The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

[dkm57]

Oh well, just have to settle down to watch the Irish crippling each other.

[Jock42]

French thrown next weeks games into doubt. Dont want the UK strain.

[Slick]

I’d even been less than truthful with the wife to get her to organise a zoom catch up with her mates. Won’t be able to use that one again

[KingBlairhorn]

French thrown next weeks games into doubt. Dont want the UK strain.

La Rochelle’s game with Racing tomorrow cancelled due to a COVID outbreak in La Rochelle’s squad. For me that means Edinburgh must get a 28-0 win as with isolation requirements etc. La Rochelle cannot be safe by next week.

Of course the whole tournament might be cancelled so the point might be moot. If so the SRU must lobby extremely hard that qualification is as per the tournament this year with both Scottish teams involved.

[mos_eisely_]

French thrown next weeks games into doubt. Dont want the UK strain.

La Rochelle’s game with Racing tomorrow cancelled due to a COVID outbreak in La Rochelle’s squad. For me that means Edinburgh must get a 28-0 win as with isolation requirements etc. La Rochelle cannot be safe by next week.

Of course the whole tournament might be cancelled so the point might be moot. If so the SRU must lobby extremely hard that qualification is as per the tournament this year with both Scottish teams involved.

We don't play La Rochelle till 23rd

[I like neeps]

French thrown next weeks games into doubt. Dont want the UK strain.

La Rochelle’s game with Racing tomorrow cancelled due to a COVID outbreak in La Rochelle’s squad. For me that means Edinburgh must get a 28-0 win as with isolation requirements etc. La Rochelle cannot be safe by next week.

Of course the whole tournament might be cancelled so the point might be moot. If so the SRU must lobby extremely hard that qualification is as per the tournament this year with both Scottish teams involved.

Why? If they don't quality in the Pro14 they shouldn't get CC rugby because this year's CC was cancelled. There's more chance of covid disappearing tomorrow than Edinburgh or Glasgow winning the Champions Cup.

[KingBlairhorn]

French thrown next weeks games into doubt. Dont want the UK strain.

La Rochelle’s game with Racing tomorrow cancelled due to a COVID outbreak in La Rochelle’s squad. For me that means Edinburgh must get a 28-0 win as with isolation requirements etc. La Rochelle cannot be safe by next week.

Of course the whole tournament might be cancelled so the point might be moot. If so the SRU must lobby extremely hard that qualification is as per the tournament this year with both Scottish teams involved.

We don't play La Rochelle till 23rd

I thought it was the 16th, no?

Edit: ah, that’s sale, getting my game weeks mixed up. It’s still only 2 weeks to the 23rd so cancellation still seems highly likely.

[KingBlairhorn]

French thrown next weeks games into doubt. Dont want the UK strain.

La Rochelle’s game with Racing tomorrow cancelled due to a COVID outbreak in La Rochelle’s squad. For me that means Edinburgh must get a 28-0 win as with isolation requirements etc. La Rochelle cannot be safe by next week.

Of course the whole tournament might be cancelled so the point might be moot. If so the SRU must lobby extremely hard that qualification is as per the tournament this year with both Scottish teams involved.

Why? If they don't quality in the Pro14 they shouldn't get CC rugby because this year's CC was cancelled. There's more chance of covid disappearing tomorrow than Edinburgh or Glasgow winning the Champions Cup.

Because this year’s tournament has been a disaster and this year’s pro14 has been a disaster. Both competitions have been massively compromised, why wouldn’t they lobby to have it more or less declared null and void?

[I like neeps]

La Rochelle’s game with Racing tomorrow cancelled due to a COVID outbreak in La Rochelle’s squad. For me that means Edinburgh must get a 28-0 win as with isolation requirements etc. La Rochelle cannot be safe by next week.

Of course the whole tournament might be cancelled so the point might be moot. If so the SRU must lobby extremely hard that qualification is as per the tournament this year with both Scottish teams involved.

Why? If they don't quality in the Pro14 they shouldn't get CC rugby because this year's CC was cancelled. There's more chance of covid disappearing tomorrow than Edinburgh or Glasgow winning the Champions Cup.

Because this year’s tournament has been a disaster and this year’s pro14 has been a disaster. Both competitions have been massively compromised, why wouldn’t they lobby to have it more or less declared null and void?

Because they won't win any lobbying efforts? They agreed to enter both competitions. Crying because it doesn't work out your way is a bad look.

[KingBlairhorn]

Why? If they don't quality in the Pro14 they shouldn't get CC rugby because this year's CC was cancelled. There's more chance of covid disappearing tomorrow than Edinburgh or Glasgow winning the Champions Cup.

Because this year’s tournament has been a disaster and this year’s pro14 has been a disaster. Both competitions have been massively compromised, why wouldn’t they lobby to have it more or less declared null and void?

Because they won't win any lobbying efforts? They agreed to enter both competitions. Crying because it doesn't work out your way is a bad look.

Aye, sure, there’s definitely no history of teams not getting their own way and crying about it being successful in changing things in the champions cup.

If the tournament doesn’t complete then they didn’t get what they signed up for. Lobbying is simply putting forward an argument, and given the chaotic nature of national leagues this year and also given the fact that the most powerful teams (bar Saracens) are all already in the competition this year, it is likely that the argument would be met with widespread acceptance. It would be gross stupidity not to try and I certainly wouldn’t characterise it as ‘crying’ to point out the weird convoluted tournament structure with huge discrepancies in the quality of team played and where multiple matches have been defaulted that probably won’t even complete should be replayed next year.

[I like neeps]

The argument being we haven't been good this year but deserve to be in the champions cup next year isn't going anywhere. Unfair on the clubs who have qualified on merit when they're dealing with the same issues too.

[KingBlairhorn]

The argument being we haven't been good this year but deserve to be in the champions cup next year isn't going anywhere. Unfair on the clubs who have qualified on merit when they're dealing with the same issues too.

Excellent shifting of the goal posts. If you want to re-read my post my point was about the integrity of the competitions this year not performance in it. The champions cup is likely not to finish this year, the pro14 has been massively compromised this year. My post literally said “of course the whole tournament might be cancelled so the point might be moot. If so the SRU must lobby extremely hard”. On that basis there are grounds to re-run this year’s champions cup. That’s the point the SRU should be making.

[Tichtheid]

La Rochelle’s game with Racing tomorrow cancelled due to a COVID outbreak in La Rochelle’s squad. For me that means Edinburgh must get a 28-0 win as with isolation requirements etc. La Rochelle cannot be safe by next week.

Of course the whole tournament might be cancelled so the point might be moot. If so the SRU must lobby extremely hard that qualification is as per the tournament this year with both Scottish teams involved.

We don't play La Rochelle till 23rd

I thought it was the 16th, no?

Edit: ah, that’s sale, getting my game weeks mixed up. It’s still only 2 weeks to the 23rd so cancellation still seems highly likely.

Sunday Times is saying they expect the next two rounds to be "postponed", so that includes the La Rochelle game for us.

To be honest I can't see the competition being completed this season. I'm also not sure how we can play the Italian sides in the League and the Rainbow Cup must be in doubt

[westport]

Mish's deal is for three years

https://www.edinburghrugby.org/the-club ... w9Ow3cuGfU

[Big D]

The argument being we haven't been good this year but deserve to be in the champions cup next year isn't going anywhere. Unfair on the clubs who have qualified on merit when they're dealing with the same issues too.

Excellent shifting of the goal posts. If you want to re-read my post my point was about the integrity of the competitions this year not performance in it. The champions cup is likely not to finish this year, the pro14 has been massively compromised this year. My post literally said “of course the whole tournament might be cancelled so the point might be moot. If so the SRU must lobby extremely hard”. On that basis there are grounds to re-run this year’s champions cup. That’s the point the SRU should be making.

I can see the point but that argument would and should get nowhere. The SRU entered the competition knowing what may or may not be possible with regards to the season being curtailed.

[clydecloggie]

The argument being we haven't been good this year but deserve to be in the champions cup next year isn't going anywhere. Unfair on the clubs who have qualified on merit when they're dealing with the same issues too.

Excellent shifting of the goal posts. If you want to re-read my post my point was about the integrity of the competitions this year not performance in it. The champions cup is likely not to finish this year, the pro14 has been massively compromised this year. My post literally said “of course the whole tournament might be cancelled so the point might be moot. If so the SRU must lobby extremely hard”. On that basis there are grounds to re-run this year’s champions cup. That’s the point the SRU should be making.

I can see the point but that argument would and should get nowhere. The SRU entered the competition knowing what may or may not be possible with regards to the season being curtailed.

I can see the point - the Champions Cup setup this season was pretty farcical to start with and isn't helped by awarding 28-0 results for cancelled games. In hindsight, straight knock-out with 16 teams may have been a better option. Now the Pro14 is damaged goods as well, a curtailed season with limited exposure to certain teams because of travel restrictions. In a normal season, Glasgow would probably have been gash as well, mind, so if it's Toddler Cup next season instead it's probably what they deserve.

[Slick]

Anyone know where we are regarding the 1872 being played this coming weekend instead?

Could well be the last game for a while the way things are going...

[Jock42]

Anyone know where we are regarding the 1872 being played this coming weekend instead?

Could well be the last game for a while the way things are going...

That would be a good shout actually. So won't happen.

[Caley_Red]

What are the views on the likelihood of the 6N happening on time?

Would personally prefer it to be played in NH summer time with full stadiums but not sure how possible that will be, depends on the rapidity of the vaccine roll-out I suppose.

[Slick]

What are the views on the likelihood of the 6N happening on time?

Would personally prefer it to be played in NH summer time with full stadiums but not sure how possible that will be, depends on the rapidity of the vaccine roll-out I suppose.

I think it probably will go ahead as planned. The home unions are very keen it does and seem fairly confident the French will allow the national team to play.

More worrying for me is that the home unions also seem to favour the Lions “tour” being held here, I personally think that would be farcical.

I think domestic competitions are probably getting binned in the next few days

[TheNatalShark]

What are the views on the likelihood of the 6N happening on time?

Would personally prefer it to be played in NH summer time with full stadiums but not sure how possible that will be, depends on the rapidity of the vaccine roll-out I suppose.

Would also prefer a summer tournament, bias in that I'd prefer a switch to summer rugby overall, and potentially have a few fans in. Though agree with Slick likely will stay as is if French are happy.

More importantly to myself I'm hoping the club rugby season will also feature throughout summer.

[clydecloggie]

What are the views on the likelihood of the 6N happening on time?

Would personally prefer it to be played in NH summer time with full stadiums but not sure how possible that will be, depends on the rapidity of the vaccine roll-out I suppose.

Would also prefer a summer tournament, bias in that I'd prefer a switch to summer rugby overall, and potentially have a few fans in. Though agree with Slick likely will stay as is if French are happy.

More importantly to myself I'm hoping the club rugby season will also feature throughout summer.

The ideal scenario is that both the Lions tour and Olympics get binned, and that the 6N fills the gap. Stadiums full of fans waving their vaccine receipt and all.

[Tichtheid]

The Olympics is the nightmare scenario, at the Rio games there were eleven thousand athletes from 207 countries, if you want the ultimate super-spreader event this is it.

It would be absolute madness to hold the games this year.

[Big D]

What are the views on the likelihood of the 6N happening on time?

Would personally prefer it to be played in NH summer time with full stadiums but not sure how possible that will be, depends on the rapidity of the vaccine roll-out I suppose.

Would also prefer a summer tournament, bias in that I'd prefer a switch to summer rugby overall, and potentially have a few fans in. Though agree with Slick likely will stay as is if French are happy.

More importantly to myself I'm hoping the club rugby season will also feature throughout summer.

The ideal scenario is that both the Lions tour and Olympics get binned, and that the 6N fills the gap. Stadiums full of fans waving their vaccine receipt and all.

They will not go head to head with the football European Championship. The TV companies wont let them move it.

[Tichtheid]

James Lang and Glen Young sign for Edinburgh from Quins

[Slick]

James Lang and Glen Young sign for Edinburgh from Quins

What does Glen Young do?

[KingBlairhorn]

James Lang and Glen Young sign for Edinburgh from Quins

What does Glen Young do?

Professional rugby player mate








He’s a lock. Direct replacement for Davidson you would think, probably an upgrade.

[JM2K6]

Is Davidson a lanky beanpole who's good at the lineout and will get knocked over by a stiff breeze? :)

[KingBlairhorn]

Is Davidson a lanky beanpole who's good at the lineout and will get knocked over by a stiff breeze? :)

Is that a comment Young? I’ve not seen him play to be honest so no idea if that’s what he’s like?

[Tichtheid]

Is Davidson a lanky beanpole who's good at the lineout and will get knocked over by a stiff breeze? :)

Is that a comment Young? I’ve not seen him play to be honest so no idea if that’s what he’s like?

I've not seen a lot of him either, but from comments elsewhere he is a good lineout operator and shows up in the loose.

Cockers will put a stone on him in the gym if he's deemed lightweight.

[Biffer]

Lang is a decent signing. Don’t know anything about the other fella, but he seems to have been in the mix for Quins fairly regularly.

[JM2K6]

Is Davidson a lanky beanpole who's good at the lineout and will get knocked over by a stiff breeze? :)

Is that a comment Young? I’ve not seen him play to be honest so no idea if that’s what he’s like?

Yep. Young is an underpowered lock who's reasonably mobile (nothing special there), very good in the air, and, well, that's it. Always worried whenever he was on the pitch for us. He seems like a nice chap, which I'm sure everyone looks for in a second row...

[JM2K6]

Is Davidson a lanky beanpole who's good at the lineout and will get knocked over by a stiff breeze? :)

Is that a comment Young? I’ve not seen him play to be honest so no idea if that’s what he’s like?

I've not seen a lot of him either, but from comments elsewhere he is a good lineout operator and shows up in the loose.

Cockers will put a stone on him in the gym if he's deemed lightweight.

That'll put him up to 16 stone!

Lang is a decent signing. Don’t know anything about the other fella, but he seems to have been in the mix for Quins fairly regularly.

He's a firm second choice / bench player but we've had injuries a lot of the time.

[KingBlairhorn]

Seems just what stick-it-up-your-jumper Edinburgh need

[Biffer]

Is that a comment Young? I’ve not seen him play to be honest so no idea if that’s what he’s like?

I've not seen a lot of him either, but from comments elsewhere he is a good lineout operator and shows up in the loose.

Cockers will put a stone on him in the gym if he's deemed lightweight.

That'll put him up to 16 stone!

Lang is a decent signing. Don’t know anything about the other fella, but he seems to have been in the mix for Quins fairly regularly.

He's a firm second choice / bench player but we've had injuries a lot of the time.

That’s kind of what I thought from the stats. Clearly not first choice, but not a player who’s been sitting gin a squad and had four appearances a year.

[JM2K6]

Goes backwards in the tackle and there's a distinct lack of carries in there, so you can understand why I thought Quins need better! But it's possible I'm being unfair; I don't really rate a second row based on their passing in midfield. It's also possible we've just not made the most of him - I wish the guy well.

[Biffer]

Goes backwards in the tackle and there's a distinct lack of carries in there, so you can understand why I thought Quins need better! But it's possible I'm being unfair; I don't really rate a second row based on their passing in midfield. It's also possible we've just not made the most of him - I wish the guy well.

Yeah, I can appreciate that. Style of play in the Pro14 and Cockers coaching might be to his advantage.

[KingBlairhorn]

Anyone know where we are regarding the 1872 being played this coming weekend instead?

Could well be the last game for a while the way things are going...

Aha, Slick outed as Mark Dodson.

1872 to go ahead on Saturday night (16th).

[Big D]

Seems just what stick-it-up-your-jumper Edinburgh need

Can he play 10?

[Big D]

Is Davidson a lanky beanpole who's good at the lineout and will get knocked over by a stiff breeze? :)

Is that a comment Young? I’ve not seen him play to be honest so no idea if that’s what he’s like?

Yep. Young is an underpowered lock who's reasonably mobile (nothing special there), very good in the air, and, well, that's it. Always worried whenever he was on the pitch for us. He seems like a nice chap, which I'm sure everyone looks for in a second row...

I am not too concerned about him seeming underpowered. He has taken the long road around the houses in his pro career and seems to be improving as he goes along. He is signed as a squad player and will fill that role.

In many respects I am more concerned about Lang than Young as he has likely been brought in to start. He has had ample opportunity to make himself a nailed on Quins starter out side of injuries and he has never really done it. If he wasn't Scottish qualified we would be bemoaning another average import. I hope I am wrong but I haven't seen anything from him that suggests he is above average for Scotland or Quins.