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Kawazaki wrote: Sun Apr 24, 2022 11:06 am

C69 wrote: Sun Apr 24, 2022 9:30 am Fury atm ranking up there with Calzhage as the UK's best ever boxer?

Puts flak jacket on

Calzaghe wasn't really a boxer, more of a street fighter with a granite chin.

Peak Calzaghe v peak Froch would have been epic.

I think Cazaghe would beat Froch on points by a pretty wide margin.

Oxbow wrote: Sun Apr 24, 2022 8:53 am

Big D wrote: Sat Apr 23, 2022 10:42 pm

Slick wrote: Sat Apr 23, 2022 10:18 pm Would it be fair to say that punch is an unusual way for a fight to end? Can’t recall something like that for a long time

Whyte was ko'd by Joshua with an uppercut.

Povetkin also knocked out Whyte with an uppercut, and Rivas put him down with one. It's become a punch that Whyte is clearly susceptible to.

Aye I think it was Dan Rafael that said there has seldom been a boxer more open to that than Whyte. You'd think he'd have learned after the Joshua fight.

Crash669 wrote: Sun Apr 24, 2022 1:52 pm
Fury isn't in the same class as Lewis though, just looking at their opponents it's night and day.

I agree with that, but I think Fury beats a lot of the guys Lewis did at the time Lewis fought them. Definitely a few that would give Fury problems though.

George Kambosos vs Devin Haney kicking off shortly.

https://meta.fbstream.tv/live/stream/ge ... aney-fb-1/

Gumboot wrote: Sun Jun 05, 2022 3:14 am George Kambosos vs Devin Haney kicking off shortly.

https://meta.fbstream.tv/live/stream/ge ... aany-fb-1/

I was looking forward to this fight but it turned out to be a bit of a bit of a damp squib. Kambosos was plodding and didn't do anything to unsettle Haney or force him to make adjustments. I can't see any reason for a rematch and hope that the clause is not invoked.

A little dose of schadenfreude to make you feel happy this morning!

Saw that. Francis will do well to avoid trouble off the back of that.

Just seen this:

Disgusting refereeing really.

Saw that. Francis will do well to avoid trouble off the back of that.

Reckon he could make a decent case for self defence, the bloke had just thrown a punch at someone and was walking towards him with his fists raised. Deserved it.

That non stopping ref was a tough watch.

Slick wrote: Tue Jun 14, 2022 9:26 am

Saw that. Francis will do well to avoid trouble off the back of that.

Reckon he could make a decent case for self defence, the bloke had just thrown a punch at someone and was walking towards him with his fists raised. Deserved it.

That non stopping ref was a tough watch.

Frazer

Exactly. If the KO'd guy was a boxer or UFC fighter he could do serious damage with a punch. Even to a big bloke. Francis will possibly struggle to defend his excessive use of force in court. He was fully justified though imo. The little prick was in a state and could easily have loosed a nose busting jab. His aggressive intent was clear.

Slick wrote: Tue Jun 14, 2022 9:26 am

Saw that. Francis will do well to avoid trouble off the back of that.

Reckon he could make a decent case for self defence, the bloke had just thrown a punch at someone and was walking towards him with his fists raised. Deserved it.

That non stopping ref was a tough watch.

I think he'd be cleared eventually just the hassle of potentially having to speak to police and waiting on whether he'd be charged or not. Not that speaking to the police is a hassle but dealing with this could be.

Ref was disgraceful as was his corner. Can't recall a doctor stepping in mid round uninvited before.

Big D wrote: Tue Jun 14, 2022 2:51 pm

Slick wrote: Tue Jun 14, 2022 9:26 am

Saw that. Francis will do well to avoid trouble off the back of that.

Reckon he could make a decent case for self defence, the bloke had just thrown a punch at someone and was walking towards him with his fists raised. Deserved it.

That non stopping ref was a tough watch.

I think he'd be cleared eventually just the hassle of potentially having to speak to police and waiting on whether he'd be charged or not. Not that speaking to the police is a hassle but dealing with this could be.

Ref was disgraceful as was his corner. Can't recall a doctor stepping in mid round uninvited before.

Probably needs a copper's view, but I doubt he'd get charged with that.

The guy's all aggro, swinging at others. Advances on him and sticks his hand in his face. You'd surely never secure a conviction with that.

Potential to be a bit of hassle for him though all the same.

Usyk v Joshua 2 just about to kick off.

Usyk winning every round

Commentators wanking over Joshua, but he hasnt landed a single meaninful punch in 6 rounds, Usyk on the other hand, landing at will.

ASMO wrote: Sat Aug 20, 2022 10:39 pm Commentators wanking over Joshua, but he hasnt landed a single meaninful punch in 6 rounds, Usyk on the other hand, landing at will.

Yep, Usyk well ahead now.

Only a knockout will save this for him. Joshua needs to retire after this loss. He has been totally found out.

Finally Joshua realises he needs to fight to win a fight.

Joshua lands 1 decent punch, then gets battered

Joshua just hanging on. Can he go the distance?

Should be unanimous to Usyk, but who knows with pro boxing judges...

That was embarrasing for Joshua, he was utterly schooled, time to hang up the gloves and enjoy his well earned fortune.

ASMO wrote: Sat Aug 20, 2022 11:05 pm That was embarrasing for Joshua, he was utterly schooled, time to hang up the gloves and enjoy his well earned fortune.

Yep, he's been repeatedly exposed as a limited fighter.

Split decision!

Boxing judges are a fucking joke

How the fuck did one judge have Joshua winning by 2 rounds??

Joshua throwing a big sook now.

What was that rant in the ring? Completely hatstand

Gumboot wrote: Sat Aug 20, 2022 11:09 pm How the fuck did one judge have Joshua winning by 2 rounds??

Laughable... even worse that AJ was surprised he lost!

Anthony Joshua is absolutely furious with this decision.

"You are not skilled, how did you beat me?" Joshua tells Usyk.

Admittedly I was pissed watching it, but the judges seemed wildly generous to Joshua last night. I feel a bit sorry for AJ really, he's not a good enough boxer or a big enough bully to compete any more so he's going to remembered as another Frank Bruno even though he's better than that.

I'd love to know what happened to him mentally that's shattered his confidence so much even before the Ruiz fight. The Joshua who got off the floor to knock out Klitschko totally disappeared and he became increasingly gun-shy and obsessed with being regarded as a boxer not a puncher, and seemingly worried about his weak chin. Something changed in his mentality and it took away his strengths and has left him a worse fighter.

And of course Usyk is a phenomenal fighter.

ASMO wrote: Sat Aug 20, 2022 11:17 pm What was that rant in the ring? Completely hatstand

Some suggestion this morning there was a bit of concussion in there.

Grandpa wrote: Sat Aug 20, 2022 11:21 pm

Gumboot wrote: Sat Aug 20, 2022 11:09 pm How the fuck did one judge have Joshua winning by 2 rounds??

Laughable... even worse that AJ was surprised he lost!

Anthony Joshua is absolutely furious with this decision.

"You are not skilled, how did you beat me?" Joshua tells Usyk.

One of the commentators said something about his seconds telling him he was winning half way through the fight.

The judge who scored it for Joshua -----

Glaston wrote: Sun Aug 21, 2022 7:51 am

Grandpa wrote: Sat Aug 20, 2022 11:21 pm

Gumboot wrote: Sat Aug 20, 2022 11:09 pm How the fuck did one judge have Joshua winning by 2 rounds??

Laughable... even worse that AJ was surprised he lost!

Anthony Joshua is absolutely furious with this decision.

"You are not skilled, how did you beat me?" Joshua tells Usyk.

One of the commentators said something about his seconds telling him he was winning half way through the fight.

The judge who scored it for Joshua ----- :lol:

Is a brit, should be banned from judging.

ASMO wrote: Sun Aug 21, 2022 10:34 am

Glaston wrote: Sun Aug 21, 2022 7:51 am

Grandpa wrote: Sat Aug 20, 2022 11:21 pm

Laughable... even worse that AJ was surprised he lost!

One of the commentators said something about his seconds telling him he was winning half way through the fight.

The judge who scored it for Joshua ----- :lol:

Is a brit, should be banned from judging.

American judge Glenn Feldman gave the fight to Joshua... still no excuse just because he's an American...

Judge Steve Gray of Great Britain felt it was 115-113 to the Usyk, the unified world champion.

So could someone with a bit more knowledge than me explain why Usyk is considered the unified champion?

Biffer wrote: Sun Aug 21, 2022 5:48 pm So could someone with a bit more knowledge than me explain why Usyk is considered the unified champion?

Unified three belts... Champion under the WBO, WBA and IBF world heavyweight titles..

Fury holds the WBC belt

Grandpa wrote: Sun Aug 21, 2022 6:36 pm

Biffer wrote: Sun Aug 21, 2022 5:48 pm So could someone with a bit more knowledge than me explain why Usyk is considered the unified champion?

Unified three belts... Champion under the WBO, WBA and IBF world heavyweight titles..

Fury holds the WBC belt

Also Fury is the lineal champion, though that doesn't count for much.

Biffer wrote: Sun Aug 21, 2022 7:19 am

ASMO wrote: Sat Aug 20, 2022 11:17 pm What was that rant in the ring? Completely hatstand

Some suggestion this morning there was a bit of concussion in there.

Yeah, loads of stuff about him having a rant and all a bit mad - he’d just been getting punched in the head for an hour ffs

Joshua gets a lot of hate for several reasons, most of them nonsense. He isn't as good as Usyk or Fury but they are elite talents in the modern day. He and Wilder are very similar and both are better than the rest that aren't Fury or Usyk. He deserves credit for what he has achieved after boxing for only 15 years total.

Usyk is a fabulous boxer, P4P one of the top 3 or 4 in the world. No disgrace in being beaten easily by him. What he has done in relatively few fights is very impressive. He would lose to Fry but that is a lot to do with size rather than skills.

Big D wrote: Mon Aug 22, 2022 7:44 am Joshua gets a lot of hate for several reasons, most of them nonsense. He isn't as good as Usyk or Fury but they are elite talents in the modern day. He and Wilder are very similar and both are better than the rest that aren't Fury or Usyk. He deserves credit for what he has achieved after boxing for only 15 years total.

Usyk is a fabulous boxer, P4P one of the top 3 or 4 in the world. No disgrace in being beaten easily by him. What he has done in relatively few fights is very impressive. He would lose to Fry but that is a lot to do with size rather than skills.

The only thing Fury will fight for is money, ie "nothing left to prove". Usyk would own him and he knows it.