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Re: F**ked up Facts
Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2021 2:59 pm
by Biffer
The Boötes void, sometimes called the Great Void, is a huge, spherical region of space that contains very few galaxies. It's approximately 700 million light years from Earth and located near the constellation Boötes, which is how it got its name. The supervoid measures 250 million light-years in diameter, representing approximately 0.27% of the diameter of the observable universe, which itself is a daunting 93 billion light-years across. Its volume is estimated at 236,000 Mcp3 , making it the largest known void in the Universe.
At first, astronomers were only able to find eight galaxies across the expanse, but further observations revealed a total of 60 galaxies. Now, while that might still seem like a lot, it would be like stumbling upon ONLY 60 objects across a region larger than the continental United States (and that's just in two dimensions). According to astronomer Greg Aldering, the scale of the void is such that, "If the Milky Way had been in the center of the Boötes void, we wouldn't have known there were other galaxies until the 1960s." Looking at the volume of the Boötes void, it should contain about 10,000 galaxies, when considering that the average distance between galaxies elsewhere in the universe is a few million light-years.
But the question is....why and how this void came to be. There hasn't been enough time since the universe began for mere gravitational forces to clear out a space of that size. There's a theory which suggests that supervoids are caused by the intermingling of smaller mini voids, like soapbubbles coming together.
But a more...maybe creepier...explanation is that the Boötes void could be the result of an expanding Kardashev III scale civilization. As the colonization bubble expands outward from its home system, the civilization dims each star (and subsequently each galaxy) it encounters by blanketing it in a Dyson shell. This might also explain why the void has such a nice, spherical shape.
Oh and we're seeing a snapshot of The Void 700million years ago. A lot could have happened in 700 million years that we just cannot see/know due to the inherant speed of light.
Sleep well.
Re: F**ked up Facts
Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2021 3:52 pm
by Grandpa
Biffer wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 2:59 pm
The Boötes void, sometimes called the Great Void, is a huge, spherical region of space that contains very few galaxies. It's approximately 700 million light years from Earth and located near the constellation Boötes, which is how it got its name. The supervoid measures 250 million light-years in diameter, representing approximately 0.27% of the diameter of the observable universe, which itself is a daunting 93 billion light-years across. Its volume is estimated at 236,000 Mcp3 , making it the largest known void in the Universe.
At first, astronomers were only able to find eight galaxies across the expanse, but further observations revealed a total of 60 galaxies. Now, while that might still seem like a lot, it would be like stumbling upon ONLY 60 objects across a region larger than the continental United States (and that's just in two dimensions). According to astronomer Greg Aldering, the scale of the void is such that, "If the Milky Way had been in the center of the Boötes void, we wouldn't have known there were other galaxies until the 1960s." Looking at the volume of the Boötes void, it should contain about 10,000 galaxies, when considering that the average distance between galaxies elsewhere in the universe is a few million light-years.
But the question is....why and how this void came to be. There hasn't been enough time since the universe began for mere gravitational forces to clear out a space of that size. There's a theory which suggests that supervoids are caused by the intermingling of smaller mini voids, like soapbubbles coming together.
But a more...maybe creepier...explanation is that the Boötes void could be the result of an expanding Kardashev III scale civilization. As the colonization bubble expands outward from its home system, the civilization dims each star (and subsequently each galaxy) it encounters by blanketing it in a Dyson shell. This might also explain why the void has such a nice, spherical shape.
Oh and we're seeing a snapshot of The Void 700million years ago. A lot could have happened in 700 million years that we just cannot see/know due to the inherant speed of light.
Sleep well.
I love that story... as a kid, I wish my dad had told me that story instead of the one about Little Red Riding Hood!
Space and time... doesn't it screw with your mind...
Re: F**ked up Facts
Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2021 4:00 pm
by Biffer
BTW, we'd look like ants to a Kardashev III civilisation. The classification is something like
KI - uses all the energy of their home planet in their civilisation
KII - uses all the energy of their home solar system
KIII - uses all the energy of their home galaxy
A KIII civilisation is unimaginable to us.
Re: F**ked up Facts
Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2021 4:07 pm
by Grandpa
Biffer wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 4:00 pm
BTW, we'd look like ants to a Kardashev III civilisation. The classification is something like
KI - uses all the energy of their home planet in their civilisation
KII - uses all the energy of their home solar system
KIII - uses all the energy of their home galaxy
A KIII civilisation is unimaginable to us.
Is this universe old enough to have a KIII civilisation? Then again I guess you can go from KII to KIII pretty quickly...
Re: F**ked up Facts
Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2021 4:11 pm
by Biffer
Well we've gone from not existing as a species to being on the way to KI in less than 100,000 years.
Re: F**ked up Facts
Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2021 4:23 pm
by Grandpa
Biffer wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 4:11 pm
Well we've gone from not existing as a species to being on the way to KI in less than 100,000 years.
True... I just remember Brian Cox talking about it.. that there may not be another civilisation ahead of us, because we have appeared just about as early as it's possible to appear... given the length of time that conditions have been right etc... it's a pretty narrow window... but I'm no expert, he sounded convincing to a layman,..
Re: F**ked up Facts
Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2021 5:27 pm
by Biffer
Grandpa wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 4:23 pm
Biffer wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 4:11 pm
Well we've gone from not existing as a species to being on the way to KI in less than 100,000 years.
True... I just remember Brian Cox talking about it.. that there may not be another civilisation ahead of us, because we have appeared just about as early as it's possible to appear... given the length of time that conditions have been right etc... it's a pretty narrow window... but I'm no expert, he sounded convincing to a layman,..
Yeah, I'm unconvinced by his logic tbh, on multiple levels.
Re: F**ked up Facts
Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2021 7:56 pm
by Niegs
Grandpa wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 4:23 pm
Biffer wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 4:11 pm
Well we've gone from not existing as a species to being on the way to KI in less than 100,000 years.
True... I just remember Brian Cox talking about it.. that there may not be another civilisation ahead of us, because we have appeared just about as early as it's possible to appear... given the length of time that conditions have been right etc... it's a pretty narrow window... but I'm no expert, he sounded convincing to a layman,..
We've got a lot of evolving to do before we become Qs or those big headed people who use telepathy.
Re: F**ked up Facts
Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2021 8:00 pm
by Enzedder
If you get a loan from a bank you will still be paying it back in 20 years.
If you rob a bank, you're out in less than 10.
Follow me for more financial advice.
Re: F**ked up Facts
Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2021 8:19 pm
by Lobby
Enzedder wrote: ↑Wed Jun 30, 2021 8:00 pm
If you get a loan from a bank you will still be paying it back in 20 years.
If you rob a bank, you're out in less than 10.
Follow me for more financial advice.
If you rob a bank and are caught, they don’t usually let you keep the money you stole.
Re: F**ked up Facts
Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2021 9:23 pm
by Grandpa
Lobby wrote: ↑Wed Jun 30, 2021 8:19 pm
Enzedder wrote: ↑Wed Jun 30, 2021 8:00 pm
If you get a loan from a bank you will still be paying it back in 20 years.
If you rob a bank, you're out in less than 10.
Follow me for more financial advice.
If you rob a bank and are caught, they don’t usually let you keep the money you stole.
You don't keep the loan either... usually have to pay back more than you took...
Re: F**ked up Facts
Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2021 6:43 am
by Lobby
Grandpa wrote: ↑Wed Jun 30, 2021 9:23 pm
Lobby wrote: ↑Wed Jun 30, 2021 8:19 pm
Enzedder wrote: ↑Wed Jun 30, 2021 8:00 pm
If you get a loan from a bank you will still be paying it back in 20 years.
If you rob a bank, you're out in less than 10.
Follow me for more financial advice.
If you rob a bank and are caught, they don’t usually let you keep the money you stole.
You don't keep the loan either... usually have to pay back more than you took...
Indeed, but you can keep what you bought with the loan.
Re: F**ked up Facts
Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2021 1:10 am
by Enzedder
Lobby wrote: ↑Wed Jun 30, 2021 8:19 pm
Enzedder wrote: ↑Wed Jun 30, 2021 8:00 pm
If you get a loan from a bank you will still be paying it back in 20 years.
If you rob a bank, you're out in less than 10.
Follow me for more financial advice.
If you rob a bank and are caught, they don’t usually let you keep the money you stole.
Tell them you gave it to the poor.
Sheesh, do I have to think of everything.
Re: F**ked up Facts
Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2021 12:11 am
by Niegs
Reading a book of rugby history, I just learned Loftus Versfeld was a person! I assumed it meant ‘high green field’.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Lo ... a_1891.jpg
Re: F**ked up Facts
Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2021 8:35 am
by average joe
A "vers" is a young cow so the direct translation would be Lofthouse Cowfield but never ever say that to someone in Pretoria.
Re: F**ked up Facts
Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2021 8:36 am
by average joe
A "vers" is a young cow so the direct translation would be Lofthouse Cowfield but never ever say that to someone in Pretoria.
Re: F**ked up Facts
Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2021 4:35 pm
by Niegs
average joe wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 8:36 am
A "vers" is a young cow so the direct translation would be Lofthouse Cowfield but never ever say that to someone in Pretoria.
I was thinking ‘ver’ (vert) = green as in Vermont. I know that’d have Latin roots ....
If you know, what’s the significance of Esterhuizen / Oosterhuizen, assuming that’s east / west and houses? (I’m a bit of a nerd when it comes to surname origins.)
We used to have a broadcaster here with the long surname of Van Oldenbarnevelt (looks like ‘of the old barn field’? :) )
Re: F**ked up Facts
Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2021 6:11 am
by average joe
Niegs wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 4:35 pm
average joe wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 8:36 am
A "vers" is a young cow so the direct translation would be Lofthouse Cowfield but never ever say that to someone in Pretoria.
I was thinking ‘ver’ (vert) = green as in Vermont. I know that’d have Latin roots ....
If you know, what’s the significance of Esterhuizen / Oosterhuizen, assuming that’s east / west and houses? (I’m a bit of a nerd when it comes to surname origins.)
We used to have a broadcaster here with the long surname of Van Oldenbarnevelt (looks like ‘of the old barn field’? :) )
I was only joking with the above and attempted a very crude translation from Afrikaans although I might actually be on to something. I find the origins of surnames very interesting. Naturally Afrikaans surnames are mostly derived from the early Dutch and French settlers.
I'm sure you are aware that most surnames were basically nicknames that became official when they decided that we actually needed surnames. They would simply take what they did for a living or were they were from and make that their surnames, for instance Van Niekerk, Van den Berg, Cruywagen ens
You might be correct with Oosterhuizen (Oosthuizen) but Esterhuizen is derived from a place name in northern France. Cant recall the name right now though. Had some strange French spelling.
Re: F**ked up Facts
Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2021 11:31 am
by Niegs
average joe wrote: ↑Fri Jul 09, 2021 6:11 am
Niegs wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 4:35 pm
average joe wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 8:36 am
A "vers" is a young cow so the direct translation would be Lofthouse Cowfield but never ever say that to someone in Pretoria.
I was thinking ‘ver’ (vert) = green as in Vermont. I know that’d have Latin roots ....
If you know, what’s the significance of Esterhuizen / Oosterhuizen, assuming that’s east / west and houses? (I’m a bit of a nerd when it comes to surname origins.)
We used to have a broadcaster here with the long surname of Van Oldenbarnevelt (looks like ‘of the old barn field’? :) )
I was only joking with the above and attempted a very crude translation from Afrikaans although I might actually be on to something. I find the origins of surnames very interesting. Naturally Afrikaans surnames are mostly derived from the early Dutch and French settlers.
I'm sure you are aware that most surnames were basically nicknames that became official when they decided that we actually needed surnames. They would simply take what they did for a living or were they were from and make that their surnames, for instance Van Niekerk, Van den Berg, Cruywagen ens
You might be correct with Oosterhuizen (Oosthuizen) but Esterhuizen is derived from a place name in northern France. Cant recall the name right now though. Had some strange French spelling.
Yes, I listen to a podcast about the history of English (exciting, I know!). They did a few eps iirc on surnames and why they came into being in England (so many Johns and Margarets!). Seems that the first few generations, as you say, were nicknames specific to the person to differentiate (looks, where from, personal quality, profession), but I think it was something to do with inheritance and tax collection that saw surnames sticking in the late medieval period (in England at least). And lots of men worked as their fathers did anyway, so professional names probably stuck for that reason.
Re: F**ked up Facts
Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2021 11:53 am
by Saint
average joe wrote: ↑Fri Jul 09, 2021 6:11 am
Niegs wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 4:35 pm
average joe wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 8:36 am
A "vers" is a young cow so the direct translation would be Lofthouse Cowfield but never ever say that to someone in Pretoria.
I was thinking ‘ver’ (vert) = green as in Vermont. I know that’d have Latin roots ....
If you know, what’s the significance of Esterhuizen / Oosterhuizen, assuming that’s east / west and houses? (I’m a bit of a nerd when it comes to surname origins.)
We used to have a broadcaster here with the long surname of Van Oldenbarnevelt (looks like ‘of the old barn field’? :) )
I was only joking with the above and attempted a very crude translation from Afrikaans although I might actually be on to something. I find the origins of surnames very interesting. Naturally Afrikaans surnames are mostly derived from the early Dutch and French settlers.
I'm sure you are aware that most surnames were basically nicknames that became official when they decided that we actually needed surnames. They would simply take what they did for a living or were they were from and make that their surnames, for instance Van Niekerk, Van den Berg, Cruywagen ens
You might be correct with Oosterhuizen (Oosthuizen) but Esterhuizen is derived from a place name in northern France. Cant recall the name right now though. Had some strange French spelling.
Estreux
Re: F**ked up Facts
Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2021 12:47 pm
by average joe
Saint wrote: ↑Fri Jul 09, 2021 11:53 am
average joe wrote: ↑Fri Jul 09, 2021 6:11 am
Niegs wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 4:35 pm
I was thinking ‘ver’ (vert) = green as in Vermont. I know that’d have Latin roots ....
If you know, what’s the significance of Esterhuizen / Oosterhuizen, assuming that’s east / west and houses? (I’m a bit of a nerd when it comes to surname origins.)
We used to have a broadcaster here with the long surname of Van Oldenbarnevelt (looks like ‘of the old barn field’? :) )
I was only joking with the above and attempted a very crude translation from Afrikaans although I might actually be on to something. I find the origins of surnames very interesting. Naturally Afrikaans surnames are mostly derived from the early Dutch and French settlers.
I'm sure you are aware that most surnames were basically nicknames that became official when they decided that we actually needed surnames. They would simply take what they did for a living or were they were from and make that their surnames, for instance Van Niekerk, Van den Berg, Cruywagen ens
You might be correct with Oosterhuizen (Oosthuizen) but Esterhuizen is derived from a place name in northern France. Cant recall the name right now though. Had some strange French spelling.
Estreux
That's the one.
Re: F**ked up Facts
Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2021 1:22 pm
by Saint
average joe wrote: ↑Fri Jul 09, 2021 12:47 pm
Saint wrote: ↑Fri Jul 09, 2021 11:53 am
average joe wrote: ↑Fri Jul 09, 2021 6:11 am
I was only joking with the above and attempted a very crude translation from Afrikaans although I might actually be on to something. I find the origins of surnames very interesting. Naturally Afrikaans surnames are mostly derived from the early Dutch and French settlers.
I'm sure you are aware that most surnames were basically nicknames that became official when they decided that we actually needed surnames. They would simply take what they did for a living or were they were from and make that their surnames, for instance Van Niekerk, Van den Berg, Cruywagen ens
You might be correct with Oosterhuizen (Oosthuizen) but Esterhuizen is derived from a place name in northern France. Cant recall the name right now though. Had some strange French spelling.
Estreux
That's the one.
I think Oosthuizen is a village in Holland as well, so that presumably derives from there.
Re: F**ked up Facts
Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2021 5:31 am
by troglodiet
Kawazaki wrote: ↑Sat Apr 24, 2021 9:58 am
PornDog wrote: ↑Fri Apr 23, 2021 10:01 pm
Arkansas borders six states - you can travel from Arkansas into all six of them by travelling due south.
I just checked this fact and it's true.
The Clintons are from Arkansas.
Six
States
South
= 666
It's all beginning to make sense now.
Re: F**ked up Facts
Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2021 5:50 am
by sorCrer
Adolf "Adi" Dassler who founded Adidas was member of the Nazi party as was his older brother, Rudolf who founded Puma.
Re: F**ked up Facts
Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2021 5:52 am
by sorCrer
Saint wrote: ↑Fri Jul 09, 2021 1:22 pm
average joe wrote: ↑Fri Jul 09, 2021 12:47 pm
Saint wrote: ↑Fri Jul 09, 2021 11:53 am
Estreux
That's the one.
I think Oosthuizen is a village in Holland as well, so that presumably derives from there.
Pretty much means East House(s).
Re: F**ked up Facts
Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2021 1:31 pm
by RichieRich89
sorCrer wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 5:50 am
Adolf "Adi" Dassler who founded Adidas was member of the Nazi party as was his older brother, Rudolf who founded Puma.
What's wrong with that?
Re: F**ked up Facts
Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2021 5:59 pm
by JM2K6
Does someone want to tell him?
Re: F**ked up Facts
Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2021 6:18 pm
by Slick
JM2K6 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 5:59 pm
Does someone want to tell him?
Same as the Tory party isn’t it?
Re: F**ked up Facts
Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2021 8:08 pm
by JM2K6
Slick wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 6:18 pm
JM2K6 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 5:59 pm
Does someone want to tell him?
Same as the Tory party isn’t it?
Exactly
Re: F**ked up Facts
Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2021 8:08 pm
by Slick
JM2K6 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 8:08 pm
Slick wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 6:18 pm
JM2K6 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 5:59 pm
Does someone want to tell him?
Same as the Tory party isn’t it?
Exactly
Re: F**ked up Facts
Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 9:49 am
by Biffer
RichieRich89 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 1:31 pm
sorCrer wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 5:50 am
Adolf "Adi" Dassler who founded Adidas was member of the Nazi party as was his older brother, Rudolf who founded Puma.
What's wrong with that?
Adi Dassler also became romantically involved with a 15 year old when he was 32, marrying her a year later.
Re: F**ked up Facts
Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 11:08 am
by Calculon
IIRC, Rudi was conscripted into the Wehrmacht, deserted, was captured, and then sent to a prison camp. The famous animosity between the brothers wasn’t helped by Rudi being pissed off that he was sent away to combat while his younger brother got to stay behind to run the family business.
also think membership was more of a business decision rather than an ideological one
Re: F**ked up Facts
Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 12:49 pm
by RichieRich89
Biffer wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 9:49 am
RichieRich89 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 1:31 pm
sorCrer wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 5:50 am
Adolf "Adi" Dassler who founded Adidas was member of the Nazi party as was his older brother, Rudolf who founded Puma.
What's wrong with that?
Adi Dassler also became romantically involved with a 15 year old when he was 32, marrying her a year later.
Oh, that kind of thing wasn't unusual in the past.
In Romeo and Juliet, Juliet is 13 and Romeo is thought to be 16-18.
