NPR

Biffer wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 10:24 am

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 10:16 am Going to Toulon for a Quins game is one of my favourite sporting memories, even though we did eventually lose heavily. Great place, great trip, great sets of fans, great atmosphere, great food.

Nous les terribles guerriers du Pilou-Pilou qui descendons de la Montagne vers la Mer!

Similar. Great memories of trips to Toulon, Gloucester, Northampton, Dublin, Montpellier watching Edinburgh. Wouldn’t go to South Africa, too expensive, too much time. Those trips generally cost me a couple of hundred quid plus beer. South Africa would be four times that at least.

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 10:16 am Going to Toulon for a Quins game is one of my favourite sporting memories, even though we did eventually lose heavily. Great place, great trip, great sets of fans, great atmosphere, great food.

Nous les terribles guerriers du Pilou-Pilou qui descendons de la Montagne vers la Mer!

_Os_ wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 10:56 am

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 10:02 am

average joe wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 9:54 am

Shame, the poor little souls. You can land in CT in less than a day, with less than no jetlag. They no longer need to catch a ferry down de-Nile.
You English have been complaining about something or another since the beginning of whatever this comp is called now. I don't think you'll ever be completely happy with it. Perhaps it's the dreary weather that makes you such grumpy fucks.

Ah yes the 24 hours spent on flights for an away game, at a casual 1.5k - 2 grand in Economy. Unless you want to spend actual days in the air.

This tournament has been mortally wounded by the introduction of the Saffer sides that's led to an absolutely batshit insane format and this sort of ridiculous anti-fan fixture that excludes only the richest fans or those few who live in the local area to begin with. I'm sure you wouldn't begin to argue that the fans aren't a huge part of European rugby.

Garbage tournament, garbage decisions. And it'd be the same regardless of which European side was having to travel to Cape Town. I guess unlike the French, we might actually send a first XV, more's the pity.

I think Joe was maybe referring to the players, that's how I read it, not away fans (which aren't really a thing in SA).

I can't see anyone/many going to SA for a knockout game as I've posted previously. But your numbers aren't accurate, I found return tickets on SkyScanner from London to CT covering Friday 31st March/Saturday 1st April/Sunday 2nd April for under £800, and on at least one of the flights it's 13-ish hours. Sure it means taking a few days off work flying out midweek, but it's half the numbers you're posting. You can get return tickets from the UK to SA under £500 (but not covering these dates from what I can see), £2k is way out.

The equation changes a bit with non-knockout fixtures if someone basically wants to go on holiday and see their team too, as it can be planned more in advance. If anyone is spending the money, they're far better off spending it on two weeks rather than a weekend.

Biffer wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 10:24 am

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 10:16 am Going to Toulon for a Quins game is one of my favourite sporting memories, even though we did eventually lose heavily. Great place, great trip, great sets of fans, great atmosphere, great food.

Nous les terribles guerriers du Pilou-Pilou qui descendons de la Montagne vers la Mer!

Similar. Great memories of trips to Toulon, Gloucester, Northampton, Dublin, Montpellier watching Edinburgh. Wouldn’t go to South Africa, too expensive, too much time. Those trips generally cost me a couple of hundred quid plus beer. South Africa would be four times that at least.

_Os_ wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 10:56 am

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 10:02 am

average joe wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 9:54 am

Shame, the poor little souls. You can land in CT in less than a day, with less than no jetlag. They no longer need to catch a ferry down de-Nile.
You English have been complaining about something or another since the beginning of whatever this comp is called now. I don't think you'll ever be completely happy with it. Perhaps it's the dreary weather that makes you such grumpy fucks.

Ah yes the 24 hours spent on flights for an away game, at a casual 1.5k - 2 grand in Economy. Unless you want to spend actual days in the air.

This tournament has been mortally wounded by the introduction of the Saffer sides that's led to an absolutely batshit insane format and this sort of ridiculous anti-fan fixture that excludes only the richest fans or those few who live in the local area to begin with. I'm sure you wouldn't begin to argue that the fans aren't a huge part of European rugby.

Garbage tournament, garbage decisions. And it'd be the same regardless of which European side was having to travel to Cape Town. I guess unlike the French, we might actually send a first XV, more's the pity.

I think Joe was maybe referring to the players, that's how I read it, not away fans (which aren't really a thing in SA).

I can't see anyone/many going to SA for a knockout game as I've posted previously. But your numbers aren't accurate, I found return tickets on SkyScanner from London to CT covering Friday 31st March/Saturday 1st April/Sunday 2nd April for under £800, and on at least one of the flights it's 13-ish hours. Sure it means taking a few days off work flying out midweek, but it's half the numbers you're posting. You can get return tickets from the UK to SA under £500 (but not covering these dates from what I can see), £2k is way out.

The equation changes a bit with non-knockout fixtures if someone basically wants to go on holiday and see their team too, as it can be planned more in advance. If anyone is spending the money, they're far better off spending it on two weeks rather than a weekend.

inactionman wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 11:05 am

Biffer wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 10:24 am

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 10:16 am Going to Toulon for a Quins game is one of my favourite sporting memories, even though we did eventually lose heavily. Great place, great trip, great sets of fans, great atmosphere, great food.

Nous les terribles guerriers du Pilou-Pilou qui descendons de la Montagne vers la Mer!

Similar. Great memories of trips to Toulon, Gloucester, Northampton, Dublin, Montpellier watching Edinburgh. Wouldn’t go to South Africa, too expensive, too much time. Those trips generally cost me a couple of hundred quid plus beer. South Africa would be four times that at least.

How much did you drink?!

_Os_ wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 10:56 am

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 10:02 am

average joe wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 9:54 am

Shame, the poor little souls. You can land in CT in less than a day, with less than no jetlag. They no longer need to catch a ferry down de-Nile.
You English have been complaining about something or another since the beginning of whatever this comp is called now. I don't think you'll ever be completely happy with it. Perhaps it's the dreary weather that makes you such grumpy fucks.

Ah yes the 24 hours spent on flights for an away game, at a casual 1.5k - 2 grand in Economy. Unless you want to spend actual days in the air.

This tournament has been mortally wounded by the introduction of the Saffer sides that's led to an absolutely batshit insane format and this sort of ridiculous anti-fan fixture that excludes only the richest fans or those few who live in the local area to begin with. I'm sure you wouldn't begin to argue that the fans aren't a huge part of European rugby.

Garbage tournament, garbage decisions. And it'd be the same regardless of which European side was having to travel to Cape Town. I guess unlike the French, we might actually send a first XV, more's the pity.

I think Joe was maybe referring to the players, that's how I read it, not away fans (which aren't really a thing in SA).

I can't see anyone/many going to SA for a knockout game as I've posted previously. But your numbers aren't accurate, I found return tickets on SkyScanner from London to CT covering Friday 31st March/Saturday 1st April/Sunday 2nd April for under £800, and on at least one of the flights it's 13-ish hours. Sure it means taking a few days off work flying out midweek, but it's half the numbers you're posting. You can get return tickets from the UK to SA under £500 (but not covering these dates from what I can see), £2k is way out.

The equation changes a bit with non-knockout fixtures if someone basically wants to go on holiday and see their team too, as it can be planned more in advance. If anyone is spending the money, they're far better off spending it on two weeks rather than a weekend.

average joe wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 11:18 am Yes, yes, we get it. It's nice to go to the south of France and be snugly back in your bed a few hours later, you can still do that if you want. No one's forcing you to part with your hard earned Poundses to fly to SA. You can still support your team from home and have the privilege to watch SA sides. Our teams do travel to your isle too you know.

Biffer wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 11:10 am

inactionman wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 11:05 am

Biffer wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 10:24 am

Similar. Great memories of trips to Toulon, Gloucester, Northampton, Dublin, Montpellier watching Edinburgh. Wouldn’t go to South Africa, too expensive, too much time. Those trips generally cost me a couple of hundred quid plus beer. South Africa would be four times that at least.

How much did you drink?!

Not as much as the young lad who was in Teague's the night before the game who fell asleep on the table and pissed himself (and when I told the barmaid she said 'again?').

But a considerable amount.

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 10:02 am
Ah yes the 24 hours spent on flights for an away game, at a casual 1.5k - 2 grand in Economy. Unless you want to spend actual days in the air.

This tournament has been mortally wounded by the introduction of the Saffer sides that's led to an absolutely batshit insane format and this sort of ridiculous anti-fan fixture that excludes only the richest fans or those few who live in the local area to begin with. I'm sure you wouldn't begin to argue that the fans aren't a huge part of European rugby.

Garbage tournament, garbage decisions. And it'd be the same regardless of which European side was having to travel to Cape Town. I guess unlike the French, we might actually send a first XV, more's the pity.

average joe wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 11:52 am

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 10:02 am
Ah yes the 24 hours spent on flights for an away game, at a casual 1.5k - 2 grand in Economy. Unless you want to spend actual days in the air.

This tournament has been mortally wounded by the introduction of the Saffer sides that's led to an absolutely batshit insane format and this sort of ridiculous anti-fan fixture that excludes only the richest fans or those few who live in the local area to begin with. I'm sure you wouldn't begin to argue that the fans aren't a huge part of European rugby.

Garbage tournament, garbage decisions. And it'd be the same regardless of which European side was having to travel to Cape Town. I guess unlike the French, we might actually send a first XV, more's the pity.

We don't want your grumpy arse over here anyways, your team is welcome though.

Like I've said, you Brits have been moaning about this comp for eons. Long before we Saffas were even a feature.
I get it, we are the flavour of the season now. We spoil everything for you. You can't even go and watch a game in France anymore because of us.

How many times have you changed this comp now? And you're still not fokon happy.
You'll never be fokon happy, because you're a Brit and that's just how it is.

Biffer wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 11:23 am

average joe wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 11:18 am Yes, yes, we get it. It's nice to go to the south of France and be snugly back in your bed a few hours later, you can still do that if you want. No one's forcing you to part with your hard earned Poundses to fly to SA. You can still support your team from home and have the privilege to watch SA sides. Our teams do travel to your isle too you know.

You're missing the point. The tournament is worse off for not having travelling fans.

average joe wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 11:54 am

Biffer wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 11:23 am

average joe wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 11:18 am Yes, yes, we get it. It's nice to go to the south of France and be snugly back in your bed a few hours later, you can still do that if you want. No one's forcing you to part with your hard earned Poundses to fly to SA. You can still support your team from home and have the privilege to watch SA sides. Our teams do travel to your isle too you know.

You're missing the point. The tournament is worse off for not having travelling fans.

Who said you can't have traveling fans?

average joe wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 11:52 am

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 10:02 am
Ah yes the 24 hours spent on flights for an away game, at a casual 1.5k - 2 grand in Economy. Unless you want to spend actual days in the air.

This tournament has been mortally wounded by the introduction of the Saffer sides that's led to an absolutely batshit insane format and this sort of ridiculous anti-fan fixture that excludes only the richest fans or those few who live in the local area to begin with. I'm sure you wouldn't begin to argue that the fans aren't a huge part of European rugby.

Garbage tournament, garbage decisions. And it'd be the same regardless of which European side was having to travel to Cape Town. I guess unlike the French, we might actually send a first XV, more's the pity.

We don't want your grumpy arse over here anyways, your team is welcome though.

Like I've said, you Brits have been moaning about this comp for eons. Long before we Saffas were even a feature.
I get it, we are the flavour of the season now. We spoil everything for you. You can't even go and watch a game in France anymore because of us.

How many times have you changed this comp now? And you're still not fokon happy.
You'll never be fokon happy, because you're a Brit and that's just how it is.

Biffer wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 11:58 am

average joe wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 11:54 am

Biffer wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 11:23 am

You're missing the point. The tournament is worse off for not having travelling fans.

Who said you can't have traveling fans?

Read the previous fucking page you twat.

150 travelling fans doesn't create any atmosphere. Normally Munster would have five or ten thousand fans going away for a Euro knockout game. You'll get a few hundred but it's not the same.

I don't expect you to understand this because as has been pointed out, there's not many travelling fans even in domestic games for you. You've just never experienced a tournament like that.

Slick wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 12:11 pm

average joe wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 11:52 am

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 10:02 am
Ah yes the 24 hours spent on flights for an away game, at a casual 1.5k - 2 grand in Economy. Unless you want to spend actual days in the air.

This tournament has been mortally wounded by the introduction of the Saffer sides that's led to an absolutely batshit insane format and this sort of ridiculous anti-fan fixture that excludes only the richest fans or those few who live in the local area to begin with. I'm sure you wouldn't begin to argue that the fans aren't a huge part of European rugby.

Garbage tournament, garbage decisions. And it'd be the same regardless of which European side was having to travel to Cape Town. I guess unlike the French, we might actually send a first XV, more's the pity.

We don't want your grumpy arse over here anyways, your team is welcome though.

Like I've said, you Brits have been moaning about this comp for eons. Long before we Saffas were even a feature.
I get it, we are the flavour of the season now. We spoil everything for you. You can't even go and watch a game in France anymore because of us.

How many times have you changed this comp now? And you're still not fokon happy.
You'll never be fokon happy, because you're a Brit and that's just how it is.

We used to be delighted with it, 2nd only to the 6N IMO. True they started to fuck with it before the SA teams were involved but this is even worse.

OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 12:28 pm

average joe wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 12:35 pm

Biffer wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 11:58 am

average joe wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 11:54 am

Who said you can't have traveling fans?

Read the previous fucking page you twat.

150 travelling fans doesn't create any atmosphere. Normally Munster would have five or ten thousand fans going away for a Euro knockout game. You'll get a few hundred but it's not the same.

I don't expect you to understand this because as has been pointed out, there's not many travelling fans even in domestic games for you. You've just never experienced a tournament like that.

Can Thomond Park even accommodate 10000 traveling fans?
I've watched Curry Cup games at Loftus where it was packed to the rafters. 52000 strong with a fair mix. Granted, I have not seen that since pre 2019 though.

Sandstorm wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 12:47 pm FFS can we just have 1 single, measly thread where it doesn't degrade into a "Insert random country here" vs Saffer travel whinge-fest?

For the love of God, people!!!! Just concentrate on the fucking rugby.

Biffer wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 1:22 pm

Sandstorm wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 12:47 pm FFS can we just have 1 single, measly thread where it doesn't degrade into a "Insert random country here" vs Saffer travel whinge-fest?

For the love of God, people!!!! Just concentrate on the fucking rugby.

Maybe if there weren't the 'this was all shit before we arrived boet, you should be vokking thanking us' shitposts, it wouldn't happen so much.

_Os_ wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 10:56 am

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 10:02 am

average joe wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 9:54 am

Shame, the poor little souls. You can land in CT in less than a day, with less than no jetlag. They no longer need to catch a ferry down de-Nile.
You English have been complaining about something or another since the beginning of whatever this comp is called now. I don't think you'll ever be completely happy with it. Perhaps it's the dreary weather that makes you such grumpy fucks.

Ah yes the 24 hours spent on flights for an away game, at a casual 1.5k - 2 grand in Economy. Unless you want to spend actual days in the air.

This tournament has been mortally wounded by the introduction of the Saffer sides that's led to an absolutely batshit insane format and this sort of ridiculous anti-fan fixture that excludes only the richest fans or those few who live in the local area to begin with. I'm sure you wouldn't begin to argue that the fans aren't a huge part of European rugby.

Garbage tournament, garbage decisions. And it'd be the same regardless of which European side was having to travel to Cape Town. I guess unlike the French, we might actually send a first XV, more's the pity.

I think Joe was maybe referring to the players, that's how I read it, not away fans (which aren't really a thing in SA).

I can't see anyone/many going to SA for a knockout game as I've posted previously. But your numbers aren't accurate, I found return tickets on SkyScanner from London to CT covering Friday 31st March/Saturday 1st April/Sunday 2nd April for under £800, and on at least one of the flights it's 13-ish hours. Sure it means taking a few days off work flying out midweek, but it's half the numbers you're posting. You can get return tickets from the UK to SA under £500 (but not covering these dates from what I can see), £2k is way out.

The equation changes a bit with non-knockout fixtures if someone basically wants to go on holiday and see their team too, as it can be planned more in advance. If anyone is spending the money, they're far better off spending it on two weeks rather than a weekend.

average joe wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 11:52 am

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 10:02 am
Ah yes the 24 hours spent on flights for an away game, at a casual 1.5k - 2 grand in Economy. Unless you want to spend actual days in the air.

This tournament has been mortally wounded by the introduction of the Saffer sides that's led to an absolutely batshit insane format and this sort of ridiculous anti-fan fixture that excludes only the richest fans or those few who live in the local area to begin with. I'm sure you wouldn't begin to argue that the fans aren't a huge part of European rugby.

Garbage tournament, garbage decisions. And it'd be the same regardless of which European side was having to travel to Cape Town. I guess unlike the French, we might actually send a first XV, more's the pity.

We don't want your grumpy arse over here anyways, your team is welcome though.

Like I've said, you Brits have been moaning about this comp for eons. Long before we Saffas were even a feature.
I get it, we are the flavour of the season now. We spoil everything for you. You can't even go and watch a game in France anymore because of us.

How many times have you changed this comp now? And you're still not fokon happy.
You'll never be fokon happy, because you're a Brit and that's just how it is.

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 9:25 am Quins supporters usually turn up in good numbers and good voice, especially as the supporters association usually puts on coaches etc. It can make a real difference in those tough away games.

Wait, what's that skippy? The record from London to Cape Town overland is 13 days?

I don't think a Quins side that will have had their England players back for a grand total of one match - a huge one away to table toppers Saracens at the Spurs stadium - will be in much state to compete against a side of the quality and class of the Stormers having been forced to travel 6,000 miles for the privilege. Absolutely absurd stuff.

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 10:02 am This tournament has been mortally wounded by the introduction of the Saffer sides that's led to an absolutely batshit insane format and this sort of ridiculous anti-fan fixture that excludes only the richest fans or those few who live in the local area to begin with. I'm sure you wouldn't begin to argue that the fans aren't a huge part of European rugby.

Garbage tournament, garbage decisions. And it'd be the same regardless of which European side was having to travel to Cape Town. I guess unlike the French, we might actually send a first XV, more's the pity.

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 10:16 am Going to Toulon for a Quins game is one of my favourite sporting memories, even though we did eventually lose heavily. Great place, great trip, great sets of fans, great atmosphere, great food.

Nous les terribles guerriers du Pilou-Pilou qui descendons de la Montagne vers la Mer!

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 1:39 pm Yeah but what does ROG know about what makes European rugby a success? Has he not spoken to some gutteral bellend from a shanty town at the bottom of the world?

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 1:39 pm Yeah but what does ROG know about what makes European rugby a success? Has he not spoken to some gutteral bellend from a shanty town at the bottom of the world?

Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 1:34 pm

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 10:02 am This tournament has been mortally wounded by the introduction of the Saffer sides that's led to an absolutely batshit insane format and this sort of ridiculous anti-fan fixture that excludes only the richest fans or those few who live in the local area to begin with. I'm sure you wouldn't begin to argue that the fans aren't a huge part of European rugby.

Garbage tournament, garbage decisions. And it'd be the same regardless of which European side was having to travel to Cape Town. I guess unlike the French, we might actually send a first XV, more's the pity.

ROG on Sat said he felt the comp was on its knees. You can see why so many of the Fre sides have gone back to the bad old days of not giving a sh*t. Although Toulouse are still putting in the full shift, Dupont came out and stated he categorically disagreed with the changes.

"South Africans teams have turned things upside down," Mola told reporters.

"You may as well play them as they're here. I can't wait," he added.

Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 1:43 pm

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 1:39 pm Yeah but what does ROG know about what makes European rugby a success? Has he not spoken to some gutteral bellend from a shanty town at the bottom of the world?

You have to assume he does from his Munster days. Regardless, this is heading SOUP direction where we all lose interest and the thing disappears up its own arse.

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 10:02 am

average joe wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 9:54 am

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 9:25 am Quins supporters usually turn up in good numbers and good voice, especially as the supporters association usually puts on coaches etc. It can make a real difference in those tough away games.

Wait, what's that skippy? The record from London to Cape Town overland is 13 days?

I don't think a Quins side that will have had their England players back for a grand total of one match - a huge one away to table toppers Saracens at the Spurs stadium - will be in much state to compete against a side of the quality and class of the Stormers having been forced to travel 6,000 miles for the privilege. Absolutely absurd stuff.

Shame, the poor little souls. You can land in CT in less than a day, with less than no jetlag. They no longer need to catch a ferry down de-Nile.
You English have been complaining about something or another since the beginning of whatever this comp is called now. I don't think you'll ever be completely happy with it. Perhaps it's the dreary weather that makes you such grumpy fucks.

Ah yes the 24 hours spent on flights for an away game, at a casual 1.5k - 2 grand in Economy. Unless you want to spend actual days in the air.

This tournament has been mortally wounded by the introduction of the Saffer sides that's led to an absolutely batshit insane format and this sort of ridiculous anti-fan fixture that excludes only the richest fans or those few who live in the local area to begin with. I'm sure you wouldn't begin to argue that the fans aren't a huge part of European rugby.

Garbage tournament, garbage decisions. And it'd be the same regardless of which European side was having to travel to Cape Town. I guess unlike the French, we might actually send a first XV, more's the pity.

Biffer wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 11:23 am

average joe wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 11:18 am Yes, yes, we get it. It's nice to go to the south of France and be snugly back in your bed a few hours later, you can still do that if you want. No one's forcing you to part with your hard earned Poundses to fly to SA. You can still support your team from home and have the privilege to watch SA sides. Our teams do travel to your isle too you know.

You're missing the point. The tournament is worse off for not having travelling fans.

Chilli wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 1:53 pm

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 10:02 am

average joe wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 9:54 am

Shame, the poor little souls. You can land in CT in less than a day, with less than no jetlag. They no longer need to catch a ferry down de-Nile.
You English have been complaining about something or another since the beginning of whatever this comp is called now. I don't think you'll ever be completely happy with it. Perhaps it's the dreary weather that makes you such grumpy fucks.

Ah yes the 24 hours spent on flights for an away game, at a casual 1.5k - 2 grand in Economy. Unless you want to spend actual days in the air.

This tournament has been mortally wounded by the introduction of the Saffer sides that's led to an absolutely batshit insane format and this sort of ridiculous anti-fan fixture that excludes only the richest fans or those few who live in the local area to begin with. I'm sure you wouldn't begin to argue that the fans aren't a huge part of European rugby.

Garbage tournament, garbage decisions. And it'd be the same regardless of which European side was having to travel to Cape Town. I guess unlike the French, we might actually send a first XV, more's the pity.

If it so crap why are you wasting your time and energy on it. Just ignore the competition and focus your energy somewhere else.

Chilli wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 1:53 pm

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 10:02 am

average joe wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 9:54 am

Shame, the poor little souls. You can land in CT in less than a day, with less than no jetlag. They no longer need to catch a ferry down de-Nile.
You English have been complaining about something or another since the beginning of whatever this comp is called now. I don't think you'll ever be completely happy with it. Perhaps it's the dreary weather that makes you such grumpy fucks.

Ah yes the 24 hours spent on flights for an away game, at a casual 1.5k - 2 grand in Economy. Unless you want to spend actual days in the air.

This tournament has been mortally wounded by the introduction of the Saffer sides that's led to an absolutely batshit insane format and this sort of ridiculous anti-fan fixture that excludes only the richest fans or those few who live in the local area to begin with. I'm sure you wouldn't begin to argue that the fans aren't a huge part of European rugby.

Garbage tournament, garbage decisions. And it'd be the same regardless of which European side was having to travel to Cape Town. I guess unlike the French, we might actually send a first XV, more's the pity.

If it so crap why are you wasting your time and energy on it. Just ignore the competition and focus your energy somewhere else.

Biffer wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 1:54 pm

Chilli wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 1:53 pm

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 10:02 am

Ah yes the 24 hours spent on flights for an away game, at a casual 1.5k - 2 grand in Economy. Unless you want to spend actual days in the air.

This tournament has been mortally wounded by the introduction of the Saffer sides that's led to an absolutely batshit insane format and this sort of ridiculous anti-fan fixture that excludes only the richest fans or those few who live in the local area to begin with. I'm sure you wouldn't begin to argue that the fans aren't a huge part of European rugby.

Garbage tournament, garbage decisions. And it'd be the same regardless of which European side was having to travel to Cape Town. I guess unlike the French, we might actually send a first XV, more's the pity.

If it so crap why are you wasting your time and energy on it. Just ignore the competition and focus your energy somewhere else.

Southern Hemisphere attitude to competitions summed up there. Let's shit on it and toss it to one side, there'll be another one along in a minute. Wait a minute, where have all the fans gone?