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average joe wrote: Wed Mar 23, 2022 7:33 am
OomStruisbaai wrote: Wed Mar 23, 2022 7:27 am
Chilli wrote: Wed Mar 23, 2022 7:06 am So that settles it then.
Some of us can braai. And some of us can't.
Roots of braai don't include fancy expensive equipment that Sards sell.

It's braai on the ground, stones around to prevent veld fires and the cheapest grill.

I can live with that.
A old stolen checkers trolley makes a great grill oom.
I love braaiing at the beach on the rocks. Just plain chops or wors with a broodjie. Use to do the veld kak aswell but the old rugby knees won't bend anymore and the stone won't clean the aanbeie.
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average joe wrote: Wed Mar 23, 2022 7:33 am
OomStruisbaai wrote: Wed Mar 23, 2022 7:27 am
Chilli wrote: Wed Mar 23, 2022 7:06 am So that settles it then.
Some of us can braai. And some of us can't.
Roots of braai don't include fancy expensive equipment that Sards sell.

It's braai on the ground, stones around to prevent veld fires and the cheapest grill.

I can live with that.
A old stolen checkers trolley makes a great grill oom.
The plastic tends to melt and ruin the fire and the flavour of the meat.
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Chilli wrote: Wed Mar 23, 2022 8:27 am
average joe wrote: Wed Mar 23, 2022 7:33 am
OomStruisbaai wrote: Wed Mar 23, 2022 7:27 am

Roots of braai don't include fancy expensive equipment that Sards sell.

It's braai on the ground, stones around to prevent veld fires and the cheapest grill.

I can live with that.
A old stolen checkers trolley makes a great grill oom.
The plastic tends to melt and ruin the fire and the flavour of the meat.
Ai, die kinders van vandag. Just like them, things use to be made of sturdier stuff in the past, not plastic.
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did some lamb koftas last weekend and they were good

first braaied with indirect heat in the weber before finishing them over the coals

mine turned out like these

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average joe wrote: Wed Mar 23, 2022 7:16 am Social media and reality TV has turned us all into a bunch of pussy's. I hate how every simple mundane thing from changing a light bulb to cooking on a fire gets glamorised these days.
Gone are the days were our fathers taught us these simple things. Now it's "google it" "watch a youtube video" and we all believe these lazy greedy pricks who call themselves "content creators"
Link please. For a friend.
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average joe wrote: Wed Mar 23, 2022 7:31 am It's like a tell my daughters, sometimes food is about getting your stomach full and not about how it looks or how it was prepared. People should fast sometimes just to get back to appreciating what food is really for.
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Monk wrote: Wed Mar 23, 2022 10:51 am did some lamb koftas last weekend and they were good

first braaied with indirect heat in the weber before finishing them over the coals

mine turned out like these

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Never did koftas before. Good?
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handyman wrote: Wed Mar 23, 2022 10:58 am
Monk wrote: Wed Mar 23, 2022 10:51 am did some lamb koftas last weekend and they were good

first braaied with indirect heat in the weber before finishing them over the coals

mine turned out like these

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Never did koftas before. Good?
tried first one recipe then another recipe a day or so later

both very good and easy to make

suggest you try various recipes to see which you prefer

on a skewer so lekker if you have people standing around snacking
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Monk wrote: Wed Mar 23, 2022 11:01 am
handyman wrote: Wed Mar 23, 2022 10:58 am
Monk wrote: Wed Mar 23, 2022 10:51 am did some lamb koftas last weekend and they were good

first braaied with indirect heat in the weber before finishing them over the coals

mine turned out like these

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Never did koftas before. Good?
tried first one recipe then a another recipe day or so later

both very good and easy to make

suggest you try various recipes to see which you prefer

on a skewer so lekker if you have people standing around snacking
Good stuff, Monk. Always nice to try new recipies. I've about 10 braai books that I'm working through. A bit hit and miss, but I've found a few great ones.
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handyman wrote: Wed Mar 23, 2022 11:05 am
Monk wrote: Wed Mar 23, 2022 11:01 am
handyman wrote: Wed Mar 23, 2022 10:58 am

Never did koftas before. Good?
tried first one recipe then a another recipe day or so later

both very good and easy to make

suggest you try various recipes to see which you prefer

on a skewer so lekker if you have people standing around snacking
Good stuff, Monk. Always nice to try new recipies. I've about 10 braai books that I'm working through. A bit hit and miss, but I've found a few great ones.

top tip - squeeze the fluid out of the grated onion before adding it to the mix
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assfly wrote: Wed Mar 23, 2022 10:52 am
average joe wrote: Wed Mar 23, 2022 7:16 am Social media and reality TV has turned us all into a bunch of pussy's. I hate how every simple mundane thing from changing a light bulb to cooking on a fire gets glamorised these days.
Gone are the days were our fathers taught us these simple things. Now it's "google it" "watch a youtube video" and we all believe these lazy greedy pricks who call themselves "content creators"
Link please. For a friend.


She sommer shows you how to change the whole thing. I hope the next one is a ceiling fitting, would be great if she could visually explain how to get up the ladder in a short skirt.
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Lamb shin pampoen (Hubert squash) pot with all the sport on klein saterdag. IF it don't rain. Some thunder around.
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OomStruisbaai wrote: Wed Mar 23, 2022 12:19 pm Lamb shin pampoen (Hubert squash) pot with all the sport on klein saterdag. IF it don't rain. Some thunder around.
Living the good life, enjoy oom!
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Monk wrote: Wed Mar 23, 2022 11:01 am
handyman wrote: Wed Mar 23, 2022 10:58 am
Monk wrote: Wed Mar 23, 2022 10:51 am did some lamb koftas last weekend and they were good

first braaied with indirect heat in the weber before finishing them over the coals

mine turned out like these

Image
Never did koftas before. Good?
tried first one recipe then another recipe a day or so later

both very good and easy to make

suggest you try various recipes to see which you prefer

on a skewer so lekker if you have people standing around snacking
Egyptian delicacy. If you live in one of the cities you get to know the areas where they pop up. They pull a screen between the flats as the roads are very narrow. Throw some tables and chairs in and then the braais. Voila. A restaurant. And the shisha pipes.
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I went for a braai at my kids friend's place the one day. Man the dudes garden was immaculate. I felt genuinely ashamed of my spot. At the braai he did everything to perfection. He took a lot of pride into what he did and the result showed. We obviously invited them to a return round but asked for time to get the garden in order first. Man this blokes lawn was immaculate. He trims the edges with a scissors. Who does that. He has a wall hung feeder garden where he grows from cuttings and seeds to plant in his garden. Everything is straight and tidy.

Lots of pressure on us. Luckily our garden is rustic. I don't have straight trees. They grow as they want . It's just to find time to tidy up. I see there is a Sunday cricket match. There goes another day that could have been put into the garden. At this rate it will never happen. I am fully confident I can produce a good product. Thinking a real crowd pleaser of wood fired pizza, and flat breads. And then chops. Pork. I have those to an art . With a potato bake on the coals just to show off.
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Pampoen pot stap lekker!
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Geez. My braai group has 3200 members. Its becoming hard work now.
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Sards wrote: Wed Mar 23, 2022 4:17 pm Geez. My braai group has 3200 members. Its becoming hard work now.
Which one is that?
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Sards wrote: Wed Mar 23, 2022 3:29 pm I went for a braai at my kids friend's place the one day. Man the dudes garden was immaculate. I felt genuinely ashamed of my spot. At the braai he did everything to perfection. He took a lot of pride into what he did and the result showed. We obviously invited them to a return round but asked for time to get the garden in order first. Man this blokes lawn was immaculate. He trims the edges with a scissors. Who does that. He has a wall hung feeder garden where he grows from cuttings and seeds to plant in his garden. Everything is straight and tidy.

Lots of pressure on us. Luckily our garden is rustic. I don't have straight trees. They grow as they want . It's just to find time to tidy up. I see there is a Sunday cricket match. There goes another day that could have been put into the garden. At this rate it will never happen. I am fully confident I can produce a good product. Thinking a real crowd pleaser of wood fired pizza, and flat breads. And then chops. Pork. I have those to an art . With a potato bake on the coals just to show off.
Lad, you are strange af.
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One of our acacia trees fell a couple of weeks ago. Termites got to the roots. Had some guys chop it up, so waiting for it try dry out and I'll have enough wood for braais and fires for at least a year.
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Sards wrote: Wed Mar 23, 2022 3:29 pm I went for a braai at my kids friend's place the one day. Man the dudes garden was immaculate. I felt genuinely ashamed of my spot. At the braai he did everything to perfection. He took a lot of pride into what he did and the result showed. We obviously invited them to a return round but asked for time to get the garden in order first. Man this blokes lawn was immaculate. He trims the edges with a scissors. Who does that. He has a wall hung feeder garden where he grows from cuttings and seeds to plant in his garden. Everything is straight and tidy.

Lots of pressure on us. Luckily our garden is rustic. I don't have straight trees. They grow as they want . It's just to find time to tidy up. I see there is a Sunday cricket match. There goes another day that could have been put into the garden. At this rate it will never happen. I am fully confident I can produce a good product. Thinking a real crowd pleaser of wood fired pizza, and flat breads. And then chops. Pork. I have those to an art . With a potato bake on the coals just to show off.
Please don't tell him that you have microwaved the pork chops and potato bake to keep within your 30 minute rule.
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assfly wrote: Thu Mar 24, 2022 8:53 am One of our acacia trees fell a couple of weeks ago. Termites got to the roots. Had some guys chop it up, so waiting for it try dry out and I'll have enough wood for braais and fires for at least a year.
We have a huge old Soetdoring growing on the plot that I've been eyeing but the wife likes it and does not want me to fell it. I've been thinking of an excuse that will make sense to her but to no avail. Its not close to any fences or walls and the kids don't really go there so I cant convince them to complain about the thorns. The only thing a can think of is its multiplying like a moderfokor and if I don't mow there we'll soon be surrounded by thorn trees. But knowing my wife she'll probably see this as a positive.

It makes for great braai wood. Don't know if it is considered a hard wood but it's as heavy as lead and the coals can easily last a whole night without losing much heat. In the mean time I must be content with the Blackwattle that I seem to be losing the eradication battle against.
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Chilli wrote: Thu Mar 24, 2022 9:36 am
Sards wrote: Wed Mar 23, 2022 3:29 pm I went for a braai at my kids friend's place the one day. Man the dudes garden was immaculate. I felt genuinely ashamed of my spot. At the braai he did everything to perfection. He took a lot of pride into what he did and the result showed. We obviously invited them to a return round but asked for time to get the garden in order first. Man this blokes lawn was immaculate. He trims the edges with a scissors. Who does that. He has a wall hung feeder garden where he grows from cuttings and seeds to plant in his garden. Everything is straight and tidy.

Lots of pressure on us. Luckily our garden is rustic. I don't have straight trees. They grow as they want . It's just to find time to tidy up. I see there is a Sunday cricket match. There goes another day that could have been put into the garden. At this rate it will never happen. I am fully confident I can produce a good product. Thinking a real crowd pleaser of wood fired pizza, and flat breads. And then chops. Pork. I have those to an art . With a potato bake on the coals just to show off.
Please don't tell him that you have microwaved the pork chops and potato bake to keep within your 30 minute rule.
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Chilli wrote: Thu Mar 24, 2022 9:36 am
Sards wrote: Wed Mar 23, 2022 3:29 pm I went for a braai at my kids friend's place the one day. Man the dudes garden was immaculate. I felt genuinely ashamed of my spot. At the braai he did everything to perfection. He took a lot of pride into what he did and the result showed. We obviously invited them to a return round but asked for time to get the garden in order first. Man this blokes lawn was immaculate. He trims the edges with a scissors. Who does that. He has a wall hung feeder garden where he grows from cuttings and seeds to plant in his garden. Everything is straight and tidy.

Lots of pressure on us. Luckily our garden is rustic. I don't have straight trees. They grow as they want . It's just to find time to tidy up. I see there is a Sunday cricket match. There goes another day that could have been put into the garden. At this rate it will never happen. I am fully confident I can produce a good product. Thinking a real crowd pleaser of wood fired pizza, and flat breads. And then chops. Pork. I have those to an art . With a potato bake on the coals just to show off.
Please don't tell him that you have microwaved the pork chops and potato bake to keep within your 30 minute rule.
Pork chops 3 minutes. Turn 3 minutes....take off. Crackling maybe 20 minutes. Potato bake 30 minutes. Goes in first into the microwave ( Diablo)... :grin:
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average joe wrote: Thu Mar 24, 2022 9:39 am We have a huge old Soetdoring growing on the plot that I've been eyeing but the wife likes it and does not want me to fell it. I've been thinking of an excuse that will make sense to her but to no avail. Its not close to any fences or walls and the kids don't really go there so I cant convince them to complain about the thorns. The only thing a can think of is its multiplying like a moderfokor and if I don't mow there we'll soon be surrounded by thorn trees. But knowing my wife she'll probably see this as a positive.

It makes for great braai wood. Don't know if it is considered a hard wood but it's as heavy as lead and the coals can easily last a whole night without losing much heat. In the mean time I must be content with the Blackwattle that I seem to be losing the eradication battle against.
Keep it. We need trees. But if you do cut it down, make sure you replace it with some seedlings :thumbup:

As well as the firewood, we made a table and chairs (just stumps) for the kids, and we've got a nice ornamental coffee table too. And we've taken some of the seeds to try and grow some more acacias to plant.
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assfly wrote: Thu Mar 24, 2022 12:54 pm
average joe wrote: Thu Mar 24, 2022 9:39 am We have a huge old Soetdoring growing on the plot that I've been eyeing but the wife likes it and does not want me to fell it. I've been thinking of an excuse that will make sense to her but to no avail. Its not close to any fences or walls and the kids don't really go there so I cant convince them to complain about the thorns. The only thing a can think of is its multiplying like a moderfokor and if I don't mow there we'll soon be surrounded by thorn trees. But knowing my wife she'll probably see this as a positive.

It makes for great braai wood. Don't know if it is considered a hard wood but it's as heavy as lead and the coals can easily last a whole night without losing much heat. In the mean time I must be content with the Blackwattle that I seem to be losing the eradication battle against.
Keep it. We need trees. But if you do cut it down, make sure you replace it with some seedlings :thumbup:

As well as the firewood, we made a table and chairs (just stumps) for the kids, and we've got a nice ornamental coffee table too. And we've taken some of the seeds to try and grow some more acacias to plant.
Acacia trees are horrible down a road. Council decided to plant them outside every house in our hood. We planted a wild plum before they got to our house so we didn't get one. Those thorns are everywhere. And they snag every plastic bag in the world so always look shit. I hate them...in an Urban environment.
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Acacia is intruders
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We have many trees on the plot and I've added a few fruit trees as well. I'm also sitting with a small Blackwattle "plantation" that just don't want to go away no matter how much chainsaw I throw at it. I cleared it when we moved in and with all the rain the danm saplings are already three meters tall again. At least it provides wood for the hearth in the winter.

The common acacia are indigenous and get very large but it has a very aggressive root system and they multiply effortlessly. It's sure is a shame to fell it as I like them on a farm setting but they just make the perfect braai wood. Perhaps I should let one or two of the saplings grow and then fell the big one. That way I'll have another to fell in a few years.
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OomStruisbaai wrote: Thu Mar 24, 2022 1:17 pm Acacia is intruders
Inheems volgens my, daar mag dalk n spesie wees wat n indringer is maar die soetdoring, apiesdoring en kameeldoring is almal inheems
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I get it about the thorns, but they're beautiful, iconic trees that are also great for birds and animals. We get the yellow fever tree where we live that provide great shade to the garden.
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assfly wrote: Thu Mar 24, 2022 2:00 pm I get it about the thorns, but they're beautiful, iconic trees that are also great for birds and animals. We get the yellow fever tree where we live that provide great shade to the garden.
Now that I think about it I saw a family of bush babies in it the other night. Now I have to keep the thing.
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average joe wrote: Thu Mar 24, 2022 2:06 pm Now that I think about it I saw a family of bush babies in it the other night. Now I have to keep the thing.
Ja we have them too. Very cute little buggers.

Same with Hyrax.
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South Africa does not have any indigenous Acacias. The local genus was renamed Senegalia and Vachellia in 2017. So Oom is right any Acacias we have here are alien invasives like Rooikrans or Port Jackson Willows. Our Senegalias and Vachellias are related to Australian acacias from the the time the Gondwanaland split up. Our Fynbos is also closely related to Australian flora. This is evident in their DNA.
TLDR - South African Acacias are now called Senegalias or Vachellias.
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FalseBayFC wrote: Thu Mar 24, 2022 2:40 pm South Africa does not have any indigenous Acacias. The local genus was renamed Senegalia and Vachellia in 2014. So Oom is right any Acacias we have here are alien invasives like Rooikrans or Port Jackson Willows. Our Senegalias and Vachellias are related to Australian acacias from the the time the Gondwanaland split up. Our Fynbos is also closely related to Australian flora. This is evident in their DNA.
TLDR - South African Acacias are now called Senegalias or Vachellias.
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FalseBayFC wrote: Thu Mar 24, 2022 2:42 pm
FalseBayFC wrote: Thu Mar 24, 2022 2:40 pm South Africa does not have any indigenous Acacias. The local genus was renamed Senegalia and Vachellia in 2014. So Oom is right any Acacias we have here are alien invasives like Rooikrans or Port Jackson Willows. Our Senegalias and Vachellias are related to Australian acacias from the the time the Gondwanaland split up. Our Fynbos is also closely related to Australian flora. This is evident in their DNA.
TLDR - South African Acacias are now called Senegalias or Vachellias.
I did Landsdiens camps at Jonkershoek while in school. We had to chop them out. My son study nature reserve and do intern at Nuwejaars Wetlands close by..

https://nuwejaars.com/
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FalseBayFC wrote: Thu Mar 24, 2022 2:40 pm South Africa does not have any indigenous Acacias. The local genus was renamed Senegalia and Vachellia in 2017. So Oom is right any Acacias we have here are alien invasives like Rooikrans or Port Jackson Willows. Our Senegalias and Vachellias are related to Australian acacias from the the time the Gondwanaland split up. Our Fynbos is also closely related to Australian flora. This is evident in their DNA.
TLDR - South African Acacias are now called Senegalias or Vachellias.
Acacia remains a widely used common name across genera.
A simple name change does not make them invasive.
Vachellia karroo, commonly known as the Sweet thorn, is a species of Vachellia, native to southern Africa from southern Angola east to Mozambique, and south to South Africa.[3]

It is a shrub or small to medium-sized tree which grows to height of 12m.[4] It is difficult to tell apart from Vachellia nilotica subsp. adstringens without examining the seed pods. The Botanical Society of South Africa has accepted a name change to Vachellia karroo.[5]

Common names in various languages include Acacia, Common acacia, Karoo thorn, Doringboom, Soetdoring, Cape gum, Cassie, Piquants blancs, Cassie piquants blancs, Cockspur thorn, Deo-babool, Doorn boom, Kaludai, Kikar, Mormati, Pahari Kikar, uMga and Udai vel.[2]


They are indigenous.
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average joe wrote: Fri Mar 25, 2022 7:03 am
FalseBayFC wrote: Thu Mar 24, 2022 2:40 pm South Africa does not have any indigenous Acacias. The local genus was renamed Senegalia and Vachellia in 2017. So Oom is right any Acacias we have here are alien invasives like Rooikrans or Port Jackson Willows. Our Senegalias and Vachellias are related to Australian acacias from the the time the Gondwanaland split up. Our Fynbos is also closely related to Australian flora. This is evident in their DNA.
TLDR - South African Acacias are now called Senegalias or Vachellias.
Acacia remains a widely used common name across genera.
A simple name change does not make them invasive.
Vachellia karroo, commonly known as the Sweet thorn, is a species of Vachellia, native to southern Africa from southern Angola east to Mozambique, and south to South Africa.[3]

It is a shrub or small to medium-sized tree which grows to height of 12m.[4] It is difficult to tell apart from Vachellia nilotica subsp. adstringens without examining the seed pods. The Botanical Society of South Africa has accepted a name change to Vachellia karroo.[5]

Common names in various languages include Acacia, Common acacia, Karoo thorn, Doringboom, Soetdoring, Cape gum, Cassie, Piquants blancs, Cassie piquants blancs, Cockspur thorn, Deo-babool, Doorn boom, Kaludai, Kikar, Mormati, Pahari Kikar, uMga and Udai vel.[2]


They are indigenous.
I was just pointing out that our indigenous "Acacias" are not called Acacias anymore - scientifically. So any Acacias found in SA for eg. Acacia Cyclops or Rooikrans are exotics. Just being pedantic I guess but I worked in forestry for many years and trees are a passion of mine so its just habit.
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Such a shame to see South African xenophobia extending to plants.
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assfly wrote: Fri Mar 25, 2022 7:22 am Such a shame to see South African xenophobia extending to plants.
It was actually the Aussies who forced the name change on us. They have more Acacia species than we do and asserted their botanical hegemony on us by insisting we find another name for our genus.
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I know, but saying they are invasives when most South Africans (of my age and older at least) grew up knowing the local species as "Acacias" is wrong. So no oom was not right when he said "Acacias" are not indigenous. Because many people still refer to the Senegalia and Vachellia as "Acacias"
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