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I’m annoyed with Edinburgh too, but that’s a hell of a thing to post a matter of months after one of our two pro teams won a title by winning two very difficult games away from home.
True, but we only have 2 pro teams. It’s not really anything to do with the pro teams to be honest, I’m just feeling pretty uninspired with what’s coming through and the old guards slow decline
I noticed this as well, he was much improved last night.GrahamWa wrote: ↑Sun Oct 13, 2024 8:10 am I think Price must have had a rocket up the arse. Best game I've seen him play in an age, still not a patch on his past form and still way down the pecking order. Must be playing for another contract, I expect his form will continue to improve until the dotted line is signed.
It's been a recurring issue with Harrison since the u20s, don't know if he'll ever be a great lineout thrower. The calls also weren't great as the jumpers were being at the front.robmatic wrote: ↑Sat Oct 12, 2024 5:41 pmThat's the risk of playing young front rowers though. The set piece tends to be less reliable.I like neeps wrote: ↑Sat Oct 12, 2024 5:28 pm Harrison missing three consecutive lineouts in the 22, that can't happen.
The only luck that laddie has is bad luck. Hopefully a full recovery ahead of him.
It was absolutely horrific, certainly gone for the season, wouldn’t shock me if that’s his career. Tragic for him on so many levels.
Tbf, perhaps you were right! *doffs hat*KingBlairhorn wrote: ↑Sat Oct 12, 2024 9:58 amI admire your optimism Tichtheid! Let’s see how they get on this afternoon. It’ll be a real treat watching Edinburgh and the Scotland football team getting horsed at the same time.
An ankle fracture-dislocation apparently
His ankle ended up round nearly 180 degrees. He took an angle off a set move with Ben Earl at speed, pretty regulation tackle and the defender just seemed to get caught on top of him with his ankle stuck underneath. Absolutely horrible and just a complete freak accident.
KingBlairhorn wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2024 7:34 amTbf, perhaps you were right! *doffs hat*KingBlairhorn wrote: ↑Sat Oct 12, 2024 9:58 amI admire your optimism Tichtheid! Let’s see how they get on this afternoon. It’ll be a real treat watching Edinburgh and the Scotland football team getting horsed at the same time.
Edinburgh head coach Sean Everitt admits the club are “desperate” to keep Duhan van der Merwe after RugbyPass revealed La Rochelle are among several French clubs keen on recruiting the Scotland wing.
Van der Merwe, 29, returned to the Scottish capital two years ago after the demise of former club Worcester Warriors and signed a contract extension in late 2023.
But that deal expires at the end of this season and Edinburgh and Scottish Rugby will need to come up with an enticing package if they are to ward off interest from the Top 14, with Montpellier, Bayonne and Lyon also believed to be interested in the 6ft 4in flier.
SaintK wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2024 10:13 am Fissler reporting that Van der Merwe off to France?
He'll double his money I'd have thought.
Edit:
Apologies just seen the end of the post above!!Edinburgh head coach Sean Everitt admits the club are “desperate” to keep Duhan van der Merwe after RugbyPass revealed La Rochelle are among several French clubs keen on recruiting the Scotland wing.
Van der Merwe, 29, returned to the Scottish capital two years ago after the demise of former club Worcester Warriors and signed a contract extension in late 2023.
But that deal expires at the end of this season and Edinburgh and Scottish Rugby will need to come up with an enticing package if they are to ward off interest from the Top 14, with Montpellier, Bayonne and Lyon also believed to be interested in the 6ft 4in flier.
There is a period when tickets are only available to season ticket holders, then they go on general sale. I'm surprised they don't say what that date is.SomersetJock wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2024 8:25 am Morning all. Can anyone shed any light on how I can purchase some tickets for the 1872 match at Hampden. I naively thought I could just log in and hand over some money and get some tickets but I get a message about membership etc instead. Is it the case I need to pay money for membership and then buy the tickets ?
Any advice would be gratefully received.
To be honest the SRU shouldn't be offering the same wage never mind an increase. Neither Scottish clubs should have a large chunk of their wages sunk into the back 3. Glasgow don't but Edinburgh have 3 very good international standard back 3 players earning a very good wage.SaintK wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2024 10:14 amSaintK wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2024 10:13 am Fissler reporting that Van der Merwe off to France?
He'll double his money I'd have thought.
Edit:
Apologies just seen the end of the post above!!Edinburgh head coach Sean Everitt admits the club are “desperate” to keep Duhan van der Merwe after RugbyPass revealed La Rochelle are among several French clubs keen on recruiting the Scotland wing.
Van der Merwe, 29, returned to the Scottish capital two years ago after the demise of former club Worcester Warriors and signed a contract extension in late 2023.
But that deal expires at the end of this season and Edinburgh and Scottish Rugby will need to come up with an enticing package if they are to ward off interest from the Top 14, with Montpellier, Bayonne and Lyon also believed to be interested in the 6ft 4in flier.
I hope Everitt is just being polite about being desperate to keep him. He will be one of the better earners in the squad but only came back to Edinburgh because Wuss collapsed - he doesn't even like the city.SaintK wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2024 10:13 am Fissler reporting that Van der Merwe off to France?
He'll double his money I'd have thought.Edinburgh head coach Sean Everitt admits the club are “desperate” to keep Duhan van der Merwe after RugbyPass revealed La Rochelle are among several French clubs keen on recruiting the Scotland wing.
Van der Merwe, 29, returned to the Scottish capital two years ago after the demise of former club Worcester Warriors and signed a contract extension in late 2023.
But that deal expires at the end of this season and Edinburgh and Scottish Rugby will need to come up with an enticing package if they are to ward off interest from the Top 14, with Montpellier, Bayonne and Lyon also believed to be interested in the 6ft 4in flier.
It was about 3 weeks before the match last time I got tickets iirc. Although that wasn't a derby so the tickets might not have been on pre sale as long.weegie01 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2024 10:17 amThere is a period when tickets are only available to season ticket holders, then they go on general sale. I'm surprised they don't say what that date is.SomersetJock wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2024 8:25 am Morning all. Can anyone shed any light on how I can purchase some tickets for the 1872 match at Hampden. I naively thought I could just log in and hand over some money and get some tickets but I get a message about membership etc instead. Is it the case I need to pay money for membership and then buy the tickets ?
Any advice would be gratefully received.
Cheers for that, I assumed that would be the case, all I get is a message saying “event is not yet available to you, you don’t have the correct permissions” or some such.weegie01 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2024 10:17 amThere is a period when tickets are only available to season ticket holders, then they go on general sale. I'm surprised they don't say what that date is.SomersetJock wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2024 8:25 am Morning all. Can anyone shed any light on how I can purchase some tickets for the 1872 match at Hampden. I naively thought I could just log in and hand over some money and get some tickets but I get a message about membership etc instead. Is it the case I need to pay money for membership and then buy the tickets ?
Any advice would be gratefully received.
It is surprising if you don't know that our tight head stocks are Zander Fagerson and praying to God that he never gets injured. Javan Sebastian would never be a capped international for another tier1 side.weegie01 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2024 3:00 pm I had a look on the Bath site where mention is made of the A game. Apparently the Edinburgh scrum was overwhelmed, going backwards regardless of put in. However the Edinburgh backs looked lively and ran in good tries.
As a Bath supporter pointed out, with a Scottish international in the Edinburgh front row the extent of the dominance was a surprise.
SomersetJock wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2024 2:43 pmYou'll be fine, it'll not sell outweegie01 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2024 10:17 amThere is a period when tickets are only available to season ticket holders, then they go on general sale. I'm surprised they don't say what that date is.SomersetJock wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2024 8:25 am Morning all. Can anyone shed any light on how I can purchase some tickets for the 1872 match at Hampden. I naively thought I could just log in and hand over some money and get some tickets but I get a message about membership etc instead. Is it the case I need to pay money for membership and then buy the tickets ?
Any advice would be gratefully received.
STH purchase up to 21st Oct
then Warrior Nation window
General sale starts Friday, 25th October.
Deets here: https://glasgowwarriors.org/tickets-and ... inburgh-2/
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Cheers for that, I assumed that would be the case, all I get is a message saying “event is not yet available to you, you don’t have the correct permissions” or some such.
We shall book our trains and hotels etc now
That Edinburgh front row was 2 young laddies and Javan Sebastian, who is a URC journeyman basically, so shouldn't have been too much of a surprise.weegie01 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2024 3:00 pm I had a look on the Bath site where mention is made of the A game. Apparently the Edinburgh scrum was overwhelmed, going backwards regardless of put in. However the Edinburgh backs looked lively and ran in good tries.
As a Bath supporter pointed out, with a Scottish international in the Edinburgh front row the extent of the dominance was a surprise.
Kind of. Mikey Jones is 22 now - in Scottish rugby prop terms still young but the same age as someone like Finn Baxter who is playing for England and has 50+ career appearances or Fletcher Newell who was winning AB caps at the same age. It is what it is, but let's not pretend he is too young to be going up against Bath A - he just isn't good enough for professional rugby (yet, probably ever), unfortunately. Jerry Blyth Lafferty was the other in the front row - at 20 he should be breaking into the Edinburgh side now but instead its Paddy Harrison who is doing so, he is also 22.robmatic wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2024 5:59 pmThat Edinburgh front row was 2 young laddies and Javan Sebastian, who is a URC journeyman basically, so shouldn't have been too much of a surprise.weegie01 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2024 3:00 pm I had a look on the Bath site where mention is made of the A game. Apparently the Edinburgh scrum was overwhelmed, going backwards regardless of put in. However the Edinburgh backs looked lively and ran in good tries.
As a Bath supporter pointed out, with a Scottish international in the Edinburgh front row the extent of the dominance was a surprise.
Sometimes it is simply down to lack of preparation, time together and game experience as a front row or scrum unit.KingBlairhorn wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2024 9:07 amKind of. Mikey Jones is 22 now - in Scottish rugby prop terms still young but the same age as someone like Finn Baxter who is playing for England and has 50+ career appearances or Fletcher Newell who was winning AB caps at the same age. It is what it is, but let's not pretend he is too young to be going up against Bath A - he just isn't good enough for professional rugby (yet, probably ever), unfortunately. Jerry Blyth Lafferty was the other in the front row - at 20 he should be breaking into the Edinburgh side now but instead its Paddy Harrison who is doing so, he is also 22.robmatic wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2024 5:59 pmThat Edinburgh front row was 2 young laddies and Javan Sebastian, who is a URC journeyman basically, so shouldn't have been too much of a surprise.weegie01 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2024 3:00 pm I had a look on the Bath site where mention is made of the A game. Apparently the Edinburgh scrum was overwhelmed, going backwards regardless of put in. However the Edinburgh backs looked lively and ran in good tries.
As a Bath supporter pointed out, with a Scottish international in the Edinburgh front row the extent of the dominance was a surprise.
On the plus side Blyth-Lafferty (Ollie) continues to develop and still looks the bees knees. I really hope to see him get a little time for Edinburgh this year.
Was going to make the same point - you get the odd THP who is international ready in their early 20s, but they are generally regarded as freaks. We were lucky enough to have one of them. Can’t write these guys off for another few years at least.Tichtheid wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2024 10:12 am To be honest I was quite impressed with Sebastian's scrummaging, whether for Scarlets, Scotland on tour to Argentina or coming on as a replacement for Nel for Edinburgh, where he often improved the scrum.
That said, WP was no longer in his pomp.
Finn Baxter is an exception, as was Zander and hopefully Ollie B-L will be too.
Having said that, Rae and Venter have improved Edinburgh's scrum when called in so far this season so Sebastian is not a shoe-in to get back in the side.
As for the A game, it has been said already that it was a young selection in the pack, J B-L, McVie, McConnell and Douglas have just finished playing for the U20s (Douglas was 19 in May). 21 year old Carmichael has potential but he's very raw.
I don't really know what the Bath selection was, if it was a proper A team or if it was a youthful team - the fact that Scotland tend to get beaten up at U20s level suggests it wouldn't really matter, a premiership A side is probably going to have a stronger set piece than Edinburgh or Glasgow.
Sure, but we aren't talking international ready. We aren't even talking pro ready. We are talking whether it is acceptable for a 22 year old front rower to be ready for A team level. The examples I gave were probably poor for the point - if you are getting annihilated at A level at 22 you probably aren't likely to be a pro rugby player, even if you are in the front row.Yr Alban wrote: ↑Wed Oct 16, 2024 7:52 amWas going to make the same point - you get the odd THP who is international ready in their early 20s, but they are generally regarded as freaks. We were lucky enough to have one of them. Can’t write these guys off for another few years at least.Tichtheid wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2024 10:12 am To be honest I was quite impressed with Sebastian's scrummaging, whether for Scarlets, Scotland on tour to Argentina or coming on as a replacement for Nel for Edinburgh, where he often improved the scrum.
That said, WP was no longer in his pomp.
Finn Baxter is an exception, as was Zander and hopefully Ollie B-L will be too.
Having said that, Rae and Venter have improved Edinburgh's scrum when called in so far this season so Sebastian is not a shoe-in to get back in the side.
As for the A game, it has been said already that it was a young selection in the pack, J B-L, McVie, McConnell and Douglas have just finished playing for the U20s (Douglas was 19 in May). 21 year old Carmichael has potential but he's very raw.
I don't really know what the Bath selection was, if it was a proper A team or if it was a youthful team - the fact that Scotland tend to get beaten up at U20s level suggests it wouldn't really matter, a premiership A side is probably going to have a stronger set piece than Edinburgh or Glasgow.
Would just like to observe that it’s bizarre that a guy called Finlay Baxter is turning out for England. I just Googled him and apparently his parents aren’t even Scottish. Despite the fact that his brother’s name is Calder!
If the Stormers were capable of passing, catching, holding on or kicking the ball then Embra would have struggled and been down at half time. The win was as much a measure of how awful the Stormers were as it was of Embra skill levels. I struggle to think of one backs move we executed throughout the game albeit the game plan of forward pods and box kicking was perfect against a Stormers back 3 who couldn't catch a cold let alone a high ball. I suspect we might struggle against a Cardiff team on Saturday who will be targeting us for an away win and will be well aware of how we play the game at the moment.Jock42 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 16, 2024 6:36 pm Andy Burke on the BBC podcast stated earlier that one of the embra coaches, wouldn't name him, went up to the coaches box gobbing off about them having slated Kenny the week before, expecting plaudits this week. Absolutely bonkers that they don't think they deserve pelters for losing 5 on the bounce and shitting their pants against the Lions and that they think 1 win, with many flaws still, vindicates him (and presumably the rest of them by association).
ETA: The club is fucked if that mindset is endemic in throughout and considering how often the internationals fail to show up I fear it is.