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Is this a Scotland top? And if so, what is green doing on it? (I have no sectarian issue against green, just can’t see any relevance)Jock42 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2024 10:24 am The original post on pussbook seems to have disappeared too. It's a pin stripe shirt with white and green cuffs, white and green collar and a st Andrews cross randomly thrown in at the front of the neck line. Arnold Clark is in white at least.
Looks like a cheap football top.
Yup. I assume the shite ad has been leaked as the official release is Friday.Yr Alban wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2024 6:13 pmIs this a Scotland top? And if so, what is green doing on it? (I have no sectarian issue against green, just can’t see any relevance)Jock42 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2024 10:24 am The original post on pussbook seems to have disappeared too. It's a pin stripe shirt with white and green cuffs, white and green collar and a st Andrews cross randomly thrown in at the front of the neck line. Arnold Clark is in white at least.
Looks like a cheap football top.
The pattern is:
When it comes to football, I am a Middlesbrough fan and we go through exactly the same process with our kits. Everyone prefers the classic home shirt, which is red with a white band across the chest, but the club always rotates it with couple of seasons of shirts with a random white trim that the habitual buyers get anyway.KingBlairhorn wrote: ↑Thu Aug 01, 2024 8:49 amThe pattern is:
Release three or four different/terrible (depending on opinion) shirts in a row. People who always buy shirts buy them. People who rarely buy shirts and wouldn’t buy one every year anyway don’t.
Release a classic look shirt and everyone says it’s a banger. People who buy the shirt every year buy them anyway. People who rarely buy a shirt buy one, feeling justified because it’s a banger.
Repeat.
I didn't see him play much because for once I didn't get the time to watch much prem rugby last season, but he was deemed good enough to start 10 times out of his 14 appearances last season, including Champions Cup and in the league.Big D wrote: ↑Fri Aug 02, 2024 9:02 am Matt Scott potentially returning to Edinburgh. If this is anything other than very low cost and "break glass in emergency" then it is a poor signing. He's 34 by the time the season starts and shouldn't 5th centre really be a role that a younger player can fill?
Don't have a problem if it is low cost and it won't impact Curries playing time at 13 given Lang now he is fit and Tuipulotu will likely take the minutes at 12. Would like to see Hocking introduced too.Tichtheid wrote: ↑Fri Aug 02, 2024 10:11 amI didn't see him play much because for once I didn't get the time to watch much prem rugby last season, but he was deemed good enough to start 10 times out of his 14 appearances last season, including Champions Cup and in the league.Big D wrote: ↑Fri Aug 02, 2024 9:02 am Matt Scott potentially returning to Edinburgh. If this is anything other than very low cost and "break glass in emergency" then it is a poor signing. He's 34 by the time the season starts and shouldn't 5th centre really be a role that a younger player can fill?
He should never have been let go, he was Edinburgh best performing centre at the time, imo. Anyway that's a long time ago now. I think he brings a huge amount of experience with him, hopefully that will rub off on the likes of Matt Currie and Mosese Tuipulotu, even if it's just in training.
As far as I remember the Scotland U20s centres aren't in the Edinburgh academy, one is with Glasgow and the other from the final is with Watsons, Findlay Thompson. I thought he was worth a look to be fair, he's a big ball carrying 12, he's just turned 20. I hope Edinburgh do keep an eye on him. The fact that he came up through my old school and home town club has nothing to do with my support for him :-)
The move signals a third spell in the capital for the Dunfermline-born former Currie man, whose professional rugby journey began at the club as an academy player in 2011 and has included 40 international caps for his country.
A near-centurion, Scott has made 94 appearances for Edinburgh to date, earned either side of a two-season spell at Gloucester Rugby – playing for the Cherry & Whites 34 times – before returning south to join Tigers in 2020.
It was there Scott scored 15 tries in 80 appearances, which included a place in the 2022 Premiership Rugby final as Tigers beat Saracens 15–12 to take the trophy.
Scott brings a wealth of experience to the backline and will play a key mentorship role to young centres Matt Currie and Mosese Tuipulotu (both 23), as well as the up-and-coming backs joining the club’s expanded academy, which will be announced in the coming weeks.
Just looks like a football shirt. One for the fannies.KingBlairhorn wrote: ↑Thu Aug 01, 2024 8:49 amThe pattern is:
Release three or four different/terrible (depending on opinion) shirts in a row. People who always buy shirts buy them. People who rarely buy shirts and wouldn’t buy one every year anyway don’t.
Release a classic look shirt and everyone says it’s a banger. People who buy the shirt every year buy them anyway. People who rarely buy a shirt buy one, feeling justified because it’s a banger.
Repeat.
Am I being fanciful in suggesting they're trying to secure him into the coaching programme? Wouldn't be surprised to see him as HC of a Scottish premiership club in a year or two, or on the U20 or Women's international staffTichtheid wrote: ↑Fri Aug 02, 2024 1:04 pm Scott confirmed
The move signals a third spell in the capital for the Dunfermline-born former Currie man, whose professional rugby journey began at the club as an academy player in 2011 and has included 40 international caps for his country.
A near-centurion, Scott has made 94 appearances for Edinburgh to date, earned either side of a two-season spell at Gloucester Rugby – playing for the Cherry & Whites 34 times – before returning south to join Tigers in 2020.
It was there Scott scored 15 tries in 80 appearances, which included a place in the 2022 Premiership Rugby final as Tigers beat Saracens 15–12 to take the trophy.
Scott brings a wealth of experience to the backline and will play a key mentorship role to young centres Matt Currie and Mosese Tuipulotu (both 23), as well as the up-and-coming backs joining the club’s expanded academy, which will be announced in the coming weeks.
Biffer wrote: ↑Fri Aug 02, 2024 8:26 pmAm I being fanciful in suggesting they're trying to secure him into the coaching programme? Wouldn't be surprised to see him as HC of a Scottish premiership club in a year or two, or on the U20 or Women's international staffTichtheid wrote: ↑Fri Aug 02, 2024 1:04 pm Scott confirmed
The move signals a third spell in the capital for the Dunfermline-born former Currie man, whose professional rugby journey began at the club as an academy player in 2011 and has included 40 international caps for his country.
A near-centurion, Scott has made 94 appearances for Edinburgh to date, earned either side of a two-season spell at Gloucester Rugby – playing for the Cherry & Whites 34 times – before returning south to join Tigers in 2020.
It was there Scott scored 15 tries in 80 appearances, which included a place in the 2022 Premiership Rugby final as Tigers beat Saracens 15–12 to take the trophy.
Scott brings a wealth of experience to the backline and will play a key mentorship role to young centres Matt Currie and Mosese Tuipulotu (both 23), as well as the up-and-coming backs joining the club’s expanded academy, which will be announced in the coming weeks.
The only issue I have with this is that it necessitated punting Chris Dean, who I feel was under-utilised by Everitt last season when we were unconvincing in the centres.Tichtheid wrote: ↑Fri Aug 02, 2024 1:04 pm Scott confirmed
The move signals a third spell in the capital for the Dunfermline-born former Currie man, whose professional rugby journey began at the club as an academy player in 2011 and has included 40 international caps for his country.
A near-centurion, Scott has made 94 appearances for Edinburgh to date, earned either side of a two-season spell at Gloucester Rugby – playing for the Cherry & Whites 34 times – before returning south to join Tigers in 2020.
It was there Scott scored 15 tries in 80 appearances, which included a place in the 2022 Premiership Rugby final as Tigers beat Saracens 15–12 to take the trophy.
Scott brings a wealth of experience to the backline and will play a key mentorship role to young centres Matt Currie and Mosese Tuipulotu (both 23), as well as the up-and-coming backs joining the club’s expanded academy, which will be announced in the coming weeks.
robmatic wrote: ↑Sat Aug 03, 2024 8:08 amThe only issue I have with this is that it necessitated punting Chris Dean, who I feel was under-utilised by Everitt last season when we were unconvincing in the centres.Tichtheid wrote: ↑Fri Aug 02, 2024 1:04 pm Scott confirmed
The move signals a third spell in the capital for the Dunfermline-born former Currie man, whose professional rugby journey began at the club as an academy player in 2011 and has included 40 international caps for his country.
A near-centurion, Scott has made 94 appearances for Edinburgh to date, earned either side of a two-season spell at Gloucester Rugby – playing for the Cherry & Whites 34 times – before returning south to join Tigers in 2020.
It was there Scott scored 15 tries in 80 appearances, which included a place in the 2022 Premiership Rugby final as Tigers beat Saracens 15–12 to take the trophy.
Scott brings a wealth of experience to the backline and will play a key mentorship role to young centres Matt Currie and Mosese Tuipulotu (both 23), as well as the up-and-coming backs joining the club’s expanded academy, which will be announced in the coming weeks.
What's this thing about an 'expanded academy'?
The 'extended academies' appear to be 7 additional places at Edinburgh (and presumably the same at Glasgow) and a slightly older player age-limit (U23).Tichtheid wrote: ↑Sat Aug 03, 2024 9:30 am
The extended academies are what’s taking the place of the Super 6 for the U20s and those who are just over 20 years old.
The big test will be in finding competitive fixtures for them.
Several of those should see some game time this season. Interesting they've name Hocking as a fb when they mentioned centre when he originally signed.westport wrote: ↑Wed Aug 07, 2024 2:32 pm Edinburgh Rugby Pro-Academy 2024/25
Jerry Blyth-Lafferty (hooker)
Ollie Blyth-Lafferty (tighthead prop)
Jack Brown (full-back)
Isaac Coates (fly-half)
Tom Currie (back-row)
Freddy Douglas (back-row)
Ollie Duncan (back-row)
Jack Hocking (full-back)
Mikey Jones (loosehead prop)
Sam Leweni (centre)
Christian Lindsay (lock)
Hamish MacArthur (scrum-half)
Conor McAlpine (scrum-half)
Liam McConnell (back-row)
Euan McVie (lock)
Nairn Moncrieff (winger)
Harri Morris (hooker)
Hector Patterson (scrum-half)
Mac Rutherford (lock)
Jamie Stewart (loosehead prop)
Findlay Thomson (centre)
Lewis Wells (winger)
Ross Wolfenden (fly-half)
Is this part of the S6 replacement or just the normal academy? Do they have academy games?westport wrote: ↑Wed Aug 07, 2024 2:32 pm Edinburgh Rugby Pro-Academy 2024/25
Jerry Blyth-Lafferty (hooker)
Ollie Blyth-Lafferty (tighthead prop)
Jack Brown (full-back)
Isaac Coates (fly-half)
Tom Currie (back-row)
Freddy Douglas (back-row)
Ollie Duncan (back-row)
Jack Hocking (full-back)
Mikey Jones (loosehead prop)
Sam Leweni (centre)
Christian Lindsay (lock)
Hamish MacArthur (scrum-half)
Conor McAlpine (scrum-half)
Liam McConnell (back-row)
Euan McVie (lock)
Nairn Moncrieff (winger)
Harri Morris (hooker)
Hector Patterson (scrum-half)
Mac Rutherford (lock)
Jamie Stewart (loosehead prop)
Findlay Thomson (centre)
Lewis Wells (winger)
Ross Wolfenden (fly-half)
Extended academy (Glasgow the same). They're looking for 'A' fixtures. They've also gone back to the draft with some (all?) of these players going to premier sides.Slick wrote: ↑Wed Aug 07, 2024 2:59 pmIs this part of the S6 replacement or just the normal academy? Do they have academy games?westport wrote: ↑Wed Aug 07, 2024 2:32 pm Edinburgh Rugby Pro-Academy 2024/25
Jerry Blyth-Lafferty (hooker)
Ollie Blyth-Lafferty (tighthead prop)
Jack Brown (full-back)
Isaac Coates (fly-half)
Tom Currie (back-row)
Freddy Douglas (back-row)
Ollie Duncan (back-row)
Jack Hocking (full-back)
Mikey Jones (loosehead prop)
Sam Leweni (centre)
Christian Lindsay (lock)
Hamish MacArthur (scrum-half)
Conor McAlpine (scrum-half)
Liam McConnell (back-row)
Euan McVie (lock)
Nairn Moncrieff (winger)
Harri Morris (hooker)
Hector Patterson (scrum-half)
Mac Rutherford (lock)
Jamie Stewart (loosehead prop)
Findlay Thomson (centre)
Lewis Wells (winger)
Ross Wolfenden (fly-half)
Ahh good, thanksJock42 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 07, 2024 3:02 pmExtended academy (Glasgow the same). They're looking for 'A' fixtures. They've also gone back to the draft with some (all?) of these players going to premier sides.Slick wrote: ↑Wed Aug 07, 2024 2:59 pmIs this part of the S6 replacement or just the normal academy? Do they have academy games?westport wrote: ↑Wed Aug 07, 2024 2:32 pm Edinburgh Rugby Pro-Academy 2024/25
Jerry Blyth-Lafferty (hooker)
Ollie Blyth-Lafferty (tighthead prop)
Jack Brown (full-back)
Isaac Coates (fly-half)
Tom Currie (back-row)
Freddy Douglas (back-row)
Ollie Duncan (back-row)
Jack Hocking (full-back)
Mikey Jones (loosehead prop)
Sam Leweni (centre)
Christian Lindsay (lock)
Hamish MacArthur (scrum-half)
Conor McAlpine (scrum-half)
Liam McConnell (back-row)
Euan McVie (lock)
Nairn Moncrieff (winger)
Harri Morris (hooker)
Hector Patterson (scrum-half)
Mac Rutherford (lock)
Jamie Stewart (loosehead prop)
Findlay Thomson (centre)
Lewis Wells (winger)
Ross Wolfenden (fly-half)
At least the Prem clubs are back as the pinnacle of rugby in Scotland, which was the most important thing.KingBlairhorn wrote: ↑Tue Aug 06, 2024 12:57 pm
The 'extended academies' appear to be 7 additional places at Edinburgh (and presumably the same at Glasgow) and a slightly older player age-limit (U23).
There will be more 'A' fixtures (not yet arranged).
There will be a pro draft to Prem teams (that thing they did before that was pretty unsuccessful).
Altogether I am, unsurprisingly, not whelmed.
I said when Dodson got the heave-ho that we might live to regret it and nothing coming out of Murrayfield since has convinced me otherwise. Dodson was a walking epitome of hubris, but he was also a pretty competent administrator. The new crowd seem to be more of the former and less of the latter.
KingBlairhorn wrote: ↑Wed Aug 14, 2024 10:24 am Premier Sports confirmed as having the Champions Cup (and Challenge Cup) this season. Good news for those of us who already have a prem sports subscription but don’t want to shell out megabucks for TNT/Sky to give all my money to English football.
Edit: it’s the next 3 years and they will show every fixture.
It's fair enough to say that having two competitions on two separate subscriptions is a pain, but that's what they are - separate competitions with seperate negotiations. It was bound to happen sooner or later that they'd end up on different broadcasters. I'm just glad the extortionate sky aren't involved.Tichtheid wrote: ↑Wed Aug 14, 2024 10:31 amKingBlairhorn wrote: ↑Wed Aug 14, 2024 10:24 am Premier Sports confirmed as having the Champions Cup (and Challenge Cup) this season. Good news for those of us who already have a prem sports subscription but don’t want to shell out megabucks for TNT/Sky to give all my money to English football.
Edit: it’s the next 3 years and they will show every fixture.
The Torygraph is describing it as a "blow" to English fans, the Times is complaining that those English fans will now have to fork out for two subscriptions in order to watch European as well as domestic rugby.
Hrmmm.
Yeah, my point was really that Scots, Welsh I assume Irish supporters have had to subscribe to two providers for several years now. I agree it's a pain.inactionman wrote: ↑Wed Aug 14, 2024 10:52 amIt's fair enough to say that having two competitions on two separate subscriptions is a pain, but that's what they are - separate competitions with seperate negotiations.Tichtheid wrote: ↑Wed Aug 14, 2024 10:31 amKingBlairhorn wrote: ↑Wed Aug 14, 2024 10:24 am Premier Sports confirmed as having the Champions Cup (and Challenge Cup) this season. Good news for those of us who already have a prem sports subscription but don’t want to shell out megabucks for TNT/Sky to give all my money to English football.
Edit: it’s the next 3 years and they will show every fixture.
The Torygraph is describing it as a "blow" to English fans, the Times is complaining that those English fans will now have to fork out for two subscriptions in order to watch European as well as domestic rugby.
Hrmmm.
Because I'm overseas in a territory where rugby isn't broadcast, for the last few years I've been using the international streaming service for each competition and to be honest I prefer that to shelling out for an expensive sports package with a bunch of stuff I don't want included. Last season, I paid $100 to get all the URC games and another 50 euros or something for European rugby and that was basically plenty of rugby for me.inactionman wrote: ↑Wed Aug 14, 2024 10:52 amIt's fair enough to say that having two competitions on two separate subscriptions is a pain, but that's what they are - separate competitions with seperate negotiations. It was bound to happen sooner or later that they'd end up on different broadcasters. I'm just glad the extortionate sky aren't involved.Tichtheid wrote: ↑Wed Aug 14, 2024 10:31 amKingBlairhorn wrote: ↑Wed Aug 14, 2024 10:24 am Premier Sports confirmed as having the Champions Cup (and Challenge Cup) this season. Good news for those of us who already have a prem sports subscription but don’t want to shell out megabucks for TNT/Sky to give all my money to English football.
Edit: it’s the next 3 years and they will show every fixture.
The Torygraph is describing it as a "blow" to English fans, the Times is complaining that those English fans will now have to fork out for two subscriptions in order to watch European as well as domestic rugby.
Hrmmm.
I'd really prefer a 'pay-as-you-go' approach and just pay a small fee for each game you want to watch, so it doesn't matter who is airing it, but nowTV did that and made it ridiculous by charging a tenner for the day.
This is very good news. Just have to find something for the family to do.KingBlairhorn wrote: ↑Wed Aug 14, 2024 10:24 am Premier Sports confirmed as having the Champions Cup (and Challenge Cup) this season. Good news for those of us who already have a prem sports subscription but don’t want to shell out megabucks for TNT/Sky to give all my money to English football.
Edit: it’s the next 3 years and they will show every fixture.
That's the dream thought - I'd love an 'oval ball' channel with Rugby, NFL, US college football, Aussies rules, I'd even put up with rugby league being on there.Tichtheid wrote: ↑Wed Aug 14, 2024 11:06 amYeah, my point was really that Scots, Welsh I assume Irish supporters have had to subscribe to two providers for several years now. I agree it's a pain.inactionman wrote: ↑Wed Aug 14, 2024 10:52 amIt's fair enough to say that having two competitions on two separate subscriptions is a pain, but that's what they are - separate competitions with seperate negotiations.
I've never actually checked this, but I saw a quote somewhere saying that the NFL pays for all other sports in the US in that the amount of money it brings in allows broadcasters to carry other sports. I get the feeling that is true of football in Europe, maybe, as I say I haven't checked.
BT stuffed us all by using sport as a loss-leader for a multi-billion pound broadband market in the UK, knowing that they would start charging in the future once they had subscribers, first it was a fiver a month, now it's thirty odd quid and of course it's TNT now.
I'm not at all convinced that rugby would bring in enough money on its own to allow for a rugby channel where we'd find all the competitions, it's difficult finding the breakdown of where the advertising revenue comes from that pays for the rights to cover the various sports.
Horrible