Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread
Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2024 3:52 pm
Hoyland back short term
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This is pointless. He may plug a gap for a short time, but no disprespect to Hoyland, I'd rather a young player who'd give their eye teeth to have a chance with Edinburgh was given the chance.
Why? This is emblematic of everything that is wrong with Edinburgh.
I think Henry is injured as he never seems to be in Coventry's 15.robmatic wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2024 7:46 pm You would think Jake Henry could get recalled from his loan.
I presume this means Boff and Paterson aren't on their way back anytime soon.
It's incredibly poor. The best U20 wingers have been aligned to Glasgow in the last few years (McKnight, Caqusau, maybe Logan Jarvie) but none of them are involved in the A squad nor for Glasgow. I think Caqusau is the only one still involved in pro rugby but information is hard to come by. It just seems like very poor planning.I like neeps wrote: Fri Nov 22, 2024 9:04 amI think Henry is injured as he never seems to be in Coventry's 15.robmatic wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2024 7:46 pm You would think Jake Henry could get recalled from his loan.
I presume this means Boff and Paterson aren't on their way back anytime soon.
Agree that this shows the short termist thinking at Edinburgh. Really having Currie (not a winger) and McCann (27 years old 2 pro appearances) on the wings for Scotland A shows just how thin our winger depth is. I guess that Steyn, Smith, and Paterson are injured.
Do you know kick off time?Jockaline wrote: Fri Nov 22, 2024 11:51 am A game live on Iplayer by the looks of it.
https://x.com/Scotlandteam/status/1859597626695352671
6pm IIRC.Slick wrote: Fri Nov 22, 2024 12:30 pmDo you know kick off time?Jockaline wrote: Fri Nov 22, 2024 11:51 am A game live on Iplayer by the looks of it.
https://x.com/Scotlandteam/status/1859597626695352671
To be fair to Edinburgh, they have got Paterson, Sweeney, and Henry who should be stepping up but they are all basically never fit.I like neeps wrote: Fri Nov 22, 2024 9:04 amI think Henry is injured as he never seems to be in Coventry's 15.robmatic wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2024 7:46 pm You would think Jake Henry could get recalled from his loan.
I presume this means Boff and Paterson aren't on their way back anytime soon.
Agree that this shows the short termist thinking at Edinburgh. Really having Currie (not a winger) and McCann (27 years old 2 pro appearances) on the wings for Scotland A shows just how thin our winger depth is. I guess that Steyn, Smith, and Paterson are injured.
I'm my uneducated opinion it's because these lads don't play enough when they're 18-20 and their bodies don't get conditioned to the high level rugby they need to be playingrobmatic wrote: Fri Nov 22, 2024 1:40 pmTo be fair to Edinburgh, they have got Paterson, Sweeney, and Henry who should be stepping up but they are all basically never fit.I like neeps wrote: Fri Nov 22, 2024 9:04 amI think Henry is injured as he never seems to be in Coventry's 15.robmatic wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2024 7:46 pm You would think Jake Henry could get recalled from his loan.
I presume this means Boff and Paterson aren't on their way back anytime soon.
Agree that this shows the short termist thinking at Edinburgh. Really having Currie (not a winger) and McCann (27 years old 2 pro appearances) on the wings for Scotland A shows just how thin our winger depth is. I guess that Steyn, Smith, and Paterson are injured.
No, but it's on tomorrow.vball wrote: Fri Nov 22, 2024 4:00 pm Is the A game on TV tonight or a streaming service of some sort?
Just the iplayer or Sports Scotland website. No proper channel coverage.
Team basically picks itself. Dempsey would have been at 8 but he isn’t fit. Ritchie over Bayliss probably the only marginal call in the starting XVBiffer wrote: Fri Nov 22, 2024 4:02 pm No complaints about the team from me. Strongest side available imo.
It was when Toony was talking about team selection for Portugal. Paterson was due to start at full back but got injured in training the day before the team was announced.Tichtheid wrote: Fri Nov 22, 2024 7:06 pm
Ritchie will, imo, be in for his work over the ball and in the tight spaces in general - Bayliss is great playing in the wide channels. For me the choice makes absolute sense, it's not one over the other, it's that they are two different players.
I expect Darge and Ritchie to go after the breakdown big time.
Having Horne coming on means we are looking to up the pace rather than looking for control to close out a game and Bayliss augments that. Same for Rowe and Jordan, though Jordan as much for his ability to break through tackles as for pace as such.
Someone mentioned that Harry Paterson is injured. I missed that, was there a press release about it somewhere?
topofthemoon wrote: Fri Nov 22, 2024 9:08 pmIt was when Toony was talking about team selection for Portugal. Paterson was due to start at full back but got injured in training the day before the team was announced.Tichtheid wrote: Fri Nov 22, 2024 7:06 pmYr Alban wrote: Fri Nov 22, 2024 5:07 pm
Team basically picks itself. Dempsey would have been at 8 but he isn’t fit. Ritchie over Bayliss probably the only marginal call in the starting XV
Ritchie will, imo, be in for his work over the ball and in the tight spaces in general - Bayliss is great playing in the wide channels. For me the choice makes absolute sense, it's not one over the other, it's that they are two different players.
I expect Darge and Ritchie to go after the breakdown big time.
Having Horne coming on means we are looking to up the pace rather than looking for control to close out a game and Bayliss augments that. Same for Rowe and Jordan, though Jordan as much for his ability to break through tackles as for pace as such.
Someone mentioned that Harry Paterson is injured. I missed that, was there a press release about it somewhere?
Yes, would have loved to have seen him this AutumnTichtheid wrote: Fri Nov 22, 2024 9:27 pmtopofthemoon wrote: Fri Nov 22, 2024 9:08 pmIt was when Toony was talking about team selection for Portugal. Paterson was due to start at full back but got injured in training the day before the team was announced.Tichtheid wrote: Fri Nov 22, 2024 7:06 pm
Ritchie will, imo, be in for his work over the ball and in the tight spaces in general - Bayliss is great playing in the wide channels. For me the choice makes absolute sense, it's not one over the other, it's that they are two different players.
I expect Darge and Ritchie to go after the breakdown big time.
Having Horne coming on means we are looking to up the pace rather than looking for control to close out a game and Bayliss augments that. Same for Rowe and Jordan, though Jordan as much for his ability to break through tackles as for pace as such.
Someone mentioned that Harry Paterson is injured. I missed that, was there a press release about it somewhere?
Cheers, he has no luck at all.
I expected a better crowd.
Big D wrote: Sat Nov 23, 2024 7:45 pm It has been scrappy but there are fair reasons why it has been scrappy to be fair and they have been comfortable enough against a side who are a world cup team.
Douglas looks the real deal
Currie is genuinely rapid. It's a shame Edinburgh don't get him free on the outside more often.Tichtheid wrote: Sat Nov 23, 2024 7:50 pmBig D wrote: Sat Nov 23, 2024 7:45 pm It has been scrappy but there are fair reasons why it has been scrappy to be fair and they have been comfortable enough against a side who are a world cup team.
Douglas looks the real deal
He does.
Matt Currie looks very classy too
I did too but on reflection it's 'weaker' than an A side. 3 of those lads haven't even played for their club, another 2 have 3 games between them. They had a weeks prep and never really looked like losing despite the scoreline.Yr Alban wrote: Sat Nov 23, 2024 7:20 pm The A team honestly look like a scratch team who have never met before. Which maybe isn’t far from the truth, but I still expected better of them.
Rumours that Bristol are sniffing round him, hence the caps.Jock42 wrote: Sat Nov 23, 2024 11:26 pmI did too but on reflection it's 'weaker' than an A side. 3 of those lads haven't even played for their club, another 2 have 3 games between them. They had a weeks prep and never really looked like losing despite the scoreline.Yr Alban wrote: Sat Nov 23, 2024 7:20 pm The A team honestly look like a scratch team who have never met before. Which maybe isn’t far from the truth, but I still expected better of them.
I have a proper sinking feeling that Douglas won't be seen again for another couple of seasons.
Agree with TH on this. If he doesn't have gametime before the turn of the year then Everitt should be sacked.Jock42 wrote: Sat Nov 23, 2024 11:26 pmI did too but on reflection it's 'weaker' than an A side. 3 of those lads haven't even played for their club, another 2 have 3 games between them. They had a weeks prep and never really looked like losing despite the scoreline.Yr Alban wrote: Sat Nov 23, 2024 7:20 pm The A team honestly look like a scratch team who have never met before. Which maybe isn’t far from the truth, but I still expected better of them.
I have a proper sinking feeling that Douglas won't be seen again for another couple of seasons.
Dropping a senior player like Mish is a pretty radical step for an Edinburgh coach but it seems like the instructions coming down from Toonie are pretty clear.Big D wrote: Sun Nov 24, 2024 9:32 amAgree with TH on this. If he doesn't have gametime before the turn of the year then Everitt should be sacked.Jock42 wrote: Sat Nov 23, 2024 11:26 pmI did too but on reflection it's 'weaker' than an A side. 3 of those lads haven't even played for their club, another 2 have 3 games between them. They had a weeks prep and never really looked like losing despite the scoreline.Yr Alban wrote: Sat Nov 23, 2024 7:20 pm The A team honestly look like a scratch team who have never met before. Which maybe isn’t far from the truth, but I still expected better of them.
I have a proper sinking feeling that Douglas won't be seen again for another couple of seasons.
Kinghorn was very good at kick offs too. Thought the back three connected well at times.Slick wrote: Sun Nov 24, 2024 3:51 pm That was good in the end. The passing in the backs was unusually poor but you have to think that was just a bad day.
Defence won us the game really, Aussies didn’t really know what to do and making no real ground at all, really excellent.
Ritchie and Cummings were my picks of the day with Z Fagerson not far behind. Finn did a nice job as well. Kinghorn had a very good game as well - not sure he was man of the match but a very eloquent interview, so why not.
Still some totally unnecessary and stupid penalties when our defence was clearly on top anyway which is annoying
Rugbypass do player stats. Format is a bit rubbish for doing a comparison or seeing an individual player's numbers at a glance but better than nothing.Big D wrote: Sun Nov 24, 2024 3:57 pmKinghorn was very good at kick offs too. Thought the back three connected well at times.Slick wrote: Sun Nov 24, 2024 3:51 pm That was good in the end. The passing in the backs was unusually poor but you have to think that was just a bad day.
Defence won us the game really, Aussies didn’t really know what to do and making no real ground at all, really excellent.
Ritchie and Cummings were my picks of the day with Z Fagerson not far behind. Finn did a nice job as well. Kinghorn had a very good game as well - not sure he was man of the match but a very eloquent interview, so why not.
Still some totally unnecessary and stupid penalties when our defence was clearly on top anyway which is annoying
GG was good at maul time.
Would like to see player stats but ESPN don't do them now.
Tatopofthemoon wrote: Sun Nov 24, 2024 4:18 pmRugbypass do player stats. Format is a bit rubbish for doing a comparison or seeing an individual player's numbers at a glance but better than nothing.Big D wrote: Sun Nov 24, 2024 3:57 pmKinghorn was very good at kick offs too. Thought the back three connected well at times.Slick wrote: Sun Nov 24, 2024 3:51 pm That was good in the end. The passing in the backs was unusually poor but you have to think that was just a bad day.
Defence won us the game really, Aussies didn’t really know what to do and making no real ground at all, really excellent.
Ritchie and Cummings were my picks of the day with Z Fagerson not far behind. Finn did a nice job as well. Kinghorn had a very good game as well - not sure he was man of the match but a very eloquent interview, so why not.
Still some totally unnecessary and stupid penalties when our defence was clearly on top anyway which is annoying
GG was good at maul time.
Would like to see player stats but ESPN don't do them now.
https://www.rugbypass.com/live/australi ... /?g=941818