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Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread
Posted: Sat May 18, 2024 8:44 pm
by Jock42
So very Scottish
Still, it's completely in their hands. Be nice if the Stormers do enough to stop the Lions getting all 5 points though.
Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread
Posted: Sat May 18, 2024 8:49 pm
by Biffer
Irish teams stitching things up between themselves? Inconceivable!
Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread
Posted: Sun May 19, 2024 12:44 am
by Biffer
Jock42 wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2024 8:44 pm
So very Scottish
Still, it's completely in their hands. Be nice if the Stormers do enough to stop the Lions getting all 5 points though.
The most Scottish thing will be what actually happens. We will manage to sneak eight place, and then the Sharks will win the Challenge Cup and take the champions cup spot off us.
Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread
Posted: Thu May 23, 2024 11:06 am
by Yr Alban
Ross Thompson to Edinburgh. Not sure how much sense that makes?
Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread
Posted: Thu May 23, 2024 11:08 am
by Biffer
Yr Alban wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2024 11:06 am
Ross Thompson to Edinburgh. Not sure how much sense that makes?
Me neither. Only a one year deal.
Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread
Posted: Thu May 23, 2024 11:42 am
by Tichtheid
Embra A have four hookers in the 23 for the big game tomorrow night against Watsons, Paddy Harrison starts at 2, Adam McBurney is at 6. Harri Morris is the replacement in the middle of the front row and Jerry Blyth-Lafftery is the backrow sub
Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread
Posted: Thu May 23, 2024 11:48 am
by Tichtheid
I've just looked up Joe Townshend, number 23 there. He's listed as playing out of Strathallan School and it looks like he was in the Scotland 7s team that went to the Commonwealth Youth Games - one to watch, perhaps.
Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread
Posted: Thu May 23, 2024 12:22 pm
by weegie01
Biffer wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2024 11:08 am
Yr Alban wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2024 11:06 am
Ross Thompson to Edinburgh. Not sure how much sense that makes?
Me neither. Only a one year deal.
Franco does not like his style of play and he has not been able to adapt to what Franco wants. The SRU want to see if he can fit in at Edinburgh given the investment made in him to date. They have been getting a lot of stick about giving more support to non Scots (eg. Charlie Savala) than to Scots and seem to be taking that on board.
Fraser Brown rumoured to be moving into a coaching role at Glasgow, and Ben Cairns at Edinburgh..
Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread
Posted: Thu May 23, 2024 1:29 pm
by KingBlairhorn
weegie01 wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2024 12:22 pm
Biffer wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2024 11:08 am
Yr Alban wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2024 11:06 am
Ross Thompson to Edinburgh. Not sure how much sense that makes?
Me neither. Only a one year deal.
Franco does not like his style of play and he has not been able to adapt to what Franco wants. The SRU want to see if he can fit in at Edinburgh given the investment made in him to date. They have been getting a lot of stick about giving more support to non Scots (eg. Charlie Savala) than to Scots and seem to be taking that on board.
Fraser Brown rumoured to be moving into a coaching role at Glasgow, and Ben Cairns at Edinburgh..
He's closer in style to Ben Healy than (for instance) Hastings who is incoming at Glasgow. I actually think this could be an ok move, Edinburgh's only other 10 is Cammy Scott who Everitt doesn't seem to trust.
He's a year older than Healy which really puts his development (or lack thereof) into sharper focus.
Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread
Posted: Thu May 23, 2024 5:38 pm
by KingBlairhorn
A much stronger Glasgow A side selected for the game on Friday, let’s hope this one doesn’t get horsed. Good to see the two Callums starting at prop (Smyth and Norrie).
https://x.com/glasgowwarriors/status/17 ... UZjzgAiO2Q
Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread
Posted: Fri May 24, 2024 12:13 pm
by Tichtheid
Blair Kinghorn to start for Toulouse in tomorrow's Champions Cup final.
Good luck to the laddie, I really hope he plays a blinder.
Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread
Posted: Fri May 24, 2024 2:42 pm
by Biffer
Tichtheid wrote: ↑Fri May 24, 2024 12:13 pm
Blair Kinghorn to start for Toulouse in tomorrow's Champions Cup final.
Good luck to the laddie, I really hope he plays a blinder.
So much for all the doom merchants in Scottish Rugby whop were saying he'd be permanently on the bench behind Ramos. Got to admit I feared that a bit myself, but he's forced himself into the first choice spot.
Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread
Posted: Sat May 25, 2024 9:45 am
by Big D
KingBlairhorn wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2024 1:29 pm
weegie01 wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2024 12:22 pm
Biffer wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2024 11:08 am
Me neither. Only a one year deal.
Franco does not like his style of play and he has not been able to adapt to what Franco wants. The SRU want to see if he can fit in at Edinburgh given the investment made in him to date. They have been getting a lot of stick about giving more support to non Scots (eg. Charlie Savala) than to Scots and seem to be taking that on board.
Fraser Brown rumoured to be moving into a coaching role at Glasgow, and Ben Cairns at Edinburgh..
He's closer in style to Ben Healy than (for instance) Hastings who is incoming at Glasgow. I actually think this could be an ok move, Edinburgh's only other 10 is Cammy Scott who Everitt doesn't seem to trust.
He's a year older than Healy which really puts his development (or lack thereof) into sharper focus.
Aye especially when he's only two years younger than Kinghorn and Tuipulotu. He isn't a young pup anymore.
Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread
Posted: Sat May 25, 2024 1:29 pm
by Slick
Tichtheid wrote: ↑Fri May 24, 2024 12:13 pm
Blair Kinghorn to start for Toulouse in tomorrow's Champions Cup final.
Good luck to the laddie, I really hope he plays a blinder.
Very excited to watch him!
Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread
Posted: Sat May 25, 2024 2:14 pm
by Slick
BK throwing his weight around a bit today
Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread
Posted: Sat May 25, 2024 2:40 pm
by Slick
A fine half from Blair
Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread
Posted: Sat May 25, 2024 3:48 pm
by dkm57
Can see why Toulouse prefer Kinghorn over Ramos.
Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread
Posted: Sat May 25, 2024 4:33 pm
by Yr Alban
Can’t get enough of Leinster getting beat.
Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread
Posted: Sat May 25, 2024 4:33 pm
by Slick
The boy looked happy, what a story
Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread
Posted: Sat May 25, 2024 4:45 pm
by Jock42
Chuffed to fuck for Kinghorn
Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread
Posted: Sat May 25, 2024 5:07 pm
by Biffer
Starting for the biggest club in Europe, ahead of Ramos, in the European Cup final, means he's one of the best about. As we already knew.
Delighted for him, seems to have kicked on being in France.
Toulouse also top of the table in France so the double is on for them
Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread
Posted: Sat May 25, 2024 6:22 pm
by KingBlairhorn
Jock42 wrote: ↑Sat May 25, 2024 4:45 pm
Chuffed to fuck for Kinghorn
Aye.
Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread
Posted: Sat May 25, 2024 6:25 pm
by KingBlairhorn
Biffer wrote: ↑Sat May 25, 2024 5:07 pm
Starting for the biggest club in Europe, ahead of Ramos, in the European Cup final, means he's one of the best about. As we already knew.
Delighted for him, seems to have kicked on being in France.
Toulouse also top of the table in France so the double is on for them
Great for Scotland too. Kinghorn, Smith, Patterson is an excellent roster. We do need our very best to move on occasionally to ensure we retain a deep enough pool.
Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread
Posted: Sat May 25, 2024 8:01 pm
by Yr Alban
Kinghorn mentioned that he spent 9 years with Edinburgh and didn’t beat Leinster once. That is a sad indictment of Scottish club rugby.
Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread
Posted: Sat May 25, 2024 8:14 pm
by Tichtheid
Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread
Posted: Sat May 25, 2024 10:16 pm
by Slick
KingBlairhorn wrote: ↑Sat May 25, 2024 6:25 pm
Biffer wrote: ↑Sat May 25, 2024 5:07 pm
Starting for the biggest club in Europe, ahead of Ramos, in the European Cup final, means he's one of the best about. As we already knew.
Delighted for him, seems to have kicked on being in France.
Toulouse also top of the table in France so the double is on for them
Great for Scotland too. Kinghorn, Smith, Patterson is an excellent roster. We do need our very best to move on occasionally to ensure we retain a deep enough pool.
I’m absolutely all for our best moving out, but then I look at it just from an international perspective really rather than the pro clubs. I also think someone like Ross Thompson would be better off going to D2 for a couple of years rather than moving to Edinburgh
Despite the disappointment of losing him to Edinburgh and the URC, I think all of us thought it was a move away that BK needed and so far it seems to be working wonders. I don’t really think we can expect some players to improve if they are spending a decade in the same environment from a young age
Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread
Posted: Sat May 25, 2024 10:18 pm
by charltom
Less than 100 now... getting closer!
Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread
Posted: Sat May 25, 2024 10:24 pm
by charltom
Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread
Posted: Sun May 26, 2024 9:18 am
by dpedin
charltom wrote: ↑Sat May 25, 2024 10:24 pm
Didn't he do well?
He certainly appears much happier playing his rugby with Toulouse. He has a huge amount of talent and needs to be pushed really hard to even get close to his limits, hopefully he will realise this and become the player everyone thought he would be. Now he knows how good he can and should be he could be a key player and leader for National team for next 5+ years.
Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread
Posted: Sun May 26, 2024 12:02 pm
by topofthemoon
Yr Alban wrote: ↑Sat May 25, 2024 8:01 pm
Kinghorn mentioned that he spent 9 years with Edinburgh and didn’t beat Leinster once. That is a sad indictment of Scottish club rugby.
To be fair, within that 9 years there was a 6 year gap (between September 2017 and November 2023) where Kinghorn didn't play in any of Edinburgh’s games against Leinster (which included a couple of home wins).
He played against Leinster 5 times during his Edinburgh career, only one of which was a home game (lost 20 - 33). He came off the bench in that fixture in September 2016 where the starting Edinburgh backline was 15 Bryce, 14 Allen, 13 Tofilau, 12 Burleigh, 11 Brown, 10 Weir, 9 Fowles
Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread
Posted: Sun May 26, 2024 12:40 pm
by Biffer
topofthemoon wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2024 12:02 pm
Yr Alban wrote: ↑Sat May 25, 2024 8:01 pm
Kinghorn mentioned that he spent 9 years with Edinburgh and didn’t beat Leinster once. That is a sad indictment of Scottish club rugby.
To be fair, within that 9 years there was a 6 year gap (between September 2017 and November 2023) where Kinghorn didn't play in any of Edinburgh’s games against Leinster (which included a couple of home wins).
He played against Leinster 5 times during his Edinburgh career, only one of which was a home game (lost 20 - 33). He came off the bench in that fixture in September 2016 where the starting Edinburgh backline was 15 Bryce, 14 Allen, 13 Tofilau, 12 Burleigh, 11 Brown, 10 Weir, 9 Fowles
That's a shocking backline. Geez.
Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread
Posted: Sun May 26, 2024 12:45 pm
by Tichtheid
Biffer wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2024 12:40 pm
topofthemoon wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2024 12:02 pm
Yr Alban wrote: ↑Sat May 25, 2024 8:01 pm
Kinghorn mentioned that he spent 9 years with Edinburgh and didn’t beat Leinster once. That is a sad indictment of Scottish club rugby.
To be fair, within that 9 years there was a 6 year gap (between September 2017 and November 2023) where Kinghorn didn't play in any of Edinburgh’s games against Leinster (which included a couple of home wins).
He played against Leinster 5 times during his Edinburgh career, only one of which was a home game (lost 20 - 33). He came off the bench in that fixture in September 2016 where the starting Edinburgh backline was 15 Bryce, 14 Allen, 13 Tofilau, 12 Burleigh, 11 Brown, 10 Weir, 9 Fowles
That's a shocking backline. Geez.
Tom Brown was very quick and Phil Burleigh wouldn’t have been out of place in a high quality backline, but that wasn’t a high quality backline
Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread
Posted: Sun May 26, 2024 1:23 pm
by robmatic
Tichtheid wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2024 12:45 pm
Biffer wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2024 12:40 pm
topofthemoon wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2024 12:02 pm
To be fair, within that 9 years there was a 6 year gap (between September 2017 and November 2023) where Kinghorn didn't play in any of Edinburgh’s games against Leinster (which included a couple of home wins).
He played against Leinster 5 times during his Edinburgh career, only one of which was a home game (lost 20 - 33). He came off the bench in that fixture in September 2016 where the starting Edinburgh backline was 15 Bryce, 14 Allen, 13 Tofilau, 12 Burleigh, 11 Brown, 10 Weir, 9 Fowles
That's a shocking backline. Geez.
Tom Brown was very quick and Phil Burleigh wouldn’t have been out of place in a high quality backline, but that wasn’t a high quality backline
A Phil Burleigh would be great for us now.
Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread
Posted: Sun May 26, 2024 6:52 pm
by Yr Alban
topofthemoon wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2024 12:02 pm
Yr Alban wrote: ↑Sat May 25, 2024 8:01 pm
Kinghorn mentioned that he spent 9 years with Edinburgh and didn’t beat Leinster once. That is a sad indictment of Scottish club rugby.
To be fair, within that 9 years there was a 6 year gap (between September 2017 and November 2023) where Kinghorn didn't play in any of Edinburgh’s games against Leinster (which included a couple of home wins).
He played against Leinster 5 times during his Edinburgh career, only one of which was a home game (lost 20 - 33). He came off the bench in that fixture in September 2016 where the starting Edinburgh backline was 15 Bryce, 14 Allen, 13 Tofilau, 12 Burleigh, 11 Brown, 10 Weir, 9 Fowles
Fair enough - in the face of the stats, it looks a bit less damning
Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread
Posted: Mon May 27, 2024 7:21 am
by clydecloggie
Was in the stadium on Saturday - BK played an absolute blinder. His cover tackles were beyond brilliant and saved two certain tries. Of course Dupont got MotM, because he always does regardless of how he plays, and in all honesty Willis would have been equally/more deserving of that accolade...but arguably BK's impact on the match was on a par with those two.
Toulouse's defence was magnificent to see - they completely negated the Leinster / Ireland tactic of multiple short running lines bamboozling the defence so they don't know where the ball is by simply standing their ground not worrying about it and making dominant hits as soon as a guy in blue ran into contact. And if there was a break, they had a never-say-die scramble defence as a back-up. Scotland take note - that's how you beat Irish rugby.
Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread
Posted: Mon May 27, 2024 11:51 am
by SaintK
clydecloggie wrote: ↑Mon May 27, 2024 7:21 am
Was in the stadium on Saturday - BK played an absolute blinder. His cover tackles were beyond brilliant and saved two certain tries. Of course Dupont got MotM, because he always does regardless of how he plays, and in all honesty Willis would have been equally/more deserving of that accolade...but arguably BK's impact on the match was on a par with those two.
Toulouse's defence was magnificent to see - they completely negated the Leinster / Ireland tactic of multiple short running lines bamboozling the defence so they don't know where the ball is by simply standing their ground not worrying about it and making dominant hits as soon as a guy in blue ran into contact. And if there was a break, they had a never-say-die scramble defence as a back-up. Scotland take note - that's how you beat Irish rugby.
I was also there on Saturday. Kinghorn had an excellent first half and was very secureunder the high ball and very visible in both attack and defence. He was a bit quieter when shifted from FB to wing in the second half and spilled one important ball and missed a couple of tackles.. Dupont was head and shoulders MoM and I would have had Willis and Roumat (who was excellent) ahead of Kinghorn
Bloody good day out and am pleased that the better team on the day won.
There is tons of bitching about Carley from the swarm in the other place but I thought he had a pretty good match.
Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread
Posted: Mon May 27, 2024 7:33 pm
by Sandstorm
SaintK wrote: ↑Mon May 27, 2024 11:51 am
There is tons of bitching about EVERYTHING from the swarm
fixed
Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread
Posted: Tue May 28, 2024 8:02 pm
by topofthemoon
Permutations for Edinburgh depending on how many points they collect against Benetton on Saturday:
https://www.scotlandrugbynews.com/analy ... -assessed/
Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread
Posted: Tue May 28, 2024 8:03 pm
by topofthemoon
Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread
Posted: Wed May 29, 2024 6:43 am
by Jock42
Goosen out with a foot fracture.