NPR

Biffer wrote: ↑Fri May 10, 2024 7:33 am

Tichtheid wrote: ↑Thu May 09, 2024 7:15 pm

robmatic wrote: ↑Thu May 09, 2024 7:08 pm

Apparently it's only the 4th time that Lang and Bennett have started together this season, which I think might have contributed to our less than sparkling back play. To me, they are our best combination in the centres. For example, I like Currie a lot but he's been playing at 12 when he is probably more suited to 13 (at least at the moment).

Lang at his best is very good, but he's made of glass. I've been watching Mark Bennett very closely recently and he's proved very wrong - I was ready to write him off.

Having said that, I'm quite excited about the prospect of Mosese reaching the standards Sione had thrown down and Curripulotu being our centres for several years to come (apologies for repeating the joke, but Currie looks very much the part, if Mosese can emulate his brother that will be a huge fillip for this team)

Bennett has now played a lot more for Edinburgh than he did for Glasgow. Excellent player.

Tichtheid wrote: ↑Thu May 09, 2024 11:07 am Edinburgh Rugby team to face Zebre Parma at Hive Stadium in the BKT United Rugby Championship
Friday 10 May (kick-off 7.35pm) – live on Premier Sports

15. Wes Goosen (29)
14. Matt Currie (36)
13. Mark Bennett (105)
12. James Lang (54)
11. Duhan van der Merwe (89)
10. Ben Healy (20)
9. Ali Price (14)

1. Pierre Schoeman (112)
2. Ewan Ashman (17)
3. WP Nel (204)
4. Sam Skinner (22)
5. Grant Gilchrist (202) CAPTAIN
6. Jamie Ritchie (111)
7. Hamish Watson (156)
8. Viliame Mata (135)

Replacements
16. Dave Cherry (90)
17. Boan Venter (63)
18. Javan Sebastian (14)
19. Marshall Sykes (59)
20. Luke Crosbie (97)
21. Ben Vellacott (58)
22. Cammy Scott (9)
23. Chris Dean (150)

Unavailable: Emiliano Boffelli (back), Connor Boyle (back), Tom Dodd (bicep), Darcy Graham (groin), Jake Henry (hamstring), Robin Hislop (knee), Harry Paterson (quad), D’Arcy Rae (ankle), Scott Steele (hip), Nathan Sweeney (groin), Glen Young (ankle).

Wylie Coyote wrote: ↑Fri May 10, 2024 10:36 am

Boffelli plays one match and is injured again? Also, I thought Harry Paterson was going to be back a few weeks ago, is he injured again? With Henry out too lots of players missing golden opportunities to stake a claim for a back three shirt towards the businnes end of the season.

Tichtheid wrote: ↑Fri May 10, 2024 10:40 am

Wylie Coyote wrote: ↑Fri May 10, 2024 10:36 am

Boffelli plays one match and is injured again? Also, I thought Harry Paterson was going to be back a few weeks ago, is he injured again? With Henry out too lots of players missing golden opportunities to stake a claim for a back three shirt towards the businnes end of the season.

Paterson's is a new injury, it was his foot before, he was playing the Super 6 last week I think. Boff had a recurrence of his back spasm, or so I read, but yeah, we could really have done with everyone being fit for the run in.

robmatic wrote: ↑Fri May 10, 2024 10:55 am

Tichtheid wrote: ↑Fri May 10, 2024 10:40 am

Wylie Coyote wrote: ↑Fri May 10, 2024 10:36 am

Boffelli plays one match and is injured again? Also, I thought Harry Paterson was going to be back a few weeks ago, is he injured again? With Henry out too lots of players missing golden opportunities to stake a claim for a back three shirt towards the businnes end of the season.

Paterson's is a new injury, it was his foot before, he was playing the Super 6 last week I think. Boff had a recurrence of his back spasm, or so I read, but yeah, we could really have done with everyone being fit for the run in.

I think there might be an element of not risking them against Zebre so they are fit for Munster and Benetton.

Wylie Coyote wrote: ↑Fri May 10, 2024 10:36 am

Tichtheid wrote: ↑Thu May 09, 2024 11:07 am Edinburgh Rugby team to face Zebre Parma at Hive Stadium in the BKT United Rugby Championship
Friday 10 May (kick-off 7.35pm) – live on Premier Sports
...
Unavailable: Emiliano Boffelli (back), Connor Boyle (back), Tom Dodd (bicep), Darcy Graham (groin), Jake Henry (hamstring), Robin Hislop (knee), Harry Paterson (quad), D’Arcy Rae (ankle), Scott Steele (hip), Nathan Sweeney (groin), Glen Young (ankle).

Boffelli plays one match and is injured again? Also, I thought Harry Paterson was going to be back a few weeks ago, is he injured again? With Henry out too lots of players missing golden opportunities to stake a claim for a back three shirt towards the businnes end of the season.

KingBlairhorn wrote: ↑Fri May 10, 2024 8:07 pm BP secured for Edinburgh (presuming they don’t fuck it up and lose) but they’ve been drawn into a shit fest by Zebre. A bit more structure and a little more smarts and they’d have skooshed this.

Yr Alban wrote: ↑Fri May 10, 2024 8:35 pm Two late tries actually put some polish on this in the end. Ah well, the expected result. Need to keep pushing for top 8.

dpedin wrote: ↑Fri May 10, 2024 11:00 am

robmatic wrote: ↑Fri May 10, 2024 10:55 am

Tichtheid wrote: ↑Fri May 10, 2024 10:40 am


Paterson's is a new injury, it was his foot before, he was playing the Super 6 last week I think. Boff had a recurrence of his back spasm, or so I read, but yeah, we could really have done with everyone being fit for the run in.

I think there might be an element of not risking them against Zebre so they are fit for Munster and Benetton.

Agreed - that team should be good enough to get a BP win against Zebra at home. Anyone carrying a niggle or recovering doesn't have to be risked tonight. I suspect we might make heavy weather of it but will grind the Italians down in last 20mins. Hopefully we won't sustain any more injuries!

dpedin wrote: ↑Sat May 11, 2024 9:22 am

dpedin wrote: ↑Fri May 10, 2024 11:00 am

robmatic wrote: ↑Fri May 10, 2024 10:55 am

I think there might be an element of not risking them against Zebre so they are fit for Munster and Benetton.

Agreed - that team should be good enough to get a BP win against Zebra at home. Anyone carrying a niggle or recovering doesn't have to be risked tonight. I suspect we might make heavy weather of it but will grind the Italians down in last 20mins. Hopefully we won't sustain any more injuries!

5 points, couple of good tries in last 20mins and no serious injuries is a good outcome if not a good display!

Biffer wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 10:47 am Utter shit from Edinburgh. Better side for the first twenty or so minutes with ball in hand, so we decided to kick it away from that point on. Including when they were on a yellow card, and we decided to take one phase and then box kick from the halfway line. All the old shite about us being a holding pen for Scotland internationals is back again, saw it happening while Blair was in charge. No leadership, the players were barely talking to each other and nobody, as ever, trying to get the guys going at the end when we're trying to win. And why the fuck would you go for the drop after a couple of Le of phases rather than trucking it up for ten or fifteen, when they're a man down and that man is a lock? For fucks sake, get half a yard every phase for ten or fifteen so he's not trying to drop it from forty metres out.

Fucking shambolic, and I'm pretty sure that loss will be the difference between champions cup and challenge cup next season.

Biffer wrote: ↑Sat May 11, 2024 9:24 am

dpedin wrote: ↑Sat May 11, 2024 9:22 am

dpedin wrote: ↑Fri May 10, 2024 11:00 am

Agreed - that team should be good enough to get a BP win against Zebra at home. Anyone carrying a niggle or recovering doesn't have to be risked tonight. I suspect we might make heavy weather of it but will grind the Italians down in last 20mins. Hopefully we won't sustain any more injuries!

5 points, couple of good tries in last 20mins and no serious injuries is a good outcome if not a good display!

Yeah, exactly. We want our teams to win, go on about them being more hard nosed and grinding out results, then when they do that, people get sniffy about not playing pretty rugby.

Yr Alban wrote: ↑Sat May 11, 2024 11:11 am

Biffer wrote: ↑Sat May 11, 2024 9:24 am

dpedin wrote: ↑Sat May 11, 2024 9:22 am

5 points, couple of good tries in last 20mins and no serious injuries is a good outcome if not a good display!

Yeah, exactly. We want our teams to win, go on about them being more hard nosed and grinding out results, then when they do that, people get sniffy about not playing pretty rugby.

This is fair comment. However, Embra had 10 wins (11 now) and were at home v the bottom side, who had 1 win. Yes, they put a gloss on it at the end, but the game was too close for too long. There’s no way any of the top four sides would have been only 5 up going into the late game.

Yr Alban wrote: ↑Sat May 11, 2024 11:11 am

Biffer wrote: ↑Sat May 11, 2024 9:24 am

dpedin wrote: ↑Sat May 11, 2024 9:22 am

5 points, couple of good tries in last 20mins and no serious injuries is a good outcome if not a good display!

Yeah, exactly. We want our teams to win, go on about them being more hard nosed and grinding out results, then when they do that, people get sniffy about not playing pretty rugby.

This is fair comment. However, Embra had 10 wins (11 now) and were at home v the bottom side, who had 1 win. Yes, they put a gloss on it at the end, but the game was too close for too long. There’s no way any of the top four sides would have been only 5 up going into the late game.

Yr Alban wrote: ↑Sat May 11, 2024 2:04 pm Some comeback from Glasgow, I see. Gave themselves a bit too much to do for a win, but two BPs from the Bulls away is decent.

charltom wrote: ↑Sun May 12, 2024 8:01 am Hoping one of you knows how this should work...

My Viaplay subscription ends in a week. The URC matches are now on Premier Sports.

Viaplay are offering me a good deal (£59 for the year) to continue the subscription. But am I right in thinking that won't give me Premier Sports access?

Do I need to subscribe to Premier on its own now to keep watching?

The thing that confuses me slightly is that I can still see the URC logo on the Viaplay app. But I still had to sign into Premier yesterday to watch Bulls-Glasgow.

Yours,

Old and Confused

GrahamWa wrote: ↑Sun May 12, 2024 10:36 am

charltom wrote: ↑Sun May 12, 2024 8:01 am Hoping one of you knows how this should work...

My Viaplay subscription ends in a week. The URC matches are now on Premier Sports.

Viaplay are offering me a good deal (£59 for the year) to continue the subscription. But am I right in thinking that won't give me Premier Sports access?

Do I need to subscribe to Premier on its own now to keep watching?

The thing that confuses me slightly is that I can still see the URC logo on the Viaplay app. But I still had to sign into Premier yesterday to watch Bulls-Glasgow.

Yours,

Old and Confused

replied on the other thread, but the answer is no.

Yr Alban wrote: ↑Sun May 12, 2024 11:54 am

GrahamWa wrote: ↑Sun May 12, 2024 10:36 am

charltom wrote: ↑Sun May 12, 2024 8:01 am Hoping one of you knows how this should work...

My Viaplay subscription ends in a week. The URC matches are now on Premier Sports.

Viaplay are offering me a good deal (£59 for the year) to continue the subscription. But am I right in thinking that won't give me Premier Sports access?

Do I need to subscribe to Premier on its own now to keep watching?

The thing that confuses me slightly is that I can still see the URC logo on the Viaplay app. But I still had to sign into Premier yesterday to watch Bulls-Glasgow.

Yours,

Old and Confused

replied on the other thread, but the answer is no.

Apologies. ‘No’ as in your Viaplay sub will give you Premier Sports access, or as it won’t?

My Viaplay sub has now expired. Would be happy to pay another £59, but probably not much more.

Yr Alban wrote: ↑Sun May 12, 2024 11:54 am

GrahamWa wrote: ↑Sun May 12, 2024 10:36 am

charltom wrote: ↑Sun May 12, 2024 8:01 am Hoping one of you knows how this should work...

My Viaplay subscription ends in a week. The URC matches are now on Premier Sports.

Viaplay are offering me a good deal (£59 for the year) to continue the subscription. But am I right in thinking that won't give me Premier Sports access?

Do I need to subscribe to Premier on its own now to keep watching?

The thing that confuses me slightly is that I can still see the URC logo on the Viaplay app. But I still had to sign into Premier yesterday to watch Bulls-Glasgow.

Yours,

Old and Confused

replied on the other thread, but the answer is no.

Apologies. ‘No’ as in your Viaplay sub will give you Premier Sports access, or as it won’t?

Yr Alban wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2024 10:53 pm Is the Munster game fully sold out? I was considering going, but if the website is to believed, there isn’t a single seat in the house.

Tichtheid wrote: ↑Tue May 14, 2024 9:21 am Just once I'd love to see Edinburgh step up and beat Munster, especially in a very important game. The backline looked all over the place against Zebre, absolutely no fluidity or cohesion, big Duane tries to batter through 14 players in any direction, Mark Bennett should be more accurate given all his experience, Lang is not up to this, even Goosen was making mistakes. Matt Currie is about the only bright spark in the outside backs. Yeah we're missing Graham and Boffelli, but it's not academy players who are there in their place.
I can't see us destroying the Munster scrum the way we did Zebre's and we were given an easy ride at the lineout, POM is not going to give us that. Munster will be coming fully loaded because they would go top of the table with a win and they will be looking for five points.

Just once I'd love Edinburgh to click and beat them, we'd be doing Glasgow a huge favour too.

robmatic wrote: ↑Tue May 14, 2024 10:21 am

Tichtheid wrote: ↑Tue May 14, 2024 9:21 am Just once I'd love to see Edinburgh step up and beat Munster, especially in a very important game. The backline looked all over the place against Zebre, absolutely no fluidity or cohesion, big Duane tries to batter through 14 players in any direction, Mark Bennett should be more accurate given all his experience, Lang is not up to this, even Goosen was making mistakes. Matt Currie is about the only bright spark in the outside backs. Yeah we're missing Graham and Boffelli, but it's not academy players who are there in their place.
I can't see us destroying the Munster scrum the way we did Zebre's and we were given an easy ride at the lineout, POM is not going to give us that. Munster will be coming fully loaded because they would go top of the table with a win and they will be looking for five points.

Just once I'd love Edinburgh to click and beat them, we'd be doing Glasgow a huge favour too.

They really need to pick something up because I would put Benetton favourites for the last game of the season.

Tichtheid wrote: ↑Tue May 14, 2024 11:09 am

robmatic wrote: ↑Tue May 14, 2024 10:21 am

Tichtheid wrote: ↑Tue May 14, 2024 9:21 am Just once I'd love to see Edinburgh step up and beat Munster, especially in a very important game. The backline looked all over the place against Zebre, absolutely no fluidity or cohesion, big Duane tries to batter through 14 players in any direction, Mark Bennett should be more accurate given all his experience, Lang is not up to this, even Goosen was making mistakes. Matt Currie is about the only bright spark in the outside backs. Yeah we're missing Graham and Boffelli, but it's not academy players who are there in their place.
I can't see us destroying the Munster scrum the way we did Zebre's and we were given an easy ride at the lineout, POM is not going to give us that. Munster will be coming fully loaded because they would go top of the table with a win and they will be looking for five points.

Just once I'd love Edinburgh to click and beat them, we'd be doing Glasgow a huge favour too.

They really need to pick something up because I would put Benetton favourites for the last game of the season.

I agree.

Last season we managed a long BP in half the games we lost, this season we've had 1 BP from 5 losses. Last year we got 8 try BPs, this year we've named 3. In terms of wins we are equal third in the league, only Glasgow and Leinster have won one more game each than us.
Mossy was correct at the weekend in that turning things around was the first part of the project and in getting the wins Everitt has done that part, but the poor discipline and lack of creativity in the backs is killing us.

Biffer wrote: ↑Tue May 14, 2024 11:21 am

Tichtheid wrote: ↑Tue May 14, 2024 11:09 am

robmatic wrote: ↑Tue May 14, 2024 10:21 am

They really need to pick something up because I would put Benetton favourites for the last game of the season.

I agree.

Last season we managed a long BP in half the games we lost, this season we've had 1 BP from 5 losses. Last year we got 8 try BPs, this year we've named 3. In terms of wins we are equal third in the league, only Glasgow and Leinster have won one more game each than us.
Mossy was correct at the weekend in that turning things around was the first part of the project and in getting the wins Everitt has done that part, but the poor discipline and lack of creativity in the backs is killing us.

To be a little bit fair, our main creative influence was taken away unexpectedly earlier in the season. If we had BK all season, it's reasonable to suggest another few tries would have come across the season, and some of those would have earned us that BP. But fundamentally, that lack of creativity is a real problem and I don't see where it's going to come from atm.

Tichtheid wrote: ↑Tue May 14, 2024 11:30 am

Biffer wrote: ↑Tue May 14, 2024 11:21 am

Tichtheid wrote: ↑Tue May 14, 2024 11:09 am



I agree.

Last season we managed a long BP in half the games we lost, this season we've had 1 BP from 5 losses. Last year we got 8 try BPs, this year we've named 3. In terms of wins we are equal third in the league, only Glasgow and Leinster have won one more game each than us.
Mossy was correct at the weekend in that turning things around was the first part of the project and in getting the wins Everitt has done that part, but the poor discipline and lack of creativity in the backs is killing us.

To be a little bit fair, our main creative influence was taken away unexpectedly earlier in the season. If we had BK all season, it's reasonable to suggest another few tries would have come across the season, and some of those would have earned us that BP. But fundamentally, that lack of creativity is a real problem and I don't see where it's going to come from atm.

I agree and disagree, Blair playing at ten made us very creative, it got Mark Bennett back into the Scotland squad, he's a very good fullback as we are seeing with Toulouse, but I don't think it's down to the players. Our hand skills earlier in the season were better than I think I'e ever seen at Edinburgh, but the lack of penetration in the midfield comes (or doesn't) from the training paddock, Glasgow aren't scoring multiple tries from the midfield but they are ripping the opposition apart from there, that's where they really pressurise the opposition.