I wonder if they are holding off the rebuilding until after 2023 World Cup and stick with the players they already have until then.
Re: Springbokke going forward
Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2021 11:57 am
by Chilli
assfly wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 9:21 am
Another opportunity missed to blood new players, but then again it won't matter if we keep selecting the same starting XV over and over again.
Contrats to Salmaan Moerat, he's earned it. Would have preferred to have seen Roos ahead of Wiese.
Agreed.
Re: Springbokke going forward
Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2021 11:58 am
by Chilli
ia801310 wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 11:35 am
Disappointed not to see the following
Evan Roos
Elrigh Louw
Tyrone Green
Is Nico Janse Van Rensburg dropped or injured?
I wonder if they are holding off the rebuilding until after 2023 World Cup and stick with the players they already have until then.
Has Elrigh Louw impressed on the European tour? He was pretty damn good in SA.
Ros is streets ahead of him, imho.
Re: Springbokke going forward
Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2021 12:06 pm
by FalseBayFC
I see Roos as a classic no.8. Louw more of a blindside flanker/8 option.
ia801310 wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 11:35 am
Disappointed not to see the following
Evan Roos
Elrigh Louw
Tyrone Green
Is Nico Janse Van Rensburg dropped or injured?
I wonder if they are holding off the rebuilding until after 2023 World Cup and stick with the players they already have until then.
Has Elrigh Louw impressed on the European tour? He was pretty damn good in SA.
Ros is streets ahead of him, imho.
In fact I think they are 2 parts of the future Bok trio. To be joined by future captain Phendulani Buthelezi of the Sharks.
Re: Springbokke going forward
Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2021 12:17 pm
by OomStruisbaai
The biggest disappointment is that Willie is still there. Gelant is miles ahead.
Re: Springbokke going forward
Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2021 4:09 pm
by boere wors
So it is going to be the same rabble that we saw the last months again. Pretty dissapointing to be honest.
Re: Springbokke going forward
Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2021 4:14 pm
by boere wors
ia801310 wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 11:35 am
Disappointed not to see the following
Evan Roos
Elrigh Louw
Tyrone Green
Is Nico Janse Van Rensburg dropped or injured?
I wonder if they are holding off the rebuilding until after 2023 World Cup and stick with the players they already have until then.
Exactly those 3 plus esterhuizen. NJvR is injured since a couple of weeks now unfortunately.
One thing is for sure, we won't win in 2023 with guys like malherbe, Trevor, Duane, Kolisi, Frans, Willie... The time to ring the changes and start building is now. Opportunity missed.
Re: Springbokke going forward
Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2021 4:38 pm
by sorCrer
OomStruisbaai wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 12:17 pm
The biggest disappointment is that Willie is still there. Gelant is miles ahead.
ia801310 wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 11:35 am
Disappointed not to see the following
Evan Roos
Elrigh Louw
Tyrone Green
Is Nico Janse Van Rensburg dropped or injured?
I wonder if they are holding off the rebuilding until after 2023 World Cup and stick with the players they already have until then.
Exactly those 3 plus esterhuizen. NJvR is injured since a couple of weeks now unfortunately.
One thing is for sure, we won't win in 2023 with guys like malherbe, Trevor, Duane, Kolisi, Frans, Willie... The time to ring the changes and start building is now. Opportunity missed.
As much as I rate Roos and Louw, I think their development may be better served by playing in the URC right now. A while back I was calling for their inclusion in the Bok squad but after watching the URC I think this is where they belong right now. They're gaining valuable experience.
If we need anyone in the backrow then it should have been the Dup brothers. I think they've been fucked around a bit by the coaches. They're next off the rank imo.
Ditto Tyrone Green. If we needed a back 3 replacement then Gelant is the guy for now though.
I take it Willemse and Pollard also cover centre because there are only 3 in the squad. Would have loved to see Andre Ysterhuizen in the mix too. He has evolved into a very accomplished no.12 and playing abroad has been great for him.
ia801310 wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 11:35 am
Disappointed not to see the following
Evan Roos
Elrigh Louw
Tyrone Green
Is Nico Janse Van Rensburg dropped or injured?
I wonder if they are holding off the rebuilding until after 2023 World Cup and stick with the players they already have until then.
Exactly those 3 plus esterhuizen. NJvR is injured since a couple of weeks now unfortunately.
One thing is for sure, we won't win in 2023 with guys like malherbe, Trevor, Duane, Kolisi, Frans, Willie... The time to ring the changes and start building is now. Opportunity missed.
As much as I rate Roos and Louw, I think their development may be better served by playing in the URC right now. A while back I was calling for their inclusion in the Bok squad but after watching the URC I think this is where they belong right now. They're gaining valuable experience.
If we need anyone in the backrow then it should have been the Dup brothers. I think they've been fucked around a bit by the coaches. They're next off the rank imo.
Ditto Tyrone Green. If we needed a back 3 replacement then Gelant is the guy for now though.
I take it Willemse and Pollard also cover centre because there are only 3 in the squad. Would have loved to see Andre Ysterhuizen in the mix too. He has evolved into a very accomplished no.12 and playing abroad has been great for him.
Yeah you are probably right, they need the game time. I just want to see new faces in the boks. The twins were proper fucked with and if I was them, I would head home to my club and play some rugby for a difference
Re: Springbokke going forward
Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 6:44 am
by FalseBayFC
J P du Preez. Never really noticed this guy when he played in SA. Has a decent highlights package. A 2.09 m lock. Haven't seen enough of him to see what his work rate is like though. Playing for Sale Sharks and is 26 years old.
Re: Springbokke going forward
Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 9:25 am
by Chilli
FalseBayFC wrote: Thu Oct 21, 2021 6:44 am
J P du Preez. Never really noticed this guy when he played in SA. Has a decent highlights package. A 2.09 m lock. Haven't seen enough of him to see what his work rate is like though. Playing for Sale Sharks and is 26 years old.
Can I post the best of Jasper Wiese? Or maybe Wazza's schoolboy highlights?
FalseBayFC wrote: Thu Oct 21, 2021 6:44 am
J P du Preez. Never really noticed this guy when he played in SA. Has a decent highlights package. A 2.09 m lock. Haven't seen enough of him to see what his work rate is like though. Playing for Sale Sharks and is 26 years old.
Can I post the best of Jasper Wiese? Or maybe Wazza's schoolboy highlights?
I see Sale Sharks are not renewing his contract and he's probably moving to Glasgow Warriors. So he can't be that good.
FalseBayFC wrote: Thu Oct 21, 2021 6:44 am
J P du Preez. Never really noticed this guy when he played in SA. Has a decent highlights package. A 2.09 m lock. Haven't seen enough of him to see what his work rate is like though. Playing for Sale Sharks and is 26 years old.
Can I post the best of Jasper Wiese? Or maybe Wazza's schoolboy highlights?
I see Sale Sharks are not renewing his contract and he's probably moving to Glasgow Warriors. So he can't be that good.
Re: Springbokke going forward
Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 6:56 am
by FalseBayFC
Just a fun 'hype" video for a rugby-less weekend. Nyakane and Bongi have really impressed me so far this year. I always thought Nyakane was a fat overhyped unfit player. He's really good for 40 minutes. I think he can get even better with proper conditioning.
Re: Springbokke going forward
Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 7:12 am
by assfly
FalseBayFC wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 6:56 am
Just a fun 'hype" video for a rugby-less weekend. Nyakane and Bongi have really impressed me so far this year. I always thought Nyakane was a fat overhyped unfit player. He's really good for 40 minutes. I think he can get even better with proper conditioning.
I hadn't seen those tries Ox scored when he played for the Cheetahs.
I really rate him. Such a good all-round game. Would love to see him own that 1 jersey going forward for the Boks.
Re: Springbokke going forward
Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 7:37 am
by FalseBayFC
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I hadn't seen those tries Ox scored when he played for the Cheetahs.
I really rate him. Such a good all-round game. Would love to see him own that 1 jersey going forward for the Boks.
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Yes. There are two types of front-rankers. Most are slooooooow lumps. A few of them have pretty impressive accelaration and Nche is one of them. He has a great all round game.
Re: Springbokke going forward
Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 10:33 am
by OomStruisbaai
Moerats van die Paarl
IOL
Salmaan Moerat adds to his family’s South African rugby legacy
Cape Town - When Springbok coach Jacques Nienaber named his 32-man squad for the End of Year Tour, Salmaan Moerat was the only newcomer to the group, and that alone made his name noticeable. But it's for an entirely different reason that his inclusion is special.
Moerat will grace the shores of the United Kingdom as a Springbok when the world champions take on Scotland, Wales and England as two of his uncles did exactly 50 years ago.
It has been five decades since Ikraam and Marwaan Moerat were part of the South African Rugby Football Federation (Proteas) side that embarked on a tour to the UK in 1971 where they played six matches. The following year, when the England Test team toured South Africa, both brothers withdrew from the team, citing political reasons.
The 23-year-old Stormers captain has been on the Bok radar for some time and now joins a pack of second-row behemoths including Eben Etzebeth, Lood de Jager, Franco Mostert, and Marvin Orie for the last international assignment of the season.
Moerat, a former SA Schools and Junior Bok skipper, carries with him a family legacy deeply rooted in South African rugby that spans decades.
Salmaan Moerat gets first Springbok call-up for outgoing UK tour
He will be the 12th member of the family called up to represent the national side. Ten of them went on to receive their Springbok blazers post unification, with one having passed on already at the time.
Hailing from Paarl and Vineyards Rugby Club, the Moerats' achievements started in the 1940s when two cousins, Naeem and Abbas Moerat, were selected for the Western Province League side before going on to represent the national side. In the decades that followed, sons, cousins and nephews continued the trend, with Yusuf Moerat achieving national honours in the 1950s, while Achmat 'Broertjie' Abrahams was selected for the Proteas team of 1964 (who, ironically, played a game at the Green Point Track, the famous grounds of the now Cape Town Stadium and home of the Stormers). Abrahams was followed by another cousin Ebrahim Moerat, who also represented the Proteas side.
During the 1980s, Moerat's father Nazeem represented the South African Rugby Union (SARU) side. As a flank he played for both Western Province and Boland during his career. Nazeem, regarded as one of the best by many, stood at just under two meters tall and at 19 he gained his first provincial colours for WP. He represented South Africa in 1984 and 1985. Other family members who represented South Africa in the 80s include fullback Ghalieb Hendricks, who also captained the WP side and hooker Hashiem Hendricks. They were part of the same Saru team.
Another member of the family who went on to achieve the highest levels and received his Springbok colours is Nazeem Toefy, whose mother is also a Moerat. Nazeem and his brother Aslam Toefy were stalwarts of the WP team that was based at Green Point track. In the early 2000s , Ebrahim ‘Baba' Moerat, also a product of Paarl Boys High, played in Jake White's World Rugby Under-20 Championship side.
With Moerat being called up to the senior Springbok team, he becomes the first member of his family, in the professional era, to reach this level, carrying on the name and pedigree of arguably the most successful rugby family in South Africa.
Re: Springbokke going forward
Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 11:52 am
by assfly
Great story
Re: Springbokke going forward
Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 7:21 pm
by Sandstorm
assfly wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 11:52 am
Great story
+1
Re: Springbokke going forward
Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2021 5:00 am
by FalseBayFC
Cobus Reinach looking sharp yesterday for Montpellier. Scored 2 tries including this long range cracker.
Re: Springbokke going forward
Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2021 9:22 am
by boere wors
FalseBayFC wrote: Sun Oct 24, 2021 5:00 am
Cobus Reinach looking sharp yesterday for Montpellier. Scored 2 tries including this long range cracker.
Of course he is sharp, being back from a nice refreshing holiday in sunny Australia the last month.
Re: Springbokke going forward
Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2021 4:32 pm
by FalseBayFC
Andre the Giant Ysterhuizen showing why he should be the next Bok 12.
Re: Springbokke going forward
Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2021 5:06 pm
by Sandstorm
FalseBayFC wrote: Sun Oct 24, 2021 4:32 pm
Andre the Giant Ysterhuizen showing why he should be the next Bok 12.
Really???? Smashed through a tiny #9 and then an unopposed jog-in from 4 yards?
FalseBayFC wrote: Sun Oct 24, 2021 4:32 pm
Andre the Giant Ysterhuizen showing why he should be the next Bok 12.
Really???? Smashed through a tiny #9 and then an unopposed jog-in from 4 yards?
Giant
I have begun my twitter campaign to have Andre the Giant named as DDA's successor. Name a better candidate for the 12 jersey. In both tries he ran great supporting lines.
Re: Springbokke going forward
Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2021 5:36 am
by assfly
AE is in brutal form at the moment. Seems to have sorted out his disciplinary too.
Big games from Wiese and Eskom for Leicester too. Even Hando Liebenberg is looking good too.
FalseBayFC wrote: Sun Oct 31, 2021 11:04 am
Sbu Nkosi doesn't have enough blank pages in his passport to get a UK visa.
4-6 month waiting list for replacement passports too. His URC season is under threat.
Uhm, no.
Passport issued in 3 working days.
Re: Springbokke going forward
Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2021 4:05 am
by Chilli
FalseBayFC wrote: Sun Oct 31, 2021 5:59 pm
Been trying to get an ID for my lightie. Queues at the Wynberg Home Affairs start at 3AM.
Do what I did and pay a service to que for him. He then breezes in at 07h30, takes the services place right at the front of the que and Bob's your uncle.
Re: Springbokke going forward
Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2021 6:33 am
by OomStruisbaai
FalseBayFC wrote: Sun Oct 31, 2021 5:59 pm
Been trying to get an ID for my lightie. Queues at the Wynberg Home Affairs start at 3AM.
Can't you get it at the bank nowadays?
I got country benefit, no queues at Bredasdorp license or Home Affairs
