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Re: France vs All Blacks

Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2024 9:46 pm
by fishfoodie
Enzedder wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 9:40 pm Which fuckwit coach subbed Roigard?
It gets more baffling with every breakdown :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf:

Re: France vs All Blacks

Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2024 9:47 pm
by ScarfaceClaw
Roigard would have caught that clean.

Re: France vs All Blacks

Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2024 9:50 pm
by ScarfaceClaw
Tough call for a neck roll there.

Re: France vs All Blacks

Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2024 9:50 pm
by Torquemada 1420
Never mind the neck roll. Where TF is the TMO on the head contact?

Re: France vs All Blacks

Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2024 9:51 pm
by Guy Smiley
For those getting the Kiwi commentators..

Has TJ had a head knock?

Re: France vs All Blacks

Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2024 9:51 pm
by JM2K6
Missed the head, but still an Exocet.

Roumat has had some impact already

Re: France vs All Blacks

Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2024 9:52 pm
by ScarfaceClaw
I’m delighted to win against England and Ireland. I like France so am disappointed but accepting to be beaten by France.

Re: France vs All Blacks

Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2024 9:56 pm
by JM2K6
If anyone needed a reminder of how fast Dupont is...

Re: France vs All Blacks

Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2024 9:56 pm
by Torquemada 1420
Normally like this ref but he's had a total sh*tshow tonight.

Re: France vs All Blacks

Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2024 9:58 pm
by Big D
JM2K6 wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 9:56 pm If anyone needed a reminder of how fast Dupont is...
Savea gave a pretty good account of himself too.

Re: France vs All Blacks

Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2024 9:58 pm
by ScarfaceClaw
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 9:56 pm Normally like this ref but he's had a total sh*tshow tonight.
He’s had a good game I thought. NZ will lose and France deserve the win.

Re: France vs All Blacks

Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2024 9:59 pm
by JM2K6
Frankly superb defensive set ends the game.

Fabulous match. Thanks very much to both teams and the ref; a great contest and an even better watch.

Re: France vs All Blacks

Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2024 9:59 pm
by Torquemada 1420
FTR had France by 5.

Re: France vs All Blacks

Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2024 10:00 pm
by sockwithaticket
Fair play, frogs.

Re: France vs All Blacks

Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2024 10:00 pm
by ASMO
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 9:56 pm Normally like this ref but he's had a total sh*tshow tonight.
He seriously did not...game was reffed superbly.

Re: France vs All Blacks

Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2024 10:01 pm
by Torquemada 1420
JM2K6 wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 9:59 pm Frankly superb defensive set ends the game.

Fabulous match. Thanks very much to both teams and the ref; a great contest and an even better watch.
Some of the best defence I've seen for some time by both teams. Always thought Fra looked better off the bench but the mix of injuries almost wrecked that.

Re: France vs All Blacks

Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2024 10:01 pm
by Kiwias
Credit to both teams for a superb contest, France sneaking it by a single point. Breathless stuff for much of the match. Roigard being subbed made the difference for me. Both backrows played their hearts out. Lakai belongs in test rugby.

Re: France vs All Blacks

Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2024 10:01 pm
by Guy Smiley
ScarfaceClaw wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 9:58 pm
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 9:56 pm Normally like this ref but he's had a total sh*tshow tonight.
He’s had a good game I thought. NZ will lose and France deserve the win.
Good ref, I think the pace of the game got to him in the last 10 and he missed a few calls but he was really good in a fantastic game.

Re: France vs All Blacks

Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2024 10:01 pm
by Slick
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 9:56 pm Normally like this ref but he's had a total sh*tshow tonight.
I do enjoy your unique takes on, well, just about everything

Re: France vs All Blacks

Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2024 10:02 pm
by fishfoodie
Great Test Match that.

Add me to the fans of this Ref; he has that good mix of letting the game flow, but also not getting behind the teams trying to skirt the laws.

NZ's subs decisions were baffling, while France's hands were forced with their front row going off too early

Re: France vs All Blacks

Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2024 10:03 pm
by Torquemada 1420
Slick wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 10:01 pm
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 9:56 pm Normally like this ref but he's had a total sh*tshow tonight.
I do enjoy your unique takes on, well, just about everything
Thought he was horribly inconsistent at the breakdown tonight. If Ire had been playing, Fra would have lost by a mile on those interpretations.

Re: France vs All Blacks

Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2024 10:04 pm
by Gumboot
Ah well...

Congrats, France.

Thought we were in with a shout at HT, but the ol' second half blues came back to haunt us. Replacing Roigard after 53 minutes was a huge mistake.

Re: France vs All Blacks

Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2024 10:04 pm
by Torquemada 1420
Just seen the Tonga score. That's wrecked my GS.

Tongan rugby really has imploded.

Re: France vs All Blacks

Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2024 10:05 pm
by Torquemada 1420
Gumboot wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 10:04 pm Ah well...

Congrats, France.

Thought we were in with a shout at HT, but the ol' second half blues came back to haunt us. Replacing Roigard after 53 minutes was a huge mistake.
I thought he went off injured?

Re: France vs All Blacks

Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2024 10:06 pm
by Torquemada 1420
OomStruisbaai wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 8:47 pm France is outerly overrated and kak.
Your knowledge of rugby is outstanding.

Re: France vs All Blacks

Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2024 10:06 pm
by Jethro
JM2K6 wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 9:59 pm Frankly superb defensive set ends the game.

Fabulous match. Thanks very much to both teams and the ref; a great contest and an even better watch.
True that.

Question for me is why the ABs giving up a 10 point lead is somehow acceptable to modern fans. Back in the Griz era, the team would be on the training paddock tomorrow passing bricks.

Good win by France, but have to question NZ coaching, some of the substitutions were simply brain dead.

Re: France vs All Blacks

Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2024 10:07 pm
by Gumboot
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 10:05 pm
Gumboot wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 10:04 pm Ah well...

Congrats, France.

Thought we were in with a shout at HT, but the ol' second half blues came back to haunt us. Replacing Roigard after 53 minutes was a huge mistake.
I thought he went off injured?
Really? Thought it was just a straight sub.

Re: France vs All Blacks

Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2024 10:07 pm
by Moral Dilemma
Great game!

Well done, France. Won me a few bucks...

Disappointed to lose of course - but I'm more encouraged by the ABs moving forward than I was mid year. That said, BB needs a shock-collar that goes off any time he even thinks about putting in a rubbish kick on attack.

Re: France vs All Blacks

Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2024 10:09 pm
by Guy Smiley
Moral Dilemma wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 10:07 pm Great game!

Well done, France. Won me a few bucks...

Disappointed to lose of course - but I'm more encouraged by the ABs moving forward than I was mid year. That said, BB needs a shock-collar that goes off any time he even thinks about putting in a rubbish kick on attack.
I think he mixed that up nicely with the shovel pass to the wrong place a few times.

Re: France vs All Blacks

Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2024 10:11 pm
by Torquemada 1420
Gumboot wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 10:07 pm
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 10:05 pm
Gumboot wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 10:04 pm Ah well...

Congrats, France.

Thought we were in with a shout at HT, but the ol' second half blues came back to haunt us. Replacing Roigard after 53 minutes was a huge mistake.
I thought he went off injured?
Really? Thought it was just a straight sub.
You are probably right. I was listening on Fre comms in the background some of the time and it might have been for another substitution. If he wasn't injured or knackered, it was a mental call.

Re: France vs All Blacks

Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2024 10:12 pm
by Gumboot
Even worse if he is injured, tbh...

Re: France vs All Blacks

Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2024 10:14 pm
by Torquemada 1420
Jethro wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 10:06 pm
JM2K6 wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 9:59 pm Frankly superb defensive set ends the game.

Fabulous match. Thanks very much to both teams and the ref; a great contest and an even better watch.
True that.

Question for me is why the ABs giving up a 10 point lead is somehow acceptable to modern fans. Back in the Griz era, the team would be on the training paddock tomorrow passing bricks.

Good win by France, but have to question NZ coaching, some of the substitutions were simply brain dead.
Massively physical game. No surprise the fwds on both sides were f**ked. Ratima was the only odd one for the ABs I thought. No idea why BB started ahead of Dmac anyway.

Re: France vs All Blacks

Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2024 10:15 pm
by Torquemada 1420
Gumboot wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 10:12 pm Even worse if he is injured, tbh...
Hope not. He's a pleasure to watch. Incredibly soft hands.

Re: France vs All Blacks

Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2024 10:15 pm
by Moral Dilemma
Gumboot wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 10:07 pm
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 10:05 pm
Gumboot wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 10:04 pm Ah well...

Congrats, France.

Thought we were in with a shout at HT, but the ol' second half blues came back to haunt us. Replacing Roigard after 53 minutes was a huge mistake.
I thought he went off injured?
Really? Thought it was just a straight sub.
Straight sub - at least from what I can gather going back and watching it again. Roigard was moving fine.

Re: France vs All Blacks

Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2024 10:18 pm
by Torquemada 1420
Moral Dilemma wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 10:15 pm Straight sub - at least from what I can gather going back and watching it again. Roigard was moving fine.
Well Razor isn't so smart after all :lol:

Re: France vs All Blacks

Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2024 10:19 pm
by PornDog
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 10:03 pm
Slick wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 10:01 pm
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 9:56 pm Normally like this ref but he's had a total sh*tshow tonight.
I do enjoy your unique takes on, well, just about everything
Thought he was horribly inconsistent at the breakdown tonight. If Ire had been playing, Fra would have lost by a mile on those interpretations.
:lol: :crazy:

Re: France vs All Blacks

Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2024 10:23 pm
by Guy Smiley
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 10:18 pm
Moral Dilemma wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 10:15 pm Straight sub - at least from what I can gather going back and watching it again. Roigard was moving fine.
Well Razor isn't so smart after all :lol:
We don't have access to player data like the coaching box does. Roigard is still coming back from an injury layoff and it's likely they wanted to maintain pace pressure on Dupont.

It's frustrating but the overall improvement in this team throughout the season along with the introduction of new players with real flair suggests the ABs are in good hands and on the right track.

Re: France vs All Blacks

Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2024 10:29 pm
by Uncle fester
Cracking game :thumbup:

Re: France vs All Blacks

Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2024 10:31 pm
by Guy Smiley
Uncle fester wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 10:29 pm Cracking game :thumbup:
Best test I've watched for a long time.

Re: France vs All Blacks

Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2024 10:47 pm
by Moral Dilemma
Guy Smiley wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 10:23 pm
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 10:18 pm
Moral Dilemma wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 10:15 pm Straight sub - at least from what I can gather going back and watching it again. Roigard was moving fine.
Well Razor isn't so smart after all :lol:
We don't have access to player data like the coaching box does. Roigard is still coming back from an injury layoff and it's likely they wanted to maintain pace pressure on Dupont.

It's frustrating but the overall improvement in this team throughout the season along with the introduction of new players with real flair suggests the ABs are in good hands and on the right track.
This is true.

I think where Razor messed up was selecting Ratima in the 23 in the first place.