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I'd love to see us go apeshit with the bat and have England chase hard or survive for the last two sessions. No point in letting it drift to a tame draw...unless that's going to be our game plan against India?

Gumboot wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 9:31 am I'd love to see us go apeshit with the bat and have England chase hard or survive for the last two sessions. No point in letting it drift to a tame draw...unless that's going to be our game plan against India?

Same.

But points for the comp is what’s on their mind.

Ymx wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 9:41 am

Gumboot wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 9:31 am I'd love to see us go apeshit with the bat and have England chase hard or survive for the last two sessions. No point in letting it drift to a tame draw...unless that's going to be our game plan against India?

Same.

But points for the comp is what’s on their mind.

Didn't know these tests counted towards anything tbh. The next Test Championship?

I would love it if anyone has a friend with a working link

Gumboot wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 9:43 am

Ymx wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 9:41 am

Gumboot wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 9:31 am I'd love to see us go apeshit with the bat and have England chase hard or survive for the last two sessions. No point in letting it drift to a tame draw...unless that's going to be our game plan against India?

Same.

But points for the comp is what’s on their mind.

Didn't know these tests counted towards anything tbh. The next Test Championship?

Ah, I might be wrong. But I swear one of the commentators said of NZ they need to keep an eye on points, late yesterday afternoon.

Gumboot wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 9:56 am https://www.vipboxtv.se/stream-england- ... and-live-1

Cheers mate

And just like that, England have no reviews left

Rinkals wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 9:24 am

Enzedder wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 9:09 pm

Ymx wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 5:59 pm England’s bowling improved again after the mishapened ball replacement

Not every country tampers with a cricket ball mate. [Atherton was innocent; so was Pringle]

So was Broad.

So many innocent Englishmen.

Just to be clear you guys think England deliberately... Made the batsmen deform the ball??

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 11:53 am

Rinkals wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 9:24 am

Enzedder wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 9:09 pm

Not every country tampers with a cricket ball mate. [Atherton was innocent; so was Pringle]

So was Broad.

So many innocent Englishmen.

Just to be clear you guys think England deliberately... Made the batsmen deform the ball??

It's part of the "Grand Conspiracy"

Everyone knows the Umps actually have a 2nd set of guages, which is deformed; so if when they test the ball against it; it makes a normal ball look deformed !

fishfoodie wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 12:03 pm

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 11:53 am

Rinkals wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 9:24 am

So was Broad.

So many innocent Englishmen.

Just to be clear you guys think England deliberately... Made the batsmen deform the ball??

It's part of the "Grand Conspiracy"

Everyone knows the Umps actually have a 2nd set of guages, which is deformed; so if when they test the ball against it; it makes a normal ball look deformed !

Yep, indeed, that was the final piece of the puzzle.
Switched using remarkable pick pocketing skills they’ve also developed

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 11:53 am

Rinkals wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 9:24 am

Enzedder wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 9:09 pm

Not every country tampers with a cricket ball mate. [Atherton was innocent; so was Pringle]

So was Broad.

So many innocent Englishmen.

Just to be clear you guys think England deliberately... Made the batsmen deform the ball??

Don't be so precious.

In other news: Williamson has given England a damn good chance of winning this.

1.20pm New Zealand have declared. Southee and Jamieson outside warming up. England need 273 to win in two sessions. A minimum of 75 overs left in the day on paper. Play can go on till 7 pm.

England at a canter for me.

4 runs off the first over.

England ahead of the RRR already.

Wow. That’s so chaseable.

Threw out a tempter.

Fair play Williamson

Burns marking out his guard again.

England a bit behind the run rate, but looking pretty comfortable.

I really think that the declaration was reckless.

Without casting any aspersions, its the sort of thing Hansie would do.

Jamieson obviously tiring now.

NZ wouldn’t bowl England out in two sessions. What is there to gain by such a declaration. Stupid move.

Run rate picking up now.

England have this under control.

Poor review. Would have missed a second set of stumps.

Desperation.

Rinkals wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 1:55 pm Poor review. Would have missed a second set of stumps.

Desperation.

An England quality of review.

Rinkals wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 1:30 pm
Without casting any aspersions, its the sort of thing Hansie would do.

What an absolutely ridiculous sentence

Happyhooker wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 2:05 pm

Rinkals wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 1:30 pm
Without casting any aspersions, its the sort of thing Hansie would do.

What an absolutely ridiculous sentence

You've removed half my post which robs it of context. Its the sort of thing bimbo would do.


I hope I've made it clear that I'm not accusing Williamson of anything apart from recklessness.

Just to add that I was referring to a test where Hansie made an irrational declaration at centurion.

You guys realise that England would have had to score their runs faster than any of the three innings in this match so far, right?

It was not an overly aggressive declaration.

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 4:05 pm You guys realise that England would have had to score their runs faster than any of the three innings in this match so far, right?

It was not an overly aggressive declaration.

It’s a little bit different when it’s 1st innings and or unknown totals. So not comparable for run rate.

Now it’s more akin to chasing a one day total but with way more overs. And failing to attempt to chase in order to preserve a draw.

I reckon a lot of other teams would have had a go at that.

Ymx wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 4:19 pm

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 4:05 pm You guys realise that England would have had to score their runs faster than any of the three innings in this match so far, right?

It was not an overly aggressive declaration.

It’s a little bit different when it’s 1st innings and or unknown totals. So not comparable for run rate.

Now it’s more akin to chasing a one day total but with way more overs. And failing to attempt to chase in order to preserve a draw.

I reckon a lot of other teams would have had a go at that.

They might, but England's batting lineup is pretty terrible and not designed for a fast chase either. I'd have been amazed if we'd tried.

I reckon England are the only side with a chance though, limited as it may be. Ben Stokes could have made this interesting

Kane is trying to lessen the target by bowling himself and Santa.

If Santner is not injured, this should be his last test

Williamson giving a lot of easy runs away in the hope of getting England to come out of their shell.

Disappointing. This game was immenantly winnable.

Enzedder wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 4:29 pm I reckon England are the only side with a chance though, limited as it may be. Ben Stokes could have made this interesting

Now, yes - but at the time of the declaration all results were live. And yes, stokes and buttler would've made it interesting.

England are getting pilloried for this approach and I think people are being ridiculous. We've been second best for most of this match, our batting is incredibly fragile, and batting out a draw would be a great result all things considered.

England are a bit softcock for not going for this

Rob Key was a bit disparaging about the NZ attack in the first England innings, and though I thought he was being very unfair at the time, it really does seem that they don't have the bowlers to take twenty wickets.

England really should have won this but I don't see NZ getting into this good a position again. I can easily see England winning the rest of the games this series.

We moan when everyone gets out flinging the bat. We moan when they glue themselves in for the draw. We'd have moaned if we lost.

Hal Jordan wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 6:17 pm We moan when everyone gets out flinging the bat. We moan when they glue themselves in for the draw. We'd have moaned if we lost.

It wasn’t mostly England fans moaning.

Ymx wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 6:40 pm

Hal Jordan wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 6:17 pm We moan when everyone gets out flinging the bat. We moan when they glue themselves in for the draw. We'd have moaned if we lost.

It wasn’t mostly England fans moaning.

No shit! Burns given 2 lives and a day of rain saved their arses.

Hal Jordan wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 6:17 pm We moan when everyone gets out flinging the bat. We moan when they glue themselves in for the draw. We'd have moaned if we lost.

You know those aren't the only two options, right?

It was a rusty performance from both sides on the whole. Round 2 will be interesting to watch.

Kiwis without Boult



Add Archer, Woakes and the Kiwi to the pom's team and they are not going to be beaten.

Rinkals wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 6:12 pm Rob Key was a bit disparaging about the NZ attack in the first England innings, and though I thought he was being very unfair at the time, it really does seem that they don't have the bowlers to take twenty wickets.

Ludicrous comment given they bowled NZ to a 100-run first innings lead and only had two sessions on the last day.

Rinkals wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 6:12 pm England really should have won this but I don't see NZ getting into this good a position again. I can easily see England winning the rest of the games this series.

Games = game.

And England winning that game would represent the sort of improvement that would have stewards all over it if it happened at the racetrack. They were always second in this game and only got a chance to win it due to rain. Having finally got some overs under their belt (and got rid of Santner), the NZ attack will also be much more potent next time.

Ollie Robinson suspended from all international cricket pending an ECB investigation.

Idiots.

Anyway, a good draw for England. Dunno what the team for the next test will look like though.