The Official Aotearoa Politics Thread

[Gumboot]

Yeah, I don't think there's much public appetite right now for Paunch and Judy's carping at the govt and stupid conspiracy theories.

[Jimmy Smallsteps]

So NZ has 13 new cases, roughly equivalent to NSW and behind Queensland. It goes without saying they're in a much better position than Victoria.

I'm not sure that warrants the outpouring of outrage about the government's "incompetence" that I'm seeing on Facey.

Maybe I just have a lot more National and ACT party loyalist contacts than I thought.

[Jimmy Smallsteps]

Yeah, I don't think there's much public appetite right now for Paunch and Judy's carping at the govt and stupid conspiracy theories.

[JPNZ]

So NZ has 13 new cases, roughly equivalent to NSW and behind Queensland. It goes without saying they're in a much better position than Victoria.

I'm not sure that warrants the outpouring of outrage about the government's "incompetence" that I'm seeing on Facey.

372 New cases and 14 deaths in Victoria today.

[Monkey Magic]

So NZ has 13 new cases, roughly equivalent to NSW and behind Queensland. It goes without saying they're in a much better position than Victoria.

I'm not sure that warrants the outpouring of outrage about the government's "incompetence" that I'm seeing on Facey.

372 New cases and 14 deaths in Victoria today.

The worry is that this is just the beginning. What were Victoria's numbers 4 weeks ago?

[Jimmy Smallsteps]

So NZ has 13 new cases, roughly equivalent to NSW and behind Queensland. It goes without saying they're in a much better position than Victoria.

I'm not sure that warrants the outpouring of outrage about the government's "incompetence" that I'm seeing on Facey.

372 New cases and 14 deaths in Victoria today.

The worry is that this is just the beginning. What were Victoria's numbers 4 weeks ago?

428 new cases on 17 July.

[Jimmy Smallsteps]

So NZ has 13 new cases, roughly equivalent to NSW and behind Queensland. It goes without saying they're in a much better position than Victoria.

I'm not sure that warrants the outpouring of outrage about the government's "incompetence" that I'm seeing on Facey.

372 New cases and 14 deaths in Victoria today.

Yeah. The trend is downwards, but the day-to-day numbers are still jumping around a fair bit.

[Jimmy Smallsteps]

So NZ has 13 new cases, roughly equivalent to NSW and behind Queensland. It goes without saying they're in a much better position than Victoria.

I'm not sure that warrants the outpouring of outrage about the government's "incompetence" that I'm seeing on Facey.

372 New cases and 14 deaths in Victoria today.

The worry is that this is just the beginning. What were Victoria's numbers 4 weeks ago?

I think it was unrealistic to expect NZ had "beaten" COVID, which is what both the media commentary and a lot of social media messaging was indicating.

Now you've had a second outbreak like pretty much everywhere else, people have gone apeshit.

Those reports and posts lecturing the rest of the world about how to be a stay at home world champ may not age well, eh Muttonbirds.

[Enzedder]

I think we have done bloody well to last this long. I have always been of the opinion that:
1) It will happen again - impossible to stop
2) The people on the front line are human and humans make mistakes
3) The people who make a mistake will not do so deliberately
4) The best thing to do is plan for the eventuality and move fast when it happens.

[booji boy]

I'd come to the conclusion we were living in a fool's paradise anyway thinking we had eradicated it whilst it still raged on largely out of control all over the globe. We can't stay in complete isolation from the rest of the world forever and we can't afford to go into level 3 or 4 lockdown repeatedly every few months. We'll go broke at that rate.

[Auckman]

If that guy in Auckland hospital (13th case today) turns out to be unrelated to the current cluster, it's squeaky bum time.

[Jimmy Smallsteps]

I think we have done bloody well to last this long. I have always been of the opinion that:
1) It will happen again - impossible to stop
2) The people on the front line are human and humans make mistakes
3) The people who make a mistake will not do so deliberately
4) The best thing to do is plan for the eventuality and move fast when it happens.

Wise counsel, Enz.

[Jb1981]

Wellington junior rugby is banking on level 2 (at least) continuing here. They have already cancelled tomorrow’s games.

[Gumboot]

No change in the current alert levels for the next 12 days (2 weeks in total).

[Ramble on]

She is so utterly full of shit to avoid an election move it is beginning to get annoying

[Gumboot]

She is so utterly full of shit to avoid an election move it is beginning to get annoying

She has until Monday to make a call on the election date. Why would she do it now?

[Ramble on]

She is so utterly full of shit to avoid an election move it is beginning to get annoying

She has until Monday to make a call on the election date. Why would she do it now?

Because she knows what she is doing?

[Ramble on]

Why is she even fronting the thing every day?

[Jimmy Smallsteps]

Why is she even fronting the thing every day?

This is a rough guess but perhaps because she's the Prime Minister?

Dan Andrews has been fronting every single presser here in Victoria too.

[Gumboot]

Why is she even fronting the thing every day?

Because she's the PM.

[Jimmy Smallsteps]

She is so utterly full of shit to avoid an election move it is beginning to get annoying

Calm down you card-carrying National Party wanker.

[Stumpy]

If that guy in Auckland hospital (13th case today) turns out to be unrelated to the current cluster, it's squeaky bum time.

Yep totally unrelated. I know a person related to the case. Whilst I hope not this this horse appears to have bolted.

[Wignu]

She is so utterly full of shit to avoid an election move it is beginning to get annoying

Unless other areas go into Level 3 then moving the election at this stage isn't necessary, the politicians can still go around the country to spout their BS except in Auckland and that may ease off in 12 days.

[Jimmy Smallsteps]

Wellington junior rugby is banking on level 2 (at least) continuing here. They have already cancelled tomorrow’s games.

Game on, motherfucker.

[Jb1981]

Did she say that the first person at cold store began displaying symptoms on 31 July or did I hear that wrong?

[wet-socks]

Did she say that the first person at cold store began displaying symptoms on 31 July or did I hear that wrong?

correct

[Guy Smiley]

Why is she even fronting the thing every day?

Because she's the PM.

Not worth replying to this one. Things have taken a Dark turn.

[Gumboot]

Why is she even fronting the thing every day?

Because she's the PM.

Not worth replying to this one. Things have taken a Dark turn.

Ah, so this is Dark/TMAB from the old bored. Makes sense now.

[stunt_cunt]

Seems the sensible route. I was hoping for another break if I'm being honest, been flat out since level 2 came into effect 4 months or whatever ago.

Level 3 isn't really that restrictive anyway.

[Guy Smiley]

So then apparently nearly 2/3rds of Auckland's border isolation staff have never been tested.https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zeal ... k-ago.html

That is rather shocking and coupled with the various escapees kind of makes this reversion to lockdown look inevitable. Of cause the Pm has now committed to compulsory testing, this is good but also akin to shutting the door once the horse has bolted.

This is absolutely dumbfounding! What on earth is this government thinking... Ive lost what very little faith I had in our ability to stop this virus when I read that. Not testing people who have contact with those in Quarantine is just ridiculous.

Calm down mate. As explained later, monitoring (temp and symptom checks) combined with PPE is the pragmatic approach. There’s a lot of hysteria being pushed in NZ over this... there’s an election looming. Media needs to be filtered carefully.

[Wignu]

Why is she even fronting the thing every day?

Because she's the PM.

Not worth replying to this one. Things have taken a Dark turn.

[Ramble on]

Why is she even fronting the thing every day?

Because she's the PM.

Understood

She doesn't trust Bloomfield the director of health to answer health questions on his own advice

[Gumboot]

Yeah, it's him all right. Thanks for the heads up, Guy.

[Ramble on]

Until she needs him to actually answer questions

[Enzedder]

She is so utterly full of shit to avoid an election move it is beginning to get annoying

She has until Monday to make a call on the election date. Why would she do it now?

Because she knows what she is doing?

I am glad we agree

[Enzedder]

Why is she even fronting the thing every day?

Because she's the PM.

Understood

She doesn't trust Bloomfield the director of health to answer health questions on his own advice

He is there to assist her, not vice versa

[Ramble on]

Well that was a fantastic party political broadcast.

I for one am voting Jacinda, or whatever party she is in

[Guy Smiley]

Yeah, it's him all right. Thanks for the heads up, Guy.

[Ramble on]

Because she's the PM.

Understood

She doesn't trust Bloomfield the director of health to answer health questions on his own advice

He is there to assist her, not vice versa

I realise the last health minister was shite, but why was it not Chippy?

It is blatant electioneering and funny in pretending not to be

[hareaway]

Happy with that . Sucks to be you Auckland .

No word on how it got back ... sneaky little fvcker ain’t it