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Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2024 3:52 pm
by Jock42
Hoyland back short term

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2024 5:52 pm
by weegie01
Jock42 wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2024 3:52 pmHoyland back short term
This is pointless. He may plug a gap for a short time, but no disprespect to Hoyland, I'd rather a young player who'd give their eye teeth to have a chance with Edinburgh was given the chance.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2024 6:51 pm
by Big D
Jock42 wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2024 3:52 pm Hoyland back short term
Why? This is emblematic of everything that is wrong with Edinburgh.

McCann and Brown good enough for Scotland A but Edinburgh need Hoyland? There must be academy and prem lads who could step in and get the experience surely?

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2024 7:46 pm
by robmatic
You would think Jake Henry could get recalled from his loan.

I presume this means Boff and Paterson aren't on their way back anytime soon.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2024 9:04 am
by I like neeps
robmatic wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2024 7:46 pm You would think Jake Henry could get recalled from his loan.

I presume this means Boff and Paterson aren't on their way back anytime soon.
I think Henry is injured as he never seems to be in Coventry's 15.

Agree that this shows the short termist thinking at Edinburgh. Really having Currie (not a winger) and McCann (27 years old 2 pro appearances) on the wings for Scotland A shows just how thin our winger depth is. I guess that Steyn, Smith, and Paterson are injured.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2024 11:04 am
by KingBlairhorn
I like neeps wrote: Fri Nov 22, 2024 9:04 am
robmatic wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2024 7:46 pm You would think Jake Henry could get recalled from his loan.

I presume this means Boff and Paterson aren't on their way back anytime soon.
I think Henry is injured as he never seems to be in Coventry's 15.

Agree that this shows the short termist thinking at Edinburgh. Really having Currie (not a winger) and McCann (27 years old 2 pro appearances) on the wings for Scotland A shows just how thin our winger depth is. I guess that Steyn, Smith, and Paterson are injured.
It's incredibly poor. The best U20 wingers have been aligned to Glasgow in the last few years (McKnight, Caqusau, maybe Logan Jarvie) but none of them are involved in the A squad nor for Glasgow. I think Caqusau is the only one still involved in pro rugby but information is hard to come by. It just seems like very poor planning.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2024 11:51 am
by Jockaline
A game live on Iplayer by the looks of it.

https://x.com/Scotlandteam/status/1859597626695352671

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2024 12:30 pm
by Slick
Jockaline wrote: Fri Nov 22, 2024 11:51 am A game live on Iplayer by the looks of it.

https://x.com/Scotlandteam/status/1859597626695352671
Do you know kick off time?

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2024 12:35 pm
by charltom
Slick wrote: Fri Nov 22, 2024 12:30 pm
Jockaline wrote: Fri Nov 22, 2024 11:51 am A game live on Iplayer by the looks of it.

https://x.com/Scotlandteam/status/1859597626695352671
Do you know kick off time?
6pm IIRC.

Would love to know if there is any way to record a match shown on iPlayer, or to watch it later. They often don't keep all programmes...

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2024 1:40 pm
by robmatic
I like neeps wrote: Fri Nov 22, 2024 9:04 am
robmatic wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2024 7:46 pm You would think Jake Henry could get recalled from his loan.

I presume this means Boff and Paterson aren't on their way back anytime soon.
I think Henry is injured as he never seems to be in Coventry's 15.

Agree that this shows the short termist thinking at Edinburgh. Really having Currie (not a winger) and McCann (27 years old 2 pro appearances) on the wings for Scotland A shows just how thin our winger depth is. I guess that Steyn, Smith, and Paterson are injured.
To be fair to Edinburgh, they have got Paterson, Sweeney, and Henry who should be stepping up but they are all basically never fit.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2024 2:46 pm
by Biffer
robmatic wrote: Fri Nov 22, 2024 1:40 pm
I like neeps wrote: Fri Nov 22, 2024 9:04 am
robmatic wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2024 7:46 pm You would think Jake Henry could get recalled from his loan.

I presume this means Boff and Paterson aren't on their way back anytime soon.
I think Henry is injured as he never seems to be in Coventry's 15.

Agree that this shows the short termist thinking at Edinburgh. Really having Currie (not a winger) and McCann (27 years old 2 pro appearances) on the wings for Scotland A shows just how thin our winger depth is. I guess that Steyn, Smith, and Paterson are injured.
To be fair to Edinburgh, they have got Paterson, Sweeney, and Henry who should be stepping up but they are all basically never fit.
I'm my uneducated opinion it's because these lads don't play enough when they're 18-20 and their bodies don't get conditioned to the high level rugby they need to be playing

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2024 4:00 pm
by vball
Is the A game on TV tonight or a streaming service of some sort?

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2024 4:01 pm
by Biffer
vball wrote: Fri Nov 22, 2024 4:00 pm Is the A game on TV tonight or a streaming service of some sort?
No, but it's on tomorrow.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2024 4:02 pm
by Biffer
No complaints about the team from me. Strongest side available imo.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2024 4:15 pm
by dpedin
Biffer wrote: Fri Nov 22, 2024 4:01 pm
vball wrote: Fri Nov 22, 2024 4:00 pm Is the A game on TV tonight or a streaming service of some sort?
No, but it's on tomorrow.
BBC have picked it up so either BBC Scotland/Alba and or iPlayer.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2024 4:41 pm
by GrahamWa
dpedin wrote: Fri Nov 22, 2024 4:15 pm
Biffer wrote: Fri Nov 22, 2024 4:01 pm
vball wrote: Fri Nov 22, 2024 4:00 pm Is the A game on TV tonight or a streaming service of some sort?
No, but it's on tomorrow.
BBC have picked it up so either BBC Scotland/Alba and or iPlayer.
Just the iplayer or Sports Scotland website. No proper channel coverage.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2024 4:59 pm
by vball
Cheers folks .. got my days muddled up. Easier to do now I am retired !!

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2024 5:07 pm
by Yr Alban
Biffer wrote: Fri Nov 22, 2024 4:02 pm No complaints about the team from me. Strongest side available imo.
Team basically picks itself. Dempsey would have been at 8 but he isn’t fit. Ritchie over Bayliss probably the only marginal call in the starting XV

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2024 7:06 pm
by Tichtheid
Yr Alban wrote: Fri Nov 22, 2024 5:07 pm
Biffer wrote: Fri Nov 22, 2024 4:02 pm No complaints about the team from me. Strongest side available imo.
Team basically picks itself. Dempsey would have been at 8 but he isn’t fit. Ritchie over Bayliss probably the only marginal call in the starting XV

Ritchie will, imo, be in for his work over the ball and in the tight spaces in general - Bayliss is great playing in the wide channels. For me the choice makes absolute sense, it's not one over the other, it's that they are two different players.
I expect Darge and Ritchie to go after the breakdown big time.

Having Horne coming on means we are looking to up the pace rather than looking for control to close out a game and Bayliss augments that. Same for Rowe and Jordan, though Jordan as much for his ability to break through tackles as for pace as such.

Someone mentioned that Harry Paterson is injured. I missed that, was there a press release about it somewhere?

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2024 9:08 pm
by topofthemoon
Tichtheid wrote: Fri Nov 22, 2024 7:06 pm
Yr Alban wrote: Fri Nov 22, 2024 5:07 pm
Biffer wrote: Fri Nov 22, 2024 4:02 pm No complaints about the team from me. Strongest side available imo.
Team basically picks itself. Dempsey would have been at 8 but he isn’t fit. Ritchie over Bayliss probably the only marginal call in the starting XV

Ritchie will, imo, be in for his work over the ball and in the tight spaces in general - Bayliss is great playing in the wide channels. For me the choice makes absolute sense, it's not one over the other, it's that they are two different players.
I expect Darge and Ritchie to go after the breakdown big time.

Having Horne coming on means we are looking to up the pace rather than looking for control to close out a game and Bayliss augments that. Same for Rowe and Jordan, though Jordan as much for his ability to break through tackles as for pace as such.

Someone mentioned that Harry Paterson is injured. I missed that, was there a press release about it somewhere?
It was when Toony was talking about team selection for Portugal. Paterson was due to start at full back but got injured in training the day before the team was announced.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2024 9:27 pm
by Tichtheid
topofthemoon wrote: Fri Nov 22, 2024 9:08 pm
Tichtheid wrote: Fri Nov 22, 2024 7:06 pm
Yr Alban wrote: Fri Nov 22, 2024 5:07 pm

Team basically picks itself. Dempsey would have been at 8 but he isn’t fit. Ritchie over Bayliss probably the only marginal call in the starting XV

Ritchie will, imo, be in for his work over the ball and in the tight spaces in general - Bayliss is great playing in the wide channels. For me the choice makes absolute sense, it's not one over the other, it's that they are two different players.
I expect Darge and Ritchie to go after the breakdown big time.

Having Horne coming on means we are looking to up the pace rather than looking for control to close out a game and Bayliss augments that. Same for Rowe and Jordan, though Jordan as much for his ability to break through tackles as for pace as such.

Someone mentioned that Harry Paterson is injured. I missed that, was there a press release about it somewhere?
It was when Toony was talking about team selection for Portugal. Paterson was due to start at full back but got injured in training the day before the team was announced.


Cheers, he has no luck at all.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2024 10:41 pm
by Slick
Tichtheid wrote: Fri Nov 22, 2024 9:27 pm
topofthemoon wrote: Fri Nov 22, 2024 9:08 pm
Tichtheid wrote: Fri Nov 22, 2024 7:06 pm


Ritchie will, imo, be in for his work over the ball and in the tight spaces in general - Bayliss is great playing in the wide channels. For me the choice makes absolute sense, it's not one over the other, it's that they are two different players.
I expect Darge and Ritchie to go after the breakdown big time.

Having Horne coming on means we are looking to up the pace rather than looking for control to close out a game and Bayliss augments that. Same for Rowe and Jordan, though Jordan as much for his ability to break through tackles as for pace as such.

Someone mentioned that Harry Paterson is injured. I missed that, was there a press release about it somewhere?
It was when Toony was talking about team selection for Portugal. Paterson was due to start at full back but got injured in training the day before the team was announced.


Cheers, he has no luck at all.
Yes, would have loved to have seen him this Autumn

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2024 6:55 pm
by Yr Alban
Chile 5-7 up against the A team at HT

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2024 7:06 pm
by robmatic
Yr Alban wrote: Sat Nov 23, 2024 6:55 pm Chile 5-7 up against the A team at HT
I expected a better crowd.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2024 7:20 pm
by Yr Alban
The A team honestly look like a scratch team who have never met before. Which maybe isn’t far from the truth, but I still expected better of them.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2024 7:45 pm
by Big D
It has been scrappy but there are fair reasons why it has been scrappy to be fair and they have been comfortable enough against a side who are a world cup team.

Douglas looks the real deal

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2024 7:50 pm
by Tichtheid
Big D wrote: Sat Nov 23, 2024 7:45 pm It has been scrappy but there are fair reasons why it has been scrappy to be fair and they have been comfortable enough against a side who are a world cup team.

Douglas looks the real deal


He does.

Matt Currie looks very classy too

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2024 7:51 pm
by Tichtheid
Classic Scotland at the end there

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2024 7:54 pm
by Tichtheid
If Everitt doesn't select Douglas he has to walk before Christmas

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2024 7:57 pm
by robmatic
Tichtheid wrote: Sat Nov 23, 2024 7:50 pm
Big D wrote: Sat Nov 23, 2024 7:45 pm It has been scrappy but there are fair reasons why it has been scrappy to be fair and they have been comfortable enough against a side who are a world cup team.

Douglas looks the real deal


He does.

Matt Currie looks very classy too
Currie is genuinely rapid. It's a shame Edinburgh don't get him free on the outside more often.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2024 11:11 pm
by Slick
Didn’t see any of the game, sounds a bit turgid

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2024 11:26 pm
by Jock42
Yr Alban wrote: Sat Nov 23, 2024 7:20 pm The A team honestly look like a scratch team who have never met before. Which maybe isn’t far from the truth, but I still expected better of them.
I did too but on reflection it's 'weaker' than an A side. 3 of those lads haven't even played for their club, another 2 have 3 games between them. They had a weeks prep and never really looked like losing despite the scoreline.

I have a proper sinking feeling that Douglas won't be seen again for another couple of seasons.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2024 8:21 am
by dpedin
Jock42 wrote: Sat Nov 23, 2024 11:26 pm
Yr Alban wrote: Sat Nov 23, 2024 7:20 pm The A team honestly look like a scratch team who have never met before. Which maybe isn’t far from the truth, but I still expected better of them.
I did too but on reflection it's 'weaker' than an A side. 3 of those lads haven't even played for their club, another 2 have 3 games between them. They had a weeks prep and never really looked like losing despite the scoreline.

I have a proper sinking feeling that Douglas won't be seen again for another couple of seasons.
Rumours that Bristol are sniffing round him, hence the caps.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2024 9:32 am
by Big D
Jock42 wrote: Sat Nov 23, 2024 11:26 pm
Yr Alban wrote: Sat Nov 23, 2024 7:20 pm The A team honestly look like a scratch team who have never met before. Which maybe isn’t far from the truth, but I still expected better of them.
I did too but on reflection it's 'weaker' than an A side. 3 of those lads haven't even played for their club, another 2 have 3 games between them. They had a weeks prep and never really looked like losing despite the scoreline.

I have a proper sinking feeling that Douglas won't be seen again for another couple of seasons.
Agree with TH on this. If he doesn't have gametime before the turn of the year then Everitt should be sacked.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2024 9:44 am
by robmatic
Big D wrote: Sun Nov 24, 2024 9:32 am
Jock42 wrote: Sat Nov 23, 2024 11:26 pm
Yr Alban wrote: Sat Nov 23, 2024 7:20 pm The A team honestly look like a scratch team who have never met before. Which maybe isn’t far from the truth, but I still expected better of them.
I did too but on reflection it's 'weaker' than an A side. 3 of those lads haven't even played for their club, another 2 have 3 games between them. They had a weeks prep and never really looked like losing despite the scoreline.

I have a proper sinking feeling that Douglas won't be seen again for another couple of seasons.
Agree with TH on this. If he doesn't have gametime before the turn of the year then Everitt should be sacked.
Dropping a senior player like Mish is a pretty radical step for an Edinburgh coach but it seems like the instructions coming down from Toonie are pretty clear.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2024 3:51 pm
by Slick
That was good in the end. The passing in the backs was unusually poor but you have to think that was just a bad day.

Defence won us the game really, Aussies didn’t really know what to do and making no real ground at all, really excellent.

Ritchie and Cummings were my picks of the day with Z Fagerson not far behind. Finn did a nice job as well. Kinghorn had a very good game as well - not sure he was man of the match but a very eloquent interview, so why not.

Still some totally unnecessary and stupid penalties when our defence was clearly on top anyway which is annoying

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2024 3:57 pm
by Big D
Slick wrote: Sun Nov 24, 2024 3:51 pm That was good in the end. The passing in the backs was unusually poor but you have to think that was just a bad day.

Defence won us the game really, Aussies didn’t really know what to do and making no real ground at all, really excellent.

Ritchie and Cummings were my picks of the day with Z Fagerson not far behind. Finn did a nice job as well. Kinghorn had a very good game as well - not sure he was man of the match but a very eloquent interview, so why not.

Still some totally unnecessary and stupid penalties when our defence was clearly on top anyway which is annoying
Kinghorn was very good at kick offs too. Thought the back three connected well at times.

GG was good at maul time.

Would like to see player stats but ESPN don't do them now.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2024 4:18 pm
by topofthemoon
Big D wrote: Sun Nov 24, 2024 3:57 pm
Slick wrote: Sun Nov 24, 2024 3:51 pm That was good in the end. The passing in the backs was unusually poor but you have to think that was just a bad day.

Defence won us the game really, Aussies didn’t really know what to do and making no real ground at all, really excellent.

Ritchie and Cummings were my picks of the day with Z Fagerson not far behind. Finn did a nice job as well. Kinghorn had a very good game as well - not sure he was man of the match but a very eloquent interview, so why not.

Still some totally unnecessary and stupid penalties when our defence was clearly on top anyway which is annoying
Kinghorn was very good at kick offs too. Thought the back three connected well at times.

GG was good at maul time.

Would like to see player stats but ESPN don't do them now.
Rugbypass do player stats. Format is a bit rubbish for doing a comparison or seeing an individual player's numbers at a glance but better than nothing.

https://www.rugbypass.com/live/australi ... /?g=941818

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2024 4:31 pm
by Blackmac
It's great that we can beat Australia well, in a game that I never really felt we were going to lose, but what a horrifically frustrating performance. They only really got their shit together in attack for 15 minutes which was luckily enough to put the game beyond doubt, but the amount of unforced errors was very disappointing.

I thought Ritchie and Fagerson (Z) were the standout performers in the pack and Kinghorn the best in a misfiring back line.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2024 4:33 pm
by Big D
topofthemoon wrote: Sun Nov 24, 2024 4:18 pm
Big D wrote: Sun Nov 24, 2024 3:57 pm
Slick wrote: Sun Nov 24, 2024 3:51 pm That was good in the end. The passing in the backs was unusually poor but you have to think that was just a bad day.

Defence won us the game really, Aussies didn’t really know what to do and making no real ground at all, really excellent.

Ritchie and Cummings were my picks of the day with Z Fagerson not far behind. Finn did a nice job as well. Kinghorn had a very good game as well - not sure he was man of the match but a very eloquent interview, so why not.

Still some totally unnecessary and stupid penalties when our defence was clearly on top anyway which is annoying
Kinghorn was very good at kick offs too. Thought the back three connected well at times.

GG was good at maul time.

Would like to see player stats but ESPN don't do them now.
Rugbypass do player stats. Format is a bit rubbish for doing a comparison or seeing an individual player's numbers at a glance but better than nothing.

https://www.rugbypass.com/live/australi ... /?g=941818
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