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Re: Things that annoy you

Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2021 9:11 am
by Tichtheid
Ted. wrote: Sun Jan 17, 2021 11:40 pm
Tichtheid wrote: Sun Jan 17, 2021 10:58 am
FujiKiwi wrote: Sun Jan 17, 2021 6:28 am

I can see why that would grate. But language often veers off from logic anyway. What does the “It’s” in “It’s raining” take the place of? The sentence makes no logical sense, but conveys meaning perfectly well. The same with, “I could care less”. It conveys meaning perfectly well in context, even if it’s daft in terms of logic.

Isn't "it" "the weather" in that case? - the weather is raining, the weather is hot, the weather is snowing etc.

In French they use the "to do" verb for weather, "it does some sunshine", "it does rain", it makes sense when you hear it from birth but it sounds clunky as a learner from another language.

I'm all for evolution of language, I have no problem with using a verb as a noun*, "verbing" if you will, but "I could care less" winds me up beyond reason.

*though when someone suggested "let's beer" I felt like smashing his face in.
Am I missing something here? "It's" ins simply a contraction of "it is", in this instances, a shortening of "it is raining" to "it's raining". Not to be confused with 'its .... is raining down on ..."

Yes, "it's" is a contraction of "it is", but what is "it"?

FujiKiwi is right that "it" stands in for something - where is the ball? It is over there - "it" is the ball in this case.

I'm no English teacher and I'm from the generation that was taught grammar without being taught the mechanics of it, I have no idea of the name of tenses beyond the simple past and present, but I know what sounds right and I wouldn't know a cognate object if it offered me a pint.

When we say "it's raining", something is raining and I think it's the weather.

Re: Things that annoy you

Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2021 10:45 am
by tabascoboy
Tichtheid wrote: Tue Jan 19, 2021 9:11 am
Ted. wrote: Sun Jan 17, 2021 11:40 pm
Tichtheid wrote: Sun Jan 17, 2021 10:58 am


Isn't "it" "the weather" in that case? - the weather is raining, the weather is hot, the weather is snowing etc.

In French they use the "to do" verb for weather, "it does some sunshine", "it does rain", it makes sense when you hear it from birth but it sounds clunky as a learner from another language.

I'm all for evolution of language, I have no problem with using a verb as a noun*, "verbing" if you will, but "I could care less" winds me up beyond reason.

*though when someone suggested "let's beer" I felt like smashing his face in.
Am I missing something here? "It's" ins simply a contraction of "it is", in this instances, a shortening of "it is raining" to "it's raining". Not to be confused with 'its .... is raining down on ..."

Yes, "it's" is a contraction of "it is", but what is "it"?

FujiKiwi is right that "it" stands in for something - where is the ball? It is over there - "it" is the ball in this case.

I'm no English teacher and I'm from the generation that was taught grammar without being taught the mechanics of it, I have no idea of the name of tenses beyond the simple past and present, but I know what sounds right and I wouldn't know a cognate object if it offered me a pint.

When we say "it's raining", something is raining and I think it's the weather.
Same construction in
German: es regnet = it rains / it is raining
Dutch: Het regent = it rains / it is raining
Norwegian: det regner = it rains / it is raining
etc

So blame whatever grammatic pioneer devised this construction for Germanic languages way back in the day, as it presumably goes back to Proto-Germanic. "It" is essentially an empty subject.

In Japanese it is more like "rain falls / is falling" = 雨が降ってる , which does sound a little better I guess

Re: Things that annoy you

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2021 6:03 pm
by Torquemada 1420
"young people".

Do they mean "children"? :think:

Re: Things that annoy you

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2021 12:34 am
by sockwithaticket
Songs that seem to mostly comprise of the chorus endlessly on repeat. It's so dull often exacerbated by the actual chorus itself not being anything particularly novel or interesting.

Needs to be 3 and done, especially if you're sticking with a standard verse - chorus - verse - chorus - bridge - chorus structure.

Re: Things that annoy you

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2021 1:48 am
by Kiwias
tabascoboy wrote: Tue Jan 19, 2021 10:45 am
Tichtheid wrote: Tue Jan 19, 2021 9:11 am
Ted. wrote: Sun Jan 17, 2021 11:40 pm

Am I missing something here? "It's" ins simply a contraction of "it is", in this instances, a shortening of "it is raining" to "it's raining". Not to be confused with 'its .... is raining down on ..."

Yes, "it's" is a contraction of "it is", but what is "it"?

FujiKiwi is right that "it" stands in for something - where is the ball? It is over there - "it" is the ball in this case.

I'm no English teacher and I'm from the generation that was taught grammar without being taught the mechanics of it, I have no idea of the name of tenses beyond the simple past and present, but I know what sounds right and I wouldn't know a cognate object if it offered me a pint.

When we say "it's raining", something is raining and I think it's the weather.
Same construction in
German: es regnet = it rains / it is raining
Dutch: Het regent = it rains / it is raining
Norwegian: det regner = it rains / it is raining
etc

So blame whatever grammatic pioneer devised this construction for Germanic languages way back in the day, as it presumably goes back to Proto-Germanic. "It" is essentially an empty subject.

In Japanese it is more like "rain falls / is falling" = 雨が降ってる , which does sound a little better I guess
Or you can just say, "today is rain" 今日は雨です。

Re: Things that annoy you

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2021 2:18 am
by PlanetGlyndwr
grammar nazis can fudge off

Re: Things that annoy you

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2021 3:58 am
by mat the expat
Cunts

Re: Things that annoy you

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2021 4:38 am
by Hugo
People that only propagate the "I have a dream" version of MLK like that's the only meaningful speech he ever gave.

It's a complete insult to his legacy, he was much more than some docile, friendly black guy who wanted everyone to get on. He had really insightful things to say about poverty, imperialism, militarism, violence, the class system, the ruling classes, ignorance, financial exploitation, media manipulation, northern hypocrisy and such which are entirely overlooked.

Re: Things that annoy you

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2021 7:36 am
by Rinkals
People who refer to someone dying as having "passed".

Passed water? Passed wind?

Also referring to people who have died as "looking down on us".

If there IS as fucking afterlife, it'd have to be extremely fucking tedious for them to pay the slightest bit of attention to whatever is happening in your life...

Re: Things that annoy you

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2021 8:39 am
by Tichtheid
"Each to their own" - possibly the dullest phrase in the English language.

Not to be confused with "Live and let live", the only thing that shouldn't be tolerated is intolerance, but have a discussion, be passionate about things, state your case and defend it, listen with an open mind and be prepared to be convinced.

Re: Things that annoy you

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2021 1:46 pm
by GogLais
Tichtheid wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 8:39 am "Each to their own" - possibly the dullest phrase in the English language.

Not to be confused with "Live and let live", the only thing that shouldn't be tolerated is intolerance, but have a discussion, be passionate about things, state your case and defend it, listen with an open mind and be prepared to be convinced.
People who deliberately park in two or even four spaces to avoid having their doors dented.

Re: Things that annoy you

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2021 1:50 pm
by Tichtheid
GogLais wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 1:46 pm
Tichtheid wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 8:39 am "Each to their own" - possibly the dullest phrase in the English language.

Not to be confused with "Live and let live", the only thing that shouldn't be tolerated is intolerance, but have a discussion, be passionate about things, state your case and defend it, listen with an open mind and be prepared to be convinced.
People who deliberately park in two or even four spaces to avoid having their doors dented.


Ah ha! You've reminded me of something -

When you leave your car in the empty area of the car park , miles away from the supermarket, and when you get back there is one other car in that area, right beside you, or two cars, one either side of you.

Re: Things that annoy you

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2021 2:05 pm
by GogLais
Tichtheid wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 1:50 pm
GogLais wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 1:46 pm
Tichtheid wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 8:39 am "Each to their own" - possibly the dullest phrase in the English language.

Not to be confused with "Live and let live", the only thing that shouldn't be tolerated is intolerance, but have a discussion, be passionate about things, state your case and defend it, listen with an open mind and be prepared to be convinced.
People who deliberately park in two or even four spaces to avoid having their doors dented.


Ah ha! You've reminded me of something -

When you leave your car in the empty area of the car park , miles away from the supermarket, and when you get back there is one other car in that area, right beside you, or two cars, one either side of you.
Apparently some people get to a stage where they can't remember where they left their car. I don't believe it.

Re: Things that annoy you

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2021 2:19 pm
by The Druid
GogLais wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 1:46 pm
Tichtheid wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 8:39 am "Each to their own" - possibly the dullest phrase in the English language.

Not to be confused with "Live and let live", the only thing that shouldn't be tolerated is intolerance, but have a discussion, be passionate about things, state your case and defend it, listen with an open mind and be prepared to be convinced.
People who deliberately park in two or even four spaces to avoid having their doors dented.
You are not an Audi driver, are you?

Re: Things that annoy you

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2021 2:22 pm
by GogLais
The Druid wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 2:19 pm
GogLais wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 1:46 pm
Tichtheid wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 8:39 am "Each to their own" - possibly the dullest phrase in the English language.

Not to be confused with "Live and let live", the only thing that shouldn't be tolerated is intolerance, but have a discussion, be passionate about things, state your case and defend it, listen with an open mind and be prepared to be convinced.
People who deliberately park in two or even four spaces to avoid having their doors dented.
You are not an Audi driver, are you?
Golf now. I used to have one of the brick shaped no power steering 1980s Audi 80s. Wonderful car, it was like driving a ship.

Re: Things that annoy you

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2021 2:28 pm
by Woddy
Tichtheid wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 1:50 pm
GogLais wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 1:46 pm
Tichtheid wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 8:39 am "Each to their own" - possibly the dullest phrase in the English language.

Not to be confused with "Live and let live", the only thing that shouldn't be tolerated is intolerance, but have a discussion, be passionate about things, state your case and defend it, listen with an open mind and be prepared to be convinced.
People who deliberately park in two or even four spaces to avoid having their doors dented.


Ah ha! You've reminded me of something -

When you leave your car in the empty area of the car park , miles away from the supermarket, and when you get back there is one other car in that area, right beside you, or two cars, one either side of you.
Apparently, most people can't help it. Part of our social make-up.

But I share in the wish for capital punishment for those who take up more than one space; and those who leap nimbly out of their car, having parked in a disabled space.

Drivers who evidently never use mirrors. Slow drivers on country lanes who refuse to pull over and the let the column of traffic behind them past. Drivers who stick in the outside lane at 80 when they are not overtaking anyone. In sum, drivers.

Re: Things that annoy you

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2021 3:11 pm
by Tichtheid
Woddy wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 2:28 pm

Slow drivers on country lanes who refuse to pull over and the let the column of traffic behind them past.

I worked as a fencing contractor out of a farm in Sussex for a while, the farmer ran his own place as well as supplying farm services, so we had shearers, dairymen, tractor drivers etc, most of them were Kiwis.



The Kiwis who drove the tractors had competitions to see how many cars they could get tailed back behind them

Re: Things that annoy you

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2021 3:48 pm
by Woddy
Tichtheid wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 3:11 pm
Woddy wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 2:28 pm

Slow drivers on country lanes who refuse to pull over and the let the column of traffic behind them past.

I worked as a fencing contractor out of a farm in Sussex for a while, the farmer ran his own place as well as supplying farm services, so we had shearers, dairymen, tractor drivers etc, most of them were Kiwis.



The Kiwis who drove the tractors had competitions to see how many cars they could get tailed back behind them
Utter bastards. Blackguards. I must invest in rockets mounted on my bonnet.

Re: Things that annoy you

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2021 5:09 pm
by PCPhil
Suppossed managers who can't make a decision without calling a meeting as they really are overpromoted tossers who are full of insecurities that Hans from Germany wants their job.

and people who can't spell.

Re: Things that annoy you

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2021 7:26 pm
by Punter15
Tichtheid wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 1:50 pm
GogLais wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 1:46 pm
Tichtheid wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 8:39 am "Each to their own" - possibly the dullest phrase in the English language.

Not to be confused with "Live and let live", the only thing that shouldn't be tolerated is intolerance, but have a discussion, be passionate about things, state your case and defend it, listen with an open mind and be prepared to be convinced.
People who deliberately park in two or even four spaces to avoid having their doors dented.
Got into a very tasty argument with an old boy recently who yelled at me for parking too close to him, when I’d parked in the middle of a space and he’d plonked his right on the line. Arsehole.

Ah ha! You've reminded me of something -

When you leave your car in the empty area of the car park , miles away from the supermarket, and when you get back there is one other car in that area, right beside you, or two cars, one either side of you.

Re: Things that annoy you

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2021 10:40 pm
by Un Pilier
Woddy wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 3:48 pm
Tichtheid wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 3:11 pm
Woddy wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 2:28 pm

Slow drivers on country lanes who refuse to pull over and the let the column of traffic behind them past.

I worked as a fencing contractor out of a farm in Sussex for a while, the farmer ran his own place as well as supplying farm services, so we had shearers, dairymen, tractor drivers etc, most of them were Kiwis.



The Kiwis who drove the tractors had competitions to see how many cars they could get tailed back behind them
Utter bastards. Blackguards. I must invest in rockets mounted on my bonnet.
Stingers! Stinger missiles! They’re an optional extra on my big sod-off SUV! :twisted:

Re: Things that annoy you

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2021 4:00 am
by Niegs
Un Pilier wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 10:40 pm
Stingers! Stinger missiles! They’re an optional extra on my big sod-off SUV! :twisted:
Ahem, but Stingers are surface to air. You'll want something like a TOW...

Image

Re: Things that annoy you

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2021 10:21 pm
by Un Pilier
Niegs wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 4:00 am
Un Pilier wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 10:40 pm
Stingers! Stinger missiles! They’re an optional extra on my big sod-off SUV! :twisted:
Ahem, but Stingers are surface to air. You'll want something like a TOW...

Image
Fair point. But I get a fair few microlight thingies round my way. Why some knobhead thinks they are entitled to spoil the peace and enjoyment of thousands is a mystery and irritant to me. Perhaps we need a suite of “disincentives” :twisted:

Re: Things that annoy you

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2021 11:25 pm
by Random1
Un Pilier wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 10:21 pm
Niegs wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 4:00 am
Un Pilier wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 10:40 pm
Stingers! Stinger missiles! They’re an optional extra on my big sod-off SUV! :twisted:
Ahem, but Stingers are surface to air. You'll want something like a TOW...

Image
Fair point. But I get a fair few microlight thingies round my way. Why some knobhead thinks they are entitled to spoil the peace and enjoyment of thousands is a mystery and irritant to me. Perhaps we need a suite of “disincentives” :twisted:
Same principle as something that really gets my goat; modified cars with oversized, noisy exhausts.

The sole purpose they have those exhausts is to be noisy, so the sole reason they do it is to piss people off.

I’m people. I’m pissed off!

Congratulations you fucking twats! 😤

Re: Things that annoy you

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2021 12:54 am
by Niegs
Random1 wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 11:25 pm
Un Pilier wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 10:21 pm

Fair point. But I get a fair few microlight thingies round my way. Why some knobhead thinks they are entitled to spoil the peace and enjoyment of thousands is a mystery and irritant to me. Perhaps we need a suite of “disincentives” :twisted:
Same principle as something that really gets my goat; modified cars with oversized, noisy exhausts.

The sole purpose they have those exhausts is to be noisy, so the sole reason they do it is to piss people off.

I’m people. I’m pissed off!

Congratulations you fucking twats! 😤
My father/brother (both gearheads) say the new fad here is this ... twats modding their pickups to emit black smoke when they rev the engine. :mad:
https://www.youtube.com/watch/luVfs2wUK7Y

Re: Things that annoy you

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2021 1:43 am
by Dinsdale Piranha
Niegs wrote: Sun Jan 24, 2021 12:54 am
Random1 wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 11:25 pm
Un Pilier wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 10:21 pm

Fair point. But I get a fair few microlight thingies round my way. Why some knobhead thinks they are entitled to spoil the peace and enjoyment of thousands is a mystery and irritant to me. Perhaps we need a suite of “disincentives” :twisted:
Same principle as something that really gets my goat; modified cars with oversized, noisy exhausts.

The sole purpose they have those exhausts is to be noisy, so the sole reason they do it is to piss people off.

I’m people. I’m pissed off!

Congratulations you fucking twats! 😤
My father/brother (both gearheads) say the new fad here is this ... twats modding their pickups to emit black smoke when they rev the engine. :mad:
https://www.youtube.com/watch/luVfs2wUK7Y
Rolling Coal is the expression. Not that new sadly https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolling_coal

Re: Things that annoy you

Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2021 12:45 am
by mat the expat
Roadside assist companies that take your money, yet refuse to assist at midnight on a busy motorway

Cunts

Re: Things that annoy you

Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2021 8:11 am
by Sandstorm
mat the expat wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 12:45 am Roadside assist companies that take your money, yet refuse to assist at midnight on a busy motorway

Cunts
Change your own tyre. What could go wrong?

Re: Things that annoy you

Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2021 6:12 pm
by Rinkals
Sandstorm wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 8:11 am
mat the expat wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 12:45 am Roadside assist companies that take your money, yet refuse to assist at midnight on a busy motorway

Cunts
Change your own tyre. What could go wrong?
Where's the pic of Coog?

Re: Things that annoy you

Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2021 7:21 pm
by Nickdemus
You fokkin annoy me :problem:

Re: Things that annoy you

Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2021 7:21 pm
by Nickdemus
You fokkin annoy me :problem:

Re: Things that annoy you

Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2021 11:56 pm
by mat the expat
Sandstorm wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 8:11 am
mat the expat wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 12:45 am Roadside assist companies that take your money, yet refuse to assist at midnight on a busy motorway

Cunts
Change your own tyre. What could go wrong?
:clap:

In all seriousness, it was amazing I managed to drift across 4 lanes at 100kph with no power - 3 lanes of trucks inside me. Then the smell of petrol everywhere :eek:

Re: Things that annoy you

Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2021 2:02 am
by Kiwias
mat the expat wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 11:56 pm
Sandstorm wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 8:11 am
mat the expat wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 12:45 am Roadside assist companies that take your money, yet refuse to assist at midnight on a busy motorway

Cunts
Change your own tyre. What could go wrong?
:clap:

In all seriousness, it was amazing I managed to drift across 4 lanes at 100kph with no power - 3 lanes of trucks inside me. Then the smell of petrol everywhere :eek:
It sounds like something a crazy youngster would do for a dare.

Re: Things that annoy you

Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2021 2:09 am
by mat the expat
Kiwias wrote: Tue Jan 26, 2021 2:02 am
mat the expat wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 11:56 pm
Sandstorm wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 8:11 am

Change your own tyre. What could go wrong?
:clap:

In all seriousness, it was amazing I managed to drift across 4 lanes at 100kph with no power - 3 lanes of trucks inside me. Then the smell of petrol everywhere :eek:
It sounds like something a crazy youngster would do for a dare.
It's when I realised that life is too short...

Re: Things that annoy you

Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2021 4:00 am
by Kiwias
mat the expat wrote: Tue Jan 26, 2021 2:09 am
Kiwias wrote: Tue Jan 26, 2021 2:02 am
mat the expat wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 11:56 pm

:clap:

In all seriousness, it was amazing I managed to drift across 4 lanes at 100kph with no power - 3 lanes of trucks inside me. Then the smell of petrol everywhere :eek:
It sounds like something a crazy youngster would do for a dare.
It's when I realised that life is too short...
:grin: :grin:

Re: Things that annoy you

Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2021 7:39 am
by Slick
Un Pilier wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 10:21 pm
Niegs wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 4:00 am
Un Pilier wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 10:40 pm
Stingers! Stinger missiles! They’re an optional extra on my big sod-off SUV! :twisted:
Ahem, but Stingers are surface to air. You'll want something like a TOW...

Image
Fair point. But I get a fair few microlight thingies round my way. Why some knobhead thinks they are entitled to spoil the peace and enjoyment of thousands is a mystery and irritant to me. Perhaps we need a suite of “disincentives” :twisted:
I was speaking to a guy in the park who was telling me his new hobby is taking his drone to the hills and flying it about. My head was just saying “cunt cunt”. It can really spoil a day out.

Re: Things that annoy you

Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2021 11:01 am
by Un Pilier
Slick wrote: Tue Jan 26, 2021 7:39 am
Un Pilier wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 10:21 pm
Niegs wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 4:00 am

Ahem, but Stingers are surface to air. You'll want something like a TOW...

Image
Fair point. But I get a fair few microlight thingies round my way. Why some knobhead thinks they are entitled to spoil the peace and enjoyment of thousands is a mystery and irritant to me. Perhaps we need a suite of “disincentives” :twisted:
I was speaking to a guy in the park who was telling me his new hobby is taking his drone to the hills and flying it about. My head was just saying “cunt cunt”. It can really spoil a day out.
Yep. Devil’s spawn!

Re: Things that annoy you

Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2021 4:59 pm
by sockwithaticket
Vague corporate diversity pushes.

We've had an email today that states the company is lacking in diversity and the executive will be working on a plan to improve the situation.

I'd like a little bit more context than that. By what metric are we lacking in diversity? The implication is that there's a level where we're no longer lacking, what is that and how was it determined? Where do we currently sit in relation to it?

Re: Things that annoy you

Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2021 6:44 pm
by Un Pilier
sockwithaticket wrote: Tue Jan 26, 2021 4:59 pm Vague corporate diversity pushes.

We've had an email today that states the company is lacking in diversity and the executive will be working on a plan to improve the situation.

I'd like a little bit more context than that. By what metric are we lacking in diversity? The implication is that there's a level where we're no longer lacking, what is that and how was it determined? Where do we currently sit in relation to it?
So, how many wringer outs for one - armed window cleaners do you have? Just asking. We can drill down from there.

Re: Things that annoy you

Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2021 11:56 pm
by mat the expat
Slick wrote: Tue Jan 26, 2021 7:39 am

I was speaking to a guy in the park who was telling me his new hobby is taking his drone to the hills and flying it about. My head was just saying “cunt cunt”. It can really spoil a day out.
That would prompt me to trail him with a home-made Gauss Gun.