NPR

Sandstorm wrote: ↑Sat Nov 28, 2020 6:13 pm Bring back crowds so we can’t hear the squealing from both benches.

Cartman wrote: ↑Sat Nov 28, 2020 6:14 pm Pearce totally said ivan van Snail there

Sandstorm wrote: ↑Sat Nov 28, 2020 6:23 pm Ruaan Nel is an underrated player

Chilli wrote: ↑Sat Nov 28, 2020 6:25 pm

Sandstorm wrote: ↑Sat Nov 28, 2020 6:23 pm Ruaan Nel is an underrated player

Plays to many nothing games

Sandstorm wrote: ↑Sat Nov 28, 2020 6:44 pm Bulls win, deserved after lifting the intensity despite a bullshit red card

Chilli wrote: ↑Sat Nov 28, 2020 7:28 pm After the weekend:
The Bulls played well at stages, were lucky to win.
The WP didn't play all that well, should have won. If they play to their potential they will be in the final. In my opinion: play Swiel or Quade. Willemse just is not a 10.
The Sharks played efficiently. Did the job. There is something about how they played that made me think that they could just get it right

assfly wrote: ↑Sun Nov 29, 2020 5:07 am
My take on the weekend.

One game totally one-sided.
One game ruined by the weather
One game ruined by the ref

I'm starting to worry about the upcoming Lions series.

OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Sun Nov 29, 2020 5:18 am Yep, Rasta is a qouta, I could not understand that red card, thought it should not even a yellow. Justice in the end with the Bulls win.

This is very good medicine for WeePee. The next two games is make or break for them.

Sards wrote: ↑Sun Nov 29, 2020 5:18 am Probably the most pleasing aspect of the poor reffing is that the right outcome still occurred irrespective of the poor calls. I understand that there was a lot of emotion attached to the game but getting a result should not influence a game. Huge kudos to the Bulls for pulling it off. That is JWs influence.
I never enjoyed Whites stint at the Sharks because he was trying to knock a square peg into a round hole, but he has found the right home at the Bulls.

Sards wrote: ↑Sun Nov 29, 2020 5:19 am

OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Sun Nov 29, 2020 5:18 am Yep, Rasta is a qouta, I could not understand that red card, thought it should not even a yellow. Justice in the end with the Bulls win.

This is very good medicine for WeePee. The next two games is make or break for them.

The TMO was the final call

assfly wrote: ↑Sun Nov 29, 2020 5:07 am

Chilli wrote: ↑Sat Nov 28, 2020 7:28 pm After the weekend:
The Bulls played well at stages, were lucky to win.
The WP didn't play all that well, should have won. If they play to their potential they will be in the final. In my opinion: play Swiel or Quade. Willemse just is not a 10.
The Sharks played efficiently. Did the job. There is something about how they played that made me think that they could just get it right

My take on the weekend.

One game totally one-sided.
One game ruined by the weather
One game ruined by the ref

I'm starting to worry about the upcoming Lions series.

Chilli wrote: ↑Sun Nov 29, 2020 6:34 am

Sards wrote: ↑Sun Nov 29, 2020 5:19 am

OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Sun Nov 29, 2020 5:18 am Yep, Rasta is a qouta, I could not understand that red card, thought it should not even a yellow. Justice in the end with the Bulls win.

This is very good medicine for WeePee. The next two games is make or break for them.

The TMO was the final call

Nope. Not how I saw it. The TMO said yellow, the Ref then went red and the TMO changed his mind.

Sards wrote: ↑Sun Nov 29, 2020 7:25 am

Chilli wrote: ↑Sun Nov 29, 2020 6:34 am

Sards wrote: ↑Sun Nov 29, 2020 5:19 am

The TMO was the final call

Nope. Not how I saw it. The TMO said yellow, the Ref then went red and the TMO changed his mind.

I understand that. But the TMO has the advantage of technology to make the call. Surely he can override the ref on field. Which is why I said final call. Or am I wrong?
In the context of the game it gave the Stormers a huge advantage at scrum time...their go to penalty

Chilli wrote: ↑Sun Nov 29, 2020 8:07 am In my understanding the Ref has the say. However, in this instance the TMO advised a yellow, and when the Ref said red should have stuck to his guns and said "My recommendation is yellow".

Either way it was never a red, maybe a yellow.

2. Possible foul play. The TMO is free to communicate with the referee at any time if he sees something he suspects is foul play. Equally, the referee can ask the TMO to look at an incident, either while the game continues or after stopping play.


Strong signal: referees can draw a box to signify to the crowd that a decision has gone to the TMO (Getty)

Doesn’t it hold the game up?

Yes. But efficient use of the TMO system has improved over the years. Referees have been encouraged to refer fewer decisions ‘upstairs’ in a bid to reduce the interruptions.

Usually the footage is shown on a big screen inside the ground. If he likes, the referee can make a quick decision himself, without waiting to hear what the TMO has to say.


World Rugby spell out in their laws that “the referee should not be subservient to the system” and that he is “the decision-maker and must remain in charge of the game”.

Generally what happens is that the referee will relay “what I’m seeing” to the TMO, who will agree with him. The decision is made and the game resumes.

But there are instances of TMOs trying to persuade a referee to change his mind. If they say “Would you like to look at it again?”, it suggests they think the ref has made the wrong call!