What's going on in Ukraine?

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Enzedder wrote: Sat Oct 01, 2022 7:39 pm When Putin makes the order to escalate this to tactical nukes, will his minions allow it?

(I reckon he will do this as the pressure gets too much)
Suggested a few weeks ago that they should have cut their losses in the East to try and keep Crimea. Now with the current rout, their chances of holding Crimea have to be in doubt.

Can see some dirty tricks but nukes... Hmmm don't think so.
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From all the great news of Ukraine striking back, on the map it only looks like a tiny amount they’ve reclaimed.

The slightly lighter yellow.

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Ymx wrote: Sat Oct 01, 2022 9:09 pm From all the great news of Ukraine striking back, on the map it only looks like a tiny amount they’ve reclaimed.

The slightly lighter yellow.

Think of it like rugby, the opponent cannot defend everywhere as well all the time, and if you get a line break there's potential to make a lot of ground because there'll be empty spaces in behind if you're quick enough.
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_Os_ wrote: Sat Oct 01, 2022 9:16 pm
Think of it like rugby, the opponent cannot defend everywhere as well all the time, and if you get a line break there's potential to make a lot of ground because there'll be empty spaces in behind if you're quick enough.
Yeah, & their best players have all gone off, & they've filled the subs bench with kids who've never picked up the ball before, & it's only Half-Time !

To gain this ground, the Orcs have destroyed their military, & ruined their Economy; now they have to keep it !
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_Os_ wrote: Sat Oct 01, 2022 9:16 pm
Think of it like rugby, the opponent cannot defend everywhere as well all the time, and if you get a line break there's potential to make a lot of ground because there'll be empty spaces in behind if you're quick enough.
I've actually described rugby like Blitzkreig. Punch a big hole in the defensive line (either power or finesse) to get in behind and flood it with support. Maybe a well placed bomb over the defence is like a 39-40 Stuka attack? :lol:
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I'm assuming they haven't finished counting the results of the Lyman strategic reorganisation.
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dkm57 wrote: Sun Oct 02, 2022 11:31 am I'm assuming they haven't finished counting the results of the Lyman strategic reorganisation.
Not likely likely for a few weeks.

Kherson looks like it's moving now.



Things are getting interesting.
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dkm57 wrote: Sun Oct 02, 2022 11:31 am I'm assuming they haven't finished counting the results of the Lyman strategic reorganisation.
some are easier to count than others



The Orcs are still doing their ghetto modifcations to try & up-armor their tanks, as can be seen by the haphazard ERA blocks on the hulls.
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Great article with maps and video on Ukraine's big push:
https://ig.ft.com/ukraine-counteroffensive/
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Putler seems to have gone into hiding since the big show on Friday, couldn't be anything to do with more and more "setbacks" and "regroupings" on the battlefields and increasing dissent, even anger towards him personally? Strelkov for one aka Girkin is getting more and more vocal about his failings.
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This one is a bit rough.

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Spending an hour or two looking for updates.

In the east the battle of Kreminna is well underway, Ukraine has already taken outlying areas/villages. There's some talk within the last few hours of Ukraine moving on Svatove, that is the place a lot of Russian forces fell back to when they retreated from Kharkiv, it's a significant Russian logistics hub for northern Luhansk so there'll be a lot to capture there if they take it quickly. Girkin claims Russia has been ordered to retreat from Svatove within 72 hours (not sure if he means civilians or Russian forces). Ukraine taking Lyman has opened up a lot more in that area, there's reports of Ukraine moving on quite a few different villages/towns. A lot video/photos of Russian dead and POWs out of Lyman, so they may have stacked their forces in the area there.

Significant Ukraine advance in Kherson, Russian Telegram channels I've looked through seem worried about Kherson city itself. Russian defencive line seems to have collapsed in the northern part of Kherson they occupy and they're retreating. Fast moving, hard to tell what's happening other than Ukraine are winning.
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I see Elon Musk has been making a tit of himself.

Top quality shit posting from Zelensky in return.
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
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I wonder if the Orc AF, & Navy are basically washing their hands of the war now ?

I mean, I've seen reports that they're having to send recruits over to become grunts, & they aren't overjoyed at losing their nice safe job scratching rust off hulls; but are the high command actually prepared to commit their best forces to the cauldron ?

The close air support guys, as ever, are the bravest of the brave; but it seems like the toll amongst them has been devastating, & the losses in helicopters, & su-25 are very high.
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"Escape-goat" :smile:

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tabascoboy wrote: Tue Oct 04, 2022 7:34 am "Escape-goat" :smile:

Brilliant ...
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Uncle fester wrote: Mon Oct 03, 2022 8:23 pm This one is a bit rough
Really? It's not like he was face-fucking the guy.
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Belarus mobilises! :think:

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laurent wrote: Tue Oct 04, 2022 8:44 am
tabascoboy wrote: Tue Oct 04, 2022 7:34 am "Escape-goat" :smile:

Brilliant ...
If the last 30 years made anything clear, it's that Francis Fukyomama established a new benchmark in optimistic US liberal fuckwittery.
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Kherson Front moving so fast twitter can't keep up :thumbup:

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It's on

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The northern Kherson front has collapsed.

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With talk of encirclement and one road out of pockets, I wonder if any UKR commanders are a fan of Last of the Mohicans? (Maybe not in exactly the same way, but this actually happened when the British and colonials retreated from Fort William Henry in 1757.)

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_Os_ wrote: Mon Oct 03, 2022 8:30 pm Spending an hour or two looking for updates.

In the east the battle of Kreminna is well underway, Ukraine has already taken outlying areas/villages. There's some talk within the last few hours of Ukraine moving on Svatove, that is the place a lot of Russian forces fell back to when they retreated from Kharkiv, it's a significant Russian logistics hub for northern Luhansk so there'll be a lot to capture there if they take it quickly. Girkin claims Russia has been ordered to retreat from Svatove within 72 hours (not sure if he means civilians or Russian forces). Ukraine taking Lyman has opened up a lot more in that area, there's reports of Ukraine moving on quite a few different villages/towns. A lot video/photos of Russian dead and POWs out of Lyman, so they may have stacked their forces in the area there.

Significant Ukraine advance in Kherson, Russian Telegram channels I've looked through seem worried about Kherson city itself. Russian defencive line seems to have collapsed in the northern part of Kherson they occupy and they're retreating. Fast moving, hard to tell what's happening other than Ukraine are winning.
^Taps post.

I waded through Google translating Russian Telegram kak to bring you the Kherson news last night already.
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Niegs wrote: Tue Oct 04, 2022 4:54 pm With talk of encirclement and one road out of pockets, I wonder if any UKR commanders are a fan of Last of the Mohicans? (Maybe not in exactly the same way, but this actually happened when the British and colonials retreated from Fort William Henry in 1757.)

Or Market Garden in reverse !

The rivers, & natural boundaries are still all important in ground warfare, & I wonder are the Orcs going to have to sacrifice their corridor, because there just aren't those natural boundaries in place, & the best they have is to confine themselves to the Crimea peninsula, & a perimeter around it where they can hit targets with artillery.
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Biffer wrote: Mon Oct 03, 2022 8:51 pm I see Elon Musk has been making a tit of himself.

Top quality shit posting from Zelensky in return.
I'm planning on running a twitter poll on whether Musk should give me 20% of his money, or just 10%; it seems reasonable to me ?
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Putin’s tactical mistake
Vladislav Inozemtsev on how Putin lost the gas war with Europe

Opening para:
Russia’s invasion of Ukraine has fundamentally changed global politics, and there is little doubt that the most dramatic events are yet to come: Russia’s defeat and its decline as a superpower (even if a regional one) will have lasting consequences. However, similar statements about the global economy, if made at all, sound less confident: sanctions against Russia have not destroyed the global financial order, the hundreds of Western companies which escaped from Russia have not seen their position in other markets decline, and the only area where Moscow really had something to say, namely commodity pricing, has either returned to pre-war levels (like oil or wheat) or declined (like steel and some non-ferrous metals). The only serious problem that persists is the situation on the gas market and, to some extent, on the coal market, predominantly in Europe, where these commodities are traded at prices which are 4.0 and 2.4 times higher than a year ago.

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