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Re: European cup w/c 15th April thread
Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2022 7:17 pm
by Torquemada 1420
Fre side in "can't catch a high ball" surprise.
Re: European cup w/c 15th April thread
Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2022 7:17 pm
by sockwithaticket
Mr Tim Buktoo wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 7:15 pm
Was in its arse.
Nothing malicious about it. Accidental and should have been a penalty only.
Ah, so you have missed a lot of modern day reffing, because none of what you've put there actually matters.
Re: European cup w/c 15th April thread
Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2022 7:18 pm
by sockwithaticket
That's not going on Dupont's highlight reel. Such an unnecessary offload.
Re: European cup w/c 15th April thread
Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2022 7:19 pm
by Torquemada 1420
Bye bye Toulouse. If you can't keep 15 men on the pitch for more than 10 minutes a game, life gets tough.
Re: European cup w/c 15th April thread
Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2022 7:20 pm
by Torquemada 1420
sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 7:18 pm
That's not going on Dupont's highlight reel. Such an unnecessary offload.
He did that last week when Cros (I think) was down and so they were playing with 13.
Re: European cup w/c 15th April thread
Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2022 7:20 pm
by Mr Tim Buktoo
Lobby wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 7:15 pm
Mr Tim Buktoo wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 7:13 pm
And another nothing yellow card. The game has gone soft. Ridiculous.
You might want to have a look at the Steve Thompson thread before commenting further.
And both of those offences have been text book yellow cards for ages.
Nope. There has to be common sense. If the toulose lad had landed the ulster player on his head/neck then of course but it was a tame lift of the legs and the ulster player landed on his back. No issue. Farcical. Its like tackling someone by the hips and landing them on their back. No penalty then is there?
It should only be a card if the player is landed on this head/neck/shoulders with force.
I dont think ive seen such a tame example of both those offences in a long time.
Re: European cup w/c 15th April thread
Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2022 7:21 pm
by sockwithaticket
Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 7:20 pm
sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 7:18 pm
That's not going on Dupont's highlight reel. Such an unnecessary offload.
He did that last week when Cros (I think) was down and so they were playing with 13.
Do you reckon he's trying to do too much due to so often needing to be the creative spark for the team?
Re: European cup w/c 15th April thread
Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2022 7:22 pm
by Torquemada 1420
Mr Tim Buktoo wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 7:20 pm
Lobby wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 7:15 pm
Mr Tim Buktoo wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 7:13 pm
And another nothing yellow card. The game has gone soft. Ridiculous.
You might want to have a look at the Steve Thompson thread before commenting further.
And both of those offences have been text book yellow cards for ages.
Nope. There has to be common sense. If the toulose lad had landed the ulster player on his head/neck then of course but it was a tame lift of the legs and the ulster player landed on his back. No issue. Farcical. Its like tackling someone by the hips and landing them on their back. No penalty then is there?
It should only be a card if the player is landed on this head/neck/shoulders with force.
I dont think ive seen such a tame example of both those offences in a long time.
The issue here is he's not meant to be lifting the player at all. If Delibes is too thick to understand that, he should find another career.
Re: European cup w/c 15th April thread
Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2022 7:23 pm
by sockwithaticket
Mr Tim Buktoo wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 7:20 pm
Lobby wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 7:15 pm
Mr Tim Buktoo wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 7:13 pm
And another nothing yellow card. The game has gone soft. Ridiculous.
You might want to have a look at the Steve Thompson thread before commenting further.
And both of those offences have been text book yellow cards for ages.
Nope. There has to be common sense. If the toulose lad had landed the ulster player on his head/neck then of course but it was a tame lift of the legs and the ulster player landed on his back. No issue. Farcical. Its like tackling someone by the hips and landing them on their back. No penalty then is there?
It should only be a card if the player is landed on this head/neck/shoulders with force.
I dont think ive seen such a tame example of both those offences in a long time.
Landing on head or neck from being taken in the air has been a red for ages. Putting a playing through the horizontal has been an automatic yellow for ages and a red where it causes someone to land on their head or neck.
Re: European cup w/c 15th April thread
Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2022 7:24 pm
by Torquemada 1420
sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 7:21 pm
Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 7:20 pm
sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 7:18 pm
That's not going on Dupont's highlight reel. Such an unnecessary offload.
He did that last week when Cros (I think) was down and so they were playing with 13.
Do you reckon he's trying to do too much due to so often needing to be the creative spark for the team?
Absolutely. Go back to the game v a 3rd string Cardiff where he effectively had to win the game single handed. It's been like that much of this season with Toulouse. Dupont plays well, they have a chance. Dupont plays below par, they lose. Dupont doesn't play, they are rubbish.
Re: European cup w/c 15th April thread
Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2022 7:25 pm
by Torquemada 1420
I think without Cros, Baille and Marchand, this was already a reach too far for Toulouse even if they had some kind of form.
{EDIT} To add to Holmes, Chocobares, Tolofua, Guitoune, Placines & Tekori
Re: European cup w/c 15th April thread
Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2022 7:29 pm
by fishfoodie
Last pass looked a bit forward
Re: European cup w/c 15th April thread
Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2022 7:30 pm
by sockwithaticket
Now that was nicely worked after the intial mess around the ruck. A bit more of it and we've got a game on.
Re: European cup w/c 15th April thread
Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2022 7:30 pm
by Torquemada 1420
FM, did Ntamack just attack the line
And 1st support player is......
Re: European cup w/c 15th April thread
Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2022 7:34 pm
by Torquemada 1420
Suicide is painless
Re: European cup w/c 15th April thread
Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2022 7:38 pm
by Kawazaki
Can't believe how far Dupont kicks the ball. 50m easily off one step.
Re: European cup w/c 15th April thread
Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2022 7:39 pm
by Torquemada 1420
F**k off Carney, that's a clear knock on by Ulster.
Re: European cup w/c 15th April thread
Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2022 7:41 pm
by sockwithaticket
Carley is usually a massive stickler for the laws, but from that seeming Ulster knock on onwards it's like he came over all French and it was anything goes at the breakdown.
Re: European cup w/c 15th April thread
Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2022 7:43 pm
by Torquemada 1420
Oh. He sees THAT knock on
Re: European cup w/c 15th April thread
Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2022 7:44 pm
by geordie_6
JM2K6 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 6:19 pm
I don't see the point in splitting hairs over whether he hit the shoulder a millisecond before hitting him in the head. A very big bloke decided to smash someone without bothering to bend and drop the tackle height, and hit him hard in the head. Should always be a red.
What pisses me off with the ex pros on comms is the "in the current climate" line that they trot out every time, or "rugby incident".
Go have a chat with your mate Steve Thompson, who seemingly struggles to remember his eldest daughters name at times, and get an understanding why we need to change...
Re: European cup w/c 15th April thread
Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2022 7:45 pm
by Tichtheid
oooh nice
Re: European cup w/c 15th April thread
Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2022 7:46 pm
by Tichtheid
Stevie Ferris is quite pleased, I think
Re: European cup w/c 15th April thread
Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2022 7:47 pm
by Torquemada 1420
That is abject by Ramos. It was a poor kick and he still screws it up.
Re: European cup w/c 15th April thread
Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2022 7:47 pm
by bogbunny
Yesssssssd
Re: European cup w/c 15th April thread
Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2022 8:08 pm
by sockwithaticket
Toulouse every right to be annoyed with that. Intentional or not, Mauvaka ended up being tripped by an ulster player lying on the ground.
Re: European cup w/c 15th April thread
Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2022 8:10 pm
by Kawazaki
Ulster player touched that knocked on ball before the offside player played it.
Re: European cup w/c 15th April thread
Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2022 8:15 pm
by fishfoodie
Ulster really need a decent OH, to match the level of talent they have across the rest of the backs
Re: European cup w/c 15th April thread
Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2022 8:19 pm
by Torquemada 1420
sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 8:08 pm
Toulouse every right to be annoyed with that. Intentional or not, Mauvaka ended up being tripped by an ulster player lying on the ground.
It's Carley. No Fre side is getting anything.
Re: European cup w/c 15th April thread
Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2022 8:21 pm
by Torquemada 1420
Where TF was any of the backrow at that breakdown?
Re: European cup w/c 15th April thread
Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2022 8:22 pm
by Kawazaki
That penalty against Toulouse was bullshit, tackler was actually still holding him on the ground when he got penalised!
Re: European cup w/c 15th April thread
Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2022 8:24 pm
by Torquemada 1420
That HAS to be red.
Watch Carley walk Ulster out of this one.
Re: European cup w/c 15th April thread
Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2022 8:26 pm
by sockwithaticket
That flies in the face of many rulings on incidents like that from the past. Lowry gets off the ground after Ramos and cards have been issued for that.
Re: European cup w/c 15th April thread
Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2022 8:27 pm
by ASMO
How the fuck was that not a card?
Re: European cup w/c 15th April thread
Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2022 8:27 pm
by Torquemada 1420
Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 8:24 pm
That HAS to be red.
Watch Carley walk Ulster out of this one.
Seriously. F**k off you bent c**t.
Re: European cup w/c 15th April thread
Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2022 8:32 pm
by sockwithaticket
That's double shoulders into the face.
Re: European cup w/c 15th April thread
Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2022 8:33 pm
by Torquemada 1420
Let's see Carley get BOTH Ulster players off this one
Re: European cup w/c 15th April thread
Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2022 8:33 pm
by ASMO
He bottled that, they both should have gone
Re: European cup w/c 15th April thread
Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2022 8:34 pm
by Tichtheid
ASMO wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 8:33 pm
He bottled that, they both should have gone
That would be very unusual but it would have been correct in that instance
Re: European cup w/c 15th April thread
Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2022 8:34 pm
by Torquemada 1420
ASMO wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 8:33 pm
He bottled that, they both should have gone
Should be playing with 12 but this bent ref was never going to let that happen.
Re: European cup w/c 15th April thread
Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2022 8:35 pm
by sockwithaticket
ASMO wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 8:33 pm
He bottled that, they both should have gone
Absolutely. He's doing some job of justifying Ulster 2. He was going in with a shoulder and not attempting a wrap anyway, which should be a yellow, that hit the head after almost no height change.