddington Bear wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 12:29 pm Nambia batting themselves into a hole here by waiting for the bad ball to smash and then snatching at it. Ireland basically offering them one a ball and they're not taking it. Couple of wickets and it's all but all over.
Pressure building now. 79 off 60 balls. Hard to score on this pitch.
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Paddington Bear wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 12:29 pm Nambia batting themselves into a hole here by waiting for the bad ball to smash and then snatching at it. Ireland basically offering them one a ball and they're not taking it. Couple of wickets and it's all but all over.
Yes: needed some early aggression to pressurise Ireland. Instead Green has played exactly how the men in green would have wished. He's a liability with his running too.
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Torquemada 1420 wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 12:32 pm
Paddington Bear wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 12:29 pm Nambia batting themselves into a hole here by waiting for the bad ball to smash and then snatching at it. Ireland basically offering them one a ball and they're not taking it. Couple of wickets and it's all but all over.
Yes: needed some early aggression to pressurise Ireland. Instead Green has played exactly how the men in green would have wished. He's a liability with his running too.
Run out seems a matter of time right now.
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FFS Erasmus, run him out [/Botham]
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Ireland need wickets, Namibia need 55 runs in 42 balls.
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Tattie wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 12:29 pm
Slick wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 12:06 pm
Paddington Bear wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 11:03 am Cricket absolutely has a special place in English culture and certainly occupies a space in my conception of my country. No doubt it has inhibited the growth of the sport in Ireland and Scotland (I remember I think Ed Joyce talking about how people used to yell at him for being a West Brit on the DART when they saw his cricket kit, now mentions kids today get people talking about the team's success).

With all that said at the end of the day it is a sport and a really great one at that once you get into it, and every country has it's own way of interacting with it. I.e. cricket is the or a national sport in Australia, India, Pakistan and much of the Caribbean and their conception of the sport is wildly different to what you see in England (incidentally the interaction between some of these has caused no end of disciplinary issues in club cricket).

I'd hope Scotland can follow Ireland - it's not about to boom in popularity to rival football but hopefully some success will lead to less dismissal of the sport as simply an English import. There's much more cricket in Scotland than people initially think and plenty that could be built on.
Unfortunately, I think the weather puts a natural break on how successful cricket can be in Scotland
I was just going to say that. Cricket is a lot more prevalent in Scotland than most would think. I grew up in a small east coast town in the 70s/80s where cricket was and is very popular, second only to football.

Here in Aberdeen, cricket is quite popular, I live less than 1/2 a mile from Aberdeenshire CC’s Mannofield ground which hosted Scotland v England only 7 or 8 years ago, it appears to be a very active club with busy sessions every day throughout *summer. During *summer it’s quite common to find cricket being played all over the city, granted this heavily involves the local Indian/Pakistani/Bangladeshi communities but certainly not exclusively.

* this is the big problem, some years, I have barely seen any cricket being played at Mannofield when I’m walking or driving past - covers down, raining, flag almost being ripped off the pole. Aberdeen is also much drier than most of Scotland so I’m sure it’s worse elsewhere, particularly on the west coast. Unlike traditionally popular outdoor sports in Scotland - football, golf, rugby where weather is rarely a huge factor, cricket demands it to be dry at the very least.
Incidentally the ECB have (correctly) identified matches that are cancelled for rain as one of the biggest drivers of reduced participation. They have had for five years a so an initiative called 'Get the Game On', a lot of it modelled off experiences in the Aberdeenshire leagues. I've listened to a number of ECB talks about what they do up there that we should copy.
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Insane_Homer wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 12:50 pm Ireland need wickets, Namibia need 55 runs in 42 balls.
With Green blocking, it's far more than that as RR.
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30 balls too late for Namibia.
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Wiese looking to end this quickly.
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David Wiese going beast mode.
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