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We could see a big score here (more so than now!), Japan going so hard off the line in defence you have to think their level will drop.

Some really good players out there. Very much looking forward to seeing their true level at the U20 6N next year.

It appears that the U20s are, this time, not fucking it up.

33-0 currently.

Yr Alban wrote: Fri Jul 12, 2024 8:05 pm It appears that the U20s are, this time, not fucking it up.

33-0 currently.

Hold your horses there, pretty sure they still have to play the winners of pool B to get promoted…it’s likely USA, who they should absolutely horse but you never know.

Is the USA match available on rugbypass tonight, should I randomly find myself in the Netherlands again?

KingBlairhorn wrote: Fri Jul 12, 2024 8:15 pm

Yr Alban wrote: Fri Jul 12, 2024 8:05 pm It appears that the U20s are, this time, not fucking it up.

33-0 currently.

Hold your horses there, pretty sure they still have to play the winners of pool B to get promoted…it’s likely USA, who they should absolutely horse but you never know.

Yeah - I mean they’re not fucking up the crucial group match again

Yr Alban wrote: Fri Jul 12, 2024 8:15 pm Is the USA match available on rugbypass tonight, should I randomly find myself in the Netherlands again?

Yes, that still works.

Yr Alban wrote: Fri Jul 12, 2024 8:16 pm

KingBlairhorn wrote: Fri Jul 12, 2024 8:15 pm

Yr Alban wrote: Fri Jul 12, 2024 8:05 pm It appears that the U20s are, this time, not fucking it up.

33-0 currently.

Hold your horses there, pretty sure they still have to play the winners of pool B to get promoted…it’s likely USA, who they should absolutely horse but you never know.

Yeah - I mean they’re not fucking up the crucial group match again

They’re having a decent go at fucking up the last few minutes. Fortunately they still have a big lead

Try to finish it. 46-10, good win.

On to the final.

clydecloggie wrote: Fri Jul 12, 2024 8:22 pm

Yr Alban wrote: Fri Jul 12, 2024 8:15 pm Is the USA match available on rugbypass tonight, should I randomly find myself in the Netherlands again?

Yes, that still works.

Would that not count as copyright theft ?

Biffer wrote: Fri Jul 12, 2024 8:31 pm Try to finish it. 46-10, good win.

On to the final.

Definitely a good win, that was supposed to be a really tough game and to be honest it was never in doubt. Japan had their wee purple patch but by then the game was well won and the changes had made it a bit disjointed.

KingBlairhorn wrote: Fri Jul 12, 2024 9:05 pm

Biffer wrote: Fri Jul 12, 2024 8:31 pm Try to finish it. 46-10, good win.

On to the final.

Definitely a good win, that was supposed to be a really tough game and to be honest it was never in doubt. Japan had their wee purple patch but by then the game was well won and the changes had made it a bit disjointed.

Foot definitely came off the gas as well. Kicking penalties just showed by that stage the Scots were managing the game knowing they've only got a 5 day turnaround to the final. If that had been the last game of the tournament I think they would have scored 60 or 70.

clydecloggie wrote: Fri Jul 12, 2024 8:22 pm

Yr Alban wrote: Fri Jul 12, 2024 8:15 pm Is the USA match available on rugbypass tonight, should I randomly find myself in the Netherlands again?

Yes, that still works.

Can’t find it

Eventually managed to make VIPbox work. Scotland were doing pretty well there but USA have had a good 10 mins. 21-7 right now

3 tries for Ashman. 28-7 HT.

Yr Alban wrote: Fri Jul 12, 2024 11:21 pm 3 tries for Ashman. 28-7 HT.

Once again he is scoring tries for fun, but his throwing is a bit ropey.

I'd far rather see Smith and Richardson at hooker in the South American matches, in the hope we might find someone who can hit his man in the line-out. It would be a thrilling addition to the squad.

charltom wrote: Fri Jul 12, 2024 11:25 pm

Yr Alban wrote: Fri Jul 12, 2024 11:21 pm 3 tries for Ashman. 28-7 HT.

Once again he is scoring tries for fun, but his throwing is a bit ropey.

I'd far rather see Smith and Richardson at hooker in the South American matches, in the hope we might find someone who can hit his man in the line-out. It would be a thrilling addition to the squad.

Someone mocked me on the Glasgow forum, they said Edinburgh's lineout was the second most successful in the league, therefore Edinburgh had something in the trophy cabinet.

My point is, it's not Ashman.

charltom wrote: Fri Jul 12, 2024 11:25 pm

Yr Alban wrote: Fri Jul 12, 2024 11:21 pm 3 tries for Ashman. 28-7 HT.

Once again he is scoring tries for fun, but his throwing is a bit ropey.

I'd far rather see Smith and Richardson at hooker in the South American matches, in the hope we might find someone who can hit his man in the line-out. It would be a thrilling addition to the squad.

He was at 90 odd % for lineouts in the league. Granted that first lost one looked like his fault but it's not him all the time.

Cherry was a percent or two behind btw.

Scotland looking pretty hot and bothered here… oh hold on, searing break by Rowe and Horne goes over. Despite some possible blocking and the pass looking questionably forward!

Really should be posting a higher score than this

US have been positively amateur

Never got out of 2nd gear, looked like they couldn't be arsed.

Final score 42-7. Workmanlike and routine really. They did look like they were going through the motions. I expect the temperature didn’t help.

Did we learn anything from that , I suspect not - some of those players would be better to be on a beach somewhere.

This should have been a proper development tour for fringe players.

The temp and humidity really showed, and to be fair it showed for both sides.

What would have counted as a good win? More than 7-42 away from home? I thought we were worth a bit more than that, but ultimately if you don't earn it you don't get it on the rugby park.

We didn't learn much more than we knew already, I don't think

Time to send a few of them on holiday. Let them rest for the long season ahead.

USA are not a good side and the Scctland players aren't having to get out of 1st gear. Nothing good can come from trotting Fagerson, Tuipulotolu and a couple others out in the next couple of games.

Congratulations to Finn and Emma on the birth of Skye Anna

Dogbert wrote: Sat Jul 13, 2024 12:33 am Did we learn anything from that , I suspect not - some of those players would be better to be on a beach somewhere.

This should have been a proper development tour for fringe players.

The issue with that would be that we might risk losing games like last night - which earned Toony a bunch of bad publicity 6 years ago. I don’t disagree though.

westport wrote: Sat Jul 13, 2024 8:09 am Congratulations to Finn and Emma on the birth of Skye Anna

Great news for the future of the Scottish women’s team. Could really do with them popping out a couple of boys now in order that Finns genetics can have an impact on the men’s game in the future

Watching, well half watching,22 year old Finn Baxter take on the All Blacks it struck me that Edinburgh need to offer Ollie Blyth-Lafftery a full time contract asap and make a point of readying him for professional rugby.
Whilst they are at it they can bring McVie, Douglas, McConnell and Currie along with the older Blyth-Lafferty too.

Our U20s back three look pretty good, though none are with Edinburgh. Thompson who impressed at 12 is with Watsonians.

edit, I forgot to mention Robbie Deans, who is also in Edinburgh's academy.

SomersetJock wrote: Sat Jul 13, 2024 10:17 am

westport wrote: Sat Jul 13, 2024 8:09 am Congratulations to Finn and Emma on the birth of Skye Anna

Great news for the future of the Scottish women’s team. Could really do with them popping out a couple of boys now in order that Finns genetics can have an impact on the men’s game in the future

Where was Skye actually born? We really don’t want another Fin Smith scenario.

Tichtheid wrote: Sat Jul 13, 2024 11:15 am Watching, well half watching,22 year old Finn Baxter take on the All Blacks it struck me that Edinburgh need to offer Ollie Blyth-Lafftery a full time contract asap and make a point of readying him for professional rugby.
Whilst they are at it they can bring McVie, Douglas, McConnell and Currie along with the older Blyth-Lafferty too.

Our U20s back three look pretty good, though none are with Edinburgh. Thompson who impressed at 12 is with Watsonians.

edit, I forgot to mention Robbie Deans, who is also in Edinburgh's academy.

Agreed. Ollie is barely old enough to play U20, but he’s developing like Zander Fagerson at a similar age and we need to make sure we make the most of him.

Summer Tour Update

Ben Afshar, Rob Carmichael and Fin Richardson, all uncapped, have joined up with the Scotland squad as development players and will train as part of the group for the remainder of the tour.

Glen Young will be flying home after injuring a pectoral muscle in training last week. The four others who will leave the squad are stand-off Ross Thompson, hooker Robbie Smith, tighthead prop Elliot Millar Mills and winger Ross McCann.

Looks like Healy will get game time against Chile / Uruguay

Since the summer tour of 2018, Scotland men have scored 10 hat-tricks, averaging one every seven games played. The national side’s previous ten hat-tricks were spread over 92 years, at an average of one every 54 games.

More stats from USA v Scotland:

https://www.scotlandrugbynews.com/analy ... r-win-usa/

Scotland Men U20 team to face USA U20 on Wednesday 17 July at Hive Stadium, Edinburgh (kick off 7.45pm, live on BBC ALBA)

15. Fergus Watson (Glasgow Warriors)

14. Finlay Doyle (Loughborough University)
13. Johnny Ventisei (Glasgow Warriors)
12. Findlay Thomson (Watsonians)
11. Geordie Gwynn (Ealing Trailfinders/Brunel University) – Vice-captain

10. Andrew McLean (Boroughmuir Bears)
9. Conor McAlpine (Watsonians)

1. Robbie Deans (Edinburgh Rugby)
2. Jerry Blyth-Lafferty (Edinburgh Rugby)
3. Ollie Blyth-Lafferty (Edinburgh Rugby)
4. Euan McVie (Edinburgh Rugby)
5.Ruaraidh Hart (Glasgow Warriors)
6. Liam McConnell (Edinburgh Rugby) – Captain
7. Freddy Douglas (Edinburgh Rugby)
8. Tom Currie (Edinburgh Rugby) – Vice-captain

Replacements
16. Seb Stephen (unattached)
17. Ben White (Biggar RFC)
18. Jake Shearer (Ayrshire Bulls)
19.Dylan Cockburn (Southern Knights/Melrose RFC)
20. Ollie Duncan (Edinburgh Rugby)
21. Hector Patterson (Edinburgh Rugby)
22. Kerr Yule (Glasgow Warriors)
23. Jack Hocking (Edinburgh Rugby)

Does this game get us into the main competition if we win?

Yes.

Am I right in thinking most of this squad will still be eligible next season?

Jock42 wrote: Wed Jul 17, 2024 5:33 pmYes.

Thank you! I have permission to watch from our wee holiday cottage in the arse end of nowhere

dkm57 wrote: Wed Jul 17, 2024 6:16 pm Am I right in thinking most of this squad will still be eligible next season?

Someone on TOL said 6 would definitely be available - the ones I know of are Ollie Blyth-Lafferty (my new favourite player), Freddy Douglas (a close second) and Tom Currie (tied with Douglas)

McConnell, for example, has played three seasons with the U20s, as will Douglas and O B-L.

edit, I think Ollie Duncan, the Edinburgh number 8 on the pine, is another who is only 18

Slick wrote: Wed Jul 17, 2024 6:28 pm

Jock42 wrote: Wed Jul 17, 2024 5:33 pmYes.

Thank you! I have permission to watch from our wee holiday cottage in the arse end of nowhere

Great place, been there often

Cracking start