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Hoyland back short term
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Jock42 wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2024 3:52 pmHoyland back short term
This is pointless. He may plug a gap for a short time, but no disprespect to Hoyland, I'd rather a young player who'd give their eye teeth to have a chance with Edinburgh was given the chance.
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Jock42 wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2024 3:52 pm Hoyland back short term
Why? This is emblematic of everything that is wrong with Edinburgh.

McCann and Brown good enough for Scotland A but Edinburgh need Hoyland? There must be academy and prem lads who could step in and get the experience surely?
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You would think Jake Henry could get recalled from his loan.

I presume this means Boff and Paterson aren't on their way back anytime soon.
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robmatic wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2024 7:46 pm You would think Jake Henry could get recalled from his loan.

I presume this means Boff and Paterson aren't on their way back anytime soon.
I think Henry is injured as he never seems to be in Coventry's 15.

Agree that this shows the short termist thinking at Edinburgh. Really having Currie (not a winger) and McCann (27 years old 2 pro appearances) on the wings for Scotland A shows just how thin our winger depth is. I guess that Steyn, Smith, and Paterson are injured.
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I like neeps wrote: Fri Nov 22, 2024 9:04 am
robmatic wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2024 7:46 pm You would think Jake Henry could get recalled from his loan.

I presume this means Boff and Paterson aren't on their way back anytime soon.
I think Henry is injured as he never seems to be in Coventry's 15.

Agree that this shows the short termist thinking at Edinburgh. Really having Currie (not a winger) and McCann (27 years old 2 pro appearances) on the wings for Scotland A shows just how thin our winger depth is. I guess that Steyn, Smith, and Paterson are injured.
It's incredibly poor. The best U20 wingers have been aligned to Glasgow in the last few years (McKnight, Caqusau, maybe Logan Jarvie) but none of them are involved in the A squad nor for Glasgow. I think Caqusau is the only one still involved in pro rugby but information is hard to come by. It just seems like very poor planning.
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A game live on Iplayer by the looks of it.

https://x.com/Scotlandteam/status/1859597626695352671
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Jockaline wrote: Fri Nov 22, 2024 11:51 am A game live on Iplayer by the looks of it.

https://x.com/Scotlandteam/status/1859597626695352671
Do you know kick off time?
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Slick wrote: Fri Nov 22, 2024 12:30 pm
Jockaline wrote: Fri Nov 22, 2024 11:51 am A game live on Iplayer by the looks of it.

https://x.com/Scotlandteam/status/1859597626695352671
Do you know kick off time?
6pm IIRC.

Would love to know if there is any way to record a match shown on iPlayer, or to watch it later. They often don't keep all programmes...
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I like neeps wrote: Fri Nov 22, 2024 9:04 am
robmatic wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2024 7:46 pm You would think Jake Henry could get recalled from his loan.

I presume this means Boff and Paterson aren't on their way back anytime soon.
I think Henry is injured as he never seems to be in Coventry's 15.

Agree that this shows the short termist thinking at Edinburgh. Really having Currie (not a winger) and McCann (27 years old 2 pro appearances) on the wings for Scotland A shows just how thin our winger depth is. I guess that Steyn, Smith, and Paterson are injured.
To be fair to Edinburgh, they have got Paterson, Sweeney, and Henry who should be stepping up but they are all basically never fit.
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robmatic wrote: Fri Nov 22, 2024 1:40 pm
I like neeps wrote: Fri Nov 22, 2024 9:04 am
robmatic wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2024 7:46 pm You would think Jake Henry could get recalled from his loan.

I presume this means Boff and Paterson aren't on their way back anytime soon.
I think Henry is injured as he never seems to be in Coventry's 15.

Agree that this shows the short termist thinking at Edinburgh. Really having Currie (not a winger) and McCann (27 years old 2 pro appearances) on the wings for Scotland A shows just how thin our winger depth is. I guess that Steyn, Smith, and Paterson are injured.
To be fair to Edinburgh, they have got Paterson, Sweeney, and Henry who should be stepping up but they are all basically never fit.
I'm my uneducated opinion it's because these lads don't play enough when they're 18-20 and their bodies don't get conditioned to the high level rugby they need to be playing
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
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Is the A game on TV tonight or a streaming service of some sort?
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vball wrote: Fri Nov 22, 2024 4:00 pm Is the A game on TV tonight or a streaming service of some sort?
No, but it's on tomorrow.
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
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No complaints about the team from me. Strongest side available imo.
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
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Biffer wrote: Fri Nov 22, 2024 4:01 pm
vball wrote: Fri Nov 22, 2024 4:00 pm Is the A game on TV tonight or a streaming service of some sort?
No, but it's on tomorrow.
BBC have picked it up so either BBC Scotland/Alba and or iPlayer.
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dpedin wrote: Fri Nov 22, 2024 4:15 pm
Biffer wrote: Fri Nov 22, 2024 4:01 pm
vball wrote: Fri Nov 22, 2024 4:00 pm Is the A game on TV tonight or a streaming service of some sort?
No, but it's on tomorrow.
BBC have picked it up so either BBC Scotland/Alba and or iPlayer.
Just the iplayer or Sports Scotland website. No proper channel coverage.
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Cheers folks .. got my days muddled up. Easier to do now I am retired !!
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Biffer wrote: Fri Nov 22, 2024 4:02 pm No complaints about the team from me. Strongest side available imo.
Team basically picks itself. Dempsey would have been at 8 but he isn’t fit. Ritchie over Bayliss probably the only marginal call in the starting XV
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Yr Alban wrote: Fri Nov 22, 2024 5:07 pm
Biffer wrote: Fri Nov 22, 2024 4:02 pm No complaints about the team from me. Strongest side available imo.
Team basically picks itself. Dempsey would have been at 8 but he isn’t fit. Ritchie over Bayliss probably the only marginal call in the starting XV

Ritchie will, imo, be in for his work over the ball and in the tight spaces in general - Bayliss is great playing in the wide channels. For me the choice makes absolute sense, it's not one over the other, it's that they are two different players.
I expect Darge and Ritchie to go after the breakdown big time.

Having Horne coming on means we are looking to up the pace rather than looking for control to close out a game and Bayliss augments that. Same for Rowe and Jordan, though Jordan as much for his ability to break through tackles as for pace as such.

Someone mentioned that Harry Paterson is injured. I missed that, was there a press release about it somewhere?
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Tichtheid wrote: Fri Nov 22, 2024 7:06 pm
Yr Alban wrote: Fri Nov 22, 2024 5:07 pm
Biffer wrote: Fri Nov 22, 2024 4:02 pm No complaints about the team from me. Strongest side available imo.
Team basically picks itself. Dempsey would have been at 8 but he isn’t fit. Ritchie over Bayliss probably the only marginal call in the starting XV

Ritchie will, imo, be in for his work over the ball and in the tight spaces in general - Bayliss is great playing in the wide channels. For me the choice makes absolute sense, it's not one over the other, it's that they are two different players.
I expect Darge and Ritchie to go after the breakdown big time.

Having Horne coming on means we are looking to up the pace rather than looking for control to close out a game and Bayliss augments that. Same for Rowe and Jordan, though Jordan as much for his ability to break through tackles as for pace as such.

Someone mentioned that Harry Paterson is injured. I missed that, was there a press release about it somewhere?
It was when Toony was talking about team selection for Portugal. Paterson was due to start at full back but got injured in training the day before the team was announced.
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topofthemoon wrote: Fri Nov 22, 2024 9:08 pm
Tichtheid wrote: Fri Nov 22, 2024 7:06 pm
Yr Alban wrote: Fri Nov 22, 2024 5:07 pm

Team basically picks itself. Dempsey would have been at 8 but he isn’t fit. Ritchie over Bayliss probably the only marginal call in the starting XV

Ritchie will, imo, be in for his work over the ball and in the tight spaces in general - Bayliss is great playing in the wide channels. For me the choice makes absolute sense, it's not one over the other, it's that they are two different players.
I expect Darge and Ritchie to go after the breakdown big time.

Having Horne coming on means we are looking to up the pace rather than looking for control to close out a game and Bayliss augments that. Same for Rowe and Jordan, though Jordan as much for his ability to break through tackles as for pace as such.

Someone mentioned that Harry Paterson is injured. I missed that, was there a press release about it somewhere?
It was when Toony was talking about team selection for Portugal. Paterson was due to start at full back but got injured in training the day before the team was announced.


Cheers, he has no luck at all.
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Tichtheid wrote: Fri Nov 22, 2024 9:27 pm
topofthemoon wrote: Fri Nov 22, 2024 9:08 pm
Tichtheid wrote: Fri Nov 22, 2024 7:06 pm


Ritchie will, imo, be in for his work over the ball and in the tight spaces in general - Bayliss is great playing in the wide channels. For me the choice makes absolute sense, it's not one over the other, it's that they are two different players.
I expect Darge and Ritchie to go after the breakdown big time.

Having Horne coming on means we are looking to up the pace rather than looking for control to close out a game and Bayliss augments that. Same for Rowe and Jordan, though Jordan as much for his ability to break through tackles as for pace as such.

Someone mentioned that Harry Paterson is injured. I missed that, was there a press release about it somewhere?
It was when Toony was talking about team selection for Portugal. Paterson was due to start at full back but got injured in training the day before the team was announced.


Cheers, he has no luck at all.
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Chile 5-7 up against the A team at HT
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Yr Alban wrote: Sat Nov 23, 2024 6:55 pm Chile 5-7 up against the A team at HT
I expected a better crowd.
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The A team honestly look like a scratch team who have never met before. Which maybe isn’t far from the truth, but I still expected better of them.
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It has been scrappy but there are fair reasons why it has been scrappy to be fair and they have been comfortable enough against a side who are a world cup team.

Douglas looks the real deal
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Big D wrote: Sat Nov 23, 2024 7:45 pm It has been scrappy but there are fair reasons why it has been scrappy to be fair and they have been comfortable enough against a side who are a world cup team.

Douglas looks the real deal


He does.

Matt Currie looks very classy too
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Classic Scotland at the end there
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If Everitt doesn't select Douglas he has to walk before Christmas
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Tichtheid wrote: Sat Nov 23, 2024 7:50 pm
Big D wrote: Sat Nov 23, 2024 7:45 pm It has been scrappy but there are fair reasons why it has been scrappy to be fair and they have been comfortable enough against a side who are a world cup team.

Douglas looks the real deal


He does.

Matt Currie looks very classy too
Currie is genuinely rapid. It's a shame Edinburgh don't get him free on the outside more often.
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Didn’t see any of the game, sounds a bit turgid
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Yr Alban wrote: Sat Nov 23, 2024 7:20 pm The A team honestly look like a scratch team who have never met before. Which maybe isn’t far from the truth, but I still expected better of them.
I did too but on reflection it's 'weaker' than an A side. 3 of those lads haven't even played for their club, another 2 have 3 games between them. They had a weeks prep and never really looked like losing despite the scoreline.

I have a proper sinking feeling that Douglas won't be seen again for another couple of seasons.
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Jock42 wrote: Sat Nov 23, 2024 11:26 pm
Yr Alban wrote: Sat Nov 23, 2024 7:20 pm The A team honestly look like a scratch team who have never met before. Which maybe isn’t far from the truth, but I still expected better of them.
I did too but on reflection it's 'weaker' than an A side. 3 of those lads haven't even played for their club, another 2 have 3 games between them. They had a weeks prep and never really looked like losing despite the scoreline.

I have a proper sinking feeling that Douglas won't be seen again for another couple of seasons.
Rumours that Bristol are sniffing round him, hence the caps.
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Jock42 wrote: Sat Nov 23, 2024 11:26 pm
Yr Alban wrote: Sat Nov 23, 2024 7:20 pm The A team honestly look like a scratch team who have never met before. Which maybe isn’t far from the truth, but I still expected better of them.
I did too but on reflection it's 'weaker' than an A side. 3 of those lads haven't even played for their club, another 2 have 3 games between them. They had a weeks prep and never really looked like losing despite the scoreline.

I have a proper sinking feeling that Douglas won't be seen again for another couple of seasons.
Agree with TH on this. If he doesn't have gametime before the turn of the year then Everitt should be sacked.
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Big D wrote: Sun Nov 24, 2024 9:32 am
Jock42 wrote: Sat Nov 23, 2024 11:26 pm
Yr Alban wrote: Sat Nov 23, 2024 7:20 pm The A team honestly look like a scratch team who have never met before. Which maybe isn’t far from the truth, but I still expected better of them.
I did too but on reflection it's 'weaker' than an A side. 3 of those lads haven't even played for their club, another 2 have 3 games between them. They had a weeks prep and never really looked like losing despite the scoreline.

I have a proper sinking feeling that Douglas won't be seen again for another couple of seasons.
Agree with TH on this. If he doesn't have gametime before the turn of the year then Everitt should be sacked.
Dropping a senior player like Mish is a pretty radical step for an Edinburgh coach but it seems like the instructions coming down from Toonie are pretty clear.
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That was good in the end. The passing in the backs was unusually poor but you have to think that was just a bad day.

Defence won us the game really, Aussies didn’t really know what to do and making no real ground at all, really excellent.

Ritchie and Cummings were my picks of the day with Z Fagerson not far behind. Finn did a nice job as well. Kinghorn had a very good game as well - not sure he was man of the match but a very eloquent interview, so why not.

Still some totally unnecessary and stupid penalties when our defence was clearly on top anyway which is annoying
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Slick wrote: Sun Nov 24, 2024 3:51 pm That was good in the end. The passing in the backs was unusually poor but you have to think that was just a bad day.

Defence won us the game really, Aussies didn’t really know what to do and making no real ground at all, really excellent.

Ritchie and Cummings were my picks of the day with Z Fagerson not far behind. Finn did a nice job as well. Kinghorn had a very good game as well - not sure he was man of the match but a very eloquent interview, so why not.

Still some totally unnecessary and stupid penalties when our defence was clearly on top anyway which is annoying
Kinghorn was very good at kick offs too. Thought the back three connected well at times.

GG was good at maul time.

Would like to see player stats but ESPN don't do them now.
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Big D wrote: Sun Nov 24, 2024 3:57 pm
Slick wrote: Sun Nov 24, 2024 3:51 pm That was good in the end. The passing in the backs was unusually poor but you have to think that was just a bad day.

Defence won us the game really, Aussies didn’t really know what to do and making no real ground at all, really excellent.

Ritchie and Cummings were my picks of the day with Z Fagerson not far behind. Finn did a nice job as well. Kinghorn had a very good game as well - not sure he was man of the match but a very eloquent interview, so why not.

Still some totally unnecessary and stupid penalties when our defence was clearly on top anyway which is annoying
Kinghorn was very good at kick offs too. Thought the back three connected well at times.

GG was good at maul time.

Would like to see player stats but ESPN don't do them now.
Rugbypass do player stats. Format is a bit rubbish for doing a comparison or seeing an individual player's numbers at a glance but better than nothing.

https://www.rugbypass.com/live/australi ... /?g=941818
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It's great that we can beat Australia well, in a game that I never really felt we were going to lose, but what a horrifically frustrating performance. They only really got their shit together in attack for 15 minutes which was luckily enough to put the game beyond doubt, but the amount of unforced errors was very disappointing.

I thought Ritchie and Fagerson (Z) were the standout performers in the pack and Kinghorn the best in a misfiring back line.
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topofthemoon wrote: Sun Nov 24, 2024 4:18 pm
Big D wrote: Sun Nov 24, 2024 3:57 pm
Slick wrote: Sun Nov 24, 2024 3:51 pm That was good in the end. The passing in the backs was unusually poor but you have to think that was just a bad day.

Defence won us the game really, Aussies didn’t really know what to do and making no real ground at all, really excellent.

Ritchie and Cummings were my picks of the day with Z Fagerson not far behind. Finn did a nice job as well. Kinghorn had a very good game as well - not sure he was man of the match but a very eloquent interview, so why not.

Still some totally unnecessary and stupid penalties when our defence was clearly on top anyway which is annoying
Kinghorn was very good at kick offs too. Thought the back three connected well at times.

GG was good at maul time.

Would like to see player stats but ESPN don't do them now.
Rugbypass do player stats. Format is a bit rubbish for doing a comparison or seeing an individual player's numbers at a glance but better than nothing.

https://www.rugbypass.com/live/australi ... /?g=941818
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