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Enzedder wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 7:34 pm Well shit - wanna poor more fear onto me?

A new study of more than one million people suggests those with a certain blood type are less at risk of contracting Covid-19 than others.

The study of 1.05 million participants over four months, published on medrxiv.org, has found people with O-type blood may be less susceptible to contracting coronavirus.

The results have not been peer reviewed.

The study is based on research results from personal genomics and biotechnology company 23andMe, which conducted the work this year. So probably means I am safe. Phew

It found people with O-type blood appear to be at a lower risk of being infected and also are less likely to have a severe case of the disease.

I got this report a couple of months ago as I’m one of the participants in this DNA company which has my DNA. At that time only 800,000 had responded and they gave a range for type Os having between 10 and 18% less chance of catching it. I’ve recently completed an follow-up survey but the results aren’t out yet.

O Neg

Oh FFS. At this point, this is nothing more than a demonstration that that "openess" when it comes to rapidly evolving medical situations is a fucking shit idea.

The general public are very simply not in a position to understand or interpret rapidly developing information in this arens, and frankly we would be a lot better off knowing nothing.

Just last week i was told that 50,0000 people arguing against face masks without any expertise must know more than any single or multiple experts saying they were essential, regardless of their qualifications.

Saint wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 8:53 pm Oh FFS. At this point, this is nothing more than a demonstration that that "openess" when it comes to rapidly evolving medical situations is a fucking shit idea.

The general public are very simply not in a position to understand or interpret rapidly developing information in this arens, and frankly we would be a lot better off knowing nothing.

Just last week i was told that 50,0000 people arguing against face masks without any expertise must know more than any single or multiple experts saying they were essential, regardless of their qualifications.

We do seem to be heading towards the Orville episode with the country run entirely on likes/dislikes to decide whether somethings a crime/healthy/moral etc etc

Saint wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 8:53 pm Oh FFS. At this point, this is nothing more than a demonstration that that "openess" when it comes to rapidly evolving medical situations is a fucking shit idea.

The general public are very simply not in a position to understand or interpret rapidly developing information in this arens, and frankly we would be a lot better off knowing nothing.

Just last week i was told that 50,0000 people arguing against face masks without any expertise must know more than any single or multiple experts saying they were essential, regardless of their qualifications.

Don’t be a killjoy!! I’m clearly immune to Covid and will not have you put the brakes on my personal liberty with your medical type knowledge and anti-democracy caution.

Sandstorm wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 9:26 pm

Saint wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 8:53 pm Oh FFS. At this point, this is nothing more than a demonstration that that "openess" when it comes to rapidly evolving medical situations is a fucking shit idea.

The general public are very simply not in a position to understand or interpret rapidly developing information in this arens, and frankly we would be a lot better off knowing nothing.

Just last week i was told that 50,0000 people arguing against face masks without any expertise must know more than any single or multiple experts saying they were essential, regardless of their qualifications.

Don’t be a killjoy!! I’m clearly immune to Covid and will not have you put the brakes on my personal liberty with your medical type knowledge and anti-democracy caution.

Just one week ago I was told on here that hospital admissions for COVID weren't increasing. Today the same poster posted a tweet proving that that was untrue, presumably while trying to show a day to day improvement as if thing were reversable

I know that there's obvious humour potential to this, but there's also genuine public safety issues

Sorry Saint, I’m just as concerned about many of the people out there who aren’t taking this seriously as you are. I shouldn’t joke about it.

Sandstorm wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 10:04 pm Sorry Saint, I’m just as concerned about many of the people out there who aren’t taking this seriously as you are. I shouldn’t joke about it.

Several weeks ago, after I expressed concern at the rising numbers, a well known, rapacious, poster on here told me there was no cause for concern - and that the pandemic was over - and that we should all go back to our normal lives. Imagine my surprise when I discovered he was talking aboslute bollocks again.

Bimbowomxn wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 11:04 am

dpedin wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 10:56 am

Bimbowomxn wrote: ↑Fri Sep 18, 2020 12:17 pm



And yet private providers did fine in Germany and Switzerland.

PHE are under direct control of Hancock and the Department, They dont do anything without his say so.

'Public Health England (PHE) is an executive agency of the Department of Health and Social Care (DHSC) which is the expert national public health agency which fulfils the Secretary of State for Health and Social Care's statutory duty to protect health and address inequalities, and executes his power to promote the ... '

The running argument within PHE on using private provision back in Mar / April is well documented. Hancock is a f ucking lunatic btw.

I want to change all health provision in the UK , I don’t want any politician to be that close to decisions.

You could almost think that the Gov and Hancock set up PHE to fail in order to justify the need for private sector involvement! PHE wouldn't cough without Hancocks approval, even in the early days of the pandemic. They are not independent organisation but operate under direct control of the Gov and would have been making sure they had Gov approval for any decision they made, its the way to works.

Private sector may well work in Germany and Switzerland but I would take a guess and say they didnt select them on basis we did - political allegiance, studied at same university, chums of ministers, lack of business or technical know how, dodgy company histories, etc. We didnt contract property with the private sector, we got our mates companies in or employed companies the Gov have a material interest in! Not much different to me getting my mate's mate who is a joiner to come and fix my plumbing because he is a good guy, will give me a cheap rate and nick the materials I need from the site he is working on!

Mate lives in a private flat complex - mix of owner occupied and rentals. On Thursday night at 11.30pm he got fed up off noise from party a couple of floors above him. Called police to complain and 20mins later 6 polis turned up and visited flat. Took 6 out at a time and took their details, turned out there was over 40 at party in 2 bed flat. Drunken party goers pissed all over the place and left lots of bottles etc all over the place. No sure if it was students or a 'party flat' let. Either way polis were not happy with them. If students we wonder if polis will inform the University - up here in Scotland the Unis have issued some pretty serious warnings to students who break the break down rules. We also wondered who gets the £10k fine in this instance - the landlord or current occupiers? Either way caused a bit of a stir and mate has received lots of thanks for other occupants who said they were worried but didnt know what to do. How many feckin idiots are there out there?

Raggs wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 9:06 pm

Saint wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 8:53 pm Oh FFS. At this point, this is nothing more than a demonstration that that "openess" when it comes to rapidly evolving medical situations is a fucking shit idea.

The general public are very simply not in a position to understand or interpret rapidly developing information in this arens, and frankly we would be a lot better off knowing nothing.

Just last week i was told that 50,0000 people arguing against face masks without any expertise must know more than any single or multiple experts saying they were essential, regardless of their qualifications.

We do seem to be heading towards the Orville episode with the country run entirely on likes/dislikes to decide whether somethings a crime/healthy/moral etc etc

Yeah, we've been getting there for years. And doesn't China have something sort of like that already?

Loved that episode.

Ovals wrote: ↑Sun Sep 20, 2020 12:59 am

Sandstorm wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 10:04 pm Sorry Saint, I’m just as concerned about many of the people out there who aren’t taking this seriously as you are. I shouldn’t joke about it.

Several weeks ago, after I expressed concern at the rising numbers, a well known, rapacious, poster on here told me there was no cause for concern - and that the pandemic was over - and that we should all go back to our normal lives. Imagine my surprise when I discovered he was talking aboslute bollocks again.

Indeed, I can confirm that certainly in my locality more and more cases are filtering through to critical care facilities.

C69 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 20, 2020 11:26 am

Ovals wrote: ↑Sun Sep 20, 2020 12:59 am

Sandstorm wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 10:04 pm Sorry Saint, I’m just as concerned about many of the people out there who aren’t taking this seriously as you are. I shouldn’t joke about it.

Several weeks ago, after I expressed concern at the rising numbers, a well known, rapacious, poster on here told me there was no cause for concern - and that the pandemic was over - and that we should all go back to our normal lives. Imagine my surprise when I discovered he was talking aboslute bollocks again.

Indeed, I can confirm that certainly in my locality more and more cases are filtering through to critical care facilities.

The second wave you predicted is a week late already.

You could almost think that the Gov and Hancock set up PHE to fail in order to justify the need for private sector involvement! PHE wouldn't cough without Hancocks approval, even in the early days of the pandemic. They are not independent organisation but operate under direct control of the Gov and would have been making sure they had Gov approval for any decision they made, its the way to works.

Only if you’re a tin hat wearing conspiracy nut. They’re just inept, like the public sector is inept in this country.

Bimbowomxn wrote: ↑Sun Sep 20, 2020 2:49 pm

C69 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 20, 2020 11:26 am

Ovals wrote: ↑Sun Sep 20, 2020 12:59 am

Several weeks ago, after I expressed concern at the rising numbers, a well known, rapacious, poster on here told me there was no cause for concern - and that the pandemic was over - and that we should all go back to our normal lives. Imagine my surprise when I discovered he was talking aboslute bollocks again.

Indeed, I can confirm that certainly in my locality more and more cases are filtering through to critical care facilities.

The second wave you predicted is a week late already.

It's already here ffs

Btw when did I predict this?

C69 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 20, 2020 6:44 pm

Bimbowomxn wrote: ↑Sun Sep 20, 2020 2:49 pm

C69 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 20, 2020 11:26 am

Indeed, I can confirm that certainly in my locality more and more cases are filtering through to critical care facilities.

The second wave you predicted is a week late already.

It's already here ffs

Btw when did I predict this?

It’s already here ? What are you on about.

Ffs there’s still more hospitals than covid patients in hospitals right now.

You made predictions about the second wave being a week ago.

For all the bed wetters.

Isle of Man are taking none of your shit.

No cases since May, and rigidly enforced quarantine. Three people have been jailed each for four to six weeks.

No social distancing or any other measures required because they have no cases and are rigid about quarantine.

Having spent the last few days in various parts of England it’s a really stark difference from Scotland in terms of how folk are going about their daily lives.

Very few masks in pubs and restaurants, lots of people in shops without masks, very little social distancing anywhere. We’ve been quite shocked

Biffer wrote: ↑Sun Sep 20, 2020 8:28 pm Isle of Man are taking none of your shit.

No cases since May, and rigidly enforced quarantine. Three people have been jailed each for four to six weeks.

No social distancing or any other measures required because they have no cases and are rigid about quarantine.

What an absolutely Brilliant comparison for the 5th largest economy in the world to follow. Almost identical.

Slick wrote: ↑Sun Sep 20, 2020 8:30 pm Having spent the last few days in various parts of England it’s a really stark difference from Scotland in terms of how folk are going about their daily lives.

Very few masks in pubs and restaurants, lots of people in shops without masks, very little social distancing anywhere. We’ve been quite shocked

The bigger the population in a country, the less they care about social distancing.

Slick wrote: ↑Sun Sep 20, 2020 8:30 pm Having spent the last few days in various parts of England it’s a really stark difference from Scotland in terms of how folk are going about their daily lives.

Very few masks in pubs and restaurants, lots of people in shops without masks, very little social distancing anywhere. We’ve been quite shocked

And yet the Scottish R number is higher.

Who the f uck is wearing a mask while supping a pint ?

I’ve not seen one person in a shop without a mask.

(Btw masks are a placebo ).

Ovals wrote: ↑Sun Sep 20, 2020 12:59 am

Sandstorm wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 10:04 pm Sorry Saint, I’m just as concerned about many of the people out there who aren’t taking this seriously as you are. I shouldn’t joke about it.

Several weeks ago, after I expressed concern at the rising numbers, a well known, rapacious, poster on here told me there was no cause for concern - and that the pandemic was over - and that we should all go back to our normal lives. Imagine my surprise when I discovered he was talking aboslute bollocks again.

Let me know when we get back to it being a pandemic?

Oh, and as I expect to be banned because “complaints” , lets post the actual truth here.

The bed wetters love lockdown, they are fingers in the ears to the actual facts regarding deaths and are obviously psychopaths when it comes to deaths from cancer, untreated strokes and heart attacks.

They are now making case comparisons when possibly more than 50% of the current positive tests are false positives.

Let’s have. A revisit in a month and see what’s killing more people.


The bet wetter though shouldn’t worry, there’s a full lockdown planned for Oct the 11th.

Toddle pip especially the thick jocks and the grassing chicken runner.

Oh and while I’m at it.

MASKS DON’T WORK


If they did France and Spain would currently be covid free (they’ve had a much stricter mask policy ).


There’s no science at all that says they’re effective in any way.


They’re a placebo and all you mask adherent nutters and grasses just demonstrate you’re own idiocy everytime you bleed about them.

Its time to get tough on these bastards who break the rules, Ive lost count on how many people shops still won't wear masks, flog the cunts outside the store if caught.

Bimbowomxn wrote: ↑Sun Sep 20, 2020 8:50 pm Oh and while I’m at it.

MASKS DON’T WORK


If they did France and Spain would currently be covid free (they’ve had a much stricter mask policy ).


There’s no science at all that says they’re effective in any way.


They’re a placebo and all you mask adherent nutters and grasses just demonstrate you’re own idiocy everytime you bleed about them.

So are you a scientist with evidence or just a fat bastard that struggles to breath.

I'm just glad bimboman doesn't post on the Australian covid-19 thread, with his anti-mask, anti-lockdown, fake pandemic/fake infections lunacy. I do feel very sorry for genuine posters on this thread who want to discuss the issues the UK is currently facing in a sane and factual way.

Witty and Valance presser tomorrow.

Not going to be good news

Carter's Choice wrote: ↑Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:03 pm I'm just glad bimboman doesn't post on the Australian covid-19 thread, with his anti-mask, anti-lockdown, fake pandemic/fake infections lunacy. I do feel very sorry for genuine posters on this thread who want to discuss the issues the UK is currently facing in a sane and factual way.

Ow that you’ve mentioned it he’ll be fishing on it for the next few weeks. He’s that sort of cunt.

Biffer wrote: ↑Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:15 pm

Carter's Choice wrote: ↑Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:03 pm I'm just glad bimboman doesn't post on the Australian covid-19 thread, with his anti-mask, anti-lockdown, fake pandemic/fake infections lunacy. I do feel very sorry for genuine posters on this thread who want to discuss the issues the UK is currently facing in a sane and factual way.

Ow that you’ve mentioned it he’ll be fishing on it for the next few weeks. He’s that sort of cunt.

No, he started posting/trolling on it a few weeks back but we asked him nicely to leave and he did.

tc27 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:05 pm Witty and Valance presser tomorrow.

Not going to be good news

My expectation is a complete lockdown on social interaction. Office and schools to remain open but no mixing between households in public or private. Not sure if pubs/restaurants will short-term closed - government preference would be not, but I could easily see a couple of weeks, or a far more stringent requirement to stay open

tc27 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:05 pm Witty and Valance presser tomorrow.

Not going to be good news

The biggest bed wetters of all!

mAsKs DoNt WoRk

https://www.ox.ac.uk/news/2020-07-08-ox ... rk-act-now

The study found:

Cloth face coverings are effective in protecting the wearer and those around them.
Behavioural factors are involved, including how people understand the virus and their perceptions of risk, trust in experts and government, can adversely affect mask wearing.
Face masks need to be seen as part of ‘policy packages’ with other measures such as social distancing and hand hygiene.
Clear and consistent policies and public messaging are key to the adoption of wearing face masks and coverings by the general public

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus- ... y-12003836

https://med.stanford.edu/news/all-news/ ... lines.html

https://www.wsj.com/articles/face-masks ... 1595083298

Saint wrote: ↑Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:38 pm

tc27 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:05 pm Witty and Valance presser tomorrow.

Not going to be good news

My expectation is a complete lockdown on social interaction. Office and schools to remain open but no mixing between households in public or private. Not sure if pubs/restaurants will short-term closed - government preference would be not, but I could easily see a couple of weeks, or a far more stringent requirement to stay open

Without wanting to start a circular debate/argument with this thread's resident loons, I think Melbourne is showing that this virus can be contained in densely populated urban areas with very strict lockdowns. Two months ago Melbourne was recording 700+ new daily infections with infection rates doubling every few days, and today they have recorded just 11 new cases. Sure, Victorians have had to endure strict lockdowns, mandatory face masks, a state wide wide curfew between 8pm and 5am and sustained attacks on their liberty & freedom, but these measures seem to be working effectively, and far quicker than the modelling suggested it would.

Carter's Choice wrote: ↑Sun Sep 20, 2020 10:15 pm

Saint wrote: ↑Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:38 pm

tc27 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:05 pm Witty and Valance presser tomorrow.

Not going to be good news

My expectation is a complete lockdown on social interaction. Office and schools to remain open but no mixing between households in public or private. Not sure if pubs/restaurants will short-term closed - government preference would be not, but I could easily see a couple of weeks, or a far more stringent requirement to stay open

Without wanting to start a circular debate/argument with this thread's resident loons, I think Melbourne is showing that this virus can be contained in densley populated urban areas with very strict lockdowns. Two months ago Melbourne was recording 700+ new daily infections with infections rates doubling every few days, and today they have recorded just 11. Sure they have had to endure strict lockdowns and a state wide wide curfew between 8pm and 5am, but it seems to be working effectively, and far quicker than the modelling suggested it would.

It's all about balancing r0 at or below 1 vs keeping some semblance of an economy going. If they can keep hospitality operators all they will, because it's massive economic driving force.

The goal in th UK will not be to drive infections to zero, just to stop things from getting out of control before we can do something else

Saint wrote: ↑Sun Sep 20, 2020 10:22 pm It's all about balancing r0 at or below 1 vs keeping some semblance of an economy going. If they can keep hospitality operators all they will, because it's massive economic driving force.

The goal in th UK will not be to drive infections to zero, just to stop things from getting out of control before we can do something else

I believe that is/was the goal in Victoria as well. Good luck with everything and I hope that your law makers get good advice and make the right decisions so that you are able to stay on top of this virus and keep deaths to a minimum.

and he wonders why?

Insane_Homer wrote: ↑Mon Sep 21, 2020 4:48 am



and he wonders why?

I don’t wonder why I’m on your ignore list. I piss all over the chips of your posts time and again with actual facts.

Biffer wrote: ↑Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:15 pm

Carter's Choice wrote: ↑Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:03 pm I'm just glad bimboman doesn't post on the Australian covid-19 thread, with his anti-mask, anti-lockdown, fake pandemic/fake infections lunacy. I do feel very sorry for genuine posters on this thread who want to discuss the issues the UK is currently facing in a sane and factual way.

Ow that you’ve mentioned it he’ll be fishing on it for the next few weeks. He’s that sort of cunt.

Attack the post not the poster.