Six Nations Round 2: England vs. Wales

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Raggs wrote: Sat Feb 10, 2024 5:30 pm
Blackmac wrote: Sat Feb 10, 2024 5:29 pm Itoje gets coached to stop, you're offside. Stops, but then tackles the scrum half from the offside position.
He got told he was fine and the ball had been lifted.
I got the ref bit wrong but your interpretation and the refs is wrong. He hurdles to an offside position well before it was lifted. He appears to realise, hold his hands up to acknowledge it and is clearly astonished to hear the ref.
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Ford needs to do what he did in the RWC & just accept he's playing with a bunch of vegetables, & start taking those drop goals again
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Openside wrote: Sat Feb 10, 2024 5:33 pm
ASMO wrote: Sat Feb 10, 2024 5:14 pm 6 penalties already, that is disgraceful
Only one side being reffed 🙄
You cannot be serious. They are getting away with murder at the breakdown. As usual Gatland has Wales well drilled in that respect.
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Blackmac wrote: Sat Feb 10, 2024 5:40 pm
Raggs wrote: Sat Feb 10, 2024 5:30 pm
Blackmac wrote: Sat Feb 10, 2024 5:29 pm Itoje gets coached to stop, you're offside. Stops, but then tackles the scrum half from the offside position.
He got told he was fine and the ball had been lifted.
I got the ref bit wrong but your interpretation and the refs is wrong. He hurdles to an offside position well before it was lifted. He appears to realise, hold his hands up to acknowledge it and is clearly astonished to hear the ref.
If he's come through the gate he's not offside. He still can't play the 9 but he has every right to stand there.
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Looking at that Ford kick, the ref is talkng absolute crap.

Ford should just drop goal every place kick as a fuck you.
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fishfoodie wrote: Sat Feb 10, 2024 5:40 pm Ford needs to do what he did in the RWC & just accept he's playing with a bunch of vegetables, & start taking those drop goals again
I think thats somewhat insulting to vegetables, replace vegetables with Tory politicians and it works better
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The more you see it the Ford charge down is a joke. We really need to punt these refs when they are making ludicrous decisions like that. He's still involved in his set up not starting his run up.
Why do we have so many incompetents in charge of these matches.
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Dislike the stupid penalties. Even more annoyed with Roots on seeing the replay again since he was actually one of the players on the ball, he knew it was doing nothing and should have just let it go over the line.

However, overall, I'm not desperately upset with England overall. We're still attacking, our defence feels more organised than it was, though with issues still.

I do agree that midfield just isn't right.
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Raggs wrote: Sat Feb 10, 2024 5:43 pm
Blackmac wrote: Sat Feb 10, 2024 5:40 pm
Raggs wrote: Sat Feb 10, 2024 5:30 pm

He got told he was fine and the ball had been lifted.
I got the ref bit wrong but your interpretation and the refs is wrong. He hurdles to an offside position well before it was lifted. He appears to realise, hold his hands up to acknowledge it and is clearly astonished to hear the ref.
If he's come through the gate he's not offside. He still can't play the 9 but he has every right to stand there.
He can't jump over the ruck into a blatantly offside position.
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Blackmac wrote: Sat Feb 10, 2024 5:47 pm The more you see it the Ford charge down is a joke. We really need to punt these refs when they are making ludicrous decisions like that. He's still involved in his set up not starting his run up.
Why do we have so many incompetents in charge of these matches.
I had a giggle hearing Biggar saying ford shouldn't have bothered eating up the clock, like he would have just got in with it whilst his team had two yellows!
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Raggs wrote: Sat Feb 10, 2024 5:47 pm Dislike the stupid penalties. Even more annoyed with Roots on seeing the replay again since he was actually one of the players on the ball, he knew it was doing nothing and should have just let it go over the line.

However, overall, I'm not desperately upset with England overall. We're still attacking, our defence feels more organised than it was, though with issues still.

I do agree that midfield just isn't right.
We have a midfield!?
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Blackmac wrote: Sat Feb 10, 2024 5:47 pm The more you see it the Ford charge down is a joke. We really need to punt these refs when they are making ludicrous decisions like that. He's still involved in his set up not starting his run up.
Why do we have so many incompetents in charge of these matches.
It's such an odd one. He's setting up, he's no idea they are even charging, because he's not anywhere near ready to approach the ball.
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Raggs wrote: Sat Feb 10, 2024 5:47 pm Dislike the stupid penalties. Even more annoyed with Roots on seeing the replay again since he was actually one of the players on the ball, he knew it was doing nothing and should have just let it go over the line.

However, overall, I'm not desperately upset with England overall. We're still attacking, our defence feels more organised than it was, though with issues still.

I do agree that midfield just isn't right.
We just don't need slade or daly
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Borthwick needs to do a complete reset or leave.
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Blackmac wrote: Sat Feb 10, 2024 5:48 pm
Raggs wrote: Sat Feb 10, 2024 5:43 pm
Blackmac wrote: Sat Feb 10, 2024 5:40 pm

I got the ref bit wrong but your interpretation and the refs is wrong. He hurdles to an offside position well before it was lifted. He appears to realise, hold his hands up to acknowledge it and is clearly astonished to hear the ref.
If he's come through the gate he's not offside. He still can't play the 9 but he has every right to stand there.
He can't jump over the ruck into a blatantly offside position.
What ruck? Everyone was on the floor, is he to walk on top of them? He was legal, then he was careful to show he wasn't playing the nine whilst the ball was still in.
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No changes, we have to wait until the preplanned 53 minute substitions.
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Raggs wrote: Sat Feb 10, 2024 5:50 pm
Blackmac wrote: Sat Feb 10, 2024 5:48 pm
Raggs wrote: Sat Feb 10, 2024 5:43 pm

If he's come through the gate he's not offside. He still can't play the 9 but he has every right to stand there.
He can't jump over the ruck into a blatantly offside position.
What ruck? Everyone was on the floor, is he to walk on top of them? He was legal, then he was careful to show he wasn't playing the nine whilst the ball was still in.
Yeah, I've looked at it again. No ruck, my bad.
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Daly was never, ever getting in there.

But promising build up,
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That was never on
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Hal Jordan wrote: Sat Feb 10, 2024 5:54 pm Daly was never, ever getting in there.

But promising build up,
They just shifted the ball, never committed the tacklers, so they just drifted
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Hal Jordan wrote: Sat Feb 10, 2024 5:54 pm Daly was never, ever getting in there.

But promising build up,
You would expect an experienced player to cut in.
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Did the ref not say the ball was available? Why then call scrum?
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Blackmac wrote: Sat Feb 10, 2024 5:51 pm
Raggs wrote: Sat Feb 10, 2024 5:50 pm
Blackmac wrote: Sat Feb 10, 2024 5:48 pm

He can't jump over the ruck into a blatantly offside position.
What ruck? Everyone was on the floor, is he to walk on top of them? He was legal, then he was careful to show he wasn't playing the nine whilst the ball was still in.
Yeah, I've looked at it again. No ruck, my bad.
:thumbup:
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Take the 3
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petej wrote: Sat Feb 10, 2024 5:55 pm
Hal Jordan wrote: Sat Feb 10, 2024 5:54 pm Daly was never, ever getting in there.

But promising build up,
You would expect an experienced player to cut in.
He certainly wasn't going to Shane Wiliams his way in...
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Has Freeman touched the ball?
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Hal Jordan wrote: Sat Feb 10, 2024 6:00 pm Has Freeman touched the ball?
Not in attack, no.
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Hal Jordan wrote: Sat Feb 10, 2024 6:00 pm Has Freeman touched the ball?
In attack he hasn't.
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England bring on the bum squad
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Ctrl - Alt - Delete.
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ASMO wrote: Sat Feb 10, 2024 6:02 pm England bring on the bum squad
Just the dynamism we need at this stage.
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How long is this taking.
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I've seen some bad English teams.... I'll leave it there.
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He's gonna penalise someone next time
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Wales are so much more explosive.
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Unlucky from Dyer who has had a good game.
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Daly and slade :sick:
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Lovely break..
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Rush defence :sad:
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Blitz defence working like a charm. At least Freeman has the pace to get across.
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