NPR

Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 12, 2022 5:23 pm

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 12, 2022 5:20 pm

Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 12, 2022 5:20 pm

Lineout numbers are even?

Huh?

Ireland don't have an extra player at the lineout just because you have a red. Your scrums have been fine so I'm not following your excuse for the maul. It was just poor body positions.

Sorry, just to be clear, are you saying that a) we're putting a winger in the lineout, and b) a winger is an adequate replacement for one of the biggest and strongest players in the team at the set piece that's all about those players? Because that's fucking stupid.

Ireland's discipline is awful at the moment, keeping England in it

Crash669 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 12, 2022 5:23 pm

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 12, 2022 5:21 pm 7 forwards plus a winger and Furlong is getting an absolute pasting. Wow.

Am I missing something about how England are managing this? Given our scrum hasn't been outstanding recently, how are they getting such dominance?

Two Test quality locks might help.

Dogbert wrote: ↑Sat Mar 12, 2022 5:24 pm Its not often I say this (as a Scot ) but come on England !

No amount of alcohol can excuse that.

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 12, 2022 5:25 pm Sorry, just to be clear, are you saying that a) we're putting a winger in the lineout, and b) a winger is an adequate replacement for one of the biggest and strongest players in the team at the set piece that's all about those players? Because that's fucking stupid.

FFS, it was your lineout. Your call on the numbers. Get a grip.

Ireland’s discipline is falling to pieces here. Christ, that’s an awful kick at goal there. Smith is a bit wobbly on the kicks.

Slade having a crack here. Eh, shifted forward so Smith is taking it?

This ref loves the underdog

salanya wrote: ↑Sat Mar 12, 2022 5:26 pm

Dogbert wrote: ↑Sat Mar 12, 2022 5:24 pm Its not often I say this (as a Scot ) but come on England !

No amount of alcohol can excuse that.

Fuck me. The standards on this place are appalling.

Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 12, 2022 5:26 pm

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 12, 2022 5:25 pm Sorry, just to be clear, are you saying that a) we're putting a winger in the lineout, and b) a winger is an adequate replacement for one of the biggest and strongest players in the team at the set piece that's all about those players? Because that's fucking stupid.

FFS, it was your lineout. Your call on the numbers. Get a grip.

You're genuinely saying that having only one lock isn't a problem because you can do a shorter lineout for a 5m catch and drive?

Amazing stuff

Crash669 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 12, 2022 5:24 pm

tc27 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 12, 2022 5:22 pm Can we just scrum for the rest of the match?

Memories of this fixture in 2012 - BCM666 called it a manshaming on comms.

England vs Australia World Cup 2007 beats them all for scrum manshaming.

Anyway, like I said, Ire managed the game badly against 13 man Italy so this should not be a surprise.

ScarfaceClaw wrote: ↑Sat Mar 12, 2022 5:26 pm Ireland’s discipline is falling to pieces here. Christ, that’s an awful kick at goal there. Smith is a bit wobbly on the kicks.

Slade having a crack here. Eh, shifted forward so Smith is taking it?

Smith has an excellent record with the boot tbh.

This game is crying out for Danny Care.

ScarfaceClaw wrote: ↑Sat Mar 12, 2022 5:27 pm

salanya wrote: ↑Sat Mar 12, 2022 5:26 pm

Dogbert wrote: ↑Sat Mar 12, 2022 5:24 pm Its not often I say this (as a Scot ) but come on England !

No amount of alcohol can excuse that.

Fuck me. The standards on this place are appalling.

Indeed. Salanya calls out this but not EnergiseR2.

Hal Jordan wrote: ↑Sat Mar 12, 2022 5:27 pm

Crash669 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 12, 2022 5:24 pm

tc27 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 12, 2022 5:22 pm Can we just scrum for the rest of the match?

Memories of this fixture in 2012 - BCM666 called it a manshaming on comms.

England vs Australia World Cup 2007 beats them all for scrum manshaming.

England tour to SA in the 2000s when the old pros walked from scrum to scrum giving the Saffers a pasting while we lost by a cricket score seems more appropriate

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 12, 2022 5:27 pm You're genuinely saying that having only one lock isn't a problem because you can do a shorter lineout for a 5m catch and drive?

Amazing stuff

How many players did you call at that lineout?

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 12, 2022 5:28 pm

ScarfaceClaw wrote: ↑Sat Mar 12, 2022 5:26 pm Ireland’s discipline is falling to pieces here. Christ, that’s an awful kick at goal there. Smith is a bit wobbly on the kicks.

Slade having a crack here. Eh, shifted forward so Smith is taking it?

Smith has an excellent record with the boot tbh.

That’s what I thought but he’s looking nervous with these kicks.

Barely brushed him.

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 12, 2022 5:29 pm

Hal Jordan wrote: ↑Sat Mar 12, 2022 5:27 pm

Crash669 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 12, 2022 5:24 pm

Memories of this fixture in 2012 - BCM666 called it a manshaming on comms.

England vs Australia World Cup 2007 beats them all for scrum manshaming.

England tour to SA in the 2000s when the old pros walked from scrum to scrum giving the Saffers a pasting while we lost by a cricket score seems more appropriate

Mike Brown's first caps, too, I think.

I'm sorry. That's not a high tackle.

Game's gone etc

Furlong not doing well in the scrums.

Keenan's eyes definitely too close together.

Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 12, 2022 5:29 pm

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 12, 2022 5:27 pm You're genuinely saying that having only one lock isn't a problem because you can do a shorter lineout for a 5m catch and drive?

Amazing stuff

How many players did you call at that lineout?

Fairly sure it was all of them. A shorter lineout for a drive makes no sense. Doubly so when doing so just exacerbates the loss of one of the biggest players in the pack, because the opposition still have both of theirs.

It was a dumb comment and this is a dumb argument, no matter what you do, not having a lock is going to damage the driving maul. It's self evident to everyone except weirdly argumentative Frenchmen.

Comedy hour for that try.

Chilli wrote: ↑Sat Mar 12, 2022 5:31 pm Furlong not doing well in the scrums.

You reckon?

Hal Jordan wrote: ↑Sat Mar 12, 2022 5:30 pm

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 12, 2022 5:29 pm

Hal Jordan wrote: ↑Sat Mar 12, 2022 5:27 pm

England vs Australia World Cup 2007 beats them all for scrum manshaming.

England tour to SA in the 2000s when the old pros walked from scrum to scrum giving the Saffers a pasting while we lost by a cricket score seems more appropriate

Mike Brown's first caps, too, I think.

Was that when he ended up in hospital with illness

Dayglo making Jiffy look like a paragon of unbiased commentary..

Dayglo making Jiffy look like a paragon of unbiased commentary..

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 12, 2022 5:32 pm

Hal Jordan wrote: ↑Sat Mar 12, 2022 5:30 pm

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 12, 2022 5:29 pm

England tour to SA in the 2000s when the old pros walked from scrum to scrum giving the Saffers a pasting while we lost by a cricket score seems more appropriate

Mike Brown's first caps, too, I think.

Was that when he ended up in hospital with illness

If I'm remembering right it was the one after the 07 RWC. Strettle ended up in hospital too iirc.

Simmons was straight in the side there for that cleanout.

Darcy watches a replay of an Irishman on the ground playing the ball and calls Randall theatrical

England keeping in touch but as JM said the last 20 will be brutal so that won't be enough

Deveron Boy wrote: ↑Sat Mar 12, 2022 5:32 pm Dayglo making Jiffy look like a paragon of unbiased commentary..

I am picturing him sitting there in a full England kit including boots and socks. Doing the full John Terry.

Jesus, Smith!

Getting a proper crush on Randall.

Henderson fortunate not to get 10 there.

Chilli wrote: ↑Sat Mar 12, 2022 5:31 pm Furlong not doing well in the scrums.

I'd love to see the overhead to get a proper idea of what happened. You must imagine they ran around him.

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 12, 2022 5:35 pm Darcy watches a replay of an Irishman on the ground playing the ball and calls Randall theatrical

Yes, thought he could have gone for a yellow card as it was cynical in the 22.

Have to say that’s a hell of an effort. Assume we’ll lose but can’t fault the guts

Blackmac wrote: ↑Sat Mar 12, 2022 5:36 pm

Chilli wrote: ↑Sat Mar 12, 2022 5:31 pm Furlong not doing well in the scrums.

I'd love to see the overhead to get a proper idea of what happened. You must imagine they ran around him.

That’s what it looks like to me.

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 12, 2022 5:35 pm Darcy watches a replay of an Irishman on the ground playing the ball and calls Randall theatrical

I can't see what is wrong with him drawing attention to it if Henderson is daft enough to do it.