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Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread
Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2024 7:31 am
by Biffer
Blackmac wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2024 12:17 am
Slick wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2024 11:05 am
weegie01 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 07, 2024 2:04 pm
A non season ticketholder friend suggested he might come down with me to the Edinburgh v Gloucester match. I had a look for tickets and was surprised to discover the stands are effectively sold out with a few single seats available along with some standing.
Was looking for tickets last night myself and couldn’t find 3 together. Great news for the club.
I’ll try earlier next time…
They really should have built a bigger stadium.
Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread
Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2024 7:31 am
by robmatic
dpedin wrote: ↑Wed Jan 10, 2024 4:01 pm
Tichtheid wrote: ↑Wed Jan 10, 2024 1:36 pm
That's encouraging news about the injury list, for Glasgow as well as for Scotland.
I've read a few positive comments on Bradbury's form, I thought he played pretty well last week, the only time I've seen him in the last couple of months. It will be interesting to see if he makes the squad.
He has been getting excellent ratings for his displays for Bristol and is seen as an 8 who makes yards with ball in hand. I wouldn't be surprised to see him come north back to Embra in place of Mata. I would welcome this move.
I don't think there's much value for the SRU in bringing Bradbury back to Edinburgh when he's got a decent enough gig down south and he's well out of favour with the Scotland selectors. It's probably better for Muncaster to be getting games or Crosbie to continue his development there.
Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread
Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2024 10:02 am
by dpedin
robmatic wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2024 7:31 am
dpedin wrote: ↑Wed Jan 10, 2024 4:01 pm
Tichtheid wrote: ↑Wed Jan 10, 2024 1:36 pm
That's encouraging news about the injury list, for Glasgow as well as for Scotland.
I've read a few positive comments on Bradbury's form, I thought he played pretty well last week, the only time I've seen him in the last couple of months. It will be interesting to see if he makes the squad.
He has been getting excellent ratings for his displays for Bristol and is seen as an 8 who makes yards with ball in hand. I wouldn't be surprised to see him come north back to Embra in place of Mata. I would welcome this move.
I don't think there's much value for the SRU in bringing Bradbury back to Edinburgh when he's got a decent enough gig down south and he's well out of favour with the Scotland selectors. It's probably better for Muncaster to be getting games or Crosbie to continue his development there.
He is a bit of a different type of player than Muncaster and Crosbie though. Bradbury is a big beast of a man and can carry into contact and make yards all day long, a bit like Mata did, but without the handling skills. Muncaster and Crosbie, both of whom I really rate, are not quite as big and are more dynamic mobile type of players, Crosbie is as hard as nails and more suited to 6 for me and Muncaster is more suited when we are playing a faster game against smaller packs. Embra need a big ball carrying 8 as part of the squad and once Mata goes we are a bit light in that dept particularly when playing big packs.
Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread
Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2024 10:54 am
by Tichtheid
I think there is a lot to be said for Ronan O'Gara's way of thinking that you don't beat Leinster by going around them, you beat them by going though them up the middle - the last European Cup final was a classic example of that. That can be extrapolated to Ireland and the other teams. It's just where we are with rugby at the moment, South Africa triumphed by replacing their pack in the latter period of the game during the RWC.
With that in mind you can't have too many big ball carriers in your squad, I'd welcome Bradbury back to Edinburgh, but I think Crosbie and Muncaster are both capable of making yards after contact - which is the buzz phrase at the moment
Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread
Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2024 10:55 am
by KingBlairhorn
dpedin wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2024 10:02 am
robmatic wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2024 7:31 am
dpedin wrote: ↑Wed Jan 10, 2024 4:01 pm
He has been getting excellent ratings for his displays for Bristol and is seen as an 8 who makes yards with ball in hand. I wouldn't be surprised to see him come north back to Embra in place of Mata. I would welcome this move.
I don't think there's much value for the SRU in bringing Bradbury back to Edinburgh when he's got a decent enough gig down south and he's well out of favour with the Scotland selectors. It's probably better for Muncaster to be getting games or Crosbie to continue his development there.
He is a bit of a different type of player than Muncaster and Crosbie though. Bradbury is a big beast of a man and can carry into contact and make yards all day long, a bit like Mata did, but without the handling skills. Muncaster and Crosbie, both of whom I really rate, are not quite as big and are more dynamic mobile type of players, Crosbie is as hard as nails and more suited to 6 for me and Muncaster is more suited when we are playing a faster game against smaller packs. Embra need a big ball carrying 8 as part of the squad and once Mata goes we are a bit light in that dept particularly when playing big packs.
I don't think there is much in the academy either. There's Liam McConnell but he is predominantly a blindside. The U20 outstanding 8 of the last few years that sticks in my mind was Ollie Leatherbarrow and he is currently at Newcastle. Below U20 level I have no real idea who is coming through if anyone.
Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread
Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2024 11:04 am
by Slick
dpedin wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2024 10:02 am
robmatic wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2024 7:31 am
dpedin wrote: ↑Wed Jan 10, 2024 4:01 pm
He has been getting excellent ratings for his displays for Bristol and is seen as an 8 who makes yards with ball in hand. I wouldn't be surprised to see him come north back to Embra in place of Mata. I would welcome this move.
I don't think there's much value for the SRU in bringing Bradbury back to Edinburgh when he's got a decent enough gig down south and he's well out of favour with the Scotland selectors. It's probably better for Muncaster to be getting games or Crosbie to continue his development there.
He is a bit of a different type of player than Muncaster and Crosbie though. Bradbury is a big beast of a man and can carry into contact and make yards all day long, a bit like Mata did, but without the handling skills. Muncaster and Crosbie, both of whom I really rate, are not quite as big and are more dynamic mobile type of players, Crosbie is as hard as nails and more suited to 6 for me and Muncaster is more suited when we are playing a faster game against smaller packs. Embra need a big ball carrying 8 as part of the squad and once Mata goes we are a bit light in that dept particularly when playing big packs.
I agree with robmatic really. He is indeed a beast of a man, but he only used to be an actual beast on relatively few occasions. He was great when he was, but it really didn't happen very often. He strikes me as the kind of bloke that needs to be put out of his comfort zone to reach his full potential and I could quite easily see him slipping back into relax mode if he came back.
I'd have him back for training squads in a flash to see how he is doing but let someone else pay his wages and keep him on the edge.
Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread
Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2024 12:13 pm
by westport
Posh boy Sam back in contention to play against Glaws this weekend
Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread
Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2024 12:33 pm
by Begbie
Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread
Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2024 1:16 pm
by SaintK
I bet Healy's delighted!!
Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread
Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2024 1:37 pm
by Tichtheid
SaintK wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2024 1:16 pm
I bet Healy's delighted!!
I do wonder about these sorts of stories. You read about players' agents planting items in the press. Barrett and Mo'unga are both playing in Japan, McKenzie is probably the guy in the 10 shirt, but Burke's coach at Crusaders is taking over as national Big Cheese.
If you are in with a shout of the All Blacks, do you turn it down? The money would have to be astronomical, I'm not sure the SRU has it.
His name sounds more Irish than Scottish - Healy and now Carberry are out the window at Munster... (that's just a bit of mischief, I don't know his qualifications for playing for other nations)
Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread
Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2024 5:14 pm
by weegie01
I missed the fact that Edinburgh has a season ticket exchange facility triggered when the match is a sell out as it has for the Gloucester game. A combination of weather and going away the following day means I won't see this one either but I've sent my ticket to my sone who'll take a chum.
Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread
Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2024 6:12 pm
by Big D
We need to have a long term plan. Finn is in his 30s and in that bracket retirement/international retirement could come quicker than we want.
Hastings has had a few tough injuries in his career and they can add up quickly and lead to a drop off.
Behind Finn there are good but not undeniably top international class players. It makes sense to look at all potslential candidates for the shirt.
The SRU will speak to loads of players. This will be an agent leaking a story.
No doubt Tuipulotu Jnr will be linked again too.
Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread
Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2024 9:00 am
by KingBlairhorn
Tichtheid wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2024 1:37 pm
SaintK wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2024 1:16 pm
I bet Healy's delighted!!
I do wonder about these sorts of stories. You read about players' agents planting items in the press. Barrett and Mo'unga are both playing in Japan, McKenzie is probably the guy in the 10 shirt, but Burke's coach at Crusaders is taking over as national Big Cheese.
If you are in with a shout of the All Blacks, do you turn it down? The money would have to be astronomical, I'm not sure the SRU has it.
His name sounds more Irish than Scottish - Healy and now Carberry are out the window at Munster... (that's just a bit of mischief, I don't know his qualifications for playing for other nations)
I'd tend to agree Tichtheid, it has 'agent wants to show client has options so give him a big payrise' written all over it. Best of luck to the chap, I'd be delighted if he throws his lot in with us, but I severely doubt he will.
Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread
Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2024 10:29 am
by Jock42
Dodson stepping down in the summer.
Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread
Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2024 10:35 am
by Slick
Jock42 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2024 10:29 am
Dodson stepping down in the summer.
Probably time for a change, but I don't really get all the vitriol thrown at him. His main task was to sort finances which he has done a very decent job of.
Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread
Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2024 10:54 am
by Tichtheid
Slick wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2024 10:35 am
Jock42 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2024 10:29 am
Dodson stepping down in the summer.
Probably time for a change, but I don't really get all the vitriol thrown at him. His main task was to sort finances which he has done a very decent job of.
Ditto
Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread
Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2024 11:49 am
by Jock42
Slick wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2024 10:35 am
Jock42 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2024 10:29 am
Dodson stepping down in the summer.
Probably time for a change, but I don't really get all the vitriol thrown at him. His main task was to sort finances which he has done a very decent job of.
I'd agree. I think he's probably paid too much (but I think everyone paid more than me is and I don't know how much your average CEO is paid).
Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread
Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2024 11:56 am
by SaintK
Jock42 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2024 11:49 am
Slick wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2024 10:35 am
Jock42 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2024 10:29 am
Dodson stepping down in the summer.
Probably time for a change, but I don't really get all the vitriol thrown at him. His main task was to sort finances which he has done a very decent job of.
I'd agree. I think he's probably paid too much (but I think everyone paid more than me is and I don't know how much your average CEO is paid).
Bet it's a lot less than the £750k that the bastard Swenney at the RFU "earns" while he presides over the slow death of the community game in England
Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread
Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2024 12:20 pm
by Tichtheid
Edinburgh Rugby team to face Gloucester Rugby at Hive Stadium in the EPCR Challenge Cup
Saturday 13 January (kick-off 5.30pm) – live on Viaplay
15. Emiliano Boffelli (33)
14. Darcy Graham (63)
13. Mark Bennett (97)
12. Matt Currie (27)
11. Wes Goosen (21)
10. Ben Healy (10)
9. Ali Price (6)
1. Pierre Schoeman (106)
2. Dave Cherry (80)
3. WP Nel (195)
4. Sam Skinner (14)
5. Grant Gilchrist (196) CAPTAIN
6. Glen Young (33)
7. Hamish Watson (146)
8. Viliame Mata (125)
Replacements
16. Ewan Ashman (10)
17. Robin Hislop (24)
18. Angus Williams (24)
19. Marshall Sykes (52)
20. Tom Dodd (4)
21. Ben Vellacott (48)
22. James Lang (45)
23. Harry Paterson (7)
Unavailable: Connor Boyle (neck), Luan de Bruin (back), Luke Crosbie (neck), Jamie Hodgson (ankle), Ben Muncaster (foot), Jamie Ritchie (jaw), Javan Sebastian (knee), Scott Steele (hip), Nathan Sweeney (hamstring), Duhan van der Merwe (rested).
For me the unavailable list is another reason to bring back Bradbury if he's available - a European weekend and we're down four backrow players and Mata won't be here next year. This happens every season, it happened when we had Mata, Watson, Ritchie, Crosbie, Bradbury, Haining, Miller, Darge, Boyle and Kunavula on the backrow rota.
Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread
Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2024 12:38 pm
by KingBlairhorn
Jock42 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2024 11:49 am
Slick wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2024 10:35 am
Jock42 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2024 10:29 am
Dodson stepping down in the summer.
Probably time for a change, but I don't really get all the vitriol thrown at him. His main task was to sort finances which he has done a very decent job of.
I'd agree. I think he's probably paid too much (but I think everyone paid more than me is and I don't know how much your average CEO is paid).
I also agree, I have a horrible feeling this will be a ‘you don’t know what you’ve got until it’s gone’ kind of moment. We’ve had years of financial stability which have allowed us to try new things. Sure, some of them have been unsuccessful (and some outright clangers) but some of them have been very much successful (Edinburgh stadium, women’s pro players, Glasgow and Edinburgh player pool etc.). I’m not sure some of the younger fans throwing shade on social media remember what it was like pre-Dodson and the stability he’s brought.
Perhaps TOTM can maybe give us a wee flavour of the difference in the finances pre and post the Dodson era, maybe my memory isn’t is accurate as I presume of that topic which is his main legacy piece.
As an aside, expect him to turn up elsewhere (potential the rfu) in short order.
Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread
Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2024 12:45 pm
by Tichtheid
KingBlairhorn wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2024 12:38 pm
Jock42 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2024 11:49 am
Slick wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2024 10:35 am
Probably time for a change, but I don't really get all the vitriol thrown at him. His main task was to sort finances which he has done a very decent job of.
I'd agree. I think he's probably paid too much (but I think everyone paid more than me is and I don't know how much your average CEO is paid).
I also agree, I have a horrible feeling this will be a ‘you don’t know what you’ve got until it’s gone’ kind of moment. We’ve had years of financial stability which have allowed us to try new things. Sure, some of them have been unsuccessful (and some outright clangers) but some of them have been very much successful (Edinburgh stadium, women’s pro players, Glasgow and Edinburgh player pool etc.). I’m not sure some of the younger fans throwing shade on social media remember what it was like pre-Dodson and the stability he’s brought.
Perhaps TOTM can maybe give us a wee flavour of the difference in the finances pre and post the Dodson era, maybe my memory isn’t is accurate as I presume of that topic which is his main legacy piece.
As an aside, expect him to turn up elsewhere (potential the rfu) in short order.
Yeah, I agree on all points there KB.
IIRC TOTM did a breakdown of the financials several times over on the Glasgow board, they never quite showed the SRU in the bad light some would want
Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread
Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2024 1:15 pm
by Dogbert
Glasgow for Exeter
Good to see Fagerson Junior back & delighted to see Hiddleston get his first cap.
Light in the back row - strong on the bench
Going to be tough at Sandy Park , can't see us getting anything out of this one
1. Kebble
2. Hiddleston
3. Fagerson
4. Cummings
5. Samuel
6. Millar
7. Fagerson
8. Venter
9. Horne
10. Weir
11. Rowe
12. McDowall
13. Tuipolotu
14. Jones
15. McKay
16. Turner
17. Bhatti
18. Sordoni
19. Gray
20. Williamson
21. Ferrie
22. Afshar
23. Jordan
Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread
Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2024 1:23 pm
by westport
Slick wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2024 10:35 am
Jock42 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2024 10:29 am
Dodson stepping down in the summer.
Probably time for a change, but I don't really get all the vitriol thrown at him. His main task was to sort finances which he has done a very decent job of.
I agree, whilst he has not been everyone's favourite person he was brought into do a job. Whilst not everything that has been tried has come off, overall the finances which were all over the place are now in a decent place.
Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread
Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2024 1:24 pm
by Biffer
Tichtheid wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2024 12:20 pm
Edinburgh Rugby team to face Gloucester Rugby at Hive Stadium in the EPCR Challenge Cup
Saturday 13 January (kick-off 5.30pm) – live on Viaplay
15. Emiliano Boffelli (33)
14. Darcy Graham (63)
13. Mark Bennett (97)
12. Matt Currie (27)
11. Wes Goosen (21)
10. Ben Healy (10)
9. Ali Price (6)
1. Pierre Schoeman (106)
2. Dave Cherry (80)
3. WP Nel (195)
4. Sam Skinner (14)
5. Grant Gilchrist (196) CAPTAIN
6. Glen Young (33)
7. Hamish Watson (146)
8. Viliame Mata (125)
Replacements
16. Ewan Ashman (10)
17. Robin Hislop (24)
18. Angus Williams (24)
19. Marshall Sykes (52)
20. Tom Dodd (4)
21. Ben Vellacott (48)
22. James Lang (45)
23. Harry Paterson (7)
Unavailable: Connor Boyle (neck), Luan de Bruin (back), Luke Crosbie (neck), Jamie Hodgson (ankle), Ben Muncaster (foot), Jamie Ritchie (jaw), Javan Sebastian (knee), Scott Steele (hip), Nathan Sweeney (hamstring), Duhan van der Merwe (rested).
For me the unavailable list is another reason to bring back Bradbury if he's available - a European weekend and we're down four backrow players and Mata won't be here next year. This happens every season, it happened when we had Mata, Watson, Ritchie, Crosbie, Bradbury, Haining, Miller, Darge, Boyle and Kunavula on the backrow rota.
I'm not into bringing Bradbury back. If he's prospering where he is, let him get on with it. There will be more young guys coming through the academy like Tom Currie and we need to see guys like Dodd and Muncaster step up. sign a journeyman but not someone in the queue to get back into the Scotland squad. If he hit good form for us we'd be without him because of Scotland fixtures so we're no better off.
Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread
Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2024 2:55 pm
by KingBlairhorn
westport wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2024 1:23 pm
Slick wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2024 10:35 am
Jock42 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2024 10:29 am
Dodson stepping down in the summer.
Probably time for a change, but I don't really get all the vitriol thrown at him. His main task was to sort finances which he has done a very decent job of.
I agree, whilst he has not been everyone's favourite person he was brought into do a job. Whilst not everything that has been tried has come off, overall the finances which were all over the place are now in a decent place.
I also have vivid memories of going to internationals with crowds which must have been below 30k. The guy before Dodson (Dominic something?) tried to fix it with fireworks and razzmatazz rather than fix the fundamental issues of poor coaches, poor performance and poor professionalism. I’m never quite sure how lucky Dodson was with timing but it did all seem to turn around under his watch.
Edit: those crowds would have been pre-Dodson so maybe 2005-2013ish. I’m never good at remembering stuff like this!
Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread
Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2024 3:23 pm
by Slick
SaintK wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2024 11:56 am
Jock42 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2024 11:49 am
Slick wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2024 10:35 am
Probably time for a change, but I don't really get all the vitriol thrown at him. His main task was to sort finances which he has done a very decent job of.
I'd agree. I think he's probably paid too much (but I think everyone paid more than me is and I don't know how much your average CEO is paid).
Bet it's a lot less than the £750k that the bastard Swenney at the RFU "earns" while he presides over the slow death of the community game in England
I've seen £650k thrown about today
Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread
Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2024 3:24 pm
by Slick
I’m not sure some of the younger fans throwing shade
You should get a clip round the ear for that, sonny
Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread
Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2024 3:28 pm
by Tichtheid
Biffer wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2024 1:24 pm
I'm not into bringing Bradbury back. If he's prospering where he is, let him get on with it. There will be more young guys coming through the academy like Tom Currie and we need to see guys like Dodd and Muncaster step up. sign a journeyman but not someone in the queue to get back into the Scotland squad. If he hit good form for us we'd be without him because of Scotland fixtures so we're no better off.
It's not that many games per season, injuries can hit at any time. The likes of Currie and McConnell won't be ready for full seasons of pro rugby quite yet, they're both around 19/20. I'm sure Muncaster can make the grade, but he kind of proves my point, he's played nine minutes this season and has been injured since the Connacht game. Jamie Ritchie made his debut away to Leinster at age 18, but we also had a Kiwi guy in the second row in that match who did house flittings for living, such were the extent of our injuries. Mish is 32, he's not going to be around forever.
Glasgow have currently got three back rows injured with M. Fagerson only just back this week.
We need to have a good stock of like for as near as dammit like replacements if we are to improve our results. Who was the fair-heidit guy who joined us from Leicester? He won a couple of international caps. If that sort of guy was available he'd be okay, but for all the strength we've had over the years in the back row, we are not going to continue that way for too much longer
Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread
Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2024 4:09 pm
by Dogbert
Tichtheid wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2024 3:28 pm
Biffer wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2024 1:24 pm
I'm not into bringing Bradbury back. If he's prospering where he is, let him get on with it. There will be more young guys coming through the academy like Tom Currie and we need to see guys like Dodd and Muncaster step up. sign a journeyman but not someone in the queue to get back into the Scotland squad. If he hit good form for us we'd be without him because of Scotland fixtures so we're no better off.
It's not that many games per season, injuries can hit at any time. The likes of Currie and McConnell won't be ready for full seasons of pro rugby quite yet, they're both around 19/20. I'm sure Muncaster can make the grade, but he kind of proves my point, he's played nine minutes this season and has been injured since the Connacht game. Jamie Ritchie made his debut away to Leinster at age 18, but we also had a Kiwi guy in the second row in that match who did house flittings for living, such were the extent of our injuries. Mish is 32, he's not going to be around forever.
Glasgow have currently got three back rows injured with M. Fagerson only just back this week.
We need to have a good stock of like for as near as dammit like replacements if we are to improve our results. Who was the fair-heidit guy who joined us from Leicester? He won a couple of international caps. If that sort of guy was available he'd be okay, but for all the strength we've had over the years in the back row, we are not going to continue that way for too much longer
Glasgow currently have 4 back rows out injured, Darge, Dempsey, Brown and Valianu
Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread
Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2024 4:53 pm
by KingBlairhorn
Slick wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2024 3:24 pm
I’m not sure some of the younger fans throwing shade
You should get a clip round the ear for that, sonny
I did actually see a comment on twitter almost word for word to yours above, so maybe some of the auld yins are on twitter too, but they weren’t throwing shade!
Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread
Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2024 4:55 pm
by KingBlairhorn
Tichtheid wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2024 3:28 pm
Biffer wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2024 1:24 pm
I'm not into bringing Bradbury back. If he's prospering where he is, let him get on with it. There will be more young guys coming through the academy like Tom Currie and we need to see guys like Dodd and Muncaster step up. sign a journeyman but not someone in the queue to get back into the Scotland squad. If he hit good form for us we'd be without him because of Scotland fixtures so we're no better off.
It's not that many games per season, injuries can hit at any time. The likes of Currie and McConnell won't be ready for full seasons of pro rugby quite yet, they're both around 19/20. I'm sure Muncaster can make the grade, but he kind of proves my point, he's played nine minutes this season and has been injured since the Connacht game. Jamie Ritchie made his debut away to Leinster at age 18, but we also had a Kiwi guy in the second row in that match who did house flittings for living, such were the extent of our injuries. Mish is 32, he's not going to be around forever.
Glasgow have currently got three back rows injured with M. Fagerson only just back this week.
We need to have a good stock of like for as near as dammit like replacements if we are to improve our results. Who was the fair-heidit guy who joined us from Leicester? He won a couple of international caps. If that sort of guy was available he'd be okay, but for all the strength we've had over the years in the back row, we are not going to continue that way for too much longer
Believe it or not both Currie and Muncaster are now 22. If they aren’t ready for a full season of pro rugby at this point we are doing something very wrong.
Edit: you said Currie and McConnell. McConnell is indeed 19.
Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread
Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2024 4:58 pm
by Tichtheid
Dogbert wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2024 4:09 pm
Glasgow currently have 4 back rows out injured, Darge, Dempsey, Brown and Valianu
Brown was the one I missed in my count
Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread
Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2024 4:59 pm
by Tichtheid
KingBlairhorn wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2024 4:55 pm
Tichtheid wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2024 3:28 pm
Biffer wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2024 1:24 pm
I'm not into bringing Bradbury back. If he's prospering where he is, let him get on with it. There will be more young guys coming through the academy like Tom Currie and we need to see guys like Dodd and Muncaster step up. sign a journeyman but not someone in the queue to get back into the Scotland squad. If he hit good form for us we'd be without him because of Scotland fixtures so we're no better off.
It's not that many games per season, injuries can hit at any time. The likes of Currie and McConnell won't be ready for full seasons of pro rugby quite yet, they're both around 19/20. I'm sure Muncaster can make the grade, but he kind of proves my point, he's played nine minutes this season and has been injured since the Connacht game. Jamie Ritchie made his debut away to Leinster at age 18, but we also had a Kiwi guy in the second row in that match who did house flittings for living, such were the extent of our injuries. Mish is 32, he's not going to be around forever.
Glasgow have currently got three back rows injured with M. Fagerson only just back this week.
We need to have a good stock of like for as near as dammit like replacements if we are to improve our results. Who was the fair-heidit guy who joined us from Leicester? He won a couple of international caps. If that sort of guy was available he'd be okay, but for all the strength we've had over the years in the back row, we are not going to continue that way for too much longer
Believe it or not both Currie and Muncaster are now 22. If they aren’t ready for a full season of pro rugby at this point we are doing something very wrong.
Edit: you said Currie and McConnell. McConnell is indeed 19.
I was talking about Matt Currie's younger brother Tom (backrow), I think he's ages with McConnell
Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread
Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2024 6:19 pm
by Yr Alban
Has Fin Smith officially rejected us? Disappointing if so, but sadly he probably does have a chance with England due to Farrell’s injury.
Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread
Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2024 6:31 pm
by SaintK
Yr Alban wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2024 6:19 pm
Has Fin Smith officially rejected us? Disappointing if so, but sadly he probably does have a chance with England due to Farrell’s injury.
Think you mean Ford’s injury as Farrell has stood down.
Fin Smith will almost definitely be included in the England training squad. I reckon he will play fro England A against Portugal next month
Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread
Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2024 6:48 pm
by KingBlairhorn
Tichtheid wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2024 4:59 pm
KingBlairhorn wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2024 4:55 pm
Tichtheid wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2024 3:28 pm
It's not that many games per season, injuries can hit at any time. The likes of Currie and McConnell won't be ready for full seasons of pro rugby quite yet, they're both around 19/20. I'm sure Muncaster can make the grade, but he kind of proves my point, he's played nine minutes this season and has been injured since the Connacht game. Jamie Ritchie made his debut away to Leinster at age 18, but we also had a Kiwi guy in the second row in that match who did house flittings for living, such were the extent of our injuries. Mish is 32, he's not going to be around forever.
Glasgow have currently got three back rows injured with M. Fagerson only just back this week.
We need to have a good stock of like for as near as dammit like replacements if we are to improve our results. Who was the fair-heidit guy who joined us from Leicester? He won a couple of international caps. If that sort of guy was available he'd be okay, but for all the strength we've had over the years in the back row, we are not going to continue that way for too much longer
Believe it or not both Currie and Muncaster are now 22. If they aren’t ready for a full season of pro rugby at this point we are doing something very wrong.
Edit: you said Currie and McConnell. McConnell is indeed 19.
I was talking about Matt Currie's younger brother Tom (backrow), I think he's ages with McConnell
always nice when your (I.e mine) reply is wrong on literally every point!
Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread
Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2024 7:08 pm
by Biffer
Jock42 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2024 10:29 am
Dodson stepping down in the summer.
All the guys at The Offside Line must be standing in a circle wanking really hard.
Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread
Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2024 7:09 pm
by Tichtheid
KingBlairhorn wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2024 6:48 pm
Tichtheid wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2024 4:59 pm
KingBlairhorn wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2024 4:55 pm
Believe it or not both Currie and Muncaster are now 22. If they aren’t ready for a full season of pro rugby at this point we are doing something very wrong.
Edit: you said Currie and McConnell. McConnell is indeed 19.
I was talking about Matt Currie's younger brother Tom (backrow), I think he's ages with McConnell
always nice when your (I.e mine) reply is wrong on literally every point!
It's easily done when there are brothers and the academy section isn't exactly fully shown on the Edinburgh website
Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread
Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2024 10:03 pm
by Tichtheid
A good headache to have for Toonie at the moment then.
If we are looking at our centres for the 6N, we are probably picking four from Tuipulotu, Redpath, Hutchinson, Jones, Harris, McDowall. I'd like to see Matt Currie in the wider trading squad to continue his development, but the first six are in genuine contention.
Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread
Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2024 10:47 pm
by Yr Alban
SaintK wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2024 6:31 pm
Yr Alban wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2024 6:19 pm
Has Fin Smith officially rejected us? Disappointing if so, but sadly he probably does have a chance with England due to Farrell’s injury.
Think you mean Ford’s injury as Farrell has stood down.
Fin Smith will almost definitely be included in the England training squad. I reckon he will play fro England A against Portugal next month
Maybe I do? I did think Farrell was injured.
Got to admit that I am disappointed that a guy called
Finlay, whose grandfather played for Scotland, is set on throwing his lot in with England. But people feel how they feel, and that’s clearly how he feels. Fair play.
always nice when your (I.e mine) reply is wrong on literally every point!