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sockwithaticket wrote: Sat Apr 05, 2025 6:35 pm Inexperience there from Jegou, obvious rolling in the tackle.
A similar high tackle claim to the one that went against Benetton. They got it right this time.
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sockwithaticket wrote: Sat Apr 05, 2025 6:37 pm Oof, have certainly seen those given for the wrap around the neck regardless of player height.

The TMO corrected Piardi several times in that game, he could well have done so again there.
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sockwithaticket wrote: Sat Apr 05, 2025 6:37 pm Oof, have certainly seen those given for the wrap around the neck regardless of player height.
I'm okay with that: as long as the ref is consistent in application. My pet hate of ball carrier trying to go to ground got penalised this time.
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URC teams doing well. Let's hope Glasgow keep it up.
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OomStruisbaai wrote: Sat Apr 05, 2025 6:43 pm URC teams doing well. Let's hope Glasgow keep it up.
Yeah. The English teams' insistence of 6 slots which partially led to this clusterf**k format and everyone getting to this stage looking like an own goal now.
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Tichtheid wrote: Sat Apr 05, 2025 6:37 pm Munster incredibly lucky
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Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sat Apr 05, 2025 6:45 pm
OomStruisbaai wrote: Sat Apr 05, 2025 6:43 pm URC teams doing well. Let's hope Glasgow keep it up.
Yeah. The English teams' insistence of 6 slots which partially led to this clusterf**k format and everyone getting to this stage looking like an own goal now.
*8 slots, which probably is too many in a 10 team league, but it was insisted upon when we were a 13 team one. That said 2 of our lesser performers in the Prem this season were semi-finalists in Europe last season, in fact Saints were incredibly close to beating Leinster.

Regardless, however much EPCR might try to dress it up, the Round of 16 is a glorified pool stage, there are still plenty of teams there from all over that don't warrant progression.
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sockwithaticket wrote: Sat Apr 05, 2025 6:57 pm
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sat Apr 05, 2025 6:45 pm
OomStruisbaai wrote: Sat Apr 05, 2025 6:43 pm URC teams doing well. Let's hope Glasgow keep it up.
Yeah. The English teams' insistence of 6 slots which partially led to this clusterf**k format and everyone getting to this stage looking like an own goal now.
*8 slots, which probably is too many in a 10 team league, but it was insisted upon when we were a 13 team one. That said 2 of our lesser performers in the Prem this season were semi-finalists in Europe last season, in fact Saints were incredibly close to beating Leinster.

Regardless, however much EPCR might try to dress it up, the Round of 16 is a glorified pool stage, there are still plenty of teams there from all over that don't warrant progression.
Sorry. Typo. :oops:
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sockwithaticket wrote: Sat Apr 05, 2025 6:57 pm
Regardless, however much EPCR might try to dress it up, the Round of 16 is a glorified pool stage, there are still plenty of teams there from all over that don't warrant progression.
The QFs are when it becomes a proper competition, but you only get 1 week of buildup to what might be your biggest game of the season and probably no chance to arrange travel if you are away from home.
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robmatic wrote: Sat Apr 05, 2025 7:16 pm
sockwithaticket wrote: Sat Apr 05, 2025 6:57 pm
Regardless, however much EPCR might try to dress it up, the Round of 16 is a glorified pool stage, there are still plenty of teams there from all over that don't warrant progression.
The QFs are when it becomes a proper competition, but you only get 1 week of buildup to what might be your biggest game of the season and probably no chance to arrange travel if you are away from home.
The only way you make the pool games worthwhile, and therefore have any value for broadcasters is to have big teams vulnerable to being knocked out.

Spivs do not understand this.
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
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Biffer wrote: Sat Apr 05, 2025 7:19 pm
robmatic wrote: Sat Apr 05, 2025 7:16 pm
sockwithaticket wrote: Sat Apr 05, 2025 6:57 pm
Regardless, however much EPCR might try to dress it up, the Round of 16 is a glorified pool stage, there are still plenty of teams there from all over that don't warrant progression.
The QFs are when it becomes a proper competition, but you only get 1 week of buildup to what might be your biggest game of the season and probably no chance to arrange travel if you are away from home.
The only way you make the pool games worthwhile, and therefore have any value for broadcasters is to have big teams vulnerable to being knocked out.

Spivs do not understand this.


Scotland supply two teams of poaches to the show. Two.

You need us far more than we need you.

Wind your chins in.
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Exceptionally weak reffing in the Glasgow game so far
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Kawazaki wrote: Sat Apr 05, 2025 7:31 pm
Biffer wrote: Sat Apr 05, 2025 7:19 pm
robmatic wrote: Sat Apr 05, 2025 7:16 pm

The QFs are when it becomes a proper competition, but you only get 1 week of buildup to what might be your biggest game of the season and probably no chance to arrange travel if you are away from home.
The only way you make the pool games worthwhile, and therefore have any value for broadcasters is to have big teams vulnerable to being knocked out.

Spivs do not understand this.


Scotland supply two teams of poaches to the show. Two.

You need us far more than we need you.

Wind your chins in.
You are such a hilariously stereotypical English rugby gammon
All the money you made will never buy back your soul
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Slick wrote: Sat Apr 05, 2025 7:35 pm
Kawazaki wrote: Sat Apr 05, 2025 7:31 pm
Biffer wrote: Sat Apr 05, 2025 7:19 pm

The only way you make the pool games worthwhile, and therefore have any value for broadcasters is to have big teams vulnerable to being knocked out.

Spivs do not understand this.


Scotland supply two teams of poaches to the show. Two.

You need us far more than we need you.

Wind your chins in.
You are such a hilariously stereotypical English rugby gammon
Edinburgh delighted to find out they are actually playing in the champions cup.
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Slick wrote: Sat Apr 05, 2025 7:35 pm
Kawazaki wrote: Sat Apr 05, 2025 7:31 pm
Biffer wrote: Sat Apr 05, 2025 7:19 pm

The only way you make the pool games worthwhile, and therefore have any value for broadcasters is to have big teams vulnerable to being knocked out.

Spivs do not understand this.


Scotland supply two teams of poaches to the show. Two.

You need us far more than we need you.

Wind your chins in.
You are such a hilariously stereotypical English rugby gammon
Ohh, beautifully put. 😂
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Slick wrote: Sat Apr 05, 2025 7:35 pm
Kawazaki wrote: Sat Apr 05, 2025 7:31 pm
Biffer wrote: Sat Apr 05, 2025 7:19 pm

The only way you make the pool games worthwhile, and therefore have any value for broadcasters is to have big teams vulnerable to being knocked out.

Spivs do not understand this.


Scotland supply two teams of poaches to the show. Two.

You need us far more than we need you.

Wind your chini in.
You are such a hilariously stereotypical English rugby gammon
Well played sir, I have th cunt on ignore otherwise I wouldn't have seen his Billy Brit John Bull style shut in his own mouth posting.
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
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Today proves the point, the English Prem is overhyped, a significant level below the URC and T14...but the commentators continue to wank themselves blind over it.
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We were reliably informed that Ireland's attack had gone to shit because of Nienaber.
Yet Leinster did ok ish on attack today.
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Chilli2 wrote: Sat Apr 05, 2025 8:15 pm We were reliably informed that Ireland's attack had gone to shit because of Nienaber.
Yet Leinster did ok ish on attack today.
TBF Quins were really poor - they didn't put Leinster under any pressure at all. You can't sit back and just let them attack you - ended up being a glorified training run
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ASMO wrote: Sat Apr 05, 2025 8:06 pm Today proves the point, the English Prem is overhyped, a significant level below the URC and T14...but the commentators continue to wank themselves blind over it.
Other than Leinster, no URC side has made the semis since the 18/19 season (Munster). Just last season the Prem contributed Quins and Saints to the semis, neither of whom embarassed themselves (particularly Saints who were only 3 points off their opponents Leinster) and the season prior it was Exeter. Exeter and Sarries have both represented the Prem at that level and in the final during the seasons where the URC was just providing Leinster.

Don't go getting too worked up over one poor year in the Round of 16.
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sockwithaticket wrote: Sat Apr 05, 2025 8:28 pm Tigers :sick:
ASMO wrote: Sat Apr 05, 2025 8:06 pm Today proves the point, the English Prem is overhyped, a significant level below the URC and T14...but the commentators continue to wank themselves blind over it.
Other than Leinster, no URC side has made the semis since the 18/19 season (Munster). Just last season the Prem contributed Quins and Saints to the semis, neither of whom embarassed themselves (particularly Saints who were only 3 points off their opponents Leinster) and the season prior it was Exeter. Exeter and Sarries have both represented the Prem at that level and in the final during the seasons where the URC was just providing Leinster.

Don't go getting too worked up over one poor year in the Round of 16.
The French can reliably supply 3-4x teams you can see winning it, the URC 1x, the Prem ~2x

It's just Saints at the mo from the Prem, because Exeter is on the decline, & Sarries can't cheat the salary cap anymore, but I can see Bath becoming #2 until they get caught fiddling the books again.
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fishfoodie wrote: Sat Apr 05, 2025 8:35 pm
sockwithaticket wrote: Sat Apr 05, 2025 8:28 pm Tigers :sick:
ASMO wrote: Sat Apr 05, 2025 8:06 pm Today proves the point, the English Prem is overhyped, a significant level below the URC and T14...but the commentators continue to wank themselves blind over it.
Other than Leinster, no URC side has made the semis since the 18/19 season (Munster). Just last season the Prem contributed Quins and Saints to the semis, neither of whom embarassed themselves (particularly Saints who were only 3 points off their opponents Leinster) and the season prior it was Exeter. Exeter and Sarries have both represented the Prem at that level and in the final during the seasons where the URC was just providing Leinster.

Don't go getting too worked up over one poor year in the Round of 16.
The French can reliably supply 3-4x teams you can see winning it, the URC 1x, the Prem ~2x

It's just Saints at the mo from the Prem, because Exeter is on the decline, & Sarries can't cheat the salary cap anymore, but I can see Bath becoming #2 until they get caught fiddling the books again.


Saracens won 3x ECs spending a fraction of what the French clubs and Leinster were spending.

Which was nice.
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Jamie Dobie, for a scrum half, looks like a very good winger
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Kawazaki wrote: Sat Apr 05, 2025 8:43 pm
fishfoodie wrote: Sat Apr 05, 2025 8:35 pm
sockwithaticket wrote: Sat Apr 05, 2025 8:28 pm Tigers :sick:



Other than Leinster, no URC side has made the semis since the 18/19 season (Munster). Just last season the Prem contributed Quins and Saints to the semis, neither of whom embarassed themselves (particularly Saints who were only 3 points off their opponents Leinster) and the season prior it was Exeter. Exeter and Sarries have both represented the Prem at that level and in the final during the seasons where the URC was just providing Leinster.

Don't go getting too worked up over one poor year in the Round of 16.
The French can reliably supply 3-4x teams you can see winning it, the URC 1x, the Prem ~2x

It's just Saints at the mo from the Prem, because Exeter is on the decline, & Sarries can't cheat the salary cap anymore, but I can see Bath becoming #2 until they get caught fiddling the books again.


Saracens won 3x ECs spending a fraction of what the French clubs and Leinster were spending.

Which was nice.
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Kawazaki wrote: Sat Apr 05, 2025 7:31 pm
Biffer wrote: Sat Apr 05, 2025 7:19 pm
robmatic wrote: Sat Apr 05, 2025 7:16 pm

The QFs are when it becomes a proper competition, but you only get 1 week of buildup to what might be your biggest game of the season and probably no chance to arrange travel if you are away from home.
The only way you make the pool games worthwhile, and therefore have any value for broadcasters is to have big teams vulnerable to being knocked out.

Spivs do not understand this.


Scotland supply two teams of poaches to the show. Two.

You need us far more than we need you.

Wind your chins in.
I’m sure we are all grateful for the cannon fodder you have provided today, but not sure we need you for that
All the money you made will never buy back your soul
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Slick wrote: Sat Apr 05, 2025 8:50 pm
Kawazaki wrote: Sat Apr 05, 2025 8:43 pm
fishfoodie wrote: Sat Apr 05, 2025 8:35 pm

The French can reliably supply 3-4x teams you can see winning it, the URC 1x, the Prem ~2x

It's just Saints at the mo from the Prem, because Exeter is on the decline, & Sarries can't cheat the salary cap anymore, but I can see Bath becoming #2 until they get caught fiddling the books again.


Saracens won 3x ECs spending a fraction of what the French clubs and Leinster were spending.

Which was nice.
If you believe that I’ve got a property to sell you as a joint venture


I can go to companies house and read it. That's how secret Saracens were.

So much bullshit.
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fishfoodie wrote: Sat Apr 05, 2025 8:35 pm
sockwithaticket wrote: Sat Apr 05, 2025 8:28 pm Tigers :sick:
ASMO wrote: Sat Apr 05, 2025 8:06 pm Today proves the point, the English Prem is overhyped, a significant level below the URC and T14...but the commentators continue to wank themselves blind over it.
Other than Leinster, no URC side has made the semis since the 18/19 season (Munster). Just last season the Prem contributed Quins and Saints to the semis, neither of whom embarassed themselves (particularly Saints who were only 3 points off their opponents Leinster) and the season prior it was Exeter. Exeter and Sarries have both represented the Prem at that level and in the final during the seasons where the URC was just providing Leinster.

Don't go getting too worked up over one poor year in the Round of 16.
The French can reliably supply 3-4x teams you can see winning it, the URC 1x, the Prem ~2x

It's just Saints at the mo from the Prem, because Exeter is on the decline, & Sarries can't cheat the salary cap anymore, but I can see Bath becoming #2 until they get caught fiddling the books again.
The URC is very competitive this year. Improved a lot since 3 years ago.
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Did Saracens not get relegated for cheating?

I thought they took that rather than open their books properly.
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Slick wrote: Sat Apr 05, 2025 8:53 pm
Kawazaki wrote: Sat Apr 05, 2025 7:31 pm
Biffer wrote: Sat Apr 05, 2025 7:19 pm

The only way you make the pool games worthwhile, and therefore have any value for broadcasters is to have big teams vulnerable to being knocked out.

Spivs do not understand this.


Scotland supply two teams of poaches to the show. Two.

You need us far more than we need you.

Wind your chins in.
I’m sure we are all grateful for the cannon fodder you have provided today, but not sure we need you for that


Who else are you going to play?

The Glasgow Southern Hemisphere Warriors are doing ok. Let's see what you win at the end of the season. I'm guessing fuck all but who knows.
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ASMO wrote: Sat Apr 05, 2025 8:06 pm Today proves the point, the English Prem is overhyped, a significant level below the URC and T14...but the commentators continue to wank themselves blind over it.
It's entertaining enough to watch in itself in fairness. Plenty of teams playing positive rugby.
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Kawazaki wrote: Sat Apr 05, 2025 8:57 pm
Slick wrote: Sat Apr 05, 2025 8:53 pm
Kawazaki wrote: Sat Apr 05, 2025 7:31 pm



Scotland supply two teams of poaches to the show. Two.

You need us far more than we need you.

Wind your chins in.
I’m sure we are all grateful for the cannon fodder you have provided today, but not sure we need you for that


Who else are you going to play?

The Glasgow Southern Hemisphere Warriors are doing ok. Let's see what you win at the end of the season. I'm guessing fuck all but who knows.
At some point it’s time to stop thrashing about, but I’ll leave that for you to decide
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Kawazaki wrote: Sat Apr 05, 2025 8:43 pm
fishfoodie wrote: Sat Apr 05, 2025 8:35 pm
sockwithaticket wrote: Sat Apr 05, 2025 8:28 pm Tigers :sick:



Other than Leinster, no URC side has made the semis since the 18/19 season (Munster). Just last season the Prem contributed Quins and Saints to the semis, neither of whom embarassed themselves (particularly Saints who were only 3 points off their opponents Leinster) and the season prior it was Exeter. Exeter and Sarries have both represented the Prem at that level and in the final during the seasons where the URC was just providing Leinster.

Don't go getting too worked up over one poor year in the Round of 16.
The French can reliably supply 3-4x teams you can see winning it, the URC 1x, the Prem ~2x

It's just Saints at the mo from the Prem, because Exeter is on the decline, & Sarries can't cheat the salary cap anymore, but I can see Bath becoming #2 until they get caught fiddling the books again.


Saracens won 3x ECs spending a fraction of what the French clubs and Leinster were spending.

Which was nice.
Nice fishing fishie.
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OomStruisbaai wrote: Sat Apr 05, 2025 8:54 pm
fishfoodie wrote: Sat Apr 05, 2025 8:35 pm
sockwithaticket wrote: Sat Apr 05, 2025 8:28 pm Tigers :sick:



Other than Leinster, no URC side has made the semis since the 18/19 season (Munster). Just last season the Prem contributed Quins and Saints to the semis, neither of whom embarassed themselves (particularly Saints who were only 3 points off their opponents Leinster) and the season prior it was Exeter. Exeter and Sarries have both represented the Prem at that level and in the final during the seasons where the URC was just providing Leinster.

Don't go getting too worked up over one poor year in the Round of 16.
The French can reliably supply 3-4x teams you can see winning it, the URC 1x, the Prem ~2x

It's just Saints at the mo from the Prem, because Exeter is on the decline, & Sarries can't cheat the salary cap anymore, but I can see Bath becoming #2 until they get caught fiddling the books again.
The URC is very competitive this year. Improved a lot since 3 years ago.
Yeah, the English & French teams hated the old format because Leinster could rest their top line players in some games in the League, & then roll them out in peak condition for the European games, & that was happening.

The thing is that the French teams were always capable of doing the same thing, because their rosters are just so big & strong; but only a couple of the English teams ever had that depth.

How has Leinster reacted to the newer, more competitive URC ? .... they still rest their best players, but they now have a B-Team that is bloody good in it's own right, as they showed in SA; & they're still on top of the league !

It was great to see Munster getting a bit of dog back in their game, & Beirne was unbelievable; there was real intent in his tackles

I'm going to break the habit of a lifetime & say a prayer for Ulster tonight, because Bordeaux, if they want, can make you look very, very bad, & it's almost cruel.
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Chilli2 wrote: Sat Apr 05, 2025 8:15 pm We were reliably informed that Ireland's attack had gone to shit because of Nienaber.
Yet Leinster did ok ish on attack today.
Because their pack munched quins. Match a team up front and it's not a free ride in the backline.
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Slick wrote: Sat Apr 05, 2025 9:23 pm
Kawazaki wrote: Sat Apr 05, 2025 8:57 pm
Slick wrote: Sat Apr 05, 2025 8:53 pm

I’m sure we are all grateful for the cannon fodder you have provided today, but not sure we need you for that


Who else are you going to play?

The Glasgow Southern Hemisphere Warriors are doing ok. Let's see what you win at the end of the season. I'm guessing fuck all but who knows.
At some point it’s time to stop thrashing about, but I’ll leave that for you to decide

Who's interests does the EC serve in its current format?
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fishfoodie wrote: Sat Apr 05, 2025 8:35 pm
sockwithaticket wrote: Sat Apr 05, 2025 8:28 pm Tigers :sick:
ASMO wrote: Sat Apr 05, 2025 8:06 pm Today proves the point, the English Prem is overhyped, a significant level below the URC and T14...but the commentators continue to wank themselves blind over it.
Other than Leinster, no URC side has made the semis since the 18/19 season (Munster). Just last season the Prem contributed Quins and Saints to the semis, neither of whom embarassed themselves (particularly Saints who were only 3 points off their opponents Leinster) and the season prior it was Exeter. Exeter and Sarries have both represented the Prem at that level and in the final during the seasons where the URC was just providing Leinster.

Don't go getting too worked up over one poor year in the Round of 16.
The French can reliably supply 3-4x teams you can see winning it, the URC 1x, the Prem ~2x

It's just Saints at the mo from the Prem, because Exeter is on the decline, & Sarries can't cheat the salary cap anymore, but I can see Bath becoming #2 until they get caught fiddling the books again.
Weird thing about Saints is, they're going well in Europe and pretty poorly in the Premiership.

It does seem like we're in the midst of a changing of the guard right now with who the dominant powers are in the league.
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