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Hal Jordan wrote: ↑Tue Nov 03, 2020 4:45 pm Biden and Harris are of the Left, are they? I suppose they that makes me a full on Communist.

Which is actually about 4.5 times as worse as being a Nazi.

DAC Clarifies wrote: ↑Tue Nov 03, 2020 4:19 pm Silly is being on the same side as people who've tried to burn cities down these last couple of months.

I'd still like to think people could get behind the police and that the police might improve.

Rhubarb & Custard wrote: ↑Tue Nov 03, 2020 6:05 pm

DAC Clarifies wrote: ↑Tue Nov 03, 2020 4:19 pm Silly is being on the same side as people who've tried to burn cities down these last couple of months.

I'd still like to think people could get behind the police and that the police might improve.

Yes, I too recommend larger caliber side arms for the police.

Trump is out to 3.2. His voting core will be coming home from work soon and then going out to vote, a couple more ticks and that's a tradeable position to take for me.

I hope the Feds catch whoever did this & put them in prison for about 200 years.

It might stop arseholes in the future.

ABC News has confirmed robocalls have been going out to voters in the battleground state of Michigan today — specifically targeting the city of Flint, Michigan, where the majority of residents are Black.

Robocalls "purposefully spreading misinformation" have been going out to residents in Flint, Michigan, today, according to the statements from Michigan Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson and Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel.

The robocalls are telling voters to vote tomorrow -- instead of today -- due to long lines, according to the tweet from Nessel, in which she called the effort "an attempt to suppress the vote."

"Obviously this is FALSE and an effort to suppress the vote," Nessel said in her tweet. "No long lines and today is the last day to vote. Don’t believe the lies! Have your voice heard! RT PLS."

sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Tue Nov 03, 2020 2:14 am

Ted. wrote: ↑Tue Nov 03, 2020 1:19 am

Ovals wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 11:11 pm

However, I don't think you'll see Biden encouraging such behaviour in the way that Trump does.

Yep. It's very unlikely. I also think the response of the respective (potential) presidents would be quite different and therefore the authorities response to the protests. Unfortunately, though I hope I am wrong on all these points and that there is no violence, I also think that Trump supporters are much more likely to resort to gun violence.

Perhaps it's simply,not being reported, but I've yet to see anything fromDem supporters that comes close to the Trump fanatics as far as instigating or threatening violence goes whether it be the attempt on Michigan's governor or the *ahem* escort given to Biden's campaign bus the other day. Those are just the headlines, there's all sorts of micro stuff going on. Places like r/PublicFreakout have stuff like Trumpers lining the streets just far away enough from polling places to not be called on voter intimidation including one particularly deranged instance of a man screaming at people that he had their license plate number and they were going to vote Trump whether they liked it or not.

It's best not to prejudge these things, but there certainly is a strong suggestion that the underhand tactics are primarily coming from one camp rather than the other.

What still concerns me is the relative difficulty in casting a vote in the US, the relative lack of polling stations as evidenced by the ubiquitous cues. Added to that, the fact that people think they can, and do, get away with any form of electioneering, let alone intimidatory behaviour, within a bulls roar of a polling place on election day is mad. Other countries figured this basic stuff out long ago, so why is the US stuck in a time warp, hell bent of protecting privileges at the expense of others rights? Is it that they have those two things arse about face, privileges and rights, that is?

DAC Clarifies wrote: ↑Tue Nov 03, 2020 4:47 pm

Hal Jordan wrote: ↑Tue Nov 03, 2020 4:45 pm Biden and Harris are of the Left, are they? I suppose they that makes me a full on Communist.

Which is actually about 4.5 times as worse as being a Nazi.

We'll have to rely your advice on that, DAC.

President Donald Trump on Tuesday offered a bitter assessment of his tenure in the White House, saying the experience has been “mean” and marked by “horrible people”

Somehow I don't think this was an epiphany on the [part of Mr Trump.

NC almost guaranteeing it will be subject to lawsuits having had to delay the opening of polling today and therefore delaying the closing

So for me; if Biden is able to get 300 Electoral Votes in the basket; that makes any Legal challenge fundamentally impossible.

The court might be flawed, but they aren't going to strap on suicide vests for some douche bag, pretend Republican

its not just about winning presidency, the democrats need to keep the senate cause if they lose both the presidency and that, America will be well and truly screwed.

http://rwc19.rf.gd/cnn.html Biden Supporters
http://rwc19.rf.gd/foxnews.html DAC Clarifies :P

fishfoodie wrote: ↑Tue Nov 03, 2020 11:45 pm So for me; if Biden is able to get 300 Electoral Votes in the basket; that makes any Legal challenge fundamentally impossible.

The court might be flawed, but they aren't going to strap on suicide vests for some douche bag, pretend Republican

There is a reason they fast-tracked Coney-Barrett to SCOTUS as they knew what would happen on election day, think of her now as Plan B cause the republicans now control 6 out of the 9 SCOTUS.

Washington Post has called Indiana (11 EC votes) for Trump.

Gumboot wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 12:04 am Washington Post has called Indiana (11 EC votes) for Trump.

I could have called that before voting opened.

Trump takes Kentucky, and is off to an 8-3 college vote lead

EDIT: Florida leaning red and if he takes Florida its over.

CNN called it 11 votes for trump, he needs 259 more to win

Early Florida looks strong for Biden, but still early days. The most striking thing is the number of votes - turnout is way up on 2016

JPNZ wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 12:07 am Trump takes Kentucky, and is off to an 8-3 college vote lead

EDIT: Florida leaning red and if he takes Florida its over.

Trump effectively has to take Florida - Biden doesn't. And the early indicators are that Biden is outperforming Clinton, and it won't take a lot

Saint wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 12:11 am

JPNZ wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 12:07 am Trump takes Kentucky, and is off to an 8-3 college vote lead

EDIT: Florida leaning red and if he takes Florida its over.

Trump effectively has to take Florida - Biden doesn't. And the early indicators are that Biden is outperforming Clinton, and it won't take a lot

He has to keep almost all of what he took off Clinton; & that's the fundamental problem for him.

There are a bunch of states that he won by ~1-2%; & these have all swung against him; if we are to believe the polls.

Let's never forget; he lost the popular vote before.

Trump wins Kentucky.

Biden wins Vermont.

Damn .... with 63% reporting; Biden is +2% in Florida

yes 11-3 to the incumbent

For no other reason than it looked reasonably simple, I'm following the Politico results

https://www.politico.com/
https://www.politico.com/2020-election/results/

stemoc wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 12:35 am yes 11-3 to the incumbent

Always remember that the the first to report results, are those that weren't ever in doubt !

Ted. wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 12:39 am For no other reason than it looked reasonably simple, I'm following the Politico results

https://www.politico.com/
https://www.politico.com/2020-election/results/

not a good idea to follow a site going a bit to fast..

Politico now claiming 85 to biden,55 to trump, wayyyyyyy to early to accept those numbers

stemoc wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 1:03 am Politico now claiming 85 to biden,55 to trump, wayyyyyyy to early to accept those numbers

PBS have the same numbers at the moment.

Kiwias wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 1:06 am

stemoc wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 1:03 am Politico now claiming 85 to biden,55 to trump, wayyyyyyy to early to accept those numbers

PBS have the same numbers at the moment.

If we start to see States that he took in 2016 , by ~5%, start to flip ... that ought to be game over.

Similarly; if we start to see GOP Senators getting turfed out; that should we reflect what we can expect in the big race

Strangely, I think that there's a very real chance that Biden is going to lose Florida but pick up Georgia.

Ohio and Pennnsylvania are blue right now, those were red last time, if biden wins that, that would be good news even if he loses florida

If Biden does lose , he's going to lose with an enormous popular vote advantage. Like 10 to 15 million

Ohio and North Carolina would leave Trump with very few options. Almost none

Looks like Penn State will turn Blue this time around they voted Trump last time, usually the colour of Penn State determines the overall winner

stemoc wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 1:03 am Politico now claiming 85 to biden,55 to trump, wayyyyyyy to early to accept those numbers

FFS, cool your jets child. It's a live update, so expect constant changes.

Ted. wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 2:03 am

stemoc wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 1:03 am Politico now claiming 85 to biden,55 to trump, wayyyyyyy to early to accept those numbers

FFS, cool your jets child. It's a live update, so expect constant changes.

122 to Biden, 94 to trump now but their graphic is all wrong, the yhave viginnia marked as blue even though trump is winning by 20% i'll follow cnn for now

131/92 to biden according to NYT

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/202 ... ident.html

The bookies have made their pick

Vegas odds yesterday Biden $1.55 - Trump $2.45

Latest vegas odds = Biden $4.00 - Trump = $1.22

Trump will take Florida, Texas and Georgia, is leading in swing states Wis, Mich, Ohio & Pen

Trump is also leading the popular vote by 1.5 million or so

Trump up in Ohio. Isn't that a bell weather state that is always won by the overall winner?

yep 83ECXV's coming trumps way, he just won missouri too... so long Biden, even with 85 ECV's from the blue states in teh west, its not enough.

JPNZ wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 3:18 am The bookies have made their pick

Vegas odds yesterday Biden $1.55 - Trump $2.45

Latest vegas odds = Biden $4.00 - Trump = $1.22

Trump will take Florida, Texas and Georgia, is leading in swing states Wis, Mich, Ohio & Pen

Trump is also leading the popular vote by 1.5 million or so

Not being a gambling man - out of curiosity what do bookies base their odds on when it comes to betting on elections? Is it just recent polling because it's not like a sporting event where you can measure both sides strengths and weaknesses relative to one another and look at recent form etc.

US presidential elections are a two horse race that seems like a coin toss so how come the odds don't reflect that?