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Actor Alec Baldwin has spoken publicly for the first time since the accidental fatal shooting of cinematographer Halyna Hutchins on the set of Western film Rust, calling it a "one in a trillion episode".

The actor and his wife, Hilaria, stopped to speak to reporters on a roadside in Vermont, and while Baldwin said he could not comment on the ongoing investigation, he revealed Ms Hutchins was "my friend".
"We were a very, very well-oiled crew shooting a film together and then this horrible event happened," Baldwin said.

"A woman died. She was my friend... When I arrived in Santa Fe to start shooting, I took her to dinner."

Ymx wrote: ↑Sun Oct 31, 2021 9:40 am

Actor Alec Baldwin has spoken publicly for the first time since the accidental fatal shooting of cinematographer Halyna Hutchins on the set of Western film Rust, calling it a "one in a trillion episode".

The actor and his wife, Hilaria, stopped to speak to reporters on a roadside in Vermont, and while Baldwin said he could not comment on the ongoing investigation, he revealed Ms Hutchins was "my friend".
"We were a very, very well-oiled crew shooting a film together and then this horrible event happened," Baldwin said.

"A woman died. She was my friend... When I arrived in Santa Fe to start shooting, I took her to dinner."

After reading this, I’m hoping he goes down.

All about him.

I actually can’t believe he feels it relevant he took her to dinner. … before he well … executed her.

Him saying he’s been supportive to the family in other statements.

Then saying things like well oiled crew, and 1 in a trillion. This is so embarrassingly out of kilter.

He had immediately got on the phone to her family to get his story in there and blame others …

Hope he gets prosecuted over this.

fishfoodie wrote: ↑Sun Oct 31, 2021 10:46 am

Ymx wrote: ↑Sun Oct 31, 2021 9:40 am

Actor Alec Baldwin has spoken publicly for the first time since the accidental fatal shooting of cinematographer Halyna Hutchins on the set of Western film Rust, calling it a "one in a trillion episode".

The actor and his wife, Hilaria, stopped to speak to reporters on a roadside in Vermont, and while Baldwin said he could not comment on the ongoing investigation, he revealed Ms Hutchins was "my friend".
"We were a very, very well-oiled crew shooting a film together and then this horrible event happened," Baldwin said.

"A woman died. She was my friend... When I arrived in Santa Fe to start shooting, I took her to dinner."

After reading this, I’m hoping he goes down.

All about him.

I actually can’t believe he feels it relevant he took her to dinner. … before he well … executed her.

Him saying he’s been supportive to the family in other statements.

Then saying things like well oiled crew, and 1 in a trillion. This is so embarrassingly out of kilter.

He had immediately got on the phone to her family to get his story in there and blame others …

Hope he gets prosecuted over this.

Why do I get the feeling that this all about how you feel about Baldwin; & nothing to do with the establishing the facts of the case; & not the personalities ?

Flockwitt wrote: ↑Sun Oct 31, 2021 4:12 pm I think you can also add to that live rounds even being on set. Somebody must have known about the reported shooting practice/fun.

Jock42 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 27, 2021 11:25 am

Flockwitt wrote: ↑Wed Oct 27, 2021 8:13 am

Jock42 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 25, 2021 7:32 pm

I'd not be happy with that. As soon as I pick up a weapon I'm in charge of it and want to know the state of that weapon for myself.

Are you an expert in every weapon every made? Somebody gives an actor a AK-47, then a glock, then a 1917 luger? And the actor is supposed to be the person responsible for checking each and everything? Impossible. There should be cast iron protocols to prevent the non-expert getting involved in the process.

Alec, if you're happy cutting about with a weapon you don't know the state of thats fine. I'm not.

Ymx wrote: ↑Sat Dec 04, 2021 7:22 am He’s saying he cocked the gun then released it and it went off.

Sandstorm wrote: ↑Sat Dec 04, 2021 9:15 am

Ymx wrote: ↑Sat Dec 04, 2021 7:22 am He’s saying he cocked the gun then released it and it went off.

Oh so he didn’t shoot her, he was just making some eggs. Fucking lawyer told him to say that!

inactionman wrote: ↑Thu Jan 19, 2023 4:24 pm Baldwin and the armourer both to be charged with involuntary manslaughter.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/19/arts ... ldwin.html

Sandstorm wrote: ↑Thu Jan 19, 2023 4:40 pm

inactionman wrote: ↑Thu Jan 19, 2023 4:24 pm Baldwin and the armourer both to be charged with involuntary manslaughter.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/19/arts ... ldwin.html

8 years for the nobody armourer, 100 hours community service for the A-lister?

Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 19, 2023 8:21 pm

Sandstorm wrote: ↑Thu Jan 19, 2023 4:40 pm

inactionman wrote: ↑Thu Jan 19, 2023 4:24 pm Baldwin and the armourer both to be charged with involuntary manslaughter.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/19/arts ... ldwin.html

8 years for the nobody armourer, 100 hours community service for the A-lister?

I don't think the yanks do community service. You'd need a community to start with.

Sandstorm wrote: ↑Thu Jan 19, 2023 4:40 pm

inactionman wrote: ↑Thu Jan 19, 2023 4:24 pm Baldwin and the armourer both to be charged with involuntary manslaughter.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/19/arts ... ldwin.html

8 years for the nobody armourer, 100 hours community service for the A-lister?

Blackmac wrote: ↑Thu Jan 19, 2023 10:19 pm

Sandstorm wrote: ↑Thu Jan 19, 2023 4:40 pm

inactionman wrote: ↑Thu Jan 19, 2023 4:24 pm Baldwin and the armourer both to be charged with involuntary manslaughter.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/19/arts ... ldwin.html

8 years for the nobody armourer, 100 hours community service for the A-lister?

Given the circumstances that sounds about right.

Uncle fester wrote: ↑Thu Jan 19, 2023 11:53 pm Health and safety legislation generally holds senior managers to account for deficient safety culture and as producer, Baldwin needs to take responsibility.

Flockwitt wrote: ↑Fri Jan 20, 2023 6:17 am

Uncle fester wrote: ↑Thu Jan 19, 2023 11:53 pm Health and safety legislation generally holds senior managers to account for deficient safety culture and as producer, Baldwin needs to take responsibility.

Yep. This. As the producer responsible for ensuring proper procedure is followed he's liable. I guess his only hope now is if they can prove criminal negligence on behalf of the armour so at least his charge is mitigated. I'm certainly no lawyer though.

Flockwitt wrote: ↑Fri Jan 20, 2023 6:17 am

Uncle fester wrote: ↑Thu Jan 19, 2023 11:53 pm Health and safety legislation generally holds senior managers to account for deficient safety culture and as producer, Baldwin needs to take responsibility.

Yep. This. As the producer responsible for ensuring proper procedure is followed he's liable. I guess his only hope now is if they can prove criminal negligence on behalf of the armour so at least his charge is mitigated. I'm certainly no lawyer though.

Uncle fester wrote: ↑Fri Jan 20, 2023 10:46 am

Flockwitt wrote: ↑Fri Jan 20, 2023 6:17 am

Uncle fester wrote: ↑Thu Jan 19, 2023 11:53 pm Health and safety legislation generally holds senior managers to account for deficient safety culture and as producer, Baldwin needs to take responsibility.

Yep. This. As the producer responsible for ensuring proper procedure is followed he's liable. I guess his only hope now is if they can prove criminal negligence on behalf of the armour so at least his charge is mitigated. I'm certainly no lawyer though.

In most western countries, the legislation is set up to question why an obviously incompetent person was put in charge of such an important job and then allowed to keep it. That's the angle they use to get accountability up the ranks.

Otherwise it would be cleaning ladies getting jailed all the time.

Flockwitt wrote: ↑Sun Jan 22, 2023 6:20 am I see it's not necessarily clear cut. The defence is suing the ammo supplier stating that live rounds were mixed in with the dummies at the supply source - may well be a stretch if that's purely tactical, but it's the kind of thing that could be difficult to prove one way or another and muddies the water.

Sandstorm wrote: ↑Sun Jan 22, 2023 9:41 am

Flockwitt wrote: ↑Sun Jan 22, 2023 6:20 am I see it's not necessarily clear cut. The defence is suing the ammo supplier stating that live rounds were mixed in with the dummies at the supply source - may well be a stretch if that's purely tactical, but it's the kind of thing that could be difficult to prove one way or another and muddies the water.

But it’s bollocks because we know the crew were drinking beers and shooting bottles in their downtime.

Calculon wrote: ↑Sun Jan 22, 2023 11:19 am It may well be, but I don't see how one excludes the other

The lawsuit from Gutierrez Reed places blame on ammunition supplier Seth Kenney and his company PDQ Arm & Prop for introducing live rounds to the set where only blanks and dummies were supposed to be present.

“The introduction of live rounds onto the set, which no one anticipated, combined with the rushed and chaotic atmosphere, created a perfect storm for a safety incident,” the lawsuit states.

Kenney could not be reached for comment. He has said previously that he was sure his company did not send any live rounds to the set of “Rust.”

The lawsuit adds new details to the chain of custody for guns and ammunition on the “Rust” set on Oct. 21, describing the appearance of a new box of ammunition — presumed to be harmless dummy rounds with no explosive — shortly before a revolver was loaded and passed to Baldwin.

Baldwin has said he didn’t know the gun he was holding contained a live round when it went off while pointed at Hutchins. Investigators are trying to find where the live round came from, searching the Albuquerque premises of PDQ Arm & Prop in December.

The new lawsuit seeks damages at a jury trial on allegations of unfair trade practices, introducing dangerous products, and false labels and misrepresentation.

It states that authorities found on set “a suspected seven live rounds distributed inside the ammo box, on the ammo cart and in the bandoliers.”

The lawsuit also accuses Kenney of inserting himself in the investigations and attempting to implicate Gutierrez Reed.

Authorities recovered hundreds of rounds of ammunition at the “Rust” movie set — a mix of blanks, dummy rounds and what appeared to be live rounds.

Authorities have issued a search warrant for Baldwin’s phone, seeking text messages, images, videos, calls or any other information related to the movie.

If Mr Baldwin had performed mandatory safety checks with armourer Hannah Gutierrez-Reed and not pointed the gun at Hutchins, the "tragedy would not have occurred", Mr Shilling argued.

"This reckless deviation from known standards and practice and protocol directly caused the fatal shooting," he said.

"Baldwin knew the first rule of gun safety is never point a gun at someone you don't intend on shooting," Mr Shilling added.

fishfoodie wrote: ↑Wed Feb 01, 2023 12:16 am This shit is so annoying.

If Mr Baldwin had performed mandatory safety checks with armourer Hannah Gutierrez-Reed and not pointed the gun at Hutchins, the "tragedy would not have occurred", Mr Shilling argued.

"This reckless deviation from known standards and practice and protocol directly caused the fatal shooting," he said.

"Baldwin knew the first rule of gun safety is never point a gun at someone you don't intend on shooting," Mr Shilling added.

In the world where guns fire real rounds, this is the first rule; in the world where Baldwin makes his living, people point guns at other people every day, & don't intend killing them; it's called working !!

Baldwin existed; like every other actor in a world where real rounds don't exists, because that's the only way everyone can go to work, & do what they do.

This fuckup happened because someone brought real live rounds into a place where they should never have been present; because every day people would be pointing viable firearms at each other, & pulling the triggers, & not planning on killing anyone.

charltom wrote: ↑Wed Feb 01, 2023 12:56 am
If you have a gun capable of firing lethal rounds, whether you expect such rounds to be there or not, you check what is or is not in the gun when you take control of it. Always.

I have checked guns quite literally thousands of times when I have "known" them to be safe, precisely because of how serious the consequences can be if I am wrong in the assumption of safety.

Shooters all over the world know to do this. No actor should be excused it. Someone could die!

Tichtheid wrote: ↑Wed Feb 01, 2023 8:35 am

charltom wrote: ↑Wed Feb 01, 2023 12:56 am
If you have a gun capable of firing lethal rounds, whether you expect such rounds to be there or not, you check what is or is not in the gun when you take control of it. Always.

I have checked guns quite literally thousands of times when I have "known" them to be safe, precisely because of how serious the consequences can be if I am wrong in the assumption of safety.

Shooters all over the world know to do this. No actor should be excused it. Someone could die!

How is this done? Do you have to take all of the ammunition out of the gun to check each bullet?

I've used a shotgun on the farm, but never anything that fires bullets